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[Member Irina060]

Big update: It works!! Doing the reinstall and repair from the live usb worked!

I will now try to explain all I did that worked. I dont know if some steps are skippable but I’ll explain everything that did work.

1-Downloaded antix21 base 32bits iso.
2-I used a virtual machine to create a live usb.
3-Rename the file /boot/syslinux/gfx-cpio to /boot/syslinux/gfx-cpio.xxx to convert the boot option into simple text.
(3.5-Optional. Make a full installation in a separate usb and copy the Live files from the live usb into the fully installed usb. That will copy the installer to the full installation. It didnt help me much but it could help others)
4-Open terminal in live usb and do sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade. Also sudo apt install antix-installer installer-data-antix
5-I took the ssd out of the laptop, placed it in an usb enclosure to use other pc to wipe it and format it as ext4.
6-I the used other different pc from the same era, a Athlon classic 1000mhz cpu desktop. Unplugged all other hard drives and connected the usb enclosure to it.
7-Using the live usb installer I managed to install antix. Default install using all the drive, installed grub to mbr.
8-I placed the ssd back to the laptop turned it on to see the grub rescue.
9-In grub rescue I typed:
“ls”
“ls (hd0,msdos1)” this showed me that it is there where antix is installed (as ext2 tho not ext4 I dont know why). But it could be elsewhere for other people.
“set root=(hd0,msdos1)”
“set prefix=(hd0,msdos1)/boot/grub”
——-
“insmod normal” and then “normal” would have been the way but it gave me this error: “attempt to read or write outside of disk ‘hd0” this may not happen to other people tho.
10-I plugged the live usb into the laptop, used plop boot manager cd to boot using the usb. (Remember to take out the cd as soon as antix starts booting)
11-Used the repair boot option and did both reinstall grub and repair grub.
12-Took the usb out and voila it worked!

Now I have to check if everythings works fine, update and stuff.

Thanks everyone we have done it! I couldnt have done it without your help, I deeply appreciate it. I will let everyone know if any problem comes up. But I think everything else will go just fine. Thank you! 🙂

[Member madibi]

@moddit
I have a desktop Acer from 2007 (former win XP) where I put a very old hd 2,5″ from a died laptop and and adapter isa-sata. There my antiX was installed with no probs and the few times I use it, it works flawlessy.

@Irina060
what surprise me in your descriptions is that installing antiX in your system takes a lot of hours. On very old hw from 2002 my antiX installation lasted max 45′. I’d rather focus my attention on the hw compatibility of your system. To my experience very old hw doesn’t work very well with new generation hw (as your ssd is).
Anyway, my suggestion, for your very old and a bit complicate hw, is to dedicate the smallest usb stick that you have to to make the boot (it’s enough one <512Mb).
Then, to make it to work:
1. you have an antiX installed in sda, now without grub,
2. you put an usb stick in sdb,
3. with boot repair, you install grub in sdb.
4. when you want to start antiX, you boot through plop the usb stick in sdb to boot your antiX in sda.

The advantage of this system is that in this way you can immediately test if your system works properly with antiX

EDIT
In case of a new installation (again), when you have to say to the installer where to put grub, you write the port where it is located the usb stick dedicated to grub. This one should be different from the port where there is the antix-iso

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[Member Irina060]

I did try “remaster_antiX-21_sysvinit_386_full_kernel_4.4.0-296_01-16-2022.iso” as you suggested but got same result. I will try again with fast boot disabled.
Also, when I used the usb antix instalation I made. I looked for my laptop specs:

System:    Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp 
           root=UUID=e8856052-1dcf-4898-b20a-bf5c7dbf31db ro quiet 
           Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 vt: 7 dm: N/A Distro: antiX-21_386-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: ACER product: TravelMate 520 v: -1 serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: ACER model: ALi Alladin Pro v: -1 serial: <filter> BIOS: ACER v: 3.3 R01-A3vEN 
           date: 08/14/2001 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 0.3 Wh (0.6%) condition: 53.3/53.3 Wh (100.0%) volts: 14.8 min: 14.8 
           model: AS06 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Charging 
Memory:    RAM: total: 493.9 MiB used: 119.5 MiB (24.2%) 
           RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
PCI Slots: Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
CPU:       Info: Single Core model: Pentium III (Coppermine) bits: 32 type: MCP 
           arch: P6 III Coppermine family: 6 model-id: 8 stepping: A (10) microcode: 4 cache: 
           L2: 256 KiB bogomips: 1790 
           Speed: 895 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 895 
           Flags: cmov cx8 de fpu fxsr mca mce mmx msr mtrr pae pge pse pse36 sep sse tsc vme 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable 
           Type: l1tf status: Vulnerable 
           Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: AMD Rage Mobility AGP 2x Series vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: N/A 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:4c4d class-ID: 0300 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,mach64 
           unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1024x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 271x203mm (10.7x8.0") 
           s-diag: 339mm (13.3") 
           Monitor-1: default res: 1024x768 hz: 87 
           OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.1 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: ULi M5451 PCI AC-Link Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_ali5451 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:06.0 chip-ID: 10b9:5451 class-ID: 0401 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp running: yes 

Just in case it is useful. Not sure it is but just in case.

Update: Same result with “remaster_antiX-21_sysvinit_386_full_kernel_4.4.0-296_01-16-2022.iso” 🙁

[Member PPC]

@Irina – did you ever try to user made antiX isos I recommended initially?
The screen your are getting clearly shows that the computer detects the live media and tries to boot from it, but, for some reason, it only draws the background image and nothing more- it looks like incompatibility between antiX live boot system and your hardware…

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[Member ModdIt]

skylar you ask, Is it in principle possible to use my Android smartphone as the boot device?

Unless you have a very unusual device no, the phone needs confirmation before it will allow data transfer,
that is an android feature present on all versions I have come across.

You can use the phone to prepare a bootable fully featured antiX live USB stick using an application
available on F Droid called ISO to USB, to do so you will need an OTG adapter of some kind or a double
plug usb stick. I use an application called Hash Droid, also from FDroid store to do a sha256 sum
test for downloaded ISO.

Information on device, travelmate exists in variations, should you need help Exact Model number
and BIOS version gives any helper more to work with. If able you will get better performance with maximum
memory, two 512MB modules, one in each slot. Unless I am mistaken below link will take you to a service manual
for your specific device.
https://www.elhvb.com/mobokive/edwin/laptops/Acer/TM220SG.PDF`
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[Moderator christophe]

For that matter, why not use the Core ISO for booting?

Core does not have X, only CLI. You could add to it, of course, to have a GUI. (It’s fun, too!)

confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

[Member Irina060]

So uhm, the athlon desktop decided to stopped working after the first install and did not solved the grub error. The core 2 duo I did the first instalation which caused the first grub error only boots the iso in virtual mode 1280×1024 which would be fine but if I try to install it to a usb it gives me a “failed to prepare required partitions” when trying to format root. And it wont go pass trying to format swap. I tried formating the usb, using other usbs, other pcs, other formating tools and software but nothing works. This is starting to be a little of a headache not gonna lie. I used super grub2 disk which only showed me windows 7s boot option. Also tried rescatux (from same website) but it got into an infinite loop and wouldnt boot (I tried both 0.74 and 0.73 with same result).
Im starting to run out of ideas guys. I dont know why this old laptop wont accept antix. Maybe due to screen resolution or refresh rate idk really. I only have 3 options left at this point: Use a virtual machine to run the iso and install to usb then (idk if possible), keep looking for help everywhere, unetbootin???

[Member dugin]

