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August 23, 2021 at 1:34 pm #65475Member
olsztyn
Minor observations after just very basic test so far:
– The same what was noticed by calciumsodium and explained by Xecure directly above.
– Slimski appears to be an older (and much uglier one) test version in comparison to Slimski in antiX 19.4 Grup Yorum (current repository), which is aesthetically nice.
– IMHO (and others may not like this idea) the 19.4 version of Slimski (by the way, is the name ‘Slimski’ decided to indicate the creator – Slim + ski(doo)?), so the 19.4 version of Slimski besides being nice aesthetically it also had the right idea to ask for login (username) and then password. From the security perspective this is way superior than filling in the username automatically and just asking for password. This separation of username and password is the newer trend that appears to have been adopted by sites requiring login (e.g. gmail, etc.).
– Autologin appears to persists for me even after changing to ‘User must log in’ on User Management (either through Control Panel) or through antiX User Management directly. No login screen after reboot). This worked perfectly fine for me on 19.4 version of Slimski.
– On IceWM: If Theme style is changed to Adwaita (including Icon styles) subsequent change of wallpaper does not work for me. Click does not do anything. Changing back to Papyrus allows to change wallpaper (or no wallpaper).
– Memory footprint appears to be good, but more specific benchmark to follow to compare apples to apples…Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersAugust 22, 2021 at 2:40 pm #65422Member
marcelocripe
I’ll try to get all the latest translations on the final iso and update the packages before then.
A: Is there anything we can do to help you?
About the menus, please send me your corrected menu entries of the files in /usr/share/antiX/localisation/en-br
A: I can do this without difficulty and send you all the corrected menus that are in the fluxbox, icewm and jwm folders. But, when antiX gets the updates and $ sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global is applied, the menus will change and will get the texts in the line “Name[en_BR]=” from each “.desktop” file in the folders /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/applications/antix. Would the correct action be to correct all “.desktop” files that are created by the official team and the antiX community?
Please guide me through the private message so that my actions can be as correct as possible so that they can be used in time in antiX 21.I chose not to include gdebi to see what the reaction would be. I’ll put it back in if people insist on it being on the iso.
PPC had spoken out in another thread being totally against my suggestion to include Debinstaller as a replacement for Gdeb. Certainly PPC will not like my insistence, but if the program he created wasn’t really excellent for performing local package installation, I wouldn’t insist, and even worse, I run the risk of getting in trouble with this excellent person that is my friend PPC. Please be aware, PPC, that I have no intention of getting into trouble with you.
The Debinstaller (white color) can install the dependencies that the local package needs if the computer is connected to the Internet. I have tested Gdeb many times, before Xecure created this my-offline-repo-0118.zip. Gdeb only has looks, fails to do what it sets out to do, and does not work like my-offline-repo-0118 or its Debinstaller gift (white in color). My-offline-repo-0118 and Debinstaller are the tools I use the most for installing local packages.Another test with the ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” on a USB stick prepared with Ventoy, booted with Modern Kernel (5.10.57) and the Rox-IceWM desktop, connected to the internet via cable, the RAM consumption:
125 MB displayed in Conky
106 MB displayed in Terminal with the command free -m
108 MB displayed in Task Manager
147 MB displayed in HtopWhen you have no internet connection, these values increase, due to the automatic startup of Connman.
marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)– – – – –
I’ll try to get all the latest translations on the final iso and update the packages before then.
R: Tem alguma coisa que podemos fazer para te ajudar?
About the menus, please send me your corrected menu entries of the files in /usr/share/antiX/localisation/pt-br
R: Eu consigo fazer isso sem dificuldades e te enviar os menus todos corrigidos que estão nas pastas fluxbox, icewm e jwm. Mas, quando o antiX receber as atualizações e o comando $ sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global for aplicado, os menus serão alterados e passarão a receber os textos contidos na linha “Name[pt_BR]=” de cada arquivo “.desktop” que estiverem nas pastas /usr/share/applications e /usr/share/applications/antix. A ação correta seria corrigir todos os arquivo “.desktop” que são criados pela equipe oficial e pela comunidade antiX?
