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Original title in Brazilian Portuguese: How to use antiX on computers with a motherboard with SIS or VIA chipset
Hello Anticapitalista and antiX Developers
You already know that I am a beginner in this “world of Linux distributions”, I arrived here at antiX in June 2020, since then, I am learning a lot from our colleagues in the forum. I know I still have a lot to learn, so my considerations below are still of a limited view on the subject.
The information I searched for on the internet indicates “that most drivers are in the kernel”
Motherboard of the brand ASUS, as it will be in the following example, of the model P5S800-VM (with chipset SIS), when they arrived in Brazil they were the dream of consumption of several computer users (including mine), at the time who did not have financial conditions to buy an ASUS or Gigabyte motherboard, I bought MSI 238318 or STI 910090 (with Via chipset) or one made in China and then suffered to find the drives, Two other computers from the NGO arrived for me to prepare, but because they are computers with motherboard with SIS chipset and another with VIA antiX 19.3 or 19.2 make the video very slow, failing and with “ghosts”. It is impossible to use the operating system like that.
I applied all the teachings on the topic https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/how-to-set-the-set-gfxmode-1024x768x16-1024×768/ to identify ASUS P5S800- branded motherboard devices VM. (Commands are available after the original Brazilian Portuguese text)
Due to the teachings of the topic I mentioned earlier, antiX 16.3 will certainly work, with these two computers that have only 1GB of DDR RAM. I will need to install a full 32-bit version in order to save as much RAM as possible, but I have some doubts:
1-antiX 16.3 had its “end of life” on June 6, 2020 or I can also understand that it was discontinued. Do the repositories still work for antiX 16.3 full 32 bits and antiXfull 64 bits?
2- If the repositories still work for antiX 16.3 32 bits and antiX 64 bits, how much longer will they be available?
The antiX 16.3 64 bits that I prepared for the computer with the VIA motherboard and 2GB of DDR RAM, from the topic I mentioned earlier. At the time, for example, I was unable to install the LibreOffice translations that already come with antiX. What I did to get around this, was to download the LibreOfficetraduced AppImage for PT-BR and the other programs were with AppIamge. I managed to make antiX 16.3 64 bits friendly to the end user with the programs and with the Menu translated to PT-BR added in the Personal Menu. All of these were palliative solutions, but 32-bit AppImage practically does not exist, it will be difficult to use antiX 16.3 32 bits. I still don’t know how to prepare AppImage to be able to use in antiX 16.3 32 bits. When I learn to create AppImage, if ever I will learn to do it, as I cannot find consultation material in Portuguese teaching how to create the 32-bit AppImage. All the material is available for consultation in the English language and usually refer to to 64 bits. Translations remain a daily challenge, it is not enough to translate the words, it is necessary to adapt the text so that the words can make complete sense in the sentences, but this is not always possible, as they depend on the context being used. Therefore, I continue to dedicate myself to make each text the best possible on the site transifex for PT-BR for antiX.
After this long introduction, there are the next questions, which are the important ones in this topic:
3-Would it be possible to create antiX 19.3 with the antiX 16.3 kernel?
Since I got here (on antiX and the forum), I have stopped searching for other Linux distributions. I already know that this is my place, I met excellent people here. But if it is not possible to use an antiX due to the drivers, unfortunately, I will have to continue the search, just so that I can continue saving old computers (that are working) from being thrown in the trash.
I hope, Anticapitalista, that you and the developers can evaluate this topic and analyze if this is possible or if it is feasible to accomplish. I know that there are already several antiX options and these options require a lot of work time to be produced and made available.
Regardless of the answer, I thank you for creating and making antiX available.
Thank you.
marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)———-
Título original em Português do Brasil: Como utilizar o antiX em computadores com placa-mãe com chipset SIS ou VIA
Olá Anticapitalista e Desenvolvedores do antiX
Vocês já sabem que eu sou iniciante neste “mundo das distribuições Linux”, cheguei aqui no antiX em Junho de 2020, desde então, eu estou aprendendo muito com os nossos colegas do fórum. Eu sei que ainda tenho muito o que aprender, por isso as minhas considerações a seguir ainda são de uma visão limitada sobre o assunto.
