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February 8, 2023 at 12:58 pm #99192
In reply to: What are you “here” with today?
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Brian Masinick
sudo ps_mem.py Private + Shared = RAM used Program 92.0 KiB + 14.5 KiB = 106.5 KiB runit 108.0 KiB + 19.5 KiB = 127.5 KiB runsvdir 192.0 KiB + 33.5 KiB = 225.5 KiB gpm 288.0 KiB + 34.5 KiB = 322.5 KiB acpid 396.0 KiB + 148.5 KiB = 544.5 KiB dbus-launch 360.0 KiB + 255.5 KiB = 615.5 KiB icewm-session 380.0 KiB + 295.5 KiB = 675.5 KiB udevil 500.0 KiB + 250.5 KiB = 750.5 KiB rpcbind 576.0 KiB + 346.0 KiB = 922.0 KiB getty (4) 468.0 KiB + 465.0 KiB = 933.0 KiB avahi-daemon (2) 644.0 KiB + 414.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB devmon 836.0 KiB + 492.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB desktop-session 952.0 KiB + 457.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB dbus-daemon (2) 332.0 KiB + 1.1 MiB = 1.4 MiB saned (2) 1.7 MiB + 93.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB elogind 1.6 MiB + 284.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB udevd 1.5 MiB + 461.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB ntpd 1.5 MiB + 517.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB sudo 1.6 MiB + 519.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB runsv (25) 1.7 MiB + 534.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB bash 2.2 MiB + 84.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB rsyslogd 1.9 MiB + 547.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB bluetoothd 3.2 MiB + 32.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged 2.6 MiB + 756.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB dhclient 3.5 MiB + 360.5 KiB = 3.8 MiB connmand 3.6 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 4.9 MiB conky 4.4 MiB + 827.5 KiB = 5.2 MiB wpa_supplicant 4.6 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 6.0 MiB slimski 2.8 MiB + 4.5 MiB = 7.2 MiB volumeicon 6.2 MiB + 2.9 MiB = 9.1 MiB icewm 11.2 MiB + 6.0 MiB = 17.1 MiB roxterm 82.1 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 83.5 MiB Xorg --------------------------------- 170.3 MiB ================================= pinxi -bw System: Host: brian-antix-hp-14fq1025nr Kernel: 6.1.10-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) CPU: Info: 6-core AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1937 min/max: 1400/4056 Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne driver: amdgpu v: kernel Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.1.10-x64v3-xanmod1 LLVM 11.0.1) Network: Device-1: Realtek driver: rtw89_8852ae Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 29.99 GiB (12.6%) Weather: Report: temperature: 7.71 C (46 F) conditions: few clouds Locale: Greenville, SC, USA current time: Wed 08 Feb 2023 07:58:31 AM EST (America/New_York) Source: OpenWeatherMap.org Info: Processes: 266 Uptime: 51m Memory: 7.1 GiB used: 1.01 GiB (14.2%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.24-9--
Brian MasinickFebruary 7, 2023 at 8:05 pm #99126In reply to: What are you “here” with today?
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Brian Masinick
inxi -Fzx System: Kernel: 4.19.0-256-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid Machine: Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5558 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: 086DKN v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: A18 date: 12/30/2019 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 30.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 30.1/41.4 Wh (72.6%) volts: 16.5 min: 14.8 model: Samsung SDI DELL 07G07587587 status: full CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Core i7-5500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Broadwell rev: 4 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1797 high: 1916 min/max: 500/3000 cores: 1: 1841 2: 1908 3: 1524 4: 1916 bogomips: 19156 Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-8 bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] vendor: Dell driver: nvidiafb v: kernel arch: Kepler bus-ID: 08:00.0 Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-5:4 Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.3 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel Broadwell-U Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:03.0 Device-2: Intel Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Device-3: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 08:00.1 Sound API: ALSA v: k4.19.0-256-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 06:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Dell driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 2-6:5 Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: disabled rfk-block: hardware: no software: no address: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 5.27 GiB (1.2%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37480G size: 447.13 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 78.19 GiB used: 5.27 GiB (6.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 ID-2: /boot/efi size: 98.4 MiB used: 8.7 MiB (8.9%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: SODIMM C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2200 Info: Processes: 157 Uptime: 36m Memory: 7.7 GiB used: 1.7 GiB (22.1%) Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1627 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.24--
Brian MasinickFebruary 7, 2023 at 8:04 pm #99125In reply to: What are you “here” with today?