Por favor, oriente-me através da mensagem particular para que as minhas ações possam ser as mais corretas possíveis para poderem ser utilizadas a tempo no antiX 21.I chose not to include gdebi to see what the reaction would be. I’ll put it back in if people insist on it being on the iso.
O PPC havia se manifestado em outro tópico sendo totalmente contra a minha sugestão de incluir o Debinstaller em substituição ao Gdeb. Certamente o PPC não irá gostar da minha insistência, mas se o programa que foi criado por ele não fosse realmente excelente para a execução da instalação de pacotes locais, eu não iria insistir, e pior, ainda corro o risco de me indispor com esta excelente pessoa que é o amigo PPC. Saiba PPC, que eu não tenho intenção alguma de me indispor com a sua pessoa.
O Debinstaller (de cor branca) consegue instalar as dependências que o pacote local necessita caso o computador esteja conectado à internet. Eu testei muitas vezes o Gdeb, antes do Xecure criar o presente my-offline-repo-0118.zip. O Gdeb só possui aparência, não consegue fazer o que se propõe a fazer e não funciona como o my-offline-repo-0118 ou como o seu presente Debinstaller (de cor branca). O my-offline-repo-0118 e o Debinstaller são as ferramentas que mais utilizo para a instalação de pacotes locais.Outro teste com a ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy, inicializado com o Kernel Moderno (5.10.57) e a área de trabalho Rox-IceWM, conectado na internet via cabo, o consumo de memória RAM:
125 MB exibido no Conky
106 MB exibido no Terminal com o comando free -m
108 MB exibido no Gerenciador de Tarefas
147 MB exibido no HtopQuando não possui conexão com a internet, estes valores aumentam, devido a inicialização automática do Connman.
marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)August 22, 2021 at 12:52 pm #65417Membercalciumsodium
start-t icewm-session
Using the start-t icewm-session script, here are my numbers for the boot time comparison on the same computer Toshiba Satelite C655D-S5135:
b2-runit: 34.77 b1-sysVinit: 35.81 difference in boot time: 1.04 sResult: only a 1 s difference in boot time between b2-runit and b1-sysVinit with respect to launching icewm.
August 22, 2021 at 12:08 am #65373Member
marcelocripe
The ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” on a USB stick prepared with Ventoy booted with Rox-IceWM, connected to the internet via cable, RAM consumption:
114 MB displayed in Conky
103 MB displayed in Terminal with command free -m
105 MB displayed in Task Manager
146 MB displayed in HtopPPC, please check the folder /usr/share/locale/en_EN/LC_MESSAGES, I found only 5 translation files with the extension “.mo”, compared to the folder /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES which has 166 translation files with the extension “.mo” and /usr/share/locale/en_BR/LC_MESSAGES which has 190 translation files with the extension “.mo”. I think that this difference of 19 translation files with the extension “.mo” must be missing a lot for antiX localized in en.
I do not know how the “.mo” translation files are managed to be included in antiX ISOs and what we can do to help this important work as it reflects how antiX is perceived in other languages/countries.
One remark about the “Time and Date” or “set_time-and_date”, the program is with all the texts I inserted in Transifex (antix-linux-community-contributions), however there is only one thing that makes me doubt, there is a dash and number “-03” right after the time, I believe it should not be there, or is that correct?
It is another win that we have this program translated.marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)– – – – –
A ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy inicializado com Rox-IceWM, conectado na internet via cabo, o consumo de memória RAM:
114 MB exibido no Conky
103 MB exibido no Terminal com o comando free -m
105 MB exibido no Gerenciador de Tarefas
146 MB exibido no HtopPPC, por favor verifique a pasta /usr/share/locale/pt_PT/LC_MESSAGES, eu encontrei apenas 5 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo”, comparando com a pasta /usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES que possui 166 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo” e /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES que possui 190 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo”. Eu acho que esta diferença de 19 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo” devem fazer muita falta para o antiX localizado em pt.
Eu não sei como é feito o gerenciamento dos arquivos de tradução “.mo” para serem incluídos nas ISOs do antiX e o que podemos fazer para ajudar neste importante trabalho, pois isto reflete de como o antiX é visto em outros idiomas/países.