I already have a deprecated Linux OS frugally installed on sda1. I have been booting this OS using its liveCD for about 4 years now. I never got around to booting this OS from usb, but the liveCD boot works acceptably well. When I say I wish to boot antiX from liveDVD, I am maintaining a consistency of method, however ineffcient, between these two OSes. I may switch to usb booting, eventually, but certainly not now. I have work to do. My work involves manipulating files on and between the two logical ext3 data drives. With antiX, I have a problem with gui access to logical drives. Not only does ROX not (conveniently) see a logical drive, it can’t mount a logical drive. That is a big problem. Thunar (MX Linux) recognizes the two hard drives, but identifies them by their UUID, not their logical drive designations. SpaceFM sees the internal logical drives (including the swap partition) by selecting Devices > Show > internal drives, but will not perform a copy & paste operation once logical drive contents are displayed. I know there is an Event Manager operating, and I need logical drives to be recognized at boot, possibly by appending Automount. This is not an ideal approach, but at least I would have quick access to logical drives upon booting. Ideally, the Event Manager should detect internal logical drives (including optical and usb, but excluding swap) at boot, and then cause display of corresponding icon(s) on desktop that can be clicked to mount device, thereby producing an instance of ROX Filer. Of course, to move files with ROX Filer, user needs two instances of ROX for dragging files from source to destination. Therefore, after the initial click on the desktop icon to mount the logical drive, subsequent clicks of the icon should simply produce another instance of ROX, but not toggle-unmount the logical drive. Maybe a double-click would unmount the logical drive. Or devs could create a gui for mounting and unmounting logical drives (hint, hint). Two things are for sure: I am not going to mount and unmount logical drives from CLI, and I am not going move files around using CLI. If I click a download dialog, and I can’t browse to my logical drives (because they’re not properly mounted?), that is a huge problem. Yet, this is the situation I encounter when I use antiX out of the box. I hope and trust this can be overcome easily. As you can see, I have more issues than just booting this OS from frugal install. Another immediate concern is elimination of the password annoyance. In other words, I need to give admin privileges to user, and please understand, I will ignore admonishments about security.
Christophe, I did try the toram option for booting the liveDVD, but without doing a frugal install. I watched the full ISO (1.2 GB) being loaded into RAM, which took two or three minutes. Upon boot, the OS is working fine. Conky is showing my RAM usage as 551 MB/2.55 GB. Are you suggesting that the base ISO be used for booting a frugal install? For that matter, why not use the Core ISO for booting? (That’s a real question, it’s not rhetorical.)

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[Moderator christophe]

Since you say you are familiar with running antiX live, frugal should be easy. It is just the same, only from hdd instead of usb/dvd.

I recommend testing live & persistence on non-essential machines – or especially live usb sticks. Try persistence & remastering there first, If you haven’t done so yet.

If I were to just give you a first experiment, a setup that you are asking for, I’d suggest this:
Choose F4 = toram
Choose F5 = frugal_root (or persist_root if you are using live-usb instead of frugal from hdd)
Choose F8 = save settings

(Dvd won’t have F8. Use live usb if possible, or you’ll have to reselect these choices on each boot.)

This will load the whole OS into RAM (using antiX base ISO, that’s about 800 MB?).

Then when booting first time with persistence, it will ask you how large persistence file – choose “custom,” and then 3 GB.

Then further on, you will be asked for your choice on saving persistence changes. Choose automatic.

These are first-time decisions. Next boot, antiX remembers.

You will want to read up on “remastering” your system. Make sure you know how to remaster. That’s essential, in my opinion. You have to reserve a few GBs for remastering, to be safe.

Your first remaster should be after installing the software you want. Then again after upgrades start filling your persistence file.

Personally, I like to remaster before I fill up the persistence file to about 2 GB. Or even by about 1 GB. Because that all gets loaded into memory, and you need to have ram for operations. When you remaster, it compresses it & makes use of your resources better.

Eventually you’ll want to run “set up persistence” to delete your old persistence files after you’ve remastered.

But start experimenting. And ask (& read old threads) on the forum any further questions.

There are more “succinct” or clever uses of the antiX live system also (like Moddit alluded to).

But this will get you started. Play around and read & watch dolphin_oracle’s videos.

The antiX live system is fun. And there is no substitute for digging in and getting your hands dirty with it.

See also
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

Hi,

In case anyone has an old Digidesign Mbox 2 audio card that they want to use on an antiX machine, I’m here to tell you that I made it work. Digidesign is known for their hostile attitude towards Linux users, so it was great to see this actually work.

If your card has v 1.43 firmware, then the card should work right out of the box. However, if your card has an older version of the firmware, you will need to update it, and the process will be convoluted. Basically, you will need to update the firmware in Windows XP. Two different approaches have been suggested online.

