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    marcelocripe

      Bonjour Jibi.

      Bienvenue sur antiX Linux et sur le forum.

      Je ne sais pas écrire en français et j’envoie mes textes traduits par le traducteur internet. J’espère que vous pouvez tout comprendre, si votre langue maternelle n’est pas le français, veuillez traduire mon texte original en portugais brésilien directement dans votre langue à l’aide de traducteurs Internet.

      Quel que soit votre niveau de connaissances sur GNU/Linux, je vous recommande de lire ces excellents tutoriels créés par @PPC :

      What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
      Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
      How-to install applications – 2020 version.
      How to: correctly use antiX forum.

      Lorsque j’ai commencé à utiliser antiX, j’ai lu les tutoriels créés par PPC, ces lectures m’ont fait gagner beaucoup de temps et je pense que cela fait gagner du temps à tout nouvel utilisateur d’antiX. Votre temps ne sera pas perdu avec ces lectures, tout vous semblera beaucoup plus facile que vous ne pourriez l’imaginer. Vous ne perdrez pas votre temps à chercher sur internet ou même à créer de nouveaux sujets, au contraire, vous gagnerez beaucoup de temps avec ces lectures.

      Je vous recommande d’essayer les ordinateurs de bureau qui ont “zzz” dans leur nom. J’utilise habituellement zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (chacun de ces bureaux a ses propres caractéristiques et consomme plus ou moins de ressources), zzzFM sera le gestionnaire de fichiers par défaut pour votre bureau, il est très similaire à l’autre fichier gestionnaires d’autres distributions GNU/Linux et de Windows XP. Pour accéder aux autres espaces de travail antiX, cliquez sur Menu, Espace de travail, Basculer entre les espaces de travail et cliquez sur le nom de l’espace de travail, instantanément l’espace de travail sera chargé.

      Chaque fois que vous avez besoin de demander de l’aide ou du support technique, postez la sortie de la commande du terminal $ inxi -Fxz, copiez-la et collez-la ici dans le message du sujet que vous allez créer dans ce forum.

      Lorsque vous démarrez un sujet ou participez avec un message, n’oubliez pas de cocher l’option “M’avertir des réponses de suivi par e-mail”, en cochant cette option, vous recevrez un message dans votre boîte e-mail chaque fois qu’il y aura des réponses du sujet en question .

      Après cette petite introduction, passons à votre cas :

      antiX fonctionne étonnamment sur les ordinateurs avec 1 Go de RAM par rapport aux autres systèmes d’exploitation.

      Il se peut que votre problème soit lié au modèle et à la marque de votre carte vidéo. Si cela ne vous dérange pas, essayez d’utiliser le remaster ISO non officiel d’antiX 21 (Remastériseur complet antiX 21 32 bits et 64 bits avec noyau 4.4.0-296), je l’ai posté dans la zone de langue portugaise pour le rendre plus facile à trouver dans ce forum. N’oubliez pas de vérifier le md5 et le sha512 après avoir téléchargé l’image ISO.

      Avant d’essayer l’ISO ci-dessus, vous pouvez essayer de lancer antiX en sélectionnant l’option “Safe Video Mode” et s’il ne lance toujours pas le bureau, essayez l’option “Failsafe Boot”.

      marcelocripe
      (Texte original en portugais brésilien)

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      Olá jibi.

      Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

      Eu não sei escrever em idioma Francês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Francês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

      Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

      What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
      Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
      How-to install applications – 2020 version.
      How to: correctly use antiX forum.

      Quando eu comecei a utilizar o antiX, eu li os tutoriais que o PPC criou, estas leituras me pouparam muito do meu tempo e acho que poupa o tempo de qualquer novo usuário do antiX. O seu tempo não será perdido com estas leituras, tudo parecerá ser muito mais fácil do que você poderia imaginar. Você não perderá o seu tempo com pesquisas na internet ou até mesmo em criar novos tópicos, ao contrário, você ganhará muito tempo com estas leituras.

      Eu recomendo você experimentar as áreas de trabalho que possuem “zzz” em seu nome. Eu costumo utilizar o zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (cada uma destas áreas de trabalho possuem características próprias e consomem mais ou menos recursos), o zzzFM será o gerenciador de arquivos padrão da sua área de trabalho, ele é muito semelhante aos outros gerenciadores de arquivos das outras distribuições GNU/Linux e do Windows XP. Para acessar as outras áreas de trabalho do antiX, clique no Menu, Área de Trabalho, Alternar Entre as Áreas de Trabalho e clique sobre o nome da área de trabalho, instantaneamente a área de trabalho será carregada.