As informações que eu pesquisei na internet indicam “que a maioria dos drivers estão no kernel”
Placa-mãe da marca ASUS, como será no exemplo a seguir, do modelo P5S800-VM (com chipset SIS), quando chegaram no Brasil eram o sonho de consumo de vários usuários de computador (inclusive o meu), na época quem não tinha condições financeiras de comprar placa-mãe ASUS ou Gigabyte, comprava MSI 238318 ou STI 910090 (com chipset Via) ou alguma fabricada na China e depois sofria para encontrar os drives, Chegaram outros dois computadores da ONG para eu preparar, mas por serem computadores com placa-mãe com chipset SIS e outra com VIA o antiX 19.3 ou 19.2 ficam com o vídeo muito lento, falhando e com “fantasmas”. É impossível utilizar o sistema operacional assim.
Eu apliquei todos os ensinamentos do tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/how-to-set-the-set-gfxmode-1024x768x16-1024×768/ para identificar os dispositivos da placa-mãe da marca ASUS P5S800-VM. (Os comandos estão disponíveis após o texto original em Português do Brasil)Devido aos ensinamentos do tópico que citei anteriormente, o antiX 16.3 certamente irá funcionar, com estes dois computadores que possuem apenas 1GB de memória RAM DDR. Eu precisarei instalar o uma versão full 32 bits para poder economizar o máximo possível de memória RAM, mas tenho algumas dúvidas:
1-O antiX 16.3 teve o seu “fim de vida” no dia 06 de junho de 2020 ou também posso compreender que foi descontinuado. Os repositórios ainda funcionam para antiX 16.3 full 32 bits e para o antiXfull 64 bits?
2- Se os repositórios ainda funcionam para antiX 16.3 32 bits e para o antiX 64 bits, por quanto tempo mais estarão disponíveis?
O antiX 16.3 64 bits que eu preparei para o computador com a placa-mãe VIA e 2GB de memória RAM DDR, do tópico que citei anteriormente. Na ocasião, por exemplo, eu não consegui instalar as traduções do LibreOffice que já vem com o antiX. O que eu fiz para contornar isso, foi baixar o AppImage do LibreOfficetraduzidos para PT-BR e os demais programas foram com os AppIamge. Eu consegui tornar antiX 16.3 64 bits amigável para o usuário final com os programas e com o Menu traduzido para PT-BR adicionado no Menu Pessoal. Todas estas foram soluções paliativas, mas AppImage de 32 bits praticamente não existem, ficará difícil utilizar o antiX 16.3 32 bits. Eu ainda não sei preparar AppImage para poder usar no antiX 16.3 32 bits. Quando eu aprender a criar AppImage, se é que um dia eu conseguirei aprender a fazer isso, pois não encontro material de consulta em Português ensinando a criar o AppImage de 32 bits Todo o material está disponível a para consulta em idioma Inglês e normalmente se referem a 64 bits. As traduções continuam sendo um desafio diário, não basta traduzir as palavras, é preciso adaptar o texto para que as palavras possam fazer sentido completo nas frases, mas nem sempre isso é possível, pois dependem do contexto que estão sendo utilizadas. Por isso, continuo me dedicando para fazer cada texto o melhor possível no site transifex para PT-BR para o antiX.
Depois desta longa introdução, vem as próxima perguntas, sendo estas as importantes deste tópico:
3-Seria possível criar o antiX 19.3 com o kernel do antiX 16.3?
Desde que eu cheguei aqui (no antiX e no fórum), eu parei de pesquisar outras distribuições Linux. Eu já sei que aqui é o meu lugar, eu encontrei aqui pessoas excelentes. Mas se não for possível utilizar um antiX devido aos drivers, infelizmente, eu terei que continuar a busca, só para eu poder continuar salvando computadores antigos (que estão funcionando) de serem jogados no lixo.
Eu espero, Anticapitalista, que você e os desenvolvedores possam avaliar este tópico e analisar se isso é possível ou se é viável de ser realizado. Eu sei que já existem várias opções de antiX e estas opções exigem bastante tempo de trabalho para serem produzidas e disponibilizadas.
Independentemente da resposta, eu agradeço por criarem e disponibilizarem o antiX.
