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    IoI_xD

      Hi! I’ll start by apologizing, I really don’t know whether this should go in the software or hardware section. Feel free to move this.

      On my neverending quest to get a modern web browser (and maybe even SFTP, which is arguably more important since it would be the best and safest option of getting files onto an old OS) working on Windows 98, I’ve looked into virtualizing Linux under the OS; some may consider this cheating and question why I don’t just put Anti-X on the real hardware, and to that I don’t have a good response, other then “because why not?” (and I’ll take anything to get a modern web browser working on this, as the newest you can get suffers from graphical glitches and slowdown. Even getting a slightly outdated browser working is better then what I, and other friends who like screwing around with Windows 98, have currently).

      I got Anti-X running under QEMU previously, but it run horrifically slow as the oldest version that you can get working on Windows 98 (using KernelEx, a software for getting a select few Windows XP programs running under 98) was barely designed for Windows. So I’ve looked into VirtualPC 4.0, a program that natively works under win98, and I’ve tried to get AntiX 20 working under it. I’m actually able to boot the antiX ISO, and by putting acpi=off into the kernel parameters I can get it to start without an error about no ACPI. However, soon afterwards I get a kernel panic, and cannot continue. The kernel panic is preceeded by…

      
      dmi: Firmware registration failed.
      01:01 invalid checksum 0xa8
      invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP
      Modules linked in:
      . . .
      

      I can’t copy paste the log since it’s in a virtual machine, and the log isn’t stored anywhere since it’s a live iso, and I don’t want to type out the entire thing for fear of typos, so I’ll simply put a screenshot here for the whole thing. Sorry.

      A kernel panic achieved by running AntiX in VirtualPC

      I’d like to get AntiX running because of the promise of this running under a Pentium 2 with 128MB ram; my hobbyist windows 98 pc has a Celeron D with 512MB ram, and while you can hack 98 to get up to 3GB ram, I don’t actually have that much and I don’t think my motherboard even supports it. But honestly, if there is any virtualization software that might work under Windows 98 and can run any relatively modern Linux at a good speed, I will take it.

      That said, after trying all the alternate options in the boot menu, I’m out of options. What boot parameters can I try to get this running?

      Best regards, IoI_xD

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      • This topic was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by christophe.
      #70837
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      blackwood

