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  • #54379
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    Xecure

      Sorry to but in in the discussion.

      The PLoP you mentioned, is it the program on this site https://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/index.html?

      I was hoping for @rokytnji to explain it, as he has waaaay more experience than me using it, and may know of other uses for plop.

      Plop is a boot manager (as far a I know, please correct me), and it is useless for making a live USB with a antiX linux ISO. It use to be good for placing on a CD/floppy and using it for booting to/from USB when this option was not available from the BIOS, but now with antiX’ advance Boot menus and with the from= boot parameter, antiX live boot can now replace the need of plop (when booting from CD is possible), as we have seen on different cases in the forum.

      Forget about plop.

      Adding more info to olsztyn’s post.
      You can do all this with only 1 USB if you have at least 2GBs of RAM available.
      Use toram boot parameter in the boot menu of the live USB (you made with rufus or with whatever other Windows program), wait for antiX to load to ram and then to boot completely, and then use live USB maker to clone the live system in RAM to the same USB (made with rufus or with whatever program). I have done this a few times in the past, so I know it works.

      antiX Live system enthusiast.
      General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

      #54378
      Member
      olsztyn

        Does it work? (I have no way to test this process today, I would need to have another pendrive available)

        1 Prepare the first bootable USB stick with a program that works on Windows and that works on computer startup.
        2 Boot the computer with the first bootable flash drive.
        3 After antiX starts, connect the second USB stick to be prepared with Live USB Maker.
        4 Open the Live USB Maker program, select the second flash drive, locate the antiX ISO that was downloaded in Windows to prepare the second flash bootable with antiX.
        5 Select “Full Mode – Recordable LiveUSB”

        This process seems to be very complicated for those who are leaving Windows and are arriving in antiX, especially for those who arrived here due to the possibility of having persistence through the bootable USB stick with antiX.

        I am not clear if this Marcello’s question has been answered so please allow me to add my two cents:

        1. This process works and I had been using this process in the past.
        2. If booting antiX ISO from DVD drive you obviously do not need two USB sticks. After booting from DVD you can create antiX Live USB on the one USB drive you have. As I was using this process some time ago I am not quite sure it is still the case though…

        I think this would be the simplest for users not quite versed in Linux tools and crypto speak.

        One news to me (apparently I fail to keep current on antiX documentation) is that Live USB Maker is available as appimage, which means you could start it on any Linux instance, even such as typical recovery boot CDs, such as GParted or Parted Magic. In such case either such tools can be booted and Live USB Maker started to create antiX Live on USB stick. The question to resolve however how in practice you address the antiX installation ISO location in such scenario. This in my opinion makes the use of Live USB Maker appimage on another Linux distro more complex than it seems at the first glance…
        Just my two cents…

        Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
        https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

        #54373
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        Tardisusers213

          I put the DVD of your iso into the pc and it installed perfectly using safe video mode and now boots into the OS with no issues.Seems to be running faster than what it was on windows XP. Thanks a lot

          • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by Tardisusers213.
          #54368
          Member
          ModdIt

            Read earlier in thread.
            I wonder how it would be possible to prepare a bootable flash drive without having an antiX.

            An alternative method, for example after a drive failure, no booting computer.

            Grab an android phone with sufficient memory and internet access.

            Etch Droid USB writer application from FDroid store can be used to write an image to a stick.
            Also available from APK Pure and github.

            Download antiX ISO to an android phone, then use either a double plug usb stick or a USB OTG adapter/cable
            to connect your stick for image write. This way many linux distros can be written in a bootable manner.

            Home page of the app is #https://etchdroid.depau.eu/
            #https://github.com/EtchDroid/EtchDroid/releases
            Known working OS images:
            Ubuntu and derivatives, Debian, Fedora, Arch Linux
            Raspberry Pi SD card images (you need to extract the zip file) and have a suitable adapter.

            Internal SD Card can not be written with an image!.

            Leia mais cedo na linha.
            Eu me pergunto como seria possível preparar um pen drive bootable sem ter um antiX.

            Um método alternativo, por exemplo, após uma falha de unidade, sem computador de inicialização.

            Pegue um telefone android com memória suficiente e acesso à internet.