Um observação sobre o “Data e Hora” ou “set_time-and_date”, o programam está com todos os textos que eu inseri no Transifex (antix-linux-community-contributions), contudo só tem uma coisa que me deixa com dúvida, tem um traço e número “-03” logo após o horário, eu acredito que não deveria estar lá, ou está correto?
É outra vitória termos este programa traduzido.marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)August 21, 2021 at 11:02 pm #65367Member
marcelocripe
Hello everyone.
I managed to download the ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso”, I had no problems downloading it using a download manager program. The tests I did were using the ISO on a USB stick set up with Ventoy. Unfortunately, I will not have the time available to do the amount of testing I would like to do, so I will leave here my general impressions, those that my eyes can easily see.
It was possible to boot normally in pt-BR language, the ISO boot menus are OK, both the first level of choice of language and kernel that will be booted, and the second level menu, both are with the texts that I inserted in Transifex.
After the antiX has booted, I have noticed that the texts in the menus are still out of date with the texts that are available in Transifex. It is the same texts that are in the antiX 19.4 ISO, i.e. the menus that I see in the “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” ISO have texts in “en”, “en-GB” and “en” languages. Please anticapitalist, when building the new ISOs, always consider using the latest files that are available on Transifex (antix-development, antix-linux-community-contributions, if using SpaceFM from ignorantguru). This way, it ensures that the ISO receives the most recently revised texts (texts with better translation adaptation of the texts translated by internet translators, fewer grammatical errors, better understanding of my programs to better adapt the translation, etc.).
I was able to switch between all desktops successfully. The zzzFM file manager opened extremely fast compared to antiX 19.4’s SpaceFM in a test under equivalent conditions.
I went to Control Center > Login > Login Manager (not translated to “Gerenciador de Início de Sessão”), opened the password prompt box and the program opened normally. Same test, trying to open via Menu, antiX, Login Manager (is translated ok to pt-BR), I get an English language message:
“Yad
You need to be root!
Cannot continue.
”
The “Login Manager” program does not start with the menu click, it only starts if it is through the Control Center or through the command in Terminal.I tested slimski’s themes:
The themes that remain in English language only are “ax” and “apartment”.
The “Space” theme is all translated (this is excellent!) and “default” only doesn’t display the text “Username”, maybe due to the limited space, the other texts are translated ok.
One detail, at each theme change, when antiX is started, the theme background image started to take the place of the desktop background image, depending on the desktop, the default background image was replaced by the slimski theme image. On some desktops this did not happen.
The “antiX” theme has a sentence in English (Press F1 to toggle sessions) that I think should not be displayed, the other texts are ok in Brazilian Portuguese.
The themes “antiXIce”, “BlueLines”, “BlueLinesLigth”, “DarkCity”, “PrettyPink” and “SunnyDay” are not translated only the texts “Username” and “Password”, the other texts are ok.The text “% host login”, where is the “%” always displays the text “antix1”, is this correct? Or should it display the username? Or should it display only antiX?
Double-click mouse sensitivity (Suggestion):
In the program “ds-mouse” could you have control of the sensitivity/speed of the double mouse click?Toobar Icon Manager (problem continues):
The list that is displayed in the Toolbar Icon Manager for IceWM (TIM) is not localized to “en-BR”, it only displays the “en” texts that are in the “.desktop” shortcut files. I believe that TIM cannot display the four-letter language texts in the list. For more information, please refer to the topic https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/toolbar-icon-manager-list-for-icewm-is-not-located-for-pt-br/. This means that the shortcut icon texts that are inserted into the Toolbar are displayed in either “en” or “en”, so it does not display the shortcut icons with “en-GB” texts.Personal Menu > Personal Menu Help Video:
Displays the message:
“Streamlight
Livestreamer reported an error. See log for detais
”I have never seen this “Personal Menu Help Video” menu working, what is the purpose of this menu?
I hope everyone can correctly understand my text and my intention is to help that are automatically translated by the internet translator.
Thank you very much.
marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)– – – – –
Olá a todos.