Muito obrigado.
marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -Fxz
System:
Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc
v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.8.3
Distro: antiX-19.3_386-full Manolis Glezos 15 October 2020
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5S800-VM v: Rev 1.xx serial: <filter>
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1022.001 date: 05/11/2006
CPU:
Topology: Single Core model: Intel Celeron bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Netburst Smithfield rev: 9 L2 cache: 256 KiB
flags: lm pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 5306
Speed: 2653 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2653
Graphics:
Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or
662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vesa resolution: 1024×768~N/A
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC97 Sound
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.7
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
vendor: ASUSTeK P5P800-MX Mainboard driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: e400
bus ID: 00:0b.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 7.27 GiB used: 14.3 MiB (0.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DT 101 G2 size: 7.27 GiB
RAID:
Hardware-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180
SATA/PATA [SiS]
driver: sata_sis v: 1.0 bus ID: 00:05.0
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 744.0 MiB used: 2.3 MiB (0.3%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102
Sensors:
Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured?
Info:
Processes: 133 Uptime: 12m Memory: 964.9 MiB used: 103.2 MiB (10.7%)
Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
inxi: 3.0.36demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -G
Graphics:
Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or
662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
driver: N/A
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vesa resolution: 1024×768~N/A
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6demo@antix1:~
$ inxi -v8
System:
Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc
v: 8.3.0
parameters: vga=0x0317 lang=pt_BR tz=America/Sao_Paulo quiet splasht
disable=lxF xorg=safe
Desktop: IceWM 1.8.3 dm: SLiM 1.3.6
Distro: antiX-19.3_386-full Manolis Glezos 15 October 2020
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5S800-VM v: Rev 1.xx
serial: <root required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1022.001
date: 05/11/2006
Memory:
RAM: total: 964.9 MiB used: 105.8 MiB (11.0%)
RAM Report:
permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
PCI Slots:
Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
Topology: Single Core model: Intel Celeron bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Netburst Smithfield family: F (15) model-id: 4 stepping: 9
microcode: 3 L2 cache: 256 KiB bogomips: 5306
Speed: 2653 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2653
Flags: acpi apic bts cid clflush cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl
dtes64 dts fpu fxsr ht lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr pae pat pbe
pebs pge pni pse pse36 sep ss sse sse2 tm tm2 tsc vme xtpr
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable
Type: l1tf status: Vulnerable
Type: mds
status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown status: Vulnerable
Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2
mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or
662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 1039:6330
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vesa resolution: 1024×768~N/A
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC97 Sound
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.7
chip ID: 1039:7012
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
vendor: ASUSTeK P5P800-MX Mainboard driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: e400
bus ID: 00:0b.0 chip ID: 10ec:8139
IF: eth0 state: down mac: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX (I changed the MAC to XX/eu alterei o MAC para XX)
WAN IP: No WAN IP data found. Connected to the web? SSL issues?
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 7.27 GiB used: 14.3 MiB (0.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DT 101 G2 size: 7.27 GiB
block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
serial: 001CC0EC330FEB816605000A rev: PMAP scheme: MBR
Floppy-1: /dev/fd0
RAID:
Hardware-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180
SATA/PATA [SiS]
driver: sata_sis v: 1.0 port: 0000 bus ID: 00:05.0 chip ID: 1039.0180
rev: 01
Partition:
ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 744.0 MiB used: 2.3 MiB (0.3%) fs: overlay
source: ERR-102 label: N/A uuid: N/A
ID-2: /live/boot-dev raw size: 1.17 GiB size: <root required>
used: <root required> fs: N/A dev: /dev/ventoy label: N/A uuid: N/A
ID-3: /live/linux raw size: 1.14 GiB size: <root required>
used: <root required> fs: squashfs dev: /dev/loop0 label: N/A uuid: N/A
ID-4: /media/VTOYEFI raw size: 32.0 MiB size: 31.9 MiB (99.75%)
used: 12.0 MiB (37.4%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda2 label: VTOYEFI
uuid: ADB8-4480
Unmounted:
ID-1: /dev/dm-0 size: 1.17 GiB fs: <root required> label: N/A uuid: N/A
ID-2: /dev/sda1 size: 7.24 GiB fs: exfat label: Ventoy uuid: 4E21-0000
USB:
Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0002
Device-1: 1-4:2 info: Toshiba Kingston DataTraveler 102/2.0 / HEMA Flash
Drive 2 GB / PNY Attache 4GB Stick
type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 0930:6545 serial: 001CC0EC330FEB816605000A
Device-2: 1-8:3 info: Alcor Micro Flash Card Reader/Writer
type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 058f:6362 serial: 058F312D81B
Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
chip ID: 1d6b:0001
Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
chip ID: 1d6b:0001
Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
chip ID: 1d6b:0001
Sensors:
Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured?