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Brian Masinick
antiX 23 Alpha 1 installed on my Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop –
inxi -b System: Host: antix23 Kernel: 4.19.0-256-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023 Machine: Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 5558 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: 086DKN v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell v: A18 date: 12/30/2019 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 30.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 30.1/41.4 Wh (72.6%) CPU: Info: dual core Intel Core i7-5500U [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1850 min/max: 500/3000 Graphics: Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel Device-2: NVIDIA GK208BM [GeForce 920M] driver: nvidiafb v: kernel Device-3: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.3 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) Network: Device-1: Intel Wireless 3160 driver: iwlwifi Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet driver: r8169 Device-3: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb Drives: Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 5.27 GiB (1.2%) Info: Processes: 157 Uptime: 34m Memory: 7.7 GiB used: 1.69 GiB (22.0%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.24--
Brian MasinickFebruary 7, 2023 at 7:59 pm #99124In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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Brian Masinick
caprea wrote:
@olsztyn, on antiX full there is already everything installed you need for bluetooth in general.
For pipewire install
pipewire
wireplumber
gstreamer1.0-pipewire
libspa-0.2-bluetooth
pipewire-audio-client-libraries
pavucontrol
pipewire-pulseI’m going to run the antiX 23 image again and see if Bluetooth actually works for me “this time”.
Thanks for noting this.
Unfortunately on my Dell Inspiron 5558 laptop, when I ran live, I was able to use either kernel, but when I installed, I wasn’t able to run the 5.10.142 kernel; same issue as I had on this system with antiX 21/22 – 5.10.142 stops at /dev – when attempting to load the Intelfb; might be a workaround, but I’m not familiar with it.
The 4.19 kernel is the only boot kernel that works and it doesn’t find Bluetooth.
Running live, neither kernels found Bluetooth on this hardware.
I’m going to install a more recent kernel and see if I have any better success.
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Brian MasinickFebruary 7, 2023 at 7:36 pm #99122In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
Memberstevesr0
Hi anticapitalista,
The Pipewire updates in Sid are a fact of life, so I just keep the involved packages blocked and unblock them only to install a new nosystemd version (pipewire, libpipewire, libspa, gstreamer-pipewire, wireplumber).
As caprea said, Pipewire works fine on the full alpha without either systemd OR the script I need in my minimalistic Sid install.
Bluetooth requires the service to be activated (Services menu in the System menu in Control-centre), needs specific packages (libspa-bluetooth and (?) Pipewire-audio) and needs the bluetooth manager to detect, trust and pair with the headset. (In my case, my old headphones connect promptly to an iPad, but are not detected by antiX’s bluetooth manager search.) Haven’t used Bluetooth on Linux for a long while, was hard to get working when last tried on antiX. Don’t remember the details, sorry.
From my limited needs, Pipewire runs fine on alpha. N.B. I haven’t installed the audio-client-libraries package on either system since it is listed as transitional and not needed IIRC. I also have not used Pipewire-Jack or the VLC Pipewire plug-in since VLC works fine without it.
Before running Bluetooth, check rfkill. On my live alpha session, Bluetooth was soft blocked by default.
That summarizes my experience.
stevesr0
February 7, 2023 at 6:33 pm #99109In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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Brian Masinick
caprea wrote:
@olsztyn, on antiX full there is already everything installed you need for bluetooth in general.
For pipewire install
pipewire
wireplumber
gstreamer1.0-pipewire
libspa-0.2-bluetooth
pipewire-audio-client-libraries
pavucontrol
pipewire-pulseI’m going to run the antiX 23 image again and see if Bluetooth actually works for me “this time”.
