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[Member olsztyn]

Thank you skidoo for this extensive analysis of approach taken in both architectures. I greatly appreciate this comparison. This your writeup will be added to my collection of valuable tech articles so as not to lose it. Also I will need to study this subject in more depth, as I am not familiar with some concepts described here.

Anonymous wrote:

In contrast, the antiX tools offer a choice of compression (unpacking more-highly-compressed files during each liveboot takes longer, is more CPU intensive) and — more importantly, IMO — the antiX tools provide a well-curated set of exclusionary files//path (omitted from the produced copy, with attention to “no bloat” and toward protecting personal privacy) along with ease of customizing the exlustion list(s).

I did notice the flexibility of choice provided in the antiX’ tool, comparing to linux-live, not speaking of gui interface.

Anonymous wrote:

We cannot (opensource) see the busybox sourcecode utilized in live-linux; the source is not readily available (the documented ftp server is no longer accessible
http://ftp.slax.org/Slax-7.x-development/sources/Slax-7.0-sources/busybox-and-ntfs3g/ ). Can we (opensource) see the busybox sourcecode utilized by the antiX tools? (If so, I’m unaware of where/how to retrieve it.)

IMHO it would be great study if the source of both technologies could be found somewhere and also to safeguard the maintenance…
Many thanks and best regards…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

I’ve made an alpha version of an antiX respin with no non-free software or firmware, that I’m currently calling antiX Libre Respin. I’ve posted the files for it here: https://archive.org/download/antiX19.3x64LibreRespin-20201226_1927

The torrent downloads faster than the straight https download of the ISO from my experience.

Please note, this is distributed with no warranty whatsoever, and has only been lightly tested on two of my laptops, so treat it as very experimental. I would not recommend using it to install in a dual boot configuration with Windows or in some other configuration where you might be putting your production systems or your important data at risk.

Also, since this has no non-free software or firmware, it isn’t going to work with most wifi cards. Libre linux does work with some Atheros chipsets, so if you have an Atheros usb wifi dongle laying around, you might try it. It should (hopefully) work with a lot of ethernet hardware. I’m not blacklisting proprietary software or firmware, so you are free to install proprietary firmware for your wifi card if you like.

Key characteristics of this respin:
1. Basically a regular setup with antiX 19.3 – you won’t see a lot of visual difference with regular antiX at this point
2. This respin is using the Debian kernel, as it does not have non-free blobs
3. I’ve cut out the “helper” apps from antiX which install non-free software and firmware. You won’t find the programs in the Control center to load the Nvidia firmware or the Windows wifi firmware. anticapitalista re-wrote the packageinstaller-pkglist to help me with this respin, so this is using the new packageinstaller-pkglist-libre package, which does not offer to install non-free software. Once again – you can manually find and install non-free software and drivers yourself, I have not blacklisted anything, but this respin is set up to not help you do it automatically.

Other than the lack of non-free firmware, I hope you won’t have abnormal difficulties with this respin. I’ll try to support requests for help as I can, but most problems other than the lack of non-free firmware should have the same solutions as for regular antiX.

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[Member seaken64]

Welcome to antiX!

I often use CD or DVD discs since I have a lot of ancient machines around here. Sometimes I swap in a DVD drive instead of the old CD drive since many iso files now exceed the CD limit.

If the CD/DVD won’t boot I have taken the hard drive out and installed to a machine that does have a bootable CD/DVD or USB and then install, then put the hard disk back in the other machine.

Seaken64

[Member Xecure]

CyberGhost wrote:

Can I install antiX from disc?

Yes. Many have done it like that. Burn a DVD with the ISO (with your favorite program) and install.

If you search the forum for DVD install you will see many have used it because of no working USB ports or, as in your case, they couldn’t select a boot device (and only CD/DVD worked).

Make sure the MD5sum of the downloaded ISO matches the one on the site to be sure it downloaded properly before burning the DVD.

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

Can I install antiX from disc = YES

Hi I searched the forum for an answer but didn’t find one. I even searched the wiki. I also searched the web with no answers but I did find a site that sells installation discs with antiX on it. What I want to know is, can I just make an installation disc myself on one of my other laptops using XFBurn? I have the antiX full ISO already downloaded. Ok the reason I’m having to install from disc is because, this is an old laptop that my brother used in the military a long time ago. Maybe back in the early 2000’s, late 1990s. It still has Windows XP on it and boots up just fine and runs just fine but the computer doesn’t see the 4 USB ports on it. It doesn’t even have a boot order option in the BIOS for USB. I tried installing from USB flash drive already and couldn’t get it to recognize the flash drive. So, if I buy some blank DVDs, can I use XFBurn to burn the ISO to disc to make a bootable disc, or do I need to use another program? Oh by the way the laptop is an HP Pavilion dv10000. It has 1gb ram and an Intel Centrino processor with 160gb hdd Thanks in advance!

