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[Member sybok]

Hello, welcome and good luck.

You may also provide more information about the old PC and what have you already tried.

Usually, one gets to BIOS by repeatedly pressing one of the keys F1, F2, Delete etc. (depending on the PC manufacturer and model) immediately after turning the PC on.
One can set boot (order of) preference there.
If the PC is too old and does not support booting from USB, the logical choice is to burn a DVD.

Since the PC is not equipped with a 64-bit processor and it is old, you should probably start with the older antiX 17.4.1 (supported until 2022), ‘antiX-17.4.1_386-full.iso’.
If you go to https://antixlinux.com/download, select the closest mirror and click the link, it will show you antiX 19-series.
Click the “Parent Directory” on the top of the page and select the latest antiX (currently 17.4 or if only a single antiX 17 directory available/present, then use this one).
Download the file ‘antiX-17.4.1_386-full.iso’.
If it does not work, search the forum; some people have created an ISO with older PCs in mind.

Had an old Dell Inspiron B130 laptop which developed hard drive problems and would not boot XP. Lost the recovery discs. Never had any experience with Linux but tried to boot Puppy from a flash drive and run it in RAM. Was able to run it OK but had problems with the WIFI dropping out after spending some time just to get it connected. That gave me enough confidence to try Antix and had no problems so I spent 9 bucks to double my memory to 2000MB. Since I am 81 years old I thought I might have problems getting used to a new OS. But am happy with how it runs as I kept the and it’s primary use was web surfing and Email.

I also have an 20 some year old PC as a spare in my den that has an early version of XP on it but it does have a 64 bit processor. . Was thinking of turning it into a dual boot system but I can’t set it up to boot off the USB port. Any suggestions? I was never an IT person. Retired from the Navy as a shipfitter, had my own plumbing business, and retired again from a large school district as maintenance supervisor. Only learned enough about computers to keep someone younger to take my job.

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[Member Xecure]

Hello.

dfpalacioh wrote:

I’m trying to install antiX again, but in the final step it appears this message: “Sorry, unable to set user password”.

I understand you are installing directly to your hard drive from a DVD/USB made with the official antiX 19.3 full i386 ISO and not a personal snapshot. When booted on the live system, using the Installer, after a certain point the error “Unable to set user password” pops up and doesn’t let you continue? Is this correct? Or does this error occur after installing and rebooting?

I understand this is a reinstallation. Are root (/) and home (/home) partitions separate or are you only using one partition to host everything? Are you keeping your home partition as is or are you replacing it completely?

I think these questions haven’t been answered, and probably may help resolve this better.

Also, if you have already solved your problem (and this post is no longer needed), for your nvidia graphics card it is better you install a legacy nvidia driver, as described in this post.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/nvidia-geforce-6800-antix-19-2-32bit/#post-45180

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

Just a post to say Hi!

Not used Antix, or GNU/Linux for many years, used to post under the same name on the old forums.

Browsing the mags in the supermarket the other day decided to buy a copy of LinuxFormat and give it a go again. Decided the Mint offering on the DVD wasn’t that good and remembered Antix from a long time ago.

Have downloaded and burnt the Antix iso to DVD and created a bootable USB. All is working well aside from the wlan0 interface and mounting the Windows partition isn’t being persistent so might post about that if I can’t fix it.

[Member sybok]

Hi, few tips:
1) Checksum your downloaded ISO-file (e.g. ‘sha256sum <ISO file>’ or ‘md5sum <ISO file>’) used to create the live medium and compare with the provided in the download page/mirror.
If 1) OK, then
2) see similar post this post dealing with the same issue
and if the problem still persists
3) provide more information inxi -Fxz when booted into the live-media
4) check for corruption of (bad blocks on) the Seagate drive and ask the system to ignore them, see e.g. this link.

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I’m trying to install antiX again, but in the final step it appears this message: “Sorry, unable to set user password”.

Previously, I had a working antiX on my computer. I was messing around with the settings of NVIDIA and I rebooted the machine. It booted to a grub error screen. I found a solution for the grub error, but later there was a login error. I looked further in the partition and, somehow, the passwd file was missing. I could not find a way to fix that problem, so I decided to re-install antiX. But now I always get the error message that I have previously mentioned.