Repos:
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://mirror.ufam.edu.br/mx/antix/buster buster main nonfree nosystemd
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Processes:
CPU top: 5
1: cpu: 34.5% command: xorg pid: 3302 mem: 47.3 MiB (4.8%)
2: cpu: 0.9% command: [rcu_sched] pid: 7 mem: 0.00 MiB (0.0%)
3: cpu: 0.6% command: slim pid: 3284 mem: 10.2 MiB (1.0%)
4: cpu: 0.6% command: conky pid: 3640 mem: 10.4 MiB (1.0%)
5: cpu: 0.5% command: [ksoftirqd/0] pid: 3 mem: 0.00 MiB (0.0%)
Memory top: 5
1: mem: 47.3 MiB (4.8%) command: xorg pid: 3302 cpu: 34.5%
2: mem: 26.0 MiB (2.6%) command: roxterm pid: 4081 cpu: 0.2%
3: mem: 25.5 MiB (2.6%) command: rox pid: 3558 cpu: 0.1%
4: mem: 16.4 MiB (1.6%) command: volumeicon pid: 3571 cpu: 0.0%
5: mem: 14.3 MiB (1.4%) command: fbxkb pid: 3591 cpu: 0.0%
Info:
Processes: 133 Uptime: 14m Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5
Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: roxterm
inxi: 3.0.36demo@antix1:~
$ lspci -v
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host (rev 11)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 661FX/M661FX/M661MX Host
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-sis00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AGP Port (virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 64
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=64
I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff
Memory behind bridge: dfe00000-dfefffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: cfd00000-dfcfffff
Kernel modules: shpchp00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] LPC Controller (rev 36)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
Kernel modules: i2c_sis63000:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 IDE Controller (rev 01) (prog-if 80 [ISA Compatibility mode-only controller, supports bus mastering])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 5513 IDE Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 16
I/O ports at 01f0
I/O ports at 03f4
I/O ports at 0170
I/O ports at 0374
I/O ports at ffa0
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: pata_sis00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC’97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. SiS7012 AC’97 Sound Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 18
I/O ports at e800
I/O ports at ec00
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: snd_intel8x0
Kernel modules: snd_intel8x000:03.0 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. USB 1.1 Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 20
Memory at dfff4000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Kernel driver in use: ohci-pci00:03.1 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. USB 1.1 Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 21
Memory at dfff5000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Kernel driver in use: ohci-pci00:03.2 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. USB 1.1 Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 22
Memory at dfff6000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Kernel driver in use: ohci-pci00:03.3 USB controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. USB 2.0 Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 23
Memory at dfff7000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci00:05.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA [SiS] (rev 01) (prog-if 85)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. RAID bus controller 180 SATA/PATA [SiS]
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 128, IRQ 17
I/O ports at eff0
I/O ports at efe4
I/O ports at efa8
I/O ports at efe0
I/O ports at ef90
I/O ports at 0000
Kernel driver in use: sata_sis00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter (rev 10)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. P5P800-MX Mainboard
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 19
I/O ports at e400
Memory at dfff3c00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
Capabilities: <access denied>
Kernel driver in use: 8139too
Kernel modules: 8139cp, 8139too01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. SiS Real 256E (ASUS P5S800-VM motherboard)
Flags: 66MHz, medium devsel, IRQ 11
BIST result: 00
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable)
Memory at dfee0000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
I/O ports at dc00
[virtual] Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [disabled]
Capabilities: <access denied>demo@antix1:~
$ cat /proc/cmdline
vga=0x0317 lang=pt_BR tz=America/Sao_Paulo quiet splasht disable=lxF xorg=safe
demo@antix1:~Hi,
how to install a full antix desktop from a core install?
is there a magicsudo apt install antix-desktop?I succeeded to install antix from the core iso burned on a CDrom (no boot from usb). I also failed to install a full antix desktop from the full iso burned on dvd.
thank you
- This topic was modified 2 years, 5 months ago by jeanpat.