        i installed the driver from the nvidia driver installer on the control center

        $ inxi -zv7
        System:    Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 vt: 7 dm: N/A 
                   Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
        Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBook7,1 v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 v: Mac-F22C89C8 
                   serial: <filter> 
                   Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F22C89C8 serial: <filter> UEFI: Apple v: MB71.88Z.003F.B00.1802022149 date: 02/02/18 
        Memory:    RAM: total: 1.7 GiB used: 312.4 MiB (17.9%) 
                   RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
        CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo P8600 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn rev: A cache: L2: 3 MiB bogomips: 9556 
                   Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 798/2394 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 
                   Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est 
                   flexpriority fpu fxsr ht kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nopl nx pae pat pbe pdcm pebs pge pni pse 
                   pse36 rep_good sep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi xsave xtpr 
        Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP89 [GeForce 320M] vendor: Apple driver: nvidia v: 340.108 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:08a0 
                   class-ID: 0300 
                   Device-2: Apple Built-in iSight type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:2 chip-ID: 05ac:8507 class-ID: 0e02 
                   serial: <filter> 
                   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: nvidia note: n/a (using device driver) unloaded: fbdev 
                   resolution: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 
                   OpenGL: renderer: N/A v: N/A direct render: N/A 
        Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA MCP89 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:08.0 chip-ID: 10de:0d94 
                   class-ID: 0403 
                   Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
                   Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no 
        Network:   Device-1: NVIDIA MCP89 Ethernet vendor: Apple driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: 22a0 bus-ID: 00:09.0 
                   chip-ID: 10de:0d7d class-ID: 0200 
                   IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
                   IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                   IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
                   Device-2: Broadcom BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n vendor: Apple AirPort Extreme driver: wl v: kernel port: 2280 
                   bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4353 class-ID: 0280 
                   IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
                   IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                   IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
                   WAN IP: <filter> 
        Bluetooth: Device-1: Apple Bluetooth Host Controller type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 4-6.3:7 chip-ID: 05ac:8218 
                   class-ID: fe01 
                   Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: stopped rfk-block: hardware: no software: no 
                   address: <filter> 
        Logical:   Message: No logical block device data found. 
        RAID:      Message: No RAID data found. 
        Drives:    Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 4.73 GiB (4.0%) 
                   ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: SanDisk model: SD7SB3Q-128G-1006 size: 119.24 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> 
                   rev: 0006 scheme: GPT 
                   Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: MATSHITA model: DVD-R UJ-898 rev: HD10 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw 
                   Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r state: running 
        Partition: ID-1: / size: 113.97 GiB used: 4.73 GiB (4.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 label: rootantiX21 
                   uuid: 50067456-88ae-4780-8893-2cd862df86ff 
                   ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 label: EFI System uuid: B94E-C341 
        Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.62 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -1 dev: /dev/sda3 label: swapantiX 
                   uuid: 3dfdb17d-7948-481a-95d4-98d982d937da 
        Unmounted: Message: No unmounted partitions found. 
        USB:       Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                   Device-1: 1-6:2 info: Apple Built-in iSight type: Video driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                   power: 500mA chip-ID: 05ac:8507 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
                   Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                   Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                   Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
                   Device-1: 4-3:2 info: Apple Internal Keyboard/Trackpad (ISO) type: Keyboard,HID,Mouse driver: apple,bcm5974,usbhid 
                   interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 40mA chip-ID: 05ac:0237 class-ID: 0301 
                   Device-2: 4-4:3 info: Pixart Imaging Optical Mouse type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 
                   speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 093a:2510 class-ID: 0301 
                   Hub-5: 4-6:4 info: Broadcom BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth) ports: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
                   power: 94mA chip-ID: 0a5c:4500 class-ID: 0900 
                   Device-1: 4-6.3:7 info: Apple Bluetooth Host Controller type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 
                   speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 05ac:8218 class-ID: fe01 
        Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A 
                   Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
        Info:      Processes: 131 Uptime: 23m wakeups: 3 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 
                   Packages: apt: 1652 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.06
        #70763
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        PPC

          @Wallon: you raised some very valid points:
          -Newer hardware tends to make it more difficult to install another OS other than Windows (I did not know about AMD dropping Linux support for their latest video cards, I’ll have to read up on that). You do need to have some technical know-how to burn an iso to a pendrive and configure a computer to boot from a pendrive- now people have to know how to disable Fast Boot AND Secure Boot…
          -antiX is considerably well translated to pt and pt-br (the exception is that for now we have to manually install localization files for LibreOffice and Firefox-esr). I can tell you that I make a pretty advanced use of my antix computers and it’s, particularly in antiX21, almost impossible to see another language other that Portuguese (the exception is Connman’s CMST that is party translated as is the final message that comes up when you run the antiX updater). If you install localization files for LibreOffice/Firefox, a normal Portuguese speaking user will have to work hard to find untranslated parts of antiX. sure there are some more esoteric menu entries that still have to be localized. I’ll try to work on that (for pt and pt-br languages)
          I used MX linux for quite some time and found no localization problems. In MXFB, however, there are some problems in the menu (the All Apps remained unlocalized the last time I tried it) but that’s because they have a tiny Dev team- it’s main dev, Jerry, asks often for help localizing .desktop files.
          I just took a look at that “market share” website- I’d guess that at least half of the “unknown” Os’s are some kind of Linux. Also, at least in Portugal, mobile OS’s (android/Ios) are about a third of the market share.