The first approach involves installing Windows XP in a virtual machine. I downloaded an ISO of XP – there is one on archive,org, but I had to use an alternative source. Installing XP on VirtualBox was fine. I ran into issues with this approach, however. XP does not come with included network drivers, so you need to download the drivers on your main machine, and set up a shared folder in VirtualBox to access this file. I had problems getting the shared folder to work, so I opted for the second approach. Also, I read people having problems with connecting the USB device to the virtual machine. You might get this to work, however, if you manage to get the necessary drivers and software onto your virtual XP installation…

The second approach involved updating the firmware on an actual XP installation. I was fortunate enough to have an old hard drive with a bootable installation of XP lying around, so I booted that up. (Shouldn’t take too long to install if you have a spare drive lying around.) The I first thing I had to do was install the actual drivers for the sound card. Since it’s impossible to run a browser securely on XP, I downloaded the drivers to a USB. I found driver version 9.0.2.65 (Mar 8, 2011) for Windows on this page:

https://avid.secure.force.com/pkb/articles/en_US/Download/Mbox-2-Drivers

The installation went OK. Next, I installed the Mbox 2 Firmware Updater v1.43 for Windows XP, which I found here:

http://secure.digidesign.com/services/avid/kb/downloads.cfm?digiArticleId=24364

Typically, like a lot of devices on XP the installation needs to be with great care taken to start the program and plug the device in at the right time. Follow the instructions very carefully.

Finally, I was able to successfully update the firmware, and voila: The card worked right out the box in antiX 21, I just needed to run the sound card chooser in the control centre.

Furthermore, I was able to connect up the sound card with the JACK audio server, and to successfully open a session in Ardour. Ardour is available for free in the Debian repo, and I must say that I’m impressed with it. (I like Waveform Free too, but couldn’t get it working on my old box.) It has some fine native plugins, and manages to run VST too. It works great with both audio and MIDI. For MIDI, I suggest starting out with the Sitala drum plugin, and a combination of synths including ZynAddSubFx/Yoshimi, Surge, Helm, Dexed, TAL Noisemaker, Tyrell Nexus 6, and Zebralette. With very modest hardware, you can indeed make professional-sounding music in antiX. I might even post a track here one day 🙂

• This topic was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by punranger.

antiX linux: The best way to revive an old computer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCTaUAP6sSg

[Member marcelocripe]

Hello Irina060.

Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.

I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original Brazilian Portuguese text directly into your language with the help of internet translators.

Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.

When you start any topic or participate with any post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option you will receive a message in your email inbox whenever there are replies to the topic in question.

After the basic instructions, I’ll try to help you with what little I know.

Your “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram” doesn’t seem to be a problem for antiX 21 to work, the oldest technology I have contact that has antiX installed and running are 32bit Pentium 4 and Celeron. But, you didn’t respond to the information that was requested, which makes it even more difficult for any normal human being to be able to help you.

1 – We need you to return with the information that was requested in this topic.

2 – Try to identify the brand and model of your laptop and let us know, eventually we will find your laptop manual on the internet.

3 – We need to identify the brand and model of your laptop’s graphics card. If it’s SIS or Via, certainly the 32-bit ISO Remastering antiX 21 Full 32-bit and 64-bit with Kernel 4.4.0-296 will work.

4 – Have you downloaded the 32-bit ISOs and checked the md5? The 64bit ISO will not work on your Pentium 3.

5 – As far as I can remember, the 64bit ISO has the first menu with the F1 option that is of help, in addition to the menus where you can choose between the “Use Legacy Kernel” or “Use Modern Kernel”, if it is this one screen you saw, so you downloaded 64bit ISOs and it won’t work on your “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram”.

6 – The 32-bit and 64-bit ISO from Remaster of antiX 21 Full 32-bit and 64-bit with Kernel 4.4.0-296 do not have the “Use” options Legacy Kernel” or “Use Modern Kernel”.

7 – Access your laptop’s BIOS and check if there is an option that blocks the boot of other operating systems other than Windows, the text should look similar to this “Secure Boot Option” and it should be “Disabled”.

I can’t imagine what it can be apart from these 7 items left to be analyzed.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)

– – – – –

Olá violet_spark.

Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.

Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

Depois das instruções básicas, eu vou tentar te ajudar com o pouco que eu conheço.