Eu consegui baixar a ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso”, não tive problemas para baixar utilizando um programa gerenciador de transferências. Os testes que eu fiz foram utilizando a ISO em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy. Infelizmente, eu não terei tempo disponível para fazer a quantidade de testes que eu gostaria de fazer, por isso deixarei aqui as minhas impressões gerais, aquelas que os meus olhos conseguem ver facilmente.
Foi possível iniciar normalmente em idioma pt-BR, os menus de inicialização da ISO estão OK, tanto o primeiro nível de escolha do idioma e do kernel que será iniciado, quanto o menu do segundo nível, ambos estão com os textos que eu inseri no Transifex.
Após o antiX inicializar, eu consegui observar que os textos exibidos nos menus permanecem desatualizados em relação aos textos que estão disponíveis no Transifex. São os mesmos textos que estão na ISO do antiX 19.4, ou seja, nos menus que eu vejo na ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” possuem textos em idioma “pt”, “pt-BR” e em “en”. Por favor, anticapitalista, quando for construir as novas ISOs, considere sempre utilizar os arquivos mais recentes que estão disponíveis no Transifex (antix-development, antix-linux-community-contributions, se for utilizar o SpaceFM do ignorantguru). Desta forma, garante que a ISO receba os textos com a revisão mais recente (textos com melhor adaptação da tradução dos textos traduzidos pelos tradutores da internet, menos erros de gramática, melhor compreensão minha dos programas para adaptar melhor a tradução, etc.).
Eu consegui alternar entre todas as áreas de trabalho com sucesso. O gerenciador de arquivos zzzFM abriu extremamente rápido se comparado ao SpaceFM do antiX 19.4 em um teste em condições equivalentes.
Eu acessei o Centro de Controle > Sessão > Login Manager (não está traduzido para “Gerenciador de Início de Sessão”), abriu a caixa de solicitação de senha e o programa abriu normalmente. O mesmo teste, tentando abrir via Menu, antiX, Gerenciador de Início de Sessão (está traduzido ok para pt-BR), eu recebo uma mensagem em idioma inglês:
“Yad
You need to be root!
Cannot continue.
”
O programa “Gerenciador de Início de Sessão” não inicia com o clique no menu, só inicia se for através do Centro de Controle ou através do comando no Terminal.Testei os temas do slimski:
Os temas que permanecem apenas em idioma Inglês são “ax” e “flat”.
O tema “Space” está todo traduzido (isto é excelente!) e “default” só não exibe o texto “Nome de Usuário”, talvez devido ao espaço ser limitado, os demais textos estão traduzidos ok.
Um detalhe, a cada troca de tema, quando é iniciado o antiX, a imagem de fundo do tema passou a ocupar o lugar da imagem de fundo da área de trabalho, dependendo da área de trabalho, a imagem padrão de fundo foi substituída pela imagem do tema do slimski. Em algumas áreas de trabalho isto não aconteceu.
O tema “antiX” possui uma frase em Inglês (Press F1 to toggle sessions) que eu acho que não deveria estar sendo exibida, os demais textos estão ok em Português do Brasil.
Os temas “antiXIce”, “BlueLines”, “BlueLinesLigth”, “DarkCity”, “PrettyPink” e “SunnyDay” só não estão traduzidos os textos “Username” e “Password”, os outros textos estão traduzidos ok.O texto “% host login”, onde está o “%” sempre exibe o texto “antix1”, isto está correto? Ou deveria exibir o nome de usuário? Ou deveria exibir apenas antiX?
Sensibilidade do duplo clique do rato (Sugestão):
No programa “ds-mouse” poderia ter o controle da sensibilidade/velocidade do duplo clique do rato?Toobar Icon Manager (o problema continua):
A lista que é exibida no Gerenciador de Ícones da Barra de Ferramentas para o IceWM (TIM) não está localizada para “pt-BR”, exibe somente os textos em “pt” que estão nos arquivos de atalho “.desktop”. Eu acredito que o TIM não consegue exibir na lista os textos dos idioma de quatro letras. Para obter mais informações, por favor, consulte o tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/toolbar-icon-manager-list-for-icewm-is-not-located-for-pt-br/. Com isso, os textos dos ícones de atalho que são inseridos na Barra de Ferramentas são exibidos em “pt” ou em “en”, portanto, não exibe os ícones de atalho com os textos em “pt-BR”.Menu Pessoal > Personal Menu Help Video:
Exibe a mensagem:
“Streamlight
Livestreamer reported an error. See log for detais
”Eu nunca vi este menu “Personal Menu Help Video” funcionado, qual é o objetivo deste menu?