          On Linux, in general, not coming preinstalled on devices- it does come with system76 (an American brand, I believe) and with Slimbook devices- a Spanish brand- https://slimbook.es/en/linux2
          But, even so, the major bug that I talked about in my OP happened in system76 made OS, that comes preinstalled onto their laptops! a Linux distro coming preinstalled is no warranty that it’s a good or bug free distro…

          Unless there’s some unforeseen change in tech, I do believe that, at least laptops and gaming desktops are here to stay for at least a decade more. Maybe I’m wrong on that. But many people still love typing at a physical keyboard, and gamers like huge screens, and being able to use keyboards or gamepads… I do see the market splitting, with a growing number of young people that has never used a computer, but always have a smart device glued to one hand… and computer using folks. Those young “pcless” folks will get a big surprise when they get to start real work and they are placed in front of a keyboard and a screen that’s “touchless”.
          I recently heard a podcast that talked about something like under graduates at a lab not knowing how to work with a computer- they did not know how a file manager worked, and could not open the needed files- because, you see, smart phones and tablets tend to show files organized by file types (movies, pictures, documents, etc) and users tend to not know where their files are… In the case I heard about, the Professor had to teach them the basics of working with a real computer…

          P.

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          • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by PPC.
          #70754
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          ModdIt

            Thanks PPC,
            I had seen the article along with a few others. My Lemony experience has made me cautious with
            applications, one of the things I installed was from Play and reported safe and virus free.
            I had to reset phone to get rid of the crap it downloaded in the background.

            The app you linked
            Requires an already downloaded ISO file but wants com android billing and full network permission.
            Smells somewhat fishy.

            I will order an adapter and try the FDroid offering. The capability to use a phone for preparation
            of a boot device could be very useful anywhere that a computer with an intact os is a rarety.
            See if Marcello has looked in to this idea.

            My present phone is so ridiculusly overpowered I may be able to make some real use of it.

            #70741
            Member
            PPC

              When creating your boot pen drive with rufus, you have to select the correct option, in order to be able to use persistence:

              (from https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/08/rufus-creating-persistent-storage-live.html)

              Rufus persistent live USB
              
              To create a persistent storage live USB of Debian [...] using Rufus 3.7 or newer, select the ISO and a new Persistent partition size option will show up, with a slider that allows setting the persistent partition size. Setting this to 0 disables persistent storage, and setting it to any value larger than 0 enables persistent storage.

              P.

              #70735
              Member
              PPC

                Try this, mate: https://www.buildsometech.com/create-bootable-usb-from-android/

                The app can be downloaded from here: https://iso-2-usb.en.aptoide.com/app

                I never tested this, just read about it…

                P.

                #70734
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                ModdIt

                  Before I start reinventing the wheel,
                  has anyone in the forum succesfully used this way of creating a bootable antiX stick.

                  I will order a usb OTG adapter for my phone, intend to try and create a bootable thumbdrive with EtchDroid
                  downloaded from fDroid store.
                  The application is in Beta but if it works a very useful tool.

                  A play store application, actually I have no play store, no goog either.
                  One on APK Pure bombards with ads and according to a forum info installs crapware in background.

                  #70705
                  Member
                  tupp

                    Thanks everyone for the prompt replies!

                    What kind of machine is it and which kernel did you boot with?

                    I tired both kernels and neither allowed poweroff.

                    Here is the result of inxi -Fxz:

                    System:    Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 
                               Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
                    Machine:   Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 9010 v: 01 serial: <filter> 
                               Mobo: Dell model: 0M9KCM v: A01 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A30 date: 06/28/2018 
                    CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-3770 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L2: 8 MiB 
                               flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 54271 
                               Speed: 3850 MHz min/max: 1600/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3850 2: 3032 3: 3844 4: 3757 5: 2297 6: 3553 7: 3833 
                               8: 2293 
                    Graphics:  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Caicos XT [Radeon HD 7470/8470 / R5 235/310 OEM] vendor: Dell 
                               driver: radeon v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 
                               Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa 
                               resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
                               OpenGL: renderer: AMD CAICOS (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 11.0.1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 
                               direct render: Yes 
                    Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
                               bus-ID: 00:1b.0 
                               Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
                    Network:   Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 00:19.0 
                               IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
                    Drives:    Local Storage: total: 2.57 TiB used: 66.26 GiB (2.5%) 
                               ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 500GB size: 465.76 GiB 
                               ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Maxtor model: STM3320620AS size: 298.09 GiB 
                               ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Western Digital model: WD20EZRX-00D8PB0 size: 1.82 TiB 
                    Partition: ID-1: / size: 57.37 GiB used: 4.57 GiB (8.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
                               ID-2: /home size: 389.93 GiB used: 61.69 GiB (15.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
                    Swap:      Alert: No swap data was found. 
                    Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 29.8 C mobo: 27.8 C gpu: radeon temp: 46.5 C 
                               Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
                    Info:      Processes: 191 Uptime: 5m Memory: 15.59 GiB used: 631.1 MiB (4.0%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: 
                               gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1645 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06