            Etch Droid APLICATIVO de escritor USB da loja FDroid pode ser usado para escrever uma imagem para um bastão.
            Também disponível na APK Pure, na https://github.com/EtchDroid/EtchDroid/releases

            Baixe o ISO antiX para um telefone android e use um pendrive de plug duplo ou um adaptador/cabo USB OTG
            para conectar sua vara para gravação de imagem. Desta forma, muitos distros linux podem ser escritos de forma inicializada.

            A página inicial do aplicativo é #https://etchdroid.depau.eu/
            Imagens conhecidas do SO de trabalho:
            Ubuntu e derivados, Debian, Fedora, Arch Linux
            Imagens do cartão Raspberry Pi SD (você precisa extrair o arquivo zip) e ter um adaptador adequado.

            O Cartão SD interno não pode ser escrito com uma imagem!.

            • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by ModdIt. Reason: Added git Hub
            #54360
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            marcelocripe

              @christophe,

              I thank you for clarifying the acronyms. According to mr. Brian mentioned a few times, we have difficulties with the acronyms, because we are unable to understand the translations of the internet translators.

              @skidoo,

              Placed this topic in Kafeino instead of nosing into the ongoing portuguese topic because it’s about a broader issue, not a criticism of well-intentioned folks who are attempting to offer help/advice.

              I understood perfectly what you meant, I was able to understand in translation your good intention, which I am grateful to you.

              What I can do is to supplement this information in the topic https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/como-criar-pendrive-inicializavel-usando-o-ventoy-2/. But I can’t confuse people with advanced information on a topic that aims to exemplify a process that needs to be simple and easy for anyone to be able to have their first contact with antiX. Even if it is not possible to use persistence, because the programs available for Windows do not have the same quality and usage potential as Live USB Maker does. I still have a lot to learn, including using Live USB Maker.

              The PLoP you mentioned, is it the program on this site https://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/index.html?

              I wonder how it would be possible to prepare a bootable flash drive without having an antiX.

              Does it work? (I have no way to test this process today, I would need to have another pendrive available)

              1 Prepare the first bootable USB stick with a program that works on Windows and that works on computer startup.
              2 Boot the computer with the first bootable flash drive.
              3 After antiX starts, connect the second USB stick to be prepared with Live USB Maker.
              4 Open the Live USB Maker program, select the second flash drive, locate the antiX ISO that was downloaded in Windows to prepare the second flash bootable with antiX.
              5 Select “Full Mode – Recordable LiveUSB”

              This process seems to be very complicated for those who are leaving Windows and are arriving in antiX, especially for those who arrived here due to the possibility of having persistence through the bootable USB stick with antiX.

              The truth is that antiX offers a huge range of possibilities for use and that is fantastic!

              I thank everyone for their guidance and clarification.

              marcelocripe
              (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

              ———-

              @christophe,

              Eu agradeço por esclarecer as sigla. Conforme o sr. Brian citou algumas vezes, temos dificuldades com as siglas, pois não conseguimos compreender nas traduções dos tradutores da internet.

              @skidoo,

              Placed this topic in Kafeino instead of nosing into the ongoing portuguese topic because it’s about a broader issue, not a criticism of well-intentioned folks who are attempting to offer help/advice.

              Eu entendi perfeitamente o que você quis dizer, eu consegui compreender na tradução a sua boa intenção, a qual eu sou grato a você.

              O que eu posso fazer é complementar esta informação no tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/como-criar-pendrive-inicializavel-usando-o-ventoy-2/. Mas eu não posso confundir as pessoas com informações avançadas em um tópico que tem o objetivo de exemplificar um processo que precisa ser simples e fácil para qualquer um conseguir ter o primeiro contato com o antiX. Mesmo que seja sem a possibilidade de utilizar a persistência, devido os programas disponíveis para o Windows não possuírem a mesma qualidade e potencial de utilização que o Live USB Maker possui. Eu ainda tenho muito o que aprender, inclusive em utilizar o Live USB Maker.

              O PLoP que você citou, por acaso é o programa deste site https://www.plop.at/en/ploplinux/index.html?

              Eu fico imaginando como seria possível para preparar um pendrive inicializável sem ter um antiX.