Eu espero que todos consigam compreender corretamente o meu texto e a minha intenção é de ajudar que são traduzidas automaticamente pelo tradutor da internet.
Muito obrigado.
marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)August 21, 2021 at 7:21 pm #65346Member
Xecure
There is a problem getting to herbstluft from the live boot menus. I will see what happened there.
This line needs to changed to:
desktop "desktop=herbstluftwm " "Herbstluftwm " \
the min-herbstluft is no used anymore, and slimski can only recognize the sessiontype “herbstluftwm”That is the first time that I have seen this message:
Available xsessions have changed
Updating Slimski /etc/slimski.local.confThis is the new change I added to the apt hook so that it correctly updates the slimski login options. It also updates the Other desktop menus, but it already did this before. I just added the extra informative messages “xsessions have changed” and an explanation of what file is edited for slimski’s sessiontypes.
when I tried to install my favorite Kodi addon within Kodi, I saw this error message:
The dependency on script.module.six version 0.0.0 could not be satisfied.If possible, compare the sources between b1 (pre-stable) and b2 (current stable). It is possible that a deb-multimedia repo is missing or something. I will have a look in a bit.
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.August 21, 2021 at 3:52 pm #65331Member
Xecure
There was a small bug in gpm service (sorry for that). It is fixed here.
For some reason, if /etc/default/runit file doesn’t exist, on installed, runsv tries to start to write to the disk for 3 services (). Creating a symlink to /etc/default/runit-antix
sudo ln -s /etc/default/runit-antix /etc/default/runitI don’t see a herbsluftwm desktop option.
There is a problem getting to herbstluft from the live boot menus. I will see what happened there. You can reach herbstluft from the slimski F1 toggle (log out first), or make it appear on the “Other Desktops” menus with the command
sudo /usr/local/lib/desktop-session/desktop-session-update-wm-menus -fWe basically removed the logs (not sure if that is a good idea or not to be honest).
I think we missed a couple though, eg acpid, sshacpid and openssh-server automatically add the runit services to /etc/sv, so nothing else we should do.
logs (at least for acpid on this ISO) require the existence of a user named runit-log from group adm (runit-log:adm). On some devuan posts they stated user “_runit-log” (see the “_” symbol) instead. I think that this user should be created by the runit installer, but it isn’t, so something else needs to create it instead of services expect it to exist.
A log folder can be created for any of the services. If you add this run file:
#!/bin/sh set -e NAME=template LOG="/var/log/runit/$NAME" test -d "$LOG" || mkdir "$LOG" exec chpst svlogd -tt "$LOG"Replacing “NAME=template” with the correct service name, it will work properly and log as root to /var/log/runit/$NAME
If you decide it is a better idea to have logs, then let me know and I will edit the runit-services-antix project.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by Xecure. Reason: Explain better
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.August 21, 2021 at 1:25 pm #65321In reply to: Looking for advice on suitable test setup
MemberKjellinux
For some reason, unknown to me, this thread took an unexpected detour. I’m not looking to get a new and better computer. I have the computers I need right now. In fact, it is not entirely easy to find harware that is low spec enough to test the lower limits for what can still run a Linux distribution. I can upgrade my test rig, an Acer Aspire 3100 with 512 MB RAM whenever I wish. I already have the RAM modules needed to upgrade to 1, 2 and 4 GB (maximum). I also have a 120 GB SSD waiting. Eventually those uprgrades will be made, but right now, doing so would defeat the purpose of my testing. In fact, I have a machine incoming that’s even older and lower specs.
I managed to solve the swap partition problem. I realised that by reversing the order of things, I could create a bootable USB first (using whatever utility) and after that was finished, I used GParted to shrink the main partition and create a swap partition. Having a swap partition made quite some difference. I’m currently in the process of testing base and full, 32 and 64 bit to see how they perform in comparison with other distributions that I have alredy tested. When I’m done with that, I will start looking into persistence.