      Sempre que você precisar solicitar ajuda ou suporte técnico, poste o resultado do comando do terminal $ inxi -Fxz, copie e cole aqui na mensagem do tópico que você for criar neste fórum.

      Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

      Após esta pequena introdução, vamos ao seu caso:

      O antiX funciona surpreendentemente em computadores com 1 GB de memória RAM quando comparado a outros sistemas operacionais.

      Pode ser que o seu problema esteja relacionado devido o modelo e marca da sua placa de vídeo. Se você não se importar, por favor, tente utilizar a remasterização não oficial da ISO do antiX 21 (Remasterização do antiX 21 Full de 32 e 64 bits com o Kernel 4.4.0-296), eu publiquei na área em idioma Português para ficar mais fácil de ser encontrada neste fórum. Não esqueça de verificar o md5 e o sha512 após baixar a imagem ISO.

      Antes de tentar a ISO acima, você pode tentar inciar o antiX selecionando a opção “Modo de Vídeo Seguro” e se mesmo assim não inciar a área de trabalho, tente a opção “Inicialização à Prova de Falhas”.

      marcelocripe
      (Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

      #84831
      Member
      jibi

        Bonjour,

        mon ordi est un vieux pc amilo avec 1024Mo de ram et Processeur Intel® Pentium® M 750
        Je viens de graver un cd avec antiX-19.4_386-base.iso
        je boot dessus, puis le curseur clignotant arrive et j’attends depuis 30mn : toujours rien ?

        J’ai fait l’essai avec deux autres ordi plus récents et plus puissants : cela fonctionne bien

        Quelles sont les spécifications minimales pour faire tourner antiX

        Que proposez vous pour cet ordi si antiX19.4 ne convient pas pour ma machine ?

        Merci

        #84633
        Member
        marcelocripe

          Marcelo, Could you please point me to any existing antiX programs that display their help screen in a web browser in a way that is usable and looks good in your language? I could use the default browser instead of Dillo if that would be better.

          The ISO boot menu antiX 21 help was made in xhtml and is available at Transifex contribs, the help of internet browsers that have translation are in my language of 4 letters or more, in the absence of the language of 4 letters or more, it displays the language of 2 letters and absence of the language 2 letter displays the English language.

          Missing translations: Initially, until a list of text strings is made, I don’t think they will translate, and maybe that’s the problem right now.

          It’s not a problem with the translation itself. The problem is me, is that I don’t have enough knowledge to adapt and make the necessary changes for your script to be exported to the format of the .pot file containing all the translatable phrases.

          What program of PPC’s stores the text strings in variables? If I had an example I might be able to do it that way, too.

          Download FT10 source code or download the package ft10-transformation_1.4.10_all.deb. For example, in “ft10_tint2_manager.sh”, look at the excerpt: #Variable names, for easier translation:, has 14 variables (lines 10 to 23) that receive the texts that will be translated. If a blank line is added before the line after #Variable names, for easier translation:, all translations will be lost, as .pot/.po indicates the line number of the sentence to be translated. Any line added to the script after the last variable in the #Variable names list, for easier translation: will not lose the translations from the .pot/.po/.mo file. Please don’t forget to include the error messages, the current “antixscreenshot.sh” has no translation for the error messages and when it displays the information the file will be overwritten. Today I will be able to participate in the HexChat channel and it will be easier for us to communicate.

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          Marcelo, Could you please point me to any existing antiX programs that display their help screen in a web browser in a way that is usable and looks good in your language? I could use the default browser instead of Dillo if that would be better.

          A ajuda do antiX 21 do menu de inicialização da ISO foi feita em xhtml e está disponível no Transifex contribs, a ajuda dos navegadores de internet que possuem tradução são em meu idioma de 4 letras ou mais, na ausência do idioma de 4 letras ou mais, exibe do idioma de 2 letras e ausência do idioma de 2 letras exibe o idioma Inglês.

          Missing translations: Initially, until a list of text strings is made, I don’t think they will translate, and maybe that’s the problem right now.

          Não é um problema na tradução em si. O problema sou eu, é que eu não possuo conhecimento suficiente para adaptar e fazer as alterações necessárias para o seu script para ser exportado para o formato do arquivo .pot contendo todas as frases traduzíveis.

          What program of PPC’s stores the text strings in variables? If I had an example I might be able to do it that way, too.