              Será que isso funciona? (Eu não tenho como testar hoje este processo, eu precisaria ter outro pendrive disponível)

              1 Preparar o primeiro pendrive inicializável com um programa que funcione no Windows e que funcione na inicialização do computador.
              2 Inicializar o computador com o primeiro pendrive inicializável.
              3 Após o antiX inicializar, conecta-se o segundo pendrive para ser preparado com o Live USB Maker.
              4 Abrir o programa Live USB Maker, selecionar o segundo pendrive, localizar a ISO do antiX que foi transferida no Windows para preparar o segundo pendrive inicializável com o antiX.
              5 Selecionar o “Modo completo – LiveUSB gravável”

              Este processo parece ser bem complicado para quem está saindo do Windows e está chegando no antiX, em especial para quem chegou aqui devido a possibilidade de ter a persistência através do pendrive inicializável com o antiX.

              A bem da verdade é que o antiX oferece uma gama gigantesca de possibilidades de utilização e isso é fantástico!

              Eu agradeço a todos pelas orientações e esclarecimentos.

              marcelocripe
              (Texto original em Português do Brasil)

              #54349
              Member
              marcelocripe

                @skidoo,

                I thank you for caring and for creating this new topic.

                Through the WhatsApp and Telegram groups, Matheus told me that he returned to the topic https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/instalacao-antix/, including his name as the last one to post, but even the your post doesn’t appear at the moment, I imagine it ended up in the spam box.

                Even if you (skidoo) don’t speak Portuguese, you cared for us, you certainly took the trouble to translate it into your language. This is a valuable action, given that Matheus is a newcomer in the “Linux world” and more precisely here in the antiX community. Thank you very much!

                Normally, people will have Windows available to prepare the pendrive to come to know the “Linux world” and get to antiX or any other Linux distribution. This is the path I took, from Windows to antiX and I believe that many other people have followed this same path.

                On the programs to prepare a bootable USB drive to install antiX, I tested several programs, including Rufus. Among them, Sardu, Unetbootin Windows, Win Setup From USB, Balena Etcher Portable, Image USB, ROSA Image Writer, Universal USB Installer, YUMI and most of them complain about the type of antiX ISO compression. Some programs do not complain about anything, they do the process of preparing the pendrive and then the computer is unable to boot from the pendrive. Some of these programs even reach the antiX options menu of the screen image that @Xecure kindly posted to guide me on the topic https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/how-to-set-the-set-gfxmode-1024x768x16-1024×768/page/2/#post-37742, but does not boot antiX graphically. Is the problem with the antiX ISO or is the problem with these programs?

                The Etcher balena was the program that had no problems booting on different motherboards. On the motherboard that ventoy can’t load the ISO boot from antiX, the balena Etcher can. I don’t like the Etcher balena, because depending on the version of Windows the partition of the pendrive is not visible, besides the work having to format the pendrive every time it is necessary to use another ISO of antiX. That’s why I prefer multiple ISOs on DVD media.

                Now I’m the one with the most doubts …

                @Anticapitalista cited the “LUM” program. I don’t know this program. I searched the internet and did not find this program. Does this program work on Windows? What is the full name of this “LUM” program and what is the website for us to download it from?

                Which program or programs to prepare the bootable USB stick to install antiX and still allow the use of persistence?

                In addition to ventoy, there are other programs that facilitate the replacement of ISO, how is it possible to do it with ventoy?

                Complete and correct information is difficult to obtain and is all we need. When we don’t have complete and correct information, we use what we have available, we don’t always know enough, but we still try to help ourselves and that’s what really matters …

                I thank you for caring, regardless of the language.

                marcelocripe
                (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

                ———-

                @skidoo,

                Eu agradeço por você se importar e por criar este novo tópico.

                Através dos grupos de WhatsApp e Telegram, o Matheus me disse que retornou ao tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/instalacao-antix/, inclusive aparece o nome dele como sendo o último a postar, mas até o momento não aparece a sua postagem, eu imagino que tenha ido parar na caixa de spam.

                Mesmo você (skidoo) não falando o idioma Português, você se importou conosco, certamente se deu o trabalho de traduzir para o seu idioma. Isso é uma ação valorosa, haja vista que o Matheus é um recém chegado no “mundo Linux” e mais precisamente aqui na comunidade antiX. Muito obrigado!