Here’s the laptop specs. They’re not completely accurate for this laptop but will give you a general idea of what I’m working with.

https://www.cnet.com/products/hp-pavilion-dv1000/specs/

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[Member Windbrand]

Thanks again, you are very helpful!
I did as you said again and here what i got:
5.6.10 – same is 5.8.16, doesent boot without nomodeset, with nomodeset xserver not starting.
5.2.8 – doesent boot at all, without nomodeset freezing at fb0: switching to inteldrmfb from simple, with nomodeset – see attachment.
4.19.73 – without nomodeset i was able to boot one time, see a login screen and GUI froze, i was able to switch to tty, so i reboot system and all other time its just black screen, i cant switch to tty, or do something else. With nomodeset xserver wont start.

I’m going to install antiX 19.3 x64 bit ISO with 4.19 kernel as you suggested, maybe this will help.
Thanks.

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[Member Xecure]

I am not too sure that connman’s NTP requests will really update the clock. We will have to test and see.

ModdIt wrote:

Strange, not yet experienced: connman disabling wifi on first boot from live ISO

Did you never have to click on the ON/OFF slider/switch to enable wifi on any of the default antiX 19 ISO’s (in the connman UI)? I have had to do it each time and every time on a new ISO boot. This is the reason I created the youtube video and the antix-wifi-switch script (apart of making it easy to switch to ceni for those who want/need it). Most users don’t know they have to enable wifi first to get connected to a Wireless Access Point using Connman, and that is why they say that wifi doesn’t work out of the box in antiX.

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

[Member ModdIt]

I did not disable automatic time check as that leaves the system without NTP functionality,
adding a list of timeservers through the connman interface fixes the problem.

Still think ideal is a “fallback global time server list”. Which works as expected.
And set a slower minimum query rate, minutes rather than seconds would be more sensible.

Connman also asks for nameservers, on wifi, entering some gives more strange blips in conky.
Maybe they get querys too, to figure that I must make a fresh stick as running default is
free DNS on main setup.

Side note,
After reading with regard to timeservers DOS and DDOS and the frequency of connman NTP pings
maybe some connection problems might be caused by server rejection based on IP adress.
Problem condensed: the query-to-response ratio is anywhere between 20:1 and 200:1 or more.
So the requests can cause a lot of serverside bandwith usage. Certainly running three laptops
at same time without a fix made our home network very unresponsive.

Strange, not yet experienced: connman disabling wifi on first boot from live ISO

[Member Xecure]

I see you are a more advanced linux user than what I expected. Good.
If possible, boot with nomodeset and login in the terminal session with no X. Use antix-wifi-switch to switch to ceni as default wifi manager (for now)
antix-wifi-switch --cli ceni
Even if you use wpa_supplicant, I believe you cannot connect to the internet if resolv.conf does not symlink to the correct file. The antix-wifi-switch script will fix everything for you, so you can use ceni or use wpa_cli directly to connect to the Wireless Access Point and get to the internet.

If everything works and you get connected, lets update the packagelist, upgrade the system and install some different kernel versions to see if we can get one that boots with your system.
sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

Then use cli-aptiX to install different kernel versions
sudo cli-aptiX
You need to > Search for antiX kernels, view the list of kernels, and try installing:
4.19.73
5.2.8
5.6.10

I selected these kernels because I know they worked on my Teclast Tablet, which has the same CPU (intel atom x5-Z8350) and wifi card (rtl8723BS). On my device, inxi -N still doesn’t recognize the device (nor lspci or lsusb), but it works on connman and ceni (dmesg shows it was correctly recognized after kernel 4.19).
After installing each kernel (linux-image and linux-header will be installed for each one of them), reboot and try to boot into the system with each kernel until you find the one that boots into GUI.

Later, purge all kernels that didn’t work (for example, for the 5.8 kernel:
sudo apt purge linux-image-5.8.16-antix.1-686-smp-pae linux-headers-5.8.16-antix.1-686-smp-pae
)

I asume you chose antiX 32 bits because the device has 2GBs of RAM. Mine had 4GBs of RAM, and antiX 19 x64 works very well on it. I can also see that your laptop has a 32 bit UEFI. Normally, 64bit linux ISOs don’t boot, but I believe that the antiX 54 bit ISO comes with both 32 and 64 bit EFI files, so they should be able to boot (if you ever need to upgrade to 64 bits in the future).