O seu “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram” não parece ser um problema para o antiX 21 funcionar, a tecnologia mais antiga que eu tenho contato que possui o antiX instalado e em funcionamento são Pentium 4 e Celeron de 32 bits. Mas, você não respondeu as informações que foram solicitadas, o que torna ainda mais difícil para qualquer um ser humano normal poder te ajudar.

1 – Precisamos que você retorne com as informações que foram solicitadas neste tópico.

2 – Tente identificar a marca e o modelo do seu laptop e nos informe, eventualmente encontraremos o manual do seu laptop na internet.

3 – Precisamos identificar a marca e o modelo da placa de vídeo do seu laptop. Se for SIS ou Via, certamente a ISO de 32 bits Remasterização do antiX 21 Full de 32 e 64 bits com o Kernel 4.4.0-296 funcionará.

4 – Você baixou as ISOs de 32 bits e verificou o md5? A ISO de 64 bits não irá funcionar no seu Pentium 3.

5 – Até onde eu me lembro, a ISO de 64 bits possui o primeiro menu com a opção F1 que é de ajuda, além dos menus onde você pode escolher entre o “Use Legacy Kernel” ou “Use Modern Kernel”, se for esta tela que você viu, então você baixou ISOs de 64 bits e não vai funcionar no seu “pentium 3 900mhz 512mb ram”.

6 – A ISO de 32 bits e a de 64 bits da Remasterização do antiX 21 Full de 32 e 64 bits com o Kernel 4.4.0-296 não possuem as opções “Use Legacy Kernel” ou “Use Modern Kernel”.

7 – Acesse o BIOS do seu laptop e verifique se existe uma opção que bloqueia a inicialização de outros sistema operacionais que sejam diferentes do Windows, o texto deve ser semelhante a este “Secure Boot Option” e deve ser “Disabled”.

Eu não consigo imaginar o que pode ser além destes 7 itens que faltam ser analisados.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Member Irina060]

Nothing happens if I press F1. When the boot process reaches that point it freezes completly.
Well yes it has to be the laptop, all the isos work in a virtual machine. But I thought antix was meant for old systems like mine, a pentium 3 (900mhz). And antix 19 worked fine in a pentium 3 (500mhz). Does antix work in other pentium 3s?

[Member Irina060]

The laptop is not capable of booting with usb by default. I used plop boot manager to try that and although it did boot with usb the result was the same. Only the “press F1 for help”. I also used plop->usb for the 4.4.0 kernel iso with same result. I will keep using this method if I can because it is more convinient than burning dvds.
I burned plop into a dvd and let me boot to usb.
I dont really know why I cant upload images tho Im trying but I always seem to have an upload error. I’ll try again now.

[Member PPC]

Irina060 wrote:

the screen only displays “press F1 for help”

Please check if the iso file is corrupted.
It can also be a video problem – please try alternative antiX “via” isos. linked to in the forum (https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/remasterizacao-do-antix-21-completo-de-32-e-64-bits-com-o-kernel-4-4-0-296/ )

Irina060 wrote:

I’ll try with plop boot manager, should I try core and net version?

I think it should make no difference at all, if the Full version does not boot, probably no other version will boot, but there’s no harm in trying…

Irina060 wrote:

I’m doing a multiboot with windows xp and 7. Idk if that is causing anu issues (I dont think it should).

I think you are correct on this assumption.

P.

[Member ModdIt]

@ PDP-8, if you are a strange one for using SD cards I stand alongside you. Most seem very reliable in long term usage.

If a card reader slot on the device can be used for boot I use it, lowered risk of damage being main reason.
Repairing board damage, when a device has been mishandled with an inserted usb stick or cable is often difficult and very time consuming.

With regard to speed of running from USB, with a good stick and USB 2 faster boot and application opening than my best available comparison,
a 7200RPM desktop drive can deliver.
On my Thinkpad which has an unmarked USB3 Port next to charger socket, running antiX live without persistence feels as fast as the fitted SSD.
On a USB 3.1 port the limiting factor is definitely the USB stick. With an EMMC to USB adapter as fast as the internal hardware can handle.

Regarding the remark from subluminal on portability of antiX running live, it is pretty much amazing. Only boot or install failures I have seen
were on very recent hardware.

antiX is in many ways my celebrated king and queen of linux. I bow deeply to all the developers involved.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by ModdIt.