                Normalmente as pessoas terão um Windows disponível para preparar o pendrive para virem conhecer o “mundo Linux” e chegar até o antiX ou a qualquer outra distribuição Linux. Este é o caminho que eu fiz, do Windows para o antiX e acredito que muitas outras pessoas também fizeram este mesmo caminho.

                Sobre os programas para preparar pendrive inicializável para fazer a instalação do antiX, eu testei diversos programas, inclusive o Rufus. Entre eles, Sardu, Unetbootin Windows, Win Setup From USB, balena Etcher Portable, Image USB, ROSA Image Writer, Universal USB Installer, YUMI e a maioria deles reclamam do tipo de compactação da ISO do antiX. Alguns programas não reclamam nada, fazem o processo de preparação do pendrive e depois o computador não consegue inicializar a partir do pendrive. Alguns destes programas inclusive consegue chegar até o menu de opções do antiX da imagem da tela que o @Xecure gentilmente postou para me orientar no tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/how-to-set-the-set-gfxmode-1024x768x16-1024×768/page/2/#post-37742, mas não inicializa em modo gráfico o antiX. O problema está na ISO do antiX ou o problema está nestes programas?

                O balena Etcher foi o programa que não apresentou problemas para inicializar em diferentes placa-mãe. Na placa-mãe que o ventoy não consegue carregar a inicialização da ISO do antiX, o balena Etcher consegue. Eu não gosto do balena Etcher, pois dependendo da versão do Windows a partição do pendrive não fica visível, além do trabalho ter que formatar o pendrive toda vez que é preciso utilizar outra ISO do antiX. É por isso que prefiro várias ISOs em uma mídia de DVD.

                Agora sou eu que fico com mais dúvidas ainda…

                O @anticapitalista citou o programa “LUM”. Eu não conheço este programa. Eu pesquisei na internet e não encontrei este programa. Por acaso este programa funciona no Windows? Qual é o nome completo deste programa “LUM” e em qual é o site para podermos baixá-lo?

                Qual ou quais programas para preparar o pendrive inicializável no Windows para fazer a instalação do antiX e ainda permitir o uso da persistência?

                Além do ventoy, existem outros programas que facilitam a substituição da ISO, como é possível fazer com o ventoy?

                Informação completa e correta é difícil de obter e é tudo que precisamos. Quando não possuímos a informação completa e correta, utilizamos o que temos disponível, nem sempre sabemos o suficiente, mas mesmo assim tentamos nos ajudar e é isso que realmente importa…

                Eu agradeço por se importarem, independentemente do idioma.

                marcelocripe
                (Texto original em Português do Brasil)

                #54337
                Member
                zeh

                  However initially, when you just downloaded antiX ISO and do not have antiX already installed you do need a tool to create a bootable USB stick from such antiX ISO, as not having antiX installed yet you do not have yet LUM or ISO-Snapshot. This initial state is where BalenaEtcher or Rufus comes in handy to create such bootable USB from the downloaded antiX ISO, unless you want to burn such ISO to disk and boot from DVD drive…

                  The recommended for MX is Rufus, so it goes for antiX as well, I guess.

                  https://mxlinux.org/download-links/
                  From section 4.:
                  “If you want to create a USB on a Windows base, we suggest you use Rufus, which supports our bootloader.”

                  https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/iso-download-mirrors/
                  From the Checksums and signatures of Final ISOs section:
                  “In MS Windows®, the easiest way to ensure integrity (as well as to create the live USB) is to use the USB formatting utility Rufus, which automatically runs a check.”

                  • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by zeh.
                  #54332
                  Member
                  Tardisusers213

                    your iso on safe video mode got it to boot into a gui. ill try to install it now

                    • This reply was modified 2 years, 2 months ago by Tardisusers213.
                    #54327
                    Member
                    Xecure

                      For this system, you can either try booting in “Safe Video Mode” (second/third option in the Boot Menu, if I remember correctly), and see if it can boot to a graphical interface, or you could try your luck with the Legacy ISO I built for problematic and old video drivers.

                      I cannot see the image you attached. Does your machine have 256MBs or 1GB of RAM? The more, the better.

                      antiX Live system enthusiast.
                      General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

                      #54304
                      Member
                      olsztyn

                        antiX devs have never recommended use of ventoy and balenaEtcher. We have always told users to use LUM.