I am working on a gateway essential 433c with 256mb. antix 16-b2.1 will boot normally and install fine, but nothing else will. I would like to install 17.4 on it. it will go through the boot prosess then after the login prompt, black screen. Te cd drive continues to run. This happens with every other iso i try. video is intel 82810. Can you help?
I just want to share my experiences for the benefit of other antiX users who might want to pursue a similar strategy.
The text is written for the real beginner, step by step and as detailed as possible, so the old-timer might feel a little impatient and bored while reading. But I’m sure he could amend some improvements of the workflow in the end.As I’ve stated elsewhere here in the forum, my final goal is to have the antiX system installed on the hdd of my notebook.
But what about the old, well oiled and fine tuned system installed on it? I prefer to keep it, since there are many helper programs installed, which I’ll probably won’t notice missing before I need one of them again, which then isn’t installed on the antiX system yet and then I could’nt remember its name, which causes me researching for some hours again.
Moreover there are some homebrew shellscripts for solving dedicated problems stored on it, which I also don’t remember exactly what and where, but if I need one, I’ll know: It has bin there and there.
From past times I remember, when dd-ing the complete hdd or partition two things will happen:
The resulting partition-images are not really handy, they need to be cut into parts, compressed to fit on a couple of DVD and I’ll probably never again have the diskspace to recreate and re-open them when I’d like to search them for a script or program I perfectly know I’ve had at hand for a special task in the old system. The second thing to happen is: Taking the before said into account, I will litter them, after having stored them for years without having any way to make use of them.
So this time I decided to manage things the another way around:
I want to move the complete existing system from hdd to an usb-stick, keeping it bootable and usable, just as antiX runs now from the stick. The roles will be changed after that. antiX will boot form hdd, and the old system will boot from the stick.I’ll repartition the hdd to current needs (it’s still partitioned as historically grown by successively installing
different operating systems, which means: a couple of pretty small partitions, in a crude order spread over the hdd. I’d prefer to make a clean cut and from now on use GPT instead of MBR, which should be possible even when this notebook does only provide BIOS, (no EFI). Then I’ll create one small (2 GiB) Boot partition, one 12GiB for / (root), one swap (4GB) and all the remaining space will be used for the /home partition. I’ll try to use Extlinux instead of grub now, the isolinux/syslinux bootprocess on antiX-live/persist has been convincing. And after these preliminaries I’ll finally install antiX in the newly created hdd structure. That is the line of approach.Back to the first step:
Exporting the complete system to a memory stick. Sounds easy, but there are some pitfalls. Sounds difficult on the other hand, but it isn’t really.First I had to prepare the USB-memory-stick. It is a cheap standard 64GB USB2/3 type, preformatted for use on Windows-systems. I’ll give a step by step explanation of the complete process just in case someone wants to undertake the same procedure before installing antiX.
(Make sure to use the fastest USB your PC provides. Some older models have USB 1.x and 2.0 both, and using the 1.0 only will slow things really down. Everything from 2.0 upwards should be ok, but it works even with 1.0, if you have no choice. You can check with lsusb as described below.)
Boot from antiX live-USB-Stick (or from CD/DVD). Don’t use a frugal install for this since it uses the hdd, possibly partitions you need to be untouched (unchanged) during the process.
Open a terminal (Menu–>Terminal), type “sudo su” and give your sudoer-password. (As you probably know, since it can be found in the antiX manuals, the standard PW for a non-persistent live system is “demo”.) Keep this terminal open until we’ve finished. Some people prefer to prefix every single command they key in with “sudo”. You can do it that way as well, omit simply the line “sudo su” and set sudo in front of each command instead.
hint:
– the “#” shows that you are in the role of “root” in that very moment, the command you key in is executed with root privileges.
– the “$” denotes that you are in simple user context and the commands are executed with the restricted privileges of the actual user.You’ll always find these marks in the terminal somewhere at the beginning of the commandline.