                    Did you look for errors with dmesg?

                    I found this:

                    [    2.513780] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000428-0x000000000000042F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000400-0x000000000000047F (\PMIO) (20160831/utaddress-238)
                    [    2.513787] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
                    [    2.513790] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000540-0x000000000000054F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x0000000000000563 (\GPIO) (20160831/utaddress-238)
                    [    2.513794] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
                    [    2.513795] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000530-0x000000000000053F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x0000000000000563 (\GPIO) (20160831/utaddress-238)
                    [    2.513799] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
                    [    2.513800] ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000500-0x000000000000052F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x0000000000000563 (\GPIO) (20160831/utaddress-238)
                    [    2.513803] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
                    [    2.513804] lpc_ich: Resource conflict(s) found affecting gpio_ich

                    Its not clear whether the problem is with the kernel/boot parms, what was in the /home directory, or something else. If you have space on the drive, do a normal antiX install to that partition, boot to it, and see if it functions normally or not.

                    I might just try a complete reinstall and completely clean out the /home directory.

                    I read this as your “custom” antiX is using your old Devuan home partition. Am I wrong?

                    You are correct. I cleaned out a lot of cruft, but there are certain config files which I would like to keep in /home.

                    @ christophe: That is how I read it as well.
                    My quick suggestion to try would be to make a new user account and see if the same problems exist. However given the following line there is a different underlying problem.

                    Thanks. It might be better to just move everything in /home to another partition and do a clean reinstall, and then carefully copy everything back.

                    For example the system could be having troubles using the acpi commands correctly to actually power off the machine.

                    Indeed. There were some acpi errors in dmesg (see above).

                    The other issues with the incorrect path being set as well as issues with the runlevel configuration seems to suggest some level of corruption on the install. (Assuming the installation media / ISO has been verified ok via checksum)

                    Yes. That is why I am thinking of a reinstall. The checksum matched the iso.

                    By the way, the last time it got stuck in the console without powering down, for kicks I pressed “ctrl-alt-bkspace” and the messages in the attached photo appeared. It can’t seem to make it to the halt command.

                    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by tupp.
                    • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by tupp.
                    #70565

                    In reply to: Modern kernel??

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                    christophe

                      When running live-usb, you select your kernel/other options once, and at the end of the choices menu, you choose to save. Then when you boot live-usb subsequently, all your choices are used automatically. Just hit enter or wait for the boot timeout.

                      When you install antiX, the “modern” kernel gets used as default.

                      But if you want to use Mint, use that. It will not hurt our feelings. antiX works hard to support older computers — something that few distros seem to want to do — as well as new computers. That’s why there are the two kernels on the “full” ISO. There are plenty of distros to fit plenty of tastes: choose whichever you like. 🙂

                      • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by christophe.

                      confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

                      #70116
                      Member
                      ModdIt

                        Thanks xecure, busy too,
                        Changing passwords on my cable router is a pain, can not use same twice, means no going back to where all our
                        devices work.
                        If things like \ and $ are a problem in a password field someone at Intel needs a boot in the butt.
                        Router has no issue with those.
                        As long as each used character has a separate code it should just be a case of a comparison to the local password in device
                        or system.

                        I have never used ceni, maybe I can see if that will get my netbook comnnected in Bullseye.