I have tried a couple of solutions that I found. I checked if the iso that I downloaded was corrupted, but the md5sum is fine. I tried to set the password from the terminal but I got a “bad message” error.

[Member PDP-8]

@olzstyn
Sorry about my breathy prose. 🙂 I tend to ramble…

What I did was DD (from AntiX in fact) the 9.1 release iso. Sure it booted ok, but I thought it better to burn another stick using the flash-knoppix tool as my primary master to build upon – since instead of being a iso9660 clone on a stick, the flash tool now using non-cd type filesystem when it created the new one. Make any changes you want and remaster, or don’t make any at all – in my case where I simply wanted to have a read-only master using reiserfs et al rather than iso9660.

I’m probably confusing things here, heh.

And for sure, Knoppix is a whole different animal than Antix! Apples and Oranges, so I use both for different use cases, and not replacements. I learn things from other distros and bring those learnings to each – for instance had I not had TinyCore experience prior to AntiX, I’d have been *totally* lost when it came to deciphering the multiple homefs and rootfs options! When I saw how AntiX handled it, I was absolutely blown away!

Did you know this:
So Klaus absolutely can’t stand a laptop trackpad getting in the way of typing, and frequently one find that “tapping” doesn’t work at all! Here’s how to fix:

In a terminal:

synclient TapButton1=1
synclient VertEdgeScroll=1
synclient HorizEdgeScroll=1

If you want to make that permanent (provided you are running with persistence) add those lines you need to

/etc/X11/Xsession.d/45knoppix

Just having fun with it..

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[Anonymous]

Hey, that’s a good writeup!

I don’t understand why the system always by default runs as root

Because the intended audience is puppians, right?
its bootsplash does mention that both root//root and puppy//puppy default logins are available

ability to squash the system down to a 300-350mb ISO is incredibly impressive

I don’t recall whether DebianDog omits MANPAGES (and pkg copyright/changelogs) from the base image.
/usr/share/man/
/usr/share/doc/
If so, that represents a blatant disregard toward the licenses of the shipped content as well as a disservice to the end users. Also, DEVX (packed separately)… so, it is misleadingly “impressive” to ship a small ISO but saddle the user with “all that” necessarily loaded into RAM in order to maintain the system.

( sounding a bit self-righteous here, but I’m just calling attention to sneakypete practices )

I tried out BusterDog today, a DebianDog respin that is built to look and act like Puppy Linux. BusterDog advertises the use of the antiX no-systemd setup with elogind, which is what got my attention. I believe that skidoo was the first one to mention it here on the forums a few weeks ago, and after seeing skidoo’s mention I had made a mental note to myself to give it a spin.

The DebianDog homepage is here: https://debiandog.github.io/doglinux/, and the BusterDog github page for downloading ISO’s is here: https://github.com/DebianDog/BusterDog

The download is impressive, only 302mb for a 32-bit ISO and 345mb for a 64-bit ISO. Similar in size to the recent Puppy Linux BionicPup variant.

Some random thoughts: It appears to me that the default boot option is to boot with persistence. The default install option is to do a frugal install, or there is a “full install” option to do a full install to the hard drive. I did not select the persistence option, but it asked me if I wanted to set up persistence when I was shutting down, so persistence seems to be always on the table. Some of the persistence options appeared to include saving to a file on a disk without frugal install – I’ll have to explore that more later. To you Puppy linux fans, this is probably old hat – for me this is all new.

Performance: Not so great. Boot time was a bit long at close to 45 seconds. I set up the 64-bit version on a system with just 1gb of ram, thinking that this is a minimalist distro, but it could not do much on 1gb. The installed browser is palemoon, which ate up all the memory after I visited my second webpage and froze the system. After a hard reset I decided to start using a ram buffer-clearing trick to keep the system above 200mb, by running ‘sync; echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches’ repeatedly as root. With that, I was able to visit different sites, usually keeping my available memory in the range of 250mb. I was able to play some youtube videos with palemoon.

I decided to try the epiphany browser, which is easy to install from BusterDog’s Debian buster repos. Unfortunately epiphany would not run without almost immediately crashing, and was also eating up all the ram. I’ve had trouble trying out epiphany from the Debian repos recently – it could be that the 64-bit version is not as stable as the 32-bit version that other commenters have been raving about recently.