          Baixe o código fonte do FT10 ou baixe o pacote ft10-transformation_1.4.10_all.deb. Por exemplo, no “ft10_tint2_manager.sh”, olhe no trecho: #Variable names, for easier translation:, possui 14 variáveis (linha 10 a 23) que recebem os textos que serão traduzidos. Se uma linha em branco for acrescentada antes da linha após #Variable names, for easier translation:, todas as traduções serão perdidas, pois o .pot/.po indica o número da linha da frase a ser traduzida. Qualquer linha que for acrescentada no script após a última variável da lista #Variable names, for easier translation: não perderá as traduções do arquivo .pot/.po/.mo. Por favor, não se esqueça de incluir as mensagens de erro, o atual “antixscreenshot.sh” não possui tradução para as mensagens de erro e quando exibe a informação que o arquivo será sobrescrito. Hoje eu poderei participar do canal do HexChat e será mais fácil a nossa comunicação.

          #84475
          Member
          kaye

            Yes, I used the

            FD13LIVE.iso

            I have no plans of making it writable at the moment. I just want it as an installer.

            I’m failing to boot it though, no matter what I adjust in BIOS.

            Or should I use this file instead, FD13BOOT.img ?

            Any ideas? It’s an old laptop. Bought 2010.

            Type: Laptop
            System: SAMSUNG
            product: R439/R478 v: N/A
            serial: ZZY093DB200156
            Mobo: SAMSUNG model: R439/R478 serial: 123490EN400015 UEFI: Phoenix
            v: 00UN.M001.20100814.LEO date: 08/14/2010

            UPDATE
            I used the file FD13BOOT.img instead of the iso file.
            I chose “image mode – read only”
            Seems successful.
            In order to boot the freedos live-usb, I had to set the Legacy OS Boot in BIOS to “Enabled”

            Now I have to figure out how to install freedos to the laptop’s hard drive. I have a partition intended just for freedos.
            Right now I don’t know how to install freedos onto that partition on the hard drive.

            UPDATE
            As far as I can tell, freedos cannot be installed on the hard drive if the hard drive is GPT. That’s unfortunate.
            Can anyone confirm?

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            #84415
            Member
            kaye

              Hello again!

              I tried the Boot Repair of the live USB again but instead of choosing the

              Reinstall GRUB bootloader on ESP, MBR or PBR (root)

              I chose the

              Repair GRUB configuration file

              It prompted me to “Select root location:”

              I believe I chose the partition which I intended to be the root partition, is this correct?

              Seems to have worked and now I have a fresh installation of antiX on my hard drive.

              BUT, my obsessive compulsive disorder is bugging me. I need to know the following:

              1. First of all, I changed the intended esp from fat32 to fat16, just out of curiosity. I left the size as is – 400 MB. Seems fine. Looking at GParted, it currently has used up only 536 KB (out of the 400 MB allotted to it). Normal?

              2. I don’t think I’ve done anything drastic to my antiX live USB. All I did was use persistence.

              Currently I can boot into this live USB and run it just fine, but I get these messages at boot:

              
              Failed to set MokListXRT: Out of Resources
              Could not create MokListXRT: Out of Resources
              Welcome to GRUB!
              
              error: no suitable video mode found.
              error: no video mode activated.
              error: no video mode activated.

              then I get into the GRUB menu but it’s not the colored version; it’s just plain black screen with white text:`

              antiX-21 x64-full (31 October 2021)
              Language - Keyboard - Timezone
              Advanced Options
              Memory Test (64-bit UEFI)
              Boot Rescue Menus
              Help

              Is my live-USB corrupted and thus not suitable to use as installer?

              #84405
              Member
              stevix

                Hello stevix.

                When I checked out the RAM the Dell showed DDR, 800 MT/s while the Acer came up as DDR2, 667 MT/s.

                DDR 2 RAM memory card is much faster than DDR, just as DDR is much faster than DIMM. But that’s not all, if the quality of the motherboard is lower, you won’t notice any difference between the speed of the memories. The lower quality of the hard drive also slows everything down. At Associação Mutirão – CCA Jd. Fontális I can perfectly understand these differences, the same model and brand of the motherboard behaves differently, depending on the quality of the RAM memory card and the hard disk for the same antiX installed on this disk.
                I usually say the following, “if the body (the motherboard) is bad, it’s no use having a good brain (processor) and a lot of memory, because the body connects all the parts.”

                – – – – –

                Olá stevix.

                When I checked out the RAM the Dell showed DDR, 800 MT/s whereas the Acer came up as DDR2, 667 MT/s.

                A placa de memória RAM DDR 2 é muito mais veloz do que a DDR, assim como a DDR é muito mais veloz do que a DIMM. Mas não é só isso, se a qualidade da placa-mãe for inferior, você não perceberá diferença entre a velocidade das memórias. A qualidade inferior do disco rígido também torna tudo mais lento. Na Associação Mutirão – CCA Jd. Fontális eu consigo perceber perfeitamente estas diferenças, um mesmo modelo e marca da placa-mãe se comporta diferente, dependendo da qualidade da placa de memória RAM e do disco rígido para o mesmo antiX instalado neste disco.
                Eu costumo dizer o seguinte, “se o corpo (a placa-mãe) é ruim, não adianta ter um bom celebro (processador) e bastante memória, pois o corpo interliga todas as partes.”

