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[Member PPC]

Hi! I thought that I would not contribute to this thread… but hey, I could not resist, after Wallon’s posts:

1) and 6) Installing Gnome was always possible – its available in our Package Installer in 2 version- Gnome and Gnome-core. I think I never tried to install it, but if Packainstaller does not misfire (as it does sometimes in antiX 21) it should be a piece of cake to install any of these 2 versions…
4) Yep some window management tasks are easier in D.E.’s (like Gnome, KDE, XFCE) than in W.M. (like ICewm/jwm/fluxbox)- I like the “auto snap” feature you mentioned, but IceWM is not that far behind, just not as user friendly (Right click the Window’s title > Tiling > select where you want to place the Window) or antiX’s very own psedo-tiling features ( ctrl + shift + 1 or 2 places the window on the left half or the right half of the screen… so same effect, different way to get there… Check out all the tiling options!

5) No screen tearing – thankfully I never had that problem in antiX- but running a screen compositor (like compton or picom) “should” fix it, costing a few hundreds of kb of free RAM…

As for the rest of Wallon’s conclusions- the beauty if Open Source OS, like antiX is how flexible it is… Currently FT10 is an attempt to offer some of the “bells ans whistles” D.E’s have, all from antiX default Window Managers, (even saving a little RAM or spending a couple hundred of kb more than some of antiX’s default desktops)- it offers easy configuration of a compositor too, real time window previews, etc- one thing that I could not be implemented was the “auto snaping” of Windows- but keyboard savyy users can get the same result with the keybingings and less keyboard prone users, with right clicking the title bar and using the Tiling menu- yes, it’s a couple more of extra steps, but you save a lot on system resources!

To be honest my desktop computers (1 at home, 1 at my office) both run antiX- but with 4 and 3 gig of RAM I could run most any other Linux OS…
If antiX with Gnome or KDE work for any user and you enough system resources, go for it! Be happy and/or productive with your choices!

PS: I tried Enlightenment in antiX a while ago- very beautiful interface and ease of use… but I still like antiX IceWM + FT10 better …

P.

[Moderator caprea]

Hi to-the-moon, it worked on antiX19 (Debian buster) to install the network-manager, but Debian removed the service init script for network-manager on Debian bullseye (antiX21).
Might possible to copy the /etc/init.d/network-manager script from an antiX19 version to antiX21.
See here
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-19-1-core-kde-plasma-build-series/#post-39312
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/amd64/network-manager/filelist
https://packages.debian.org/buster/amd64/network-manager/filelist

What are your reasons not to use one of the wifi options offered in antiX21, ceni or connman ?

[Member blur13]

Try to install anything KDE related and you pull in a whole host of dependencies. I was thinking of giving KDE connect a try..

sudo apt install kdeconnect
Reading package lists… Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information… Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
kactivities-bin kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools kde-cli-tools-data keditbookmarks kio kpackagelauncherqml kwayland-data
kwayland-integration libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libfakekey0 libhfstospell10 libkf5activities5 libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data
libkf5auth5 libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5calendarevents5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5
libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5 libkf5config-bin libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5
libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-bin libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5
libkf5declarative-data libkf5declarative5 libkf5doctools5 libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data
libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5 libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5iconthemes-bin libkf5iconthemes-data
libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5idletime5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5
libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5 libkf5kiogui5 libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5
libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts-plugins libkf5parts5 libkf5plasma5
libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5pty-data libkf5pty5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data libkf5service5
libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5
libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5wallet-bin libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5waylandclient5
libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5windowsystem-data libkf5windowsystem5 libkf5xmlgui-bin
libkf5xmlgui-data libkf5xmlgui5 libkwalletbackend5-5 libkworkspace5-5 libphonon4qt5-4 libpolkit-qt5-1-1
libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5 libqt5quickwidgets5 libqt5script5 libqt5texttospeech5
libqt5waylandclient5 libqt5waylandcompositor5 libvoikko1 libxcb-composite0 libxcb-damage0 media-player-info phonon4qt5
phonon4qt5-backend-vlc plasma-framework qml-module-org-kde-kconfig qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols
qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects qml-module-qtqml-models2
qml-module-qtquick-controls qml-module-qtquick-controls2 qml-module-qtquick-dialogs qml-module-qtquick-layouts
qml-module-qtquick-privatewidgets qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2 qml-module-qtquick2
qtwayland5 sonnet-plugins

[Member ModdIt]

Seems the QT dependancy problem has been around on and off for years.
The offending library is a virtual package within libqt5core5a.