Thanks for noting this.
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Brian MasinickFebruary 7, 2023 at 6:29 pm #99108In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
Memberolsztyn
@olsztyn, on antiX full there is already everything installed you need for bluetooth in general.
For pipewire install
pipewire
wireplumber
gstreamer1.0-pipewire
libspa-0.2-bluetooth
pipewire-audio-client-libraries
pavucontrol
pipewire-pulseThanks again @caprea for detals (as well as thanks to dolphin_oracle, stevesr0 and anticapitalista for additional thoughts).
Starting with new baseline production system (antiX SID Full/Bookworm SID), which looks like equivalent to antiX 23 alpha, except my baseline system does not include libelogind0.
Problem seems to be that installing pipewire components appears to entail installation of libelogind0, and this is what I am trying to avoid. Installing pipewire components first and then removing libelogind0 does not seem to work too well. My system is completely *elogind*-free, consistent, and I want to keep this way.
Is there a solution to install minimum pipewire components and not let libelogind0 slip in?Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersFebruary 6, 2023 at 11:18 pm #99055In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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Brian Masinick
Hi all (too many to name),
After going to the control-centre and enabling bluetooth using the service manager in the systems tab, the bluetooth manager program launched and I did a search for my bluetooth headset. The terminal running the startup script detected an old bluetooth device but the bluetooth manager search didn’t find it.
I don’t see where/how to trust and pair with blueman. Is that run by a terminal command? (I haven’t played with bluetooth in a long while and my headset is old.)
stevesr0
P.S. first experience with the service manager tool – nice!
P.P.S. back after dinner.
Like I said above, with a great deal of effort, I’ve occasionally had success with Bluetooth, but the overall experience was so frustrating that it’s easier for me to either plug in a device or if I have to use Bluetooth, use my phone or my Chromebook, which work.
But frankly, even there, both of them have that serial plug too and I’ve found the physical connection to be more consistently reliable than Bluetooth even when it is working.
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Brian MasinickFebruary 6, 2023 at 11:14 pm #99052In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
Memberstevesr0
Hi all (too many to name),
After going to the control-centre and enabling bluetooth using the service manager in the systems tab, the bluetooth manager program launched and I did a search for my bluetooth headset. The terminal running the startup script detected an old bluetooth device but the bluetooth manager search didn’t find it.
I don’t see where/how to trust and pair with blueman. Is that run by a terminal command? (I haven’t played with bluetooth in a long while and my headset is old.)
stevesr0
P.S. first experience with the service manager tool – nice!
P.P.S. back after dinner.
- This reply was modified 3 months ago by stevesr0.
February 6, 2023 at 10:52 pm #99051In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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Brian Masinick
I have the bluez package installed. I’m running antiX 21/22 right now, and while on one hand, the Bluetooth service IS running, the unfortunate reality for me is that the Bluetooth devices I have seldom work with antiX or any Debian-based system on a consistent basis. Fortunately a couple of the devices I actually use also have either USB, a skinny round audio serial plug, or both, and these DO work to provide audio – on antiX, provided the browser is also running apulse. If it isn’t, I simply restart a browser command or script with apulse, which I happen to have on my personal IceWM toolbar for the browsers I most commonly use.
I tried one of them without apulse and it did not produce sound; I ran the image from my toolbar with apulse and my plugged in device WAS able to receive sound, so that’s my workaround. My alternative workaround for actually using Bluetooth is to run a non-Debian system; they often have better results. However, both a pair of earbuds and a headset DO have a serial plug available, so I get my sound. I also have some systems that don’t have very good speakers or no speakers, but my ear based alternatives are pretty decent, so I’m OK here.
Another option is to build a bluez environment from source code. Be careful here, too, because the very newest bluez source code is too new to work with the stable antiX release, though it MAY work with our final antiX 23 release. It’s something to consider for anyone wanting the certainty of Bluetooth capability.