                Yes Marcelo, I came to the conclusion a couple of days ago that there are too many other variables to consider. For a completely unrelated reason I did another comparison yesterday. I have a different distro installed on a portable hard drive, and I was checking it’s boot up time. The device is only USB2 and the ports on all my machines are USB2, so I expected things to be a bit slow, but I didn’t expect what I discovered. First off I plugged it into the Dell and carefully timed how long it took to boot, and made a note of it. Then I plugged it into the Acer and timed that, and it took 10 seconds longer. Then as a final check I plugged it into my little netbook, which has a less powerful processor and less than half the RAM of the other two. It booted 5 seconds faster than the Dell, and 15 seconds faster than the Acer. So it booted faster on the least powerful machine, which makes no sense at all to me. But it is what it is, and I don’t intend to delve into it.

                And yes Brian, I often recognise names but haven’t a clue what they relate to! I guess I’m similar age to you (I retire in few months) and I think you get to an age where your head is full, there’s just no room left to put anything else in it.

                #84336
                Moderator
                Brian Masinick

                  Here’s my latest information on my latest boot of antiX using a Frugal USB environment and the inxi-gui, specifying inxi -zv8 and copying the output from the command window here (this is still the Lenovo X201 laptop I said that I would use today, but I was running from disk this morning, and running from USB this afternoon:

                  System:
                    Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
                    v: 10.2.1 
                    parameters: toram desktop=zzz-icewm frugal_home tz=America/New_York quiet 
                    splasht disable=lxF 
                    Desktop: IceWM 2.9.7 dm: N/A 
                    Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 
                    base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
                  Machine:
                    Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 3249CTO v: ThinkPad X201 
                    serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
                    Mobo: LENOVO model: 3249CTO serial: <filter> BIOS: LENOVO 
                    v: 6QET66WW (1.36 ) date: 05/31/2011 
                  Battery:
                    ID-1: BAT0 charge: 79.4 Wh (100.0%) condition: 79.4/84.2 Wh (94.2%) 
                    volts: 12.2 min: 10.8 model: Panasonic 42T4696 type: Li-ion 
                    serial: <filter> status: Full 
                  Memory:
                    RAM: total: 7.6 GiB used: 4.27 GiB (56.2%) 
                    RAM Report: 
                    permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                  PCI Slots:
                    Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                  CPU:
                    Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7 M 620 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
                    arch: Nehalem family: 6 model-id: 25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 7 cache: 
                    L2: 4 MiB bogomips: 21279 
                    Speed: 1199 MHz min/max: 1199/2667 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
                    1: 1199 2: 1199 3: 1199 4: 1466 
                    Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov 
                    constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept est flexpriority fpu 
                    fxsr ht ida kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc 
                    nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 
                    rdtscp rep_good sep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 
                    tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi vpid xtopology xtpr 
                    Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable 
                    Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
                    Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; 
                    SMT vulnerable 
                    Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
                    Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
                    Type: spectre_v1 
                    mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
                    Type: spectre_v2 
                    mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
                    Type: srbds status: Not affected 
                    Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
                  Graphics:
                    Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo 
                    driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300 
                    Device-2: Lenovo Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
                    bus-ID: 1-1.6:5 chip-ID: 17ef:4816 class-ID: 0e02 
                    Display: server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel display-ID: :0.0 
                    screens: 1 
                    Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.3x8.3") 
                    s-diag: 398mm (15.7") 
                    Monitor-1: LVDS1 res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 125 size: 261x163mm (10.3x6.4") 
                    diag: 308mm (12.1") 
                    OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 
                    direct render: Yes 
                  Audio:
                    Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
                    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 
                    class-ID: 0403 
                    Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
                  Network:
                    Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e 
                    v: 3.2.6-k port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10ea class-ID: 0200 
                    IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                    Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel 
                    modules: wl port: 1880 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4238 class-ID: 0280 
                    IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
                    IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                    IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
                    WAN IP: <filter> 
                  Bluetooth:
                    Message: No bluetooth data found. 
                  Logical:
                    Message: No logical block device data found. 
                  RAID:
                    Message: No RAID data found. 
                  Drives:
                    Local Storage: total: 148.54 GiB used: 11.08 GiB (7.5%) 
                    SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
                    ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Toshiba model: THNS128GG4BAAA-NonFDE 
                    size: 119.24 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
                    speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0203 scheme: MBR 
                    ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DTR30G2 
                    size: 29.3 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A 
                    serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR 
                    SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
                    Message: No optical or floppy data found. 
                  Partition:
                    ID-1: /live/boot-dev raw-size: 113.23 GiB size: 110.9 GiB (97.94%) 
                    used: 11.08 GiB (10.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
                    label: antiX-Frugal uuid: 943febc0-1b85-4cf5-b6c9-807acb58b1ad 
                    ID-2: /media/EFI-LIVE raw-size: 4.1 MiB size: 4 MiB (99.38%) 
                    used: 4 MiB (99.6%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18 label: EFI-LIVE 
                    uuid: 7249-CF0E 
                  Swap:
                    Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) 
                    ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 6 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -1 
                    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: swapantiX 
                    uuid: 3772f554-04da-4154-89bc-b1e931af5bad 
                  Unmounted:
                    ID-1: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 size: 1.36 GiB fs: iso9660 
                  USB:
                    Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 2.0 
                    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                    Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
                    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900 
                    Device-1: 1-1.2:3 info: KYE Systems (Mouse Systems) Trackbar Emotion 
                    type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0 
                    speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0458:0007 class-ID: 0301 
                    Device-2: 1-1.3:4 
                    info: Upek Biometric Touchchip/Touchstrip Fingerprint Sensor 
                    type: <vendor specific> driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
                    power: 100mA chip-ID: 147e:2016 class-ID: 0000 
                    Device-3: 1-1.6:5 info: Lenovo Integrated Webcam type: Video 
                    driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 200mA 
                    chip-ID: 17ef:4816 class-ID: 0e02 
                    Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 2.0 
                    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                    Hub-4: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0 
                    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900 
                    Device-1: 2-1.2:3 info: Kingston DTR30G2 type: Mass Storage 
                    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 300mA 
                    chip-ID: 0951:16a2 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter> 
                    Device-2: 2-1.4:4 info: Qualcomm Qualcomm Gobi 2000 
                    type: <vendor specific> driver: qcserial interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 
                    speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 05c6:9204 class-ID: 0000 
                  Sensors:
                    System Temperatures: cpu: 49.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
                    Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1962 
                  Repos:
                    Packages: apt: 1579 lib: 745 
                    Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
                    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/antix/bullseye bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
                    Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list 
                    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
                    Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
                    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
                    Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
                    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
                    2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
                    No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
                  Processes:
                    CPU top: 5 of 212 
                    1: cpu: 17.5% command: firefox.real pid: 32853 mem: 662.5 MiB (8.5%) 
                    2: cpu: 10.0% command: firefox-bin pid: 41162 mem: 163.8 MiB (2.1%) 
                    3: cpu: 8.7% command: firefox-bin pid: 39077 mem: 234.1 MiB (3.0%) 
                    4: cpu: 3.0% command: firefox-bin pid: 33095 mem: 219.6 MiB (2.8%) 
                    5: cpu: 2.2% command: xorg pid: 11866 mem: 42.7 MiB (0.5%) 
                    Memory top: 5 of 212 
                    1: mem: 662.5 MiB (8.5%) command: firefox.real pid: 32853 cpu: 17.5% 
                    2: mem: 234.1 MiB (3.0%) command: firefox-bin pid: 39077 cpu: 8.7% 
                    3: mem: 219.6 MiB (2.8%) command: firefox-bin pid: 33095 cpu: 3.0% 
                    4: mem: 163.8 MiB (2.1%) command: firefox-bin pid: 41162 cpu: 10.0% 
                    5: mem: 126.1 MiB (1.6%) command: firefox-bin pid: 32933 cpu: 1.1% 
                  Info:
                    Processes: 212 Uptime: 50m wakeups: 4 Init: runit v: N/A runlevel: 2 
                    tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 
                    running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.06 

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                  Brian Masinick

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                  stevix

                    I’ve been meaning to give ‘runit’ a spin for a while, so having read this thread decided to do a quick comparison. I have both the standard antix 21 (full) 64 bit and the runit version on a Ventoy USB. Booted each one up in turn and these were my observations. No noticeable difference in boot up time, although the runit version definitely took slightly longer to shut down. I also noticed that according to the on screen info, while in the idle state i.e. just the desktop, no apps running, the runit version was using slightly more RAM. Only about 6Mb difference but more all the same.

                    The laptop I used to do this quick test is old (2009) and is only dual core, but even so my results seem a little odd bearing in mind some of the previous postings regarding runit. So I’ll be interested to hear anyone’s comments.

                    If I get chance I’ll do a bit more thorough comparison at the weekend, but that’s all I’ve had time to do so far.