August 20, 2021 at 11:30 pm #65295In reply to: Looking for advice on suitable test setup
Moderator
christophe
@anticapitalista:
It’s on the download page, and speaks of when a person may only have Windows.Below is a list of mirrors available for downloading the antiX ISO images. These can be written and booted live from a cd,frugal install via hdd, from usb, etc. To make the most of using the antiX live system, particularly from a usb, it is recommended to use the antiX/MX live usb maker or Rufus if using Windows to make the CD. If either of these do not work for you, it is possible to use other image writing tools. Keep in mind that in most cases the way the image writer makes the live usb leaves the live boot media/image read only and therefor cannot make use of all the antiX live usb features.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
August 20, 2021 at 6:57 pm #65277Member
marcelocripe
Zeh, you are absolutely right, you have noted very well, these texts are not available in the Trasnifex live-bootloader file, as well as the F1 key help texts which are very important, are also not available for translation. There is a lot of work to be done to get antiX translated.
Just a reminder that some programs listed in the https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/list-of-antix-programs-that-are-yet-to-be-translated/ topic list have been provided with the translation feature in the official anti-capitalist transifex (antix-development) or are in the antix-linux-community-contributions (antix-contribs). I expect that all recently translated files will be used in antiX updates and upcoming ISOs.
marcelocripe
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Zeh, você tem toda a razão, você observou muito bem, estes textos não estão disponíveis no arquivo live-bootloader do Trasnifex, bem como os textos de ajuda da tecla F1 que são importantíssimos, também não estão disponíveis para a tradução. Existe muito trabalho a ser feito para o antiX ser traduzido.
Só lembrando que alguns programas relacionados na lista do tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/list-of-antix-programs-that-are-yet-to-be-translated/ foram contemplados com o recurso de tradução no transifex oficial do anticapitalista (antix-development) ou estão no antix-linux-community-contributions (antix-contribs). Eu espero que todos os arquivos traduzidos, recentemente, sejam utilizados nas atualizações do antiX e nas próximas ISOs.
marcelocripe
August 20, 2021 at 12:30 pm #65250Topic: Xorg fail if not root
in forum New Users and General QuestionsMemberiquit
I downloaded both antiX-19.4_x64-core.iso and antiX-19.4_386-net.iso .
Then boot them live without persistence, install xorg and fluxbox using cli-aptiX.
Immediately after installation, I login as demo and run startx.
x64-core works fine but 386-net does not, is this a known problem?
If I login as root, both work fine.
Tried install recommended xorg-legacy-suid-wrapper (can’t recall exact package name) but it still fail.
What do I need to get startx to work in 386-net as non-root?August 20, 2021 at 2:13 am #65238In reply to: Looking for advice on suitable test setup
MemberKjellinux
After a week of watching YouTube videos, reading forum posts and various other material, I started testing.
At first, I used GParted to format a number of USB sticks with a DOS partition table, an 11GB main partition (ext4) with the boot flag set and a 2GB linux-swap with swapon activated.
Next, I used my Dell Latitude D610 (with 2GB RAM) running Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon to download and burn antiX 19.4 base to a CD. Since the D610 was powered up anyway, I booted antiX 19.4 base from the CD. It booted without problems and ran as well as could be expected with a 15-ish year old computer. Before turning off the D610, I also downloaded antiX 19.4 full and used the USB Image Writer included in Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon to create a bootable USB stick with antiX 19.4 full. The USB Image Writer overwrote the preformatted partitions, so I lost the 2GB swap partition.
After this, I switched over to my test rig, the Acer Aspire 3100 with 512 MB RAM. First I booted antiX 19.4 base from the CD. It booted and ran without problems. One strange thing was that according to the Task Manager, it idled at a RAM usage of 86 MB, while at the same time the RAM usage was 101 MB according to Conky. Next I booted antiX 19.4 full from the USB stick. As expected, it booted faster from the USB stick than from the CD. Most programs ran without problems, but when I opened the web browser (that turned out to be Firefox on full, as opposed to SeaMonkey on base), the system came to a halt, despite more than 100 MB unused RAM. I suspect it would have worked better with a Swap partition.