                        I admit I am a bit confused by this discussion. Once you have antiX in place, whether installed or Live on USB stick, there is no question in my my mind that LUM and ISO-Snapshot are superior tools to proceed from such antiX instance. And I would not think where BalenaEtcher or similar would play any role once you have antiX in place as Live, as you can install from Live or create another instance using LUM.
                        However initially, when you just downloaded antiX ISO and do not have antiX already installed you do need a tool to create a bootable USB stick from such antiX ISO, as not having antiX installed yet you do not have yet LUM or ISO-Snapshot. This initial state is where BalenaEtcher or Rufus comes in handy to create such bootable USB from the downloaded antiX ISO, unless you want to burn such ISO to disk and boot from DVD drive…
                        Please let me know if I misunderstood the meaning of this conversation…
                        Thanks and Regards…

                        Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                        https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                        Anonymous

                          Hey!
                          ventoy and balenaEtcher and mintStick and Plop and ohMyMultiboot and CapserAintYerFriend…
                          lead to a less-than-ideal outcome.
                          Recommending them (other than for exceptional cases, e.g. Plop!) is a DISSERVICE.

                          https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/drag-and-drop-iso-to-usb-can-boot-multiple-isos/#post-44057

                          The Ventoy part works as advertised, allowing dynamically choosing any ISO from USB drive, including an antiX iso. BUT, an antiX booted this way does NOT have all the writable features available from a standard antiX liveUSB. So, Ventoy does not bring real value to my daily antiX workflow, and remains just a toy (pun not intended) to host a couple other distro for me.

                          reposting here my previous antixforum post, quoting BitJam, the primary developer of the antiX Live system
                          https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/drag-and-drop-iso-to-usb-can-boot-multiple-isos/#post-44048
                          ^— one of my several previous posts on this subject so, yeah, it’s exasperating to find again today that this info needs to be repeated, reposted.

                          https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=59905

                          by BitJam » Tue Aug 18, 2020

                          the Ventoy Github site says:

                          “Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don’t need to format the disk over and over, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.”

                          This is the old “boot from iso mode” which we support but do not recommend. We offer a “fromiso=<file>” boot option for this but I imagine Ventoy is using grub to mount the iso file automatically. Once you get it to boot (we have Grub experts here who may be able to help you with the grub entry if it’s not working) then you can add one of the following boot options to specify a read-write persistence partition where we can store our persistence files:

                          pdev=xxxx (the persistence partition name such as sdb1 or /dev/sdb1)
                          puuid=xxxx (the UUID of the persistence partition)
                          plab=xxxx (the label of the persistence partition)

                          The first time persistence is enabled we will create the persistence files for you if they don’t already exist. So all you need to do is point us to a read/write partition with one of the options above and you can also specify the form of persistence you want to use (with another option) if you don’t like the default. Normally we offer to save any boot parameters you used but booting directly from iso makes this either very difficult or impossible.

                          We support booting from iso file but we don’t recommend it because it’s not compatible with many of our extensive live-usb features. For example the live-remaster tool does not work with direct booting from an iso file. You could probably do this on your own by first making an iso snapshot and then manually copying the iso snapshot file overwriting the original iso file.

                          IF you want to try our extensive live-usb features then we recommend you use the live-usb-maker tool which comes with MX and antiX Linux. There is also an AppImage available if you want to run it on another Linux distro. Many people only run MX/antiX live using persistence and remastering to keep their changes. We tried to make this a “distro development tool” for creating your own customized version of antiX or MX. The constraints of booting directly from an iso file conflict with this distro development approach and also conflict with many of our other advanced features. It’s sort of like trying to combine a school bus with a Ferrari.

                          If onboarding from windows O/S,
                          “rufus” http://rufus.ie/ is a suitable utility
                          (skip the “setup persistence” option within rufus, during antiX liveboot you will, optionally, setup persistence)

                          If onboarding from another linux distribution, live-usb-maker is THE ideal utility to use.
                          https://mxlinux.org/blog/live-usb-maker-tool-now-available-as-an-appimage
                          .

                          #54290

                          In reply to: Instalação AntiX

                          Member
                          Matheus

                            Olá, PPC e Xecure! Vocês estão bem?