Next I tried installing the Surf browser from the Debian repos, and that worked sort of ok as long as I kept clearing the ram buffer. A big problem I’m seeing is that running surf causes the CPU to run at 100%. Possibly if I built surf from git instead of using the Debian download it would work better.
Surf would not play videos, the browser did not seem to have any codecs. I downloaded the git version of youtube-dl and used surf to find videos and used mpv instances to stream them. mpv was very gentle on the system, only using about 50mb at a time to stream youtube videos.

There’s a lot going on under the hood with this respin that I don’t understand, but that I’m sure that people like skidoo understand very well. I think this is a distro that’s worth playing around with and exploring further.

Pro’s and Con’s after a brief initial look:
Cons: I was looking for a distro that might run better on low resource equipment than antiX, but in that regard I was disappointed. It appears to require at least 2gb of ram to run in any normal fashion without constantly reclaiming memory from the buffer, which is not a stable way to run a system. And its live USB features look very interesting, but a bit primitive compared to antiX’s on first glance. I would like to say that this would make a good Live USB distro, but my initial experience indicates that it would give an inferior live usb experience compared to antiX. And I don’t understand why the system always runs as root – it’s not the way I like to run any system, not even a live usb system.

Pro’s: There’s a lot of things this distro does well, and the ability to squash the system down to a 300-350mb ISO is incredibly impressive, especially considering the large number of programs that are installed by default, some of which are large downloads in their own right. Once it is running it pushes the entire system into ram by default, which makes for a very fast desktop. Networking and sound worked well out of the box, and the installed programs that I tried all seemed to do their jobs. I’ll explore it further with a frugal install and see if there’s anything that it does better than antiX where I can find some kind of a niche use for it.

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[Member PDP-8]

Re: performance if you are booting from flash:

If you download and burn the release iso to flash yourself, and use it live, remember that you are basically running an iso-hybrid using the CD/DVD iso9660 format (optimized for physical media) on the stick.

What I normally do is use the “Flash-Knoppix” utility to create *another* master, because this time it lays down a system on flash/usb that may perform better in this instance since it is not using the iso9660 format anymore. So I’ll use the downloaded iso to burn physical dvd’s, but for flash, I boot and then use the flash-util as my working “master” for usb sticks where I have made no changes.

Typically I’ll just use flash-knoppix to burn something with changes i’ve made, or simply do the “read only like a cd” – yet it’s no longer iso9660 when using that utility.

I *did* notice a difference on some machines that balked at booting, or booted weirdly/slowly, but once I used the authors flash-knoppix util to create *another* stick, things definitely perked up!

It makes me wonder how many problems have arisen due to not knowing if the user was using the downloaded release iso as the sole live system, OR actually used the distro’s own on-oard utility to burn a stick with? Ie, maybe there are things where helpful users are simply not on the same page if frustrations/differences that shouldn’t be there set in when one is running a usb stick that looks like an iso-hybrid iso9660 CD rather than a stick flashed and partitioned with ext filesystems (or in this case Reiserfs) etc etc.

Anyway, the usual caveats apply too if things are running dog-slow on old hardware: Use the cheat codes “no-xxxx” and see if things improve. (see the latest cheatcode text file)

Some favorites are removing compositing
nocomposite
maybe even
no3d

All the way to using Xvesa instead of Xorg, that kind of thing.

Once one finds the magic no-xxx combos for a particular piece of hardware, remaster it again with flash-knoppix as a master for that old 256mb heirloom in the closet. Or obviously quicker – AntiX !

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So the public release of Knoppix 9.1 is on the mirrors now. I found it interesting that Klaus is now using Busybox init.

Earlier releases saw Knoppix go through the normal SysV init, to Systemd for a few years, then with 8.6 back to SysV, and now with the 9.x series, Busybox init. I guess it must be easier to maintain for his needs.

Knoppix is well known as the swiss-army knife, so I won’t go into any major review here.

A few standard things to keep in mind:
1) Being larger than 4gb, if you download it, it needs to be on a filesystem that can handle files larger than 4gb! If you do fat32, you’ll truncate it. 🙂

2) Being a mix of Debian stable, testing, and experimental, to try and boot on the widest majority of machines – along with boot cheatcodes if necessary – means that if you try and do wholesale update/upgrades of the entire system, you are likely to bork it and you get to keep all the pieces.