As a last attempt to get up and running with a Swap partition, I switched to my Dell Optiplex 990 running Windows 10. Here I downloaded antiX 19.4 base and used Rufus (as recommended on the antiX home page) to create a bootable USB stick. Much to my disappointment, Rufus also overwrote my preconfigured partitions.
This is about as far as I have come by now. During my testing of various versions of Puppy Linux, I was taught to create bootable USB sticks with Swap partition “manually” by extracting the content of the .iso file and copying all the files to the main partition of the preconfigured USB stick. Is this the way to go with antiX as well, or is there a better and more “correct” method?
I would like to find a solution to this problem before I start looking into persistence, so that I can compare test results with other distributions that I have tested.
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August 19, 2021 at 10:37 am #65189Anonymous
Downloaded the B1-runit iso, both kernels worked great on this machine on live dvd.
installed to the hard drive and boots real fast, updated to newer 5.10.57 kernel.
Liked the live log in the installer and new options. great work.
this is a shot of inxi -Fxz with the quiescent-medium themeon the menu
applications->preferences->alternatives configurator
is showing up twice one is gksu and the second isn’t according
to app-select can be confusing.August 12, 2021 at 9:47 pm #64778In reply to: Looking for advice on suitable test setup
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marcelocripe
Hello Kjellinux,
Welcome to the antiX Linux forum.
I don’t know how to write in English language and I send you my texts translated by internet translator, I hope you can understand everything.
Now you have specified what you really need information about.
What I need at this stage is very simple and basic answers to some very basic questions.
Seaken64 and Mr. Brian have posted the topics that are of extreme importance for all newcomers to antiX, regardless of the level of knowledge about GNU/Linux.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie and How-to install applications – 2020 version.
Given the equipment described in my original post (Acer Aspire 3100 with 512MB RAM and a 16GB USB stick), what would be the best version of antiX to try first?
About your configuration, I found this information about your Acer Aspire 3100, if it is possible, try to increase your RAM to at least 1GB, this will help you to browse the internet with the graphical web browsers, such as Firefox. If it is not possible to increase the memory, the options will be to use Links2 (available in antiX) or Pale Moon (you have to install it if you want to use it).
I recommend you try the 32 bit Full ISO, as the full ISO comes packed with both GUI and CLI options, the CLI options are better for computers with low RAM and single core processor. Start antiX with one of the desktop options that has mini or minimal in its name (fluxbox, or JWM, or IceWM), prefer the one that consumes less RAM. To choose the desktop from the ISO options menu, press the F6 key and select one of several options named mini or minimal, then press the Enter key. If you do not have skills with the Rox Filer file manager, use the SpaceFM that is available with antiX from Menu > Applications > System > SpaceFM. The Base ISO, in my opinion, is for those who already know the antiX operating system and for those who know exactly what they need and how to prepare the system to be ready for use, the Full ISO brings everything any user needs in an operating system and has much more.
If directly to a USB stick, which program is best to use on Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon and Windows 10 respectively?
If preparing the USB stick on Linux Mint 19.3, use AppImage from Live USB Maker is the best program to prepare a USB stick to receive antiX. If it is on Windows 10, you can use Rufus, Ventoy or another program of your choice that can boot on your Acer Aspire 3100.
Are there any easy to follow step by step instructions for how to do this?
Besides the topics mentioned above, you can read a lot in the antiX wiki and in the FAQ online or consult the FAQ contained in the antiX ISO Help.
I hope this information can be helpful.
marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)– – – – –
Olá Kjellinux,
Seja bem-vindo ao fórum do antiX Linux.
Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e te envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet, eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo.
Agora você especificou o que você realmente necessita de informação.
What I need at this stage is very simple and basic answers to some very basic questions.
O Seaken64 e o sr. Brian postaram os tópicos que são de extrema importância para todos os recém chegados no antiX, independentemente do nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie e How-to install applications – 2020 version.
Given the equipment described in my original post (Acer Aspire 3100 with 512MB RAM and a 16GB USB stick), what would be the best version of antiX to try first?