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                    christophe

                      Try it out. You never know just “how new” or “how old” of a computer the kernel will run on, unless you try.
                      It seems that the iso-snapshot program does not give the choice of kernels, like antiX-full ISO has (but as the “classic” one that antiX-base ISO has).
                      So, if you need to have both options, keep two dvds/usbs on-hand.

                      Try this:
                      1. Make a live-usb from your new snapshot ISO.
                      2. Assuming the newer kernel is also installed, boot into the live-usb & run live-kernel-updater to set up the usb to boot the 5.10-series kernel.
                      3. use the usb for newer machines. use the original dvd for older machines.

                      My experience is that the 5.10 antiX kernel works on most 64-bit machines, but the 4.9 or 4.19 will work on all* 32-bit machines. And some (older) 64-bit machines run fine (maybe even better) with 32-bit kernels. Tailor it to the computers you will be using.

                      *note: “all” in this case means (generally) down to the lowest common denominator that antiX (& Debian) currently support.

                      • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by christophe.
                      • This reply was modified 11 months, 1 week ago by christophe.

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                      Pelucia Siffred

                        The Antix-21_X64-Full.iso boot screen shows two kernels for you to choose which one you want to use, but when I installed new packets in a Live DVD section and used antix’s ISO Snapshot tool to generate a new image of DVD, this new image does not have the boot menu to choose which kernel to use. The only kernel available is the “4.9.0-279-antix.1-AMD64-SMP”. Can I use my new DVD on modern and old computers even if it is using only the oldest kernel? How portable is the new DVD I generated to use on different machines? I would like the option to choose the kernel on the boot screen to be preserved by the “ISO Snapshot” tool.
                        Sorry for bad English, it’s not my native language.

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                        antixjim

                          I have run into some problems trying to install antiX 21 on a 20 year old Compaq 5WV254. I cannot get the BIOS to boot from a USB flash drive and I was unable to get the “PLOP” program to work. I am out of DVD’s so I cannot burn an ISO to a DVD. I tried reinstalling antiX 19 base from a CD-R that I used before, but got in error (INIT not found). I tried installing antiX 21 base on to a CD-R, but it will not fit. I burned antiX 21 Core to a CD-R, but ran into the same problem as the antiX 19 (INIT not found). I could really use some help on this. I am more than happy to start with antiX 19 Base or antiX 21 Core, but I need to know what to do to get past the INIT not found error. Once I get to the live enviornment, I should be able to install antiX without anymore problems (assumeing I can get the wifi working).

                          Success (so far). I am attempting a reinstall of antiX 19 off my old CD-R. This time I selected “Failsafe Boot” to start the live session. I was able to use a right click to get to a menu and start the Installer. antiX 19 is now being installed and may go to completion. Once that happens I will attempt to get the wifi working. It is a Netgear 3100 dongle that apparently has a Broadcom wifi on it. The last time I had to enable a Broadcom wifi on antiX 19 I was eventually successful. I will edit this post if that is successful.

                          Success. Only I do not have the menu button and taskbar at the bottom and have not found were I selected the Broadcom drivers that I had before. At least I got it working this far.

                          • This topic was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by antixjim.
                          • This topic was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by antixjim.
                          #83763
                          Moderator
                          Brian Masinick

                            By the way I have some feedback on the use of Liquorix kernels based on recent use cases.

                            First, I have used Liquorix kernels. Like the antiX kernels they are well engineered. I would say that they provide a good alternative to Debian kernels because they are somewhat more specifically built for interactive work loads. I’ve had many good experiences with them.

                            Recently, however, I have been working with some older systems and this past week I experienced the first difficulty with a Liquorix kernel. I rebooted with an old antiX kernel that I also retained and it worked, so I tried a few other kernels. All of the antiX kernels in both the 4.* and the 5.* versions worked. I didn’t go with a Debian kernel; they’re very good too, but antiX kernels are specifically tested by both development and users; with the 1-2 instances now of an issue, isolated as it was with the Liquorix kernel, I’m favoring the use of antiX kernels for most of us. Experienced users can experiment; anyone unsure should definitely stick with antiX stuff; besides, it further strengthens the number of people using and therefore exposing any rare issues that arise so that we can keep the problems small, identified, managed and fixed.

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                            rokytnji

                              Acer C710 antiX21 chromebook took a nose dive and does not boot anything presently till I dismantle it. Hoping the 16gig ssd slid out out of the sata connector.

                              Broke out the Dell E4310 to check up on the site. Current 64 bit Full Iso install on it. Pretty Dependable laptop. Stays in the house though.

                              Chromebook rides in the saddle bags and gets some rough treatment, I mount a sd card for storage on it.