                        #69996
                        Member
                        violet_spark

                          Hi, we’re violet spark, among other names we go by on the webs. We got an old lightweight netbook recently to use as a mobile communications device, with 2 gigs of ram and a 32-bit intel atom topping out at a screaming 1.33GHz. We were browsing the ol’ distrowatch trying to find a lightweight 32-bit distro with a similar batteries-included + packages available feel of the ubuntu-derived puppy linuxes, since fossapup is 64bit only now that ubuntu dropped 32-bit. Came across antiX and gosh are we glad we did, its basically exactly what we were hoping for and more!

                          We decided to go for a traditional install since it’s kinda ram limited. We’ve got a fun setup with grub4dos on a FAT32 partition that’s set to either boot our real system, or the live antiX iso that’s also living on the FAT32 partition for recovery purposes. Finding the 5.10 kernel in the repos was a pleasant surprise too, since thats new enough to give us wireguard as well as the lzo-rle algorithm for zram.

                          Anyways, happy to be here, thanks everyone involved for creating this. It’s a perfect match for this little computer friend, and we’re using it for some VMs now too.

                          • This topic was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by violet_spark.
                          #69993
                          Forum Admin
                          anticapitalista

                            This is just a quick starter for those who prefer to avoid dbus,dbus-x11 and elogind.
                            Tested in Virtualbox. English only.

                            Stage 1: Installation

                            1. Download antiX-21 net (runit or sysVinit)
                            2. Boot the iso and at the prompt login as root (password=root) and type cli-installer
                            3. Follow the instructions.
                            4. Make sure you answer Yes to ‘Is this a net install?’
                            5. When asked if you want to install elogind dbus etc, choose No (default)
                            6. Continue until antiX-21-net has been installed – reboot to installed version.

                            Stage 2: Getting a basic ‘desktop’.

                            1. login as user then either use sudo or su to root. I prefer the latter.
                            2. Update packages apt update && apt dist-upgrade
                            3. Install X apt install xorg
                            4. If you are going to use startx instead of a login manager, you need to apt install xserver-xorg-legacy
                            5. Install your window manager of choice eg apt install openbox
                            6. exit root (if you were using su) and as user type startx
                            7. You now have a very minimal openbox ‘desktop’

                            Stage 3: Adding (gui) apps

                            This is the difficult part as far as avoiding dbus, dbus-x11 and elogind is concerned.

                            Suggestions below – feel free to add your own.

                            rxvt-unicode (terminal)
                            leafpad (text editor)
                            rox-filer or zzzFM
                            mpv (video/audio)
                            smtube (it works without dbus etc!)
                            ytfzf (youtube videos)
                            libreoffice-writer
                            libreoffice-impress
                            lxappearance (lazy way to customise looks)
                            mupdf (pdf reader)
                            links2 (browser)
                            dillo (browser)

                            Note: All the big browsers will install dbus and dbus-x11

                            Stage 4: Beautify

                            Purely subjective, but I installed

                            adwaita-icon-theme-antix
                            arc-evopro2-theme-antix
                            dmz-cursor-theme
                            papirus-mini-antix

                            Login Managers:

                            If you want a login screen, you have these options

                            lxdm
                            xdm
                            wdm

                            For slimski or slim, you will need to install seatd first

                            apt install seatd

                            You might need to tinker some config files, but it’s good fun.

                            Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                            antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                            #69946
                            Member
                            olsztyn

                              Just an error to report:
                              Runit (I do not think runit matters here) antiX 21 install alive to SATA internal HD fails on partitioning hard drive.
                              Install performed from the initial antiX 21 Full from terminal:
                              sudo live-usb-maker –force=usb
                              Then selecting option to create preceding Data partition.
                              Process:
                              $ sudo live-usb-maker –force=usb
                              ===============================================================================
                              Starting live-usb-maker 2.41.18
                              ===============================================================================
                              Found live media device /dev/sdb
                              Only one target usb device was found sda
                              Will use target device sda (55.9G ATA HTS721060G9SA00)