Don’t key in these signs, only the commands behind them.$ sudo su demo <--- sudoer pw in antiX live, key in when asked. # lsusb # lsblkExample Output of lsusb and lsblk (before pluging in the new stick):
# lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 090c:2000 Silicon Motion, Inc. - Taiwan <--after knowing which bus is capable of USB2.0 we can see antiX live stick is pluged in one of the proper slots already. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub <--here we have the USB2.0 Hub, look for which bus-Number it has Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2533 Pixart Imaging, Inc. <--this is an USB-mouse only, at one of the USB1.1 plugs. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub # lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT loop0 7:0 0 2,6G 1 loop /live/linux <- these two loop-entrys belong to the antiX live system. loop1 7:1 0 1,5G 0 loop /home it is *not* your home-partition on your hdd, it contains antiX user "demo". sda 8:0 0 93,2G 0 disk <--here starts the hdd ├─sda1 8:1 0 8G 0 part /media/_daten1 <--this is the primary partition, originally used by another OS, nowadays used as file-storage ├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part <--this is the extended partition (look at its size) ├─sda5 8:5 0 20G 0 part /media/_home <--this is the first logical partition within the extended partition ├─sda6 8:6 0 10G 0 part /media/_daten2 <--another partition previously used by an even older OS , now file-storage ├─sda7 8:7 0 42,5G 0 part /media/_daten3 <--this was preveously the home-partition of that even older OS, now file-storage ├─sda8 8:8 0 3G 0 part /media/_daten4 <--another historically grown partition now in use as file-storage. ├─sda9 8:9 0 2,2G 0 part [SWAP] <--this is the swap-partition of the old ubuntu system └─sda10 8:10 0 7,5G 0 part /media/sda10 <--this is actually the root partition of the old ubuntu system. sdb 8:16 1 29,5G 0 disk <--here starts the USB stick with antiX on it, even if it is named "disk" here. ├─sdb1 8:17 1 29,5G 0 part /live/boot-dev <--this is one of its partitions └─sdb2 8:18 1 50M 0 part /media/antiX-uefi <--and that is the other one. sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 rom <--finally we have a cd/dvd-drive.This PC has as well 1.x as 2.0 USB connectors, you’ll have to look for the description at the end of the line for the word “2.0 root hub” (or even higher) and then at the beginning of that line where is written the bus number, in this example it is bus 001. Now look for what else is connected to that very bus number. In this case there is a Bus001 Device 003, which is the Live antix USB stick. Nice to know it sits on USB2.0 bus also. On one of the USB 1.1 plugs you can see the mouse (Bus 002, Device 002 in my example)
The partition order and usage is a little confused, since it is historicaly grown ;). Never mind, it’ll work anyway, since the partitions used for file-storage don’t need to be transferred to the stick. They’ll get stored elsewhere later on to free up the harddrive completely, which will be a really easy job then. The concern for today is to move the existing OS to a stick from within antiX live and make it bootable at its new residence.
Plug in the fresh USB-Stick. key in again:
# lsusb # lsblkExample output (after pluging new stick):
#lsusb Bus 001 Device 003: ID 090c:2000 Silicon Motion, Inc. - Taiwan Bus 001 Device 004: ID 058f:6387 Alcor Micro Corp. Flash Drive <--the new USB-stick, connected also to USB2.0 capable slot. Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 002 Device 002: ID 093a:2533 Pixart Imaging, Inc. Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub #lsblk NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT loop0 7:0 0 2,6G 1 loop /live/linux loop1 7:1 0 1,5G 0 loop /home sda 8:0 0 93,2G 0 disk ├─sda1 8:1 0 8G 0 part /media/_daten1 ├─sda2 8:2 0 1K 0 part ├─sda5 8:5 0 20G 0 part /media/_home ├─sda6 8:6 0 10G 0 part /media/antiX ├─sda7 8:7 0 42,5G 0 part /media/_daten3 ├─sda8 8:8 0 3G 0 part /media/_daten4 ├─sda9 8:9 0 2,2G 0 part [SWAP] └─sda10 8:10 0 7,5G 0 part /media/sda10 sdb 8:16 1 29,5G 0 disk ├─sdb1 8:17 1 29,5G 0 part /live/boot-dev └─sdb2 8:18 1 50M 0 part /media/antiX-uefi sdc 8:32 1 58,6G 0 disk <--here we are! └─sdc1 8:33 1 58,6G 0 part /media/sdc1-usb-Generic_Flash_Di <--and this is the (empty) partition the manufacturer has put on it. sr0 11:0 1 1024M 0 romAfter plugging the new stick to an USB-connector, it should better be also located at bus 001, since we know by now this is the one which provides USB2.0 in this case. If not, try another plug and restart this procedure.