Sobre a sua configuração, eu encontrei estas informações sobre o seu Acer Aspire 3100, se for possível, tente aumentar a sua memória RAM para pelo menos 1 GB, isso te ajudará a navegar na internet com os navegadores de internet gráficos, como por exemplo, o Firefox. Caso não seja possível aumentar a memória, as opções serão serão utilizar o Links2 (disponível no antiX) ou o Pale Moon (tem que ser instalado caso queira utilizá-lo).
Eu recomendo você testar a ISO Full de 32 bits, pois a ISO full vem repleta de soluções (programas aplicativos) com interface gráfica do usuário – GUI e com opções com interface de linha de comando – CLI (em modo texto), as opções CLI são melhores para computadores com pouca memória RAM e processador com apenas um núcleo. Prefira inicializar o antiX com uma das opções de área de trabalho que tenha em seu nome mini ou minimal (Fluxbox, ou JWM, ou IceWM), prefira a que consumir menos memória RAM. Para escolher a área de trabalho no menu de opções da ISO, pressione a tecla F6 e selecione uma das várias opções com o nome mini ou minimal, pressione a tecla Enter. Se você não possui habilidades com o gerenciador de arquivos Rox Filer, utilize o SpaceFM que vem disponível com o antiX, no Menu > Aplicações > Sistema > SpaceFM. A ISO Base, na minha opinião, é para quem já conhece o sistema operacional antiX e para quem sabe exatamente o que precisa e como preparar o sistema para ficar pronto para uso, a ISO Full trás tudo que qualquer usuário precisa em um sistema operacional e possui muito mais.
If directly to a USB stick, which program is best to use on Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon and Windows 10 respectively?
Se for preparar o dispositivo USB no Linux Mint 19.3, utilize o AppImage do Live USB Maker é o melhor programa para preparar um dispositivo USB para receber o antiX. Se for no Windows 10, você pode utilizar o Rufus, Ventoy ou outro programa de sua preferência que consiga inicializar no seu Acer Aspire 3100.
Are there any easy to follow step by step instructions for how to do this?
Além dos tópicos citados anteriormente, você pode ler bastante no antiX wiki e no FAQ online ou consultar o FAQ contido na Ajuda da ISO do antiX.
Eu espero que estas informações possam ser úteis.
marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)August 11, 2021 at 7:28 pm #64741In reply to: Looking for advice on suitable test setup
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Brian Masinick
Thank you all for your input. I think you overrate my Linux skills though. What I need at this stage is very simple and basic answers to some very basic questions.
Given the equipment described in my original post (Acer Aspire 3100 with 512MB RAM and a 16GB USB stick), what would be the best version of antiX to try first?
Should I burn the .iso file to a CD first and then install to the USB stick, or should I install directly to the USB stick?
If directly to a USB stick, should I format the USB stick in advance, and if so, how?
If directly to a USB stick, which program is best to use on Linux Mint 19.3 Cinnamon and Windows 10 respectively?
What configurations and settings should I do on first boot?
Are there any easy to follow step by step instructions for how to do this?I will eventually upgrade the test rig with more RAM (1GB, 2GB and 4GB) and an SSD, but for the purpose of my testing, I want to keep the test rig as “crappy” as possible for now. After all, the purpose of my testing is to find out just how old and crappy hardware can be, while still good enough to be given a second life using lightweight Linux distributions. Eventually I will also start installing to hard drive, but for now I want to stick with USBs to get comparable test results.
I like and appreciate your thought process – particularly helping us evaluate the functionality of “old, crappy hardware” with antiX. Great idea!
How can we help make this exercise easier for you? What areas are challenging or difficult to understand and use? Maybe there is an opportunity for us to improve our documentation and instructions. Your comments would also be quite valuable here, so please explain what we can improve in that area, maybe with a step by step set of instructions?
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Topic: Xorg fail if not root
I downloaded both antiX-19.4_x64-core.iso and antiX-19.4_386-net.iso .
Then boot them live without persistence, install xorg and fluxbox using cli-aptiX.
Immediately after installation, I login as demo and run startx.
x64-core works fine but 386-net does not, is this a known problem?
If I login as root, both work fine.
Tried install recommended xorg-legacy-suid-wrapper (can’t recall exact package name) but it still fail.
What do I need to get startx to work in 386-net as non-root?