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                              RomanWolia

                                antix-19.5 is a the latest not 19.4. Why aren’t you installing that one?

                                I was using antix 19.4 because that’s the one I downloaded some time last fall when I was trying it out, for the first time. Now I remember I was having a similar problem with a black screen at startup, but was able to circumvent it using the xorg=intel code back then.
                                This time however, after the „udev done“ message „start X“ appears and after that the screen freezes completely.

                                19.5 must have escaped my attention somehow.

                                Tried out failsafe bootmode – thanks for the hint @christophe – it works and launches the Live OS. Unfortunately the default resolution is way too low for the ~23“ monitor I’m using – and there is no option to change it in arandr. The desktop overall is also set off to the left beyond the display bounderies. Plus the fontsize is so small and blurry, it’s barely readable. Especially not ideal while using GUI installer and trying to understand what the instructions say.
                                Since I didn’t want to fly another install „blind“, I resorted to the last possible workaround I could think of …

                                Downloaded and burned to DVD an antix 21 ISO and went from there. Despite low hopes on my part by now, it did boot a live OS with a desktop and everything on first try. So I’m using that for now.

                                Thank you all for your help.

                                Member
                                madibi

                                  Dear all,
                                  I have an old laptop Asus F3Sg from 2008 that is my main pc (I should better say: the pc that I use more often).

                                  In the internal hd it is installed Peppermint 10 that works fine since march 2020.

                                  As a backup, and also heavy test I have antiX 21, full, 64 (kernel 5.10.17-antix.1): this is installed in an external hd – USB, that I use for my tests. All my data that are in the /home @Peppermint 10, are copied in the /home @antiX21 (not the configuration files of course).

                                  The problem:
                                  after 1 week of tests of the programs that I mainly use, I installed the Nvidia driver from the Control Centre. All was fine.

                                  After another week I installed Wine from the Software Installer (the antiX app centre).
                                  The strange thing that I immediately noted was that I had to download about 1G in the process of the installation but at that moment I didn’t give too much weight to it.

                                  At the reboot the pc went (and continues to go) in kernel panic.

                                  So I tried to boot with the 4.9.0-279-antix.1, and with this I can boot, with the following side affect:
                                  – the program that I should run with wine (chess base 11) works perfectly;
                                  – the Nvidia driver doesn’t start;
                                  – arandr let me go max with 1024×768 instead 1200×800.

                                  The install procedure:

                                  1. A couple of month ago I installed antiX 21, full, 64 on an Acer Aspire one D260 and there I modified the look following the procedure described in the post “How to make antiX look like MacOS using JWM”. All was fine and on that pc all is still working properly (without wine).

                                  2. Using antiX snapshot I created the relevant iso.

                                  3. Using Crea Live USB I created the live usb.

                                  4. I booed the live on the ASUS and during the live session I did:
                                  – sudo apt update,
                                  – sudo apt upgrade.

                                  5. then I installed antiX on the external HD in a directory ad hoc created.

                                  6. then I copied all my files + the /home/.thunderbird/ (this directory alone is > 36 Gb)

                                  7. then after 1 week of tests (web surfing, mail, some libre office document) I installed the Nvidia driver

                                  8. after another week I installed wine and only after this 8th step I had the above described issue.

                                  What above is the 2nd try in a row that goes in the same bad way, so I guess that the problem involves or my creation of the usb, or wine.

                                  I’m on the verge of making a 3rd install, but I think that the problem will came back again