The norm is to make small-scale upgrades/additions if necessary. More of a handy tool, rather than a rolling-release distro.

A new addition to the remastering utility is to make a much smaller version lacking things like Libre-Office and other things if you want a small(er) environment than normal.

I’m glad Klaus is still doing interesting things with it, like trying the busybox init with the latest. To be sure – this is NOT a comparison with AntiX – that’s apples and oranges.

[Member marcelocripe]

Hello dear colleagues,

Unfortunately I will not be able to share all the experiences with the ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”, but when it is possible to register I will bring up this topic.

On 27-02-2021, I managed to revive another computer (Motherboard ECS 865PE-A rev 1.2 15-H70-01120, GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x Video Card, Pentium 4 Processor and 1GB DDR RAM) the ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”. I will try to summarize the test steps:

I had available a pendrive prepared with the windy that contained the ISOs antiX 19.3 full 32 bits, antiX 19.3 full 64 bits and antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bits Base, the balenaEtcher Portable, another computer with Windows installed, another 2 GB pendrive and unfortunately I didn’t have a brush to do the cleaning.

https://ibb.co/qxBjK0t
https://ibb.co/GpGP19h

Ventoy was unable to initialize the three ISOs on the ECS 865PE-A rev 1.2 Motherboard.

On the Windows computer, I prepared the second pendrive with the balenaEtcher Portable and the ISO antiX 19.3 full 64 bits, initialized correctly and when the antiX options menu loaded, a message was displayed stating that the operating system is 64 bits and incompatible with the 32-bit device.

I prepared the second USB stick again with the balenaEtcher Portable and ISO antiX 19.3 full 32 bits, initialized correctly, made the selections in the antiX options menu, the video loaded normally and performed the installation process on the HD. When I restarted the computer, unfortunately I got the message from the image below:

https://ibb.co/xCDWZh0

I tried to use the “Boot Repair” tool, but it didn’t start in graphical mode, remaining what is shown in the image above.

I prepared the second USB stick again with the balenaEtcher Portable and the ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”, initialized correctly, made the selections in the antiX options menu, started in normal video mode, the video loaded normally and performed the installation process on the HD. When I restarted the computer, the video loaded normally.

Prior to the antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32-bit Base update:

https://ibb.co/chv4WXh
https://ibb.co/k9B9L6s

After updating the antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bit Base (I confirmed with “Y” on everything that was offered to be updated):

https://ibb.co/mSvhhzM

When I restarted the computer, unfortunately I got the message from the image below when trying to run the $ command
startx:

https://ibb.co/pb1K8Ds

Second attempt to install the ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”, initialized correctly, made the selections in the antiX options menu, started in secure video mode, the video loaded normally and performed the installation process in HD. When I restarted the computer, the video loaded normally.

Prior to the antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32-bit Base update:

https://ibb.co/W51CQHp

After updating the antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bit Base (this time I didn’t confirm everything that was offered to be updated, I answered “N”):

https://ibb.co/NSmVqdj
https://ibb.co/CBzFstD

I restarted the computer and the graphics mode loaded normally.

All the data I was able to copy from the terminal is in the file “Motherboard 865PE-A rev 1.2 15-H70-01120 with antiX 19 Legacy 32 bits 27-02-2021.txt”. I have included in this file, some texts translated by the English language internet translator to facilitate the localization of the steps for non-Portuguese speakers.

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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Olá caros colegas,

Infelizmente eu não conseguirei compartilhar todas as experiências com a ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”, mas quando for possível registrar eu trarei neste tópico.

No dia 27-02-2021, eu consegui reviver mais um computador (Placa-mãe ECS 865PE-A rev 1.2 15-H70-01120, Placa de Vídeo GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x, Processador Pentium 4 e 1GB de Memória RAM DDR) com a ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”. Eu vou tentar resumir as etapas dos testes:

Eu tinha disponível um pendrive preparado com o ventoy que continha as ISOs antiX 19.3 full 32 bits, antiX 19.3 full 64 bits e antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bits Base, o balenaEtcher Portátil, um outro computador com Windows instalado, um outro pendrive de 2 GB e infelizmente eu não tinha um pincel para fazer a limpeza.

https://ibb.co/qxBjK0t
https://ibb.co/GpGP19h

O ventoy não conseguiu inicializar as três ISOs na Placa-mãe ECS 865PE-A rev 1.2.