                              Please select an action to perform
                              = Make a full-featured live-usb
                              > Start live-usb with a data partition
                              > Make an encrypted full-featured live-usb
                              > Make a customized live-usb (includes encryption option)
                              > Other options
                              Press <Enter> to select the highlighted entry
                              Use ‘h’ for help, ‘r’ to redraw, ‘q’ to quit

                              Please select the source for the new live-usb
                              = Clone this live system (sdb1)
                              > Copy from an ISO file
                              Press <Enter> to select the highlighted entry
                              Use ‘h’ for help, ‘r’ to redraw, ‘q’ to quit
                              Live boot directory /antiX
                              Will use source directory /live/boot-dev
                              Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021
                              Found grub config 2.0

                              Total Used Extra
                              entire drive 55.9 GiB 55.9 GiB 1 MiB
                              main partition 55.8 GiB 1.40 GiB 54.4 GiB
                              uefi partition 50 MiB 20 MiB 30 MiB

                              ——————————————————————————-
                              Ready to make live-usb on device sda
                              … by cloning directory /live/boot-dev
                              ——————————————————————————-

                              Shall we begin?
                              = yes
                              > no
                              > pretend mode
                              Press <Enter> to select the highlighted entry
                              Use ‘h’ for help, ‘r’ to redraw, ‘q’ to quit
                              >> partition-clear
                              >> partition-make
                              Using msdos partitioning
                              Error: Partitioning failed at making
                              partition: Partitioning failed at
                              demo@antix1:

                              I did not run into this problem with 21B2. However a Possibility is that condition of hard disk partition table changed, not necesssarily difference between antiX 21 Golden and B2.

                              Update!!!!
                              The issue resolved:
                              When this error persisted – Live usb maker was not able to create partitions on SATA internal HD then:
                              – Manually Gparted HD into one partition with warning that kernel could not be updated on this
                              – Rebooted so kernel would re-read partition table
                              – Re-ran sudo live-usb-maker –force=usb
                              – Worked fine now

                              I am not clear why this requires manual workaround but now I think I remember running into such occasion on antiX21 B2 as well in the past, so there is no difference between antix21 Golden and B2 in this case I think.

                              • This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by olsztyn.

                              Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                              https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                              #69841
                              Forum Admin
                              anticapitalista

                                antiX-21 (Grup_Yorum) is based on Debian Bullseye and is fully systemd-free.

                                As usual we offer the following systemd-free flavours for both 32 and 64 bit architecture, running sysVinit or runit. The 32 bit versions use a non-pae kernel.

                                antiX-full (c1.4GB) – 4 windows managers – IceWM (default), fluxbox, jwm and herbstluftwm plus full libreoffice suite. x64 versions come with 2 kernels. Legacy 4.9 and Modern 5.10

                                antiX-base (<<800MB – fits on 800MB cd) – 4 windows managers – IceWM (default), fluxbox, jwm and herbstluftwm.

                                antiX-core (c440MB) – no X, cli-installer without encryption, but should support most wireless.

                                antiX-net (c180MB)- no X, cli-installer without encryption. Just enough to get you connected (wired) and ready to build. For experts.

                                Note 1: runit editions now set up in a similar way to Void/Artix.
                                Users should be prepared to familiarize themselves with how runit services work

                                Note 2: After installation of antiX-21_x64-full editions, the default kernel will be the Modern 5.10 one even if Legacy 4.9 was booted during the live boot.

                                * Based on Debian 11 (Bullseye), but without systemd and libsystemd0.
                                * eudev instead of udev
                                * Customised 4.9.0-279 kernel with fbcondecor splash
                                * Customised 5.10.57 kernel (x64 full only)
                                * libreoffice 7.0.4-4
                                * firefox-esr 78.14.0esr-1 on antiX-full
                                * seamonkey 2.53.9.1 on antiX-base
                                * claws-mail 3.17.8-1
                                * cups for printing
                                * xmms -for audio
                                * celluloid and mpv – for playing video
                                * smtube – play youtube videos without a using a browser
                                * streamlight-antix – stream videos with very low RAM usage.
                                * qpdfview – pdf reader
                                * arc-evopro2-theme-antix