                                  Many thx in advance for your help

                                  m

                                  $ inxi -zv7
                                  System:
                                    Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
                                    v: 10.2.1 Desktop: JWM 2.4.0 info: plank vt: 7 dm: N/A 
                                    Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
                                    base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
                                  Machine:
                                    Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: F3Sg v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
                                    Mobo: ASUSTeK model: F3Sg v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
                                    BIOS: American Megatrends v: 305 date: 02/12/2008 
                                  Memory:
                                    RAM: total: 3.86 GiB used: 915.9 MiB (23.2%) 
                                    RAM Report: 
                                    permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                                  CPU:
                                    Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T7700 bits: 64 type: MCP 
                                    arch: Core Merom rev: B cache: L2: 4 MiB bogomips: 9575 
                                    Speed: 1200 MHz min/max: 800/2401 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
                                    1: 1200 2: 800 
                                    Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc 
                                    cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est flexpriority fpu fxsr ht ida 
                                    kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nopl nx pae pat pbe pdcm 
                                    pebs pge pni pse pse36 rep_good sep ss sse sse2 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 
                                    tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi xtpr 
                                  Graphics:
                                    Device-1: NVIDIA G86M [GeForce 9300M G] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A 
                                    bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:042e class-ID: 0300 
                                    Device-2: Syntek Sonix 1.3MPixel USB 2.0 Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
                                    bus-ID: 1-2:2 chip-ID: 174f:5a35 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
                                    Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 compositor: compton v: 1 driver: 
                                    loaded: nouveau,vesa unloaded: fbdev,modesetting alternate: nv 
                                    resolution: 1024x768 s-dpi: 96 
                                    OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A direct render: N/A 
                                  Audio:
                                    Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK M51S series 
                                    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:284b 
                                    class-ID: 0403 
                                    Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
                                  Network:
                                    Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros Attansic L1 Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK 
                                    driver: atl1 v: 2.1.3 port: bc00 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 1969:1048 
                                    class-ID: 0200 
                                    IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                                    Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network 
                                    driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: port: bc00 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4229 
                                    class-ID: 0280 
                                    IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
                                    IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                                    IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
                                    WAN IP: <filter> 
                                  Bluetooth:
                                    Device-1: ASUSTek BT-183 Bluetooth 2.0+EDR adapter type: USB driver: btusb 
                                    v: 0.8 bus-ID: 4-2:2 chip-ID: 0b05:1712 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter> 
                                    Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 1.2 
                                    lmp-v: 2.0 sub-v: 77b hci-v: 2.0 rev: 77b 
                                  Logical:
                                    Message: No logical block device data found. 
                                  RAID:
                                    Message: No RAID data found. 
                                  Drives:
                                    Local Storage: total: 381.94 GiB used: 100.34 GiB (26.3%) 
                                    ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: HTS542525K9SA00 size: 232.89 GiB 
                                    speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: C31P scheme: MBR 
                                    ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Hitachi model: HTS542516K9SA00 
                                    size: 149.05 GiB type: N/A serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
                                    Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: HL-DT-ST model: DVDRAM GSA-T20L rev: NR02 
                                    dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw 
                                    Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes 
                                    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running 
                                  Partition:
                                    ID-1: / size: 69.91 GiB used: 53.05 GiB (75.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3 
                                    label: rootantiX21 uuid: 7c227693-5145-40a0-b01d-fb24ec2bbad6 
                                    ID-2: /media/madibi/rootantiX21 size: 69.46 GiB used: 47.29 GiB (68.1%) 
                                    fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 label: rootantiX21 
                                    uuid: 7ce4fcbd-261a-45ef-affe-67248e779db1 
                                  Swap:
                                    ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.33 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
                                    priority: -1 dev: /dev/sda2 label: N/A 
                                    uuid: 79b2106f-4d71-45f6-a3b6-5ef0a17aa11a 
                                    ID-2: swap-2 type: partition size: 5.87 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
                                    priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdb2 label: swapantiX 
                                    uuid: 5fba6377-ef8d-4e58-87ef-f0f820bb0ccc 
                                  Unmounted:
                                    ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 230.56 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A 
                                    uuid: 0d71e2df-ec37-45b2-96db-1eb9c4a3e842 
                                  USB:
                                    Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 
                                    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Device-1: 1-2:2 info: Syntek Sonix 1.3MPixel USB 2.0 Camera type: Video 
                                    driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA 
                                    chip-ID: 174f:5a35 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
                                    Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
                                    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Device-1: 2-2:2 info: JMicron / JMicron USA JM20339 SATA Bridge 
                                    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 
                                    speed: 480 Mb/s power: 2mA chip-ID: 152d:2339 class-ID: 0806 
                                    serial: <filter> 
                                    Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 
                                    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 
                                    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Device-1: 4-2:2 info: ASUSTek BT-183 Bluetooth 2.0+EDR adapter 
                                    type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
                                    chip-ID: 0b05:1712 class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter> 
                                    Hub-5: 5-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 
                                    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Hub-6: 6-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 
                                    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Device-1: 6-2:2 info: Microsoft Compact Optical Mouse model 1016 
                                    type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 
                                    speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 045e:00a4 class-ID: 0301 
                                    Hub-7: 7-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 
                                    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                                    Device-1: 7-2:2 info: AuthenTec AES1600 type: <vendor specific> 
                                    driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA 
                                    chip-ID: 08ff:1600 class-ID: ff00 
                                  Sensors:
                                    System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: N/A 
                                    Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
                                  Info:
                                    Processes: 177 Uptime: 12m wakeups: 2 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 
                                    default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Packages: apt: 1852 Shell: Bash 
                                    v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.06 
                                  madibi@LardDisk:~
                                  $
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                                  • This topic was modified 11 months, 3 weeks ago by christophe. Reason: added code tags around inxi output
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