                            Vim notificá-los de que a recomendação de tentar instalar o AntiX com outro programa de boot ao invés do Ventoy, deu certo. Usei o Yumi com a ISO disponibilizada por Xecure para placas mãe com vídeo SIS ou VIA. Com a ISO testada anteriormente, ia para telas pretas, onde eu não conseguia prosseguir.

                            Com a ajuda importantíssima do Marcelo Cripe, através do WhatsApp e Telegram (particular e grupos), consegui instalar o sistema e agora posso configurar e instalar os programas depois que eu der acesso à internet ao computador.

                            Muito obrigado pela ajuda de vocês. Não teria conseguido sem vocês três e a comunidade aqui. Espero que voltemos a nos falar em breve.

                            Atenciosamente, Matheus Motareli.

                            #54257
                            Member
                            Xecure

                              I am not sure how you made the ISO, but I can tell you how I made an installed antiX system on a VirtualBox VM, made it a Live USB and then installed on real hardware.

                              1. First you need to install on a VM. This needs your user account created on the VM, installing normally (I asume this is what you did). Make sure the installed system is FULLY UPDATED to get the latest iso-template and iso-snapshot patches and the latest antix installer version.

                              2. Use the Iso snapshot tool to create an exact copy of the running system. I used the default configuration (Preserving accounts for personal backup), in xz compression.

                              3. Use Live USB Maker to “burn” the snapshot into a USB storage device. You can do this from inside the VM or get the ISO out and use a different live USB system to make the bootable snapshot.

                              4. Boot the Live USB snapshot. Use the Control Centre > Disks > antiX Installer to install the snapshot (custom installation, into any partition you want it) and follow the steps. It will not ask you to create a new user account, if I am not mistaken, but install the snapshot completely into your selected partition.

                              I need to check this again but I think that is how it is done. I don’t remember having to create a new account, so I asume it will not ask you to create one.

                              Always make sure your system is up to date before proceeding to do a snapshot, as you will be sure you have all recent patches.

                              antiX Live system enthusiast.
                              General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

                              Member
                              Crashed Disk

                                Can anyone help or point to any resources to help with this I’m running out of ideas?

                                Basically trying to be careful and test stuff on a VM before committing to real machine. I have an iso of the running machine and was hoping that when I go for a reinstall I can just use this iso which has been used with the live usb maker so that I can install the system as is. So in the virtual machine it boots ok (no option to install straight off from boot menu) I can login so tried as some have suggested elsewhere to use terminal and do maninstall.

                                All goes well with maninstall until I get to the point where it says unable to create user passwords (I don’t want to do that accounts already in image? So just give a random name like test). Has anyone managed to get this to work, is it just a VM thing?

                                Currently my live machine has a Ubuntu partition and a MacOS Snow leopard partition and I want to get rid of Ubuntu which I can use gparted to do but then want to use the unused space to give Antix. If can’t be done or too complicated that’s fine and that’s where the reinstall comes in but don’t really want to have to set everything back up if I can restore it.

                                I hope this makes sense I just seem to be confusing myself now and don’t want to reinvent the wheel if someone else can help.

                                #54249
                                Member
                                Xecure

                                  Now geany’s icons look the same as before (Thanks, anticapitalista)

                                  Internationalisation – menus, antiX apps

                                  I have been booting the latest snapshot (now there is no ISTRO Name error, thanks) in different languages (UEFI Boot), and menus and most antiX programs seem to be good.
                                  I have observed a strange phenomenon during the UEFI text menus. If I don’t select the text menus and use the lang=<language-code> boot parameter, the splasht animated bootscreen displays all boot messages in the language I have chosen, but when I pick the language with the text menus, at first it does display translated boot messages, but after the “pick desktop, keep changes” text menu options, it displays the original English boot messages in the tsplash animated screen.

                                  Anyway, this is just during text menu (UEFI boot mode), but it doesn’t change that the system correctly boots using the selected language, user folders are translated, menus are translated, programs are translated, etc.

                                  NOTE: I think others should also test this, so we can isolate the issue from my snapshot. Does the “Refresh menus” work for you? I booted in two different languages and “Refresh Menu” didn’t work for updating the “Applications” submenu to display translated categories. I had to use a sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global to get it to display in another language.

                                  antiX Live system enthusiast.
                                  General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

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