                                File managers and desktop:

                                * zzzFM
                                * rox-filer

                                Convert your video and audio files with:

                                * winff
                                * asunder

                                Connect to the net with:

                                * connman
                                * or gnome-ppp if you are still on dial-up

                                Editors:

                                * geany
                                * leafpad
                                * Midnight Commander

                                Tools for remastering and creating snapshots of installed system:

                                * iso-snapshot
                                * remaster tools

                                General tools:

                                * bootrepair
                                * codecs installer
                                * Network Assistant
                                * User Manager
                                * ddm-mx – install nvidia drivers

                                Others:

                                * hexchat – gui chat
                                * luckybackup – excellent backup tool. There’s nothing lucky about it!
                                * simple-scan – for scanning documents
                                * transmission-gtk – torrent downloader
                                * wingrid-antix – turn the stacking window managers into tilers.
                                * Xfburn for burning cd/dvd
                                * connectshares-antix for network shares
                                * droopy-antix – an easy way to transfer files over the net.
                                * mirage – image viewer
                                * package-installer – install applications easily and safely
                                * antiX Control Centre – an easy way to do just about anything!
                                * streamtuner2 – listen to streaming radio
                                * cherrytree – note taking application

                                Why not try out our included ‘cli’ apps:

                                * Editors: nano and vim-tiny
                                * Newsreader: newsboat
                                * Chat: irssi
                                * Audio player: mocp
                                * Radio: pmrp
                                * Video player: mpv
                                * Youtube video: ytfzf
                                * Torrent: rtorrent
                                * Cd burner: cdw
                                * Writer: Wordgrinder

                                **NEW**

                                * zzzFM replaces SpaceFM
                                * slimski replaces Slim
                                * ytfzf replaces mps-youtube
                                * Login Manager
                                * runit service manager (runit versions only)
                                * App Select
                                * IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager

                                Cool in-house antiX apps available in the repos:

                                * 1-to-1-voice-antix – Voice chat between two pcs via encrypted mumble
                                * 1-to-1-assistance-antix – Remote access help application
                                * ssh-conduit – Remote resouces via an ssh encypted connection

                                Many thanks to all the contributors, supporters, and antiX enthusiasts.

                                Special thanks to:

                                * all alpha and beta testers
                                * skidoo for slimski and zzzFM
                                * forum members Masinick, ModdIt, skidoo, christophe, caprea, Xecure, olsztyn, PPC, BobC, sybok and anyone else I might have missed for helping out at the forums and/or writing scripts/apps for antiX
                                * linuxdaddy for artwork
                                * AK-47 for the impressive work on the installer’s extended features
                                * fehlix for further improvements to our already wonderful antiX live system.
                                * dave for tireless work keeping the antiX repos going and up to date
                                * peregrine for all the work on the website
                                * BitJam for developing the antiX live system and build system and making antiX what it is today
                                * all translators. Special mention to marcelocripe, Wallon and Robin for rightly insisting on supporting localisation and putting it into practice
                                * Kelly Sikkema (https://unsplash.com/@kellysikkema) for default wallpaper

                                Download here

                                Enjoy!

                                anticapitalista, 31 October 2021, Thessaloniki

                                • This topic was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: Full announcement

                                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                                #69806
                                Member
                                ModdIt

                                  Hi Matt,
                                  the antiX ISO you will download is the complete image of an operating system.
                                  Please check the download is ok, plenty of instructions in forum or net on how to do that
                                  by comparing checksums.
                                  Many failed installations are due to download errors, better check before creating a boot stick
                                  than get frustrated later.

                                  Before an installation and while running live I always do an update of the system then remaster.
                                  In console sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
                                  The menu item for remaster is in the antix menu section, I hope your device can cope with that job ok,
                                  if not just install then update afterwards.
                                  Use a decent not too small capacity USB stick, it can be very useful later, when you have written a snapshot
                                  of your own customised system to the stick. think of it as a backup which will run on both your and many other
                                  computers, if needed you can reinstall with all your changes intact. One of many very useful features of antiX.

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