The Plugs aren’t to distinguish optically from outside. You’ll have to adapt the concept to what you will find at your PC, maybe you even find USB3.0Compare the output of the first with the second lsblk command. The enty which hasn’t been present there before is the devicename of the USB-stick for now (It will be changed when you plug it later again, depending on what else drives you have pluged in which order before, it might be /dev/sdd or /dev/sde then). You can clearly see the new device sdc in the example output, which refers to the drive as a whole, and the device sdc1 which is the partition, it has only one in this case, otherwise there would be entrys like sdc2 sdc3 and so on. These new entries are what we are looking for.
Write down:
/dev/sdc (for sdc, the drive) and
/dev/sdc1 (for sdc1, the partition).
(This is an example from my setup only, you’ll have to write down what you get from your own screen).These are the folders in your system where the programs can find and address that very drive and its partition(s).
It is absolutely important to be sure about which device you want to address later, since any mistake in these names will probably result in complete erasing another drive unwantingly! Don’t plug off or on anything before having gone through the following procedure completely, hence this might change these names in your system with all conseqences.Now start from the antiX main menue the program “gparted”:
Menu–>Programs–>Systemtools
(or just type in the root console window “gparted&”, the ampersand is not a typo! it lets you work on at the console while the program is still running.)At the upper right corner of gparted program window choose the “Drive” you just have found.
+++ WATCH OUT: A fault in choosing the correct drive here will delete your data without return!
– remove all the partitions on that drive (and only on that one)
– start the execution, wait until it is done.Maybe you get a warning, the partitions were just in use, since they probably have been mounted automatically while plugging on the stick. In this case you’ll have to unmount before proceeding: Key in your root terminal window from above:
# umount /dev/sdc1You can check whether you have successfuly unmounted the device completely by typing
# mount |grep "sdc"The answer of this command needs getting used to a little, since you are done when it doesn’t answer anything. If it comes up with something, you haven’t been successfull still.
Or just let all this be done by the drive-unmounter from the antiX taskbar. Now the deletion of the partition in gparted should complete without complaints.Next in the gparted window create new Partitions, according to your old system on the hdd:
1.) 1x Primary, ext 4, Name: “/”, Size as required, but bigger (or at least same size) than that partition containig the root-filesystem on your hdd, in my case this was 7,5GiB, I’ve chosen 10GiB which is 10240MiB (gparted asks for MiB)
2.) 1x Extended (size: all the rest of the Drive)
3.) 1x Logical, within the Extended one. ext4 also, named “/home”. Size may take the complete remains of the drive, as you like. At least it must have the size of the /home partition of your old system on hdd.
(at this point you’ll have to add more logical partitions if your old system you want to transfer requires them, name them as they are named in the old system. You can
get the correct names by keying in “blkid” in the still opened root-terminal from above.)
(Swap partition will not be created on this SDD, one can create this later, but there will be probably be always a swap partition on your hdd you can use, so you don’t really need one on the thumbdrive.)
If you’d like to make the system on the thumbdrive running a little faster, just read this text concerning a correct allignment of your new partitions: (Partition Alignment detailed explanation)
But it will work anyway, even without a correct alignment. Moreover I’m nearly sure gparted in the antiX version I’ve been using would manage this in the correct way automatically for you.– start the execution, wait until is done.
– Set the Flag “boot” on primary partition.
Close the program gparted, as we don’t need it anymore, but let the root-console window still open.
- This topic was modified 2 years, 5 months ago by Robin. Reason: fix some typos
- This topic was modified 2 years, 5 months ago by Robin. Reason: tiny amendment
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