I mentioned that “the Bluetooth service IS running”. By that, I mean that runsv Bluetooth is running – at the moment it happens to be process 1906; the Connman daemon happens to be process 1905, so our distribution does appear to start the service correctly. The larger problem is that Debian based systems have some of the worst Bluetooth configurations, so unless we as a team or we as individuals build the Bluetooth infrastructure from standard Bluetooth sources instead of utilizing upstream components, we may not end up with an adequately consistent service. I base those comments both on my personal experiences over the past three years and my repeated investigations. I have managed to get things working a few times, only to have them inexplicably break all over again the next time I try them, so since in my case I have other options, plus other things to do, I’ve pretty much given up on laptop Bluetooth. If I really want it or need it I resort to my phone or my Chromebook, both of which handle the Bluetooth service fine.
So for those who want to conquer Bluetooth, those are my experiences; I hope yours have been more successful than mine!
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Brian MasinickFebruary 6, 2023 at 10:15 pm #99047In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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anticapitalista
You probably need to use runit-service-manager to start bluetooth as well.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
February 6, 2023 at 9:59 pm #99044In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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caprea
@olsztyn, on antiX full there is already everything installed you need for bluetooth in general.
For pipewire installpipewire wireplumber gstreamer1.0-pipewire libspa-0.2-bluetooth pavucontrol pipewire-pulseIn startup file I have
#start pipewire pipewire & #start wireplumber sleep 3 && wireplumber & #start pipewire-pulse sleep 4 && pipewire-pulse & ## Puts a volume icon on the taskbar sleep 5 && volumeicon &You can use blueman for connection, you can use pavucontrol for settings.In summary, pipewire works well here, but is not yet very well tested in general.So time will tell us.
Edit: Stevesr0, did you do the trust and pair with blueman? If this is done ones it should connect automatically.
Edit2:Stevesr0,you are right, the pipewire-audio-client-libraries are not needed. Deleted them from the above text.- This reply was modified 3 months ago by caprea.
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February 6, 2023 at 9:41 pm #99043In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
Memberstevesr0
Hi dolphin_oracle and caprea,
I had libspa-0.2-bluetooth installed, along with the other bluetooth packages and the pipewire-audio package which I read was needed, but pavucontrol doesn’t add my bluetooth headphones automagically to the output devices.
I had read that pairing with bluetooth devices by the new version of Pipewire was prompt and automagic.
What did you do to get bluetooth paired with Pipewire?
stevesr0
February 6, 2023 at 8:41 pm #99042In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
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dolphin_oracle
libspa-0.2-bluetooth for pipewire bluetooth.
February 6, 2023 at 7:54 pm #99038In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
Memberstevesr0
To caprea,
I am a very a dull permanent noobie indeed. I “ASS”umed that what I needed to make Pipewire work on my cobbled together minimistic Sid install would be required by this full alpha engineered by anticapitalista!
Once I read your message,
I went back to the directions by Xecure (following the Debian wiki) and reproduced that in my /home/demo/.desktop-sessions/startup file. (Including a “sleep 2” time after pipewire before wireplumber. Then pipewire-pulse. I threw in an lxterminal without a following & to avoid the session closing if pipewire closed. (This is all written up in the threads “Pipewire for antix 21” and “Pipewire without systemdd”.) Then I ran the .desktop-session/startup from the terminal and voila, pipewire and pavucontrol worked.
After an apt update and full-upgrade, all the needed pipewire, libpipewire, libspa, wireplumber, and gstreamer packages were available for installation.
Specifically, this is running after I removed libelogind0.
So, Thank you much caprea.
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To olsztyn,
I haven’t used pipewire bluetooth. I just looked and saw that pipewire-audio is the package that supports bluetooth. Supposed to work automagically via wireplumber. I just installed it but it didn’t automatically work. sorry. Here is a link to a page on Bluetooth configuration for Pipewire: https://pipewire.pages.freedesktop.org/wireplumber/configuration/bluetooth.html It is beyond my “paygrade” <g>.
stevesr0
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