No computador com Windows, preparei o segundo pendrive com o balenaEtcher Portátil e a ISO antiX 19.3 full 64 bits, inicializou corretamente e quando o menu de opções do antiX carregou, foi exibido uma mensagem informando que o sistema operacional é 64 bits e incompatível com o dispositivo de 32 bits.

Preparei novamente o segundo pendrive com o balenaEtcher Portátil e a ISO antiX 19.3 full 32 bits, inicializou corretamente, fiz as seleções no menu de opções do antiX, o vídeo carregou normalmente e realizei o processo de instalação no HD. Quando reiniciei o computador, infelizmente obtive a mensagem da imagem abaixo:

https://ibb.co/xCDWZh0

Eu tentei utilizar a ferramenta “Reparador de Inicialização”/”Boot Repair”, mas não inicializou em modo gráfico, permanecendo o que é exibido na imagem acima.

Preparei novamente o segundo pendrive com o balenaEtcher Portátil e a ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”, inicializou corretamente, fiz as seleções no menu de opções do antiX, iniciei no modo de vídeo normal, o vídeo carregou normalmente e realizei o processo de instalação no HD. Quando reiniciei o computador, o vídeo carregou normalmente.

Antes da atualização do antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bits Base:

https://ibb.co/chv4WXh
https://ibb.co/k9B9L6s

Após a atualização do antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bits Base (eu confirmei com “Y” em tudo que foi oferecido para ser atualizado):

https://ibb.co/mSvhhzM

Quando reiniciei o computador, infelizmente obtive a mensagem da imagem abaixo ao tentar executar o comando $
startx:

https://ibb.co/pb1K8Ds

Segunda tentativa de instalação da ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso”, inicializou corretamente, fiz as seleções no menu de opções do antiX, iniciei no modo de vídeo seguro, o vídeo carregou normalmente e realizei o processo de instalação no HD. Quando reiniciei o computador, o vídeo carregou normalmente.

Antes da atualização do antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bits Base:

https://ibb.co/W51CQHp

Após a atualização do antiX 19 Legacy Bet2 32 bits Base (desta vez eu não confirmei tudo que foi oferecido para ser atualizado, respondi “N”):

https://ibb.co/NSmVqdj
https://ibb.co/CBzFstD

Reiniciei o computador e o modo gráfico carregou normalmente.

Todos os dados que eu consegui copiar do terminal estão no arquivo “Placa-mae 865PE-A rev 1.2 15-H70-01120 com o antiX 19 Legacy 32 bits 27-02-2021.txt”. Eu incluí neste arquivo, alguns textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet em idioma inglês para facilitar a localização das etapas para a pessoas não falantes do idioma português.

marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)

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[Member Xecure]

Welcome.

Only try i386 (32 bits) antiX versions. If you can boot from a USB, you can start with 17.4.1 FULL version. If you can only boot from CD, use the BASE version instead. What you need to test is if you can boot to a graphical interface with normal boot (or safe video mode if normal boot option doesnt work). If you can boot live to GUI on antiX 17.4.1, you can then test a different ISO with antiX 19.3 (base or full) and see if you can boot to a graphical interface with it.

If you have less than 100MBs of RAM, you should not use any of the antiX editions with graphical interfaces and instead use the CORE edition, and stick to cli applications.

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

[Anonymous]

htop also shows 66-boot -m as pid 1 running
also this is a fresh install and hasn’t been updated at all from the
19.3-runit-32-bit full iso and is on a p-4 hp zv-5000 laptop.

[Anonymous]

tried the updated script on a p-4 3ghz with 512mb ram and builds and reboots with
no errors then stops as anticapitalista says, attached a shot of where it stops on the machine.
not sue if it matters … I ran the script as sudo from / directory using antiX-19.3-runit-full
32-bit iso install. It also says

random: crng init done

after a minute and I can log in as root to root@none