If you have the free time and a spare USB (once you have everything else solved), try booting with an antiX 19.3 x64 bit ISO with 4.19 kernel (https://mirrors.evowise.com/mxlinux-iso/ANTIX/Final/antiX-19/4.19_kernel/antiX-19.3_x64-full.iso), as I believe both 32 and 64 bits EFI options are included in the ISO. If it boots for you, you can see if the WIFI works out of the box with connman (and there you have another future possibility).

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

[Member Xecure]

ModdIt is right on the money. Switching to ceni stops the incessant pings, so this problem is related to connman.
See: https://www.toradex.com/community/questions/926/disable-automatic-manipulation-of-clock-linux-coli.html

The solution is to add the lines to disable automatic time check to the global configuration in /var/lib/connman/settings, as ModdIt suggested:

[global]
OfflineMode=false
TimeUpdates=manual
TimezoneUpdates=auto

This will disable automatic Time updates.

Now, restart the connman service.
sudo service connman restart

Thanks for finding the reason for this, ModdIt.

I will try it latter, but if we add the lines:

[WiFi]
Enable=true

to this file and have it as a configuration file for Build-iso, would this solve the problem with connman disabling wifi on first boot from live ISO?

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

[Member Roberto]

No, I still do not tried another kernel. I can not change the kernel if I am booting from iso file. I will get a clean usb stick and install the antiX-19.3 there, I will do that using the antiX tools, so I will able to try a different kernel.

[Member Roberto]

BobC, I have antiX-19full Marielle Franco booting from a iso file in flash drive, it uses grub4dos to boot and suspends to ram normally. Also, I have Linux Mint, Debian jessie, and Porteus-4.0, all them are booted from a iso file by grub4dos and all them suspend to ram without problem. The only distro that do not suspend to ram is antiX-19.3full Manolis Glezos, so I do not believe the problem is grub4dos. I use grub4dos for a long time and never have problem to suspend to ram.

[Member Roberto]

fungalnet, I am not using swap. I am using grub4dos to boot the iso file of antiX-19.3 from a flash drive.
Here is my boot lines:

kernel /antiX/vmlinuz fromiso=/_ISO/LINUX/MNU/antiX19.3/32bits/antiX-19.3_386-full.iso desktop=space-icewm desktheme=dark hwclock=local tz=America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires kbd=br quiet splasht disable=lxF
initrd /antiX/initrd.gz

[Member fungalnet]

ls -al /etc/runit/runsvdir/default

lists the links to the service files that run when the system boots up.

The service files are in /etc/sv

ln -s /etc/sv/sshd /etc/runit/runsvdir/default/

starts sshd

rm /etc/runit/runsvdir/default/sshd

removes the link and stops the service supervision.

Pretty damn simple. You have service files and you have a crunch directory where you link and unlink the service files you want running or not.

Beware that different cpus may use different amount of ram for the same exact system. It may have to do with what the kernel loads up to utilize the particular machine’s hw. So don’t draw quick conclusions on the init system.

Also if you look at processes with something like htop or lxtask and order the ram use running services must be identical to draw conlusions on ram use. Then boot time is also based on what services are running. If for example you have wpa-supplicant running and have no wifi, or have wifi but it doesn’t access any networks, it slows down booting somewhat as it is unnecesseraly waiting for response. Systemd is really terrible with net devices, if it is not connecting it takes by default 90s to move further down the list of services to run.

Then there is the issue of running runit as true init (pid1) or having sysv scripts run stage1 and runit taking over as a service supervisor. From what I’ve seen you can do either with antix/debian.

anti-X - Adélie - obarun - systemd Free Space

[Member ArchiMark]

Downloaded antiX iso again, checked file, then burned new dvd and re-did USB flash drive.

Booted up Vaio with both attached, tried running Terminal and Web Browser from menu, they did not open up. Tried File Manager and Editor from menu and it opened up Rox-Filer and Geany.

Did Run > rxvt and it opened it up.

Something odd….when I click on ‘Applications’ in menu, I don’t see all the Categories listed.

Just see a few programs listed: Print Settings, Qt5 Settings, Remove Menu Item, Screenlight, Set Font Size, Wallpaper, Windows Wireless Drivers.