Below quick and effective dirty hack found on a KDE Neon page and
updated, it gets things working, up to now I see no untoward effects.
That is not a garantee. :-)…
Users should keep a copy of changes made just in case it is needed later.
Easy to remove any packages as long as console access is available. AND
you know what to remove.
That is generaly applicable.

Better fix needed upstream, this is more an easily reverted workaround.
This time I have not posted a bug report, last one left me with an
unusable EMail account to to massive spam. EMail is openly displayed
with the bug report.

#!/bin/bash

$(mkdir -p ./qtbase-abi-5-15-4-fix/DEBIAN)
echo 'Package: qtbase-abi-5-15-4-fix
Version: 1.0
Section: custom
Priority: optional
Provides: qtbase-abi-5-15-4
Depends: libqt5core5a
Architecture: amd64
Essential: no
Installed-Size: 0
Maintainer: custom
Description: Fix lack of qtbase-abi-5-15-4 in antiX21 sid
' > ./qtbase-abi-5-15-4-fix/DEBIAN/control

dpkg-deb --build ./qtbase-abi-5-15-4-fix

sudo dpkg -i ./qtbase-abi-5-15-4-fix.deb

RE INSTALL: Torbrowser-launcher

$ sudo apt install torbrowser-launcher
Paketlisten werden gelesen… Fertig
Abhängigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut… Fertig
Statusinformationen werden eingelesen… Fertig
Die folgenden zusätzlichen Pakete werden installiert:
libpython3.10 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libqt5test5 python3-gpg python3-packaging
python3-pyparsing python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip
Vorgeschlagene Pakete:
python-pyparsing-doc apparmor
Empfohlene Pakete:
tor
Die folgenden NEUEN Pakete werden installiert:
libpython3.10 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libqt5test5 python3-gpg python3-packaging
python3-pyparsing python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip torbrowser-launcher
0 aktualisiert, 10 neu installiert, 0 zu entfernen und 0 nicht aktualisiert.

Subsequent full-upgrade gave no warnings. No more held packages.

• This reply was modified 7 months, 1 week ago by ModdIt.

[Member Xaver]

So far I have not thought about getting rid of dbus too. Inspired by this thread I have done some research.
Dbus seems to be a severe security risk: https://vulmon.com/searchpage?q=dbus&sortby=byriskscore

Therefore I have checked, if my antiX-21-runit-sid (no elogind, polkitd policykit-1 or gvfs) would run without dbus too.
[compare: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-21-net-runit-sid_x64-with-seatd-3-problems-encoutered/ ]

First step was do put the runit debus service down. But this did not change much. dbus-daemon and dbus-launch were still running after reboot. Then I simulated a purge of dbus-daemon and dbus-x11:

# apt purge -s dbus-daemon dbus-x11

This would deinstall all xorg and most of my system – obviously not a good idea.

dbus-daemon and dbus-launch are running independently from the runit dbus service. How can I stop them.?
I have used a quite brutal method: disable them by changing their names:

renamed in /usr/bin/
dbus-launch –> dbus-launch_X
dbus-run-session –> dbus-run-session_X
dbusdaemon –> dbusdaemon_X 
then:
# apt-mark hold dbus dbus-daemon dbus-x11

Now no dbus is running, but all the dependencies to it are fufilled. Most software can be installed.
If needed, I can easily switch back to dbus.

What are the limitations?
Connman had to be replaced by Ceni. XFCE4-panel would not start (too bad – nice panel apps). Plank does work, but cannot be configured. Concerning the openbox desktop these are all the limitations which I have discovered so far.
My desktop consists of openbox, tint2, rofi, wmdrawer (a good and lighter replacement for plank) and spacefm (gtk2-version) with udevil.
Jgmenu does work fine too, but I prefer the openbox menu configured with obmenu2.
Login only works with .xinitrc – lxdm does not work.

Poweroff/Reboot with desktop-session-exit does not work regularly. I have to logout first and then shut down:

$ bash -c "openbox --exit && sudo poweroff"

Since polkitd is absent, there are dummies needed to fulfill policykit dependencies.
For that I have created and installed two dummies: policykit-1_99.9.9-9dummy and libpolkit-qt5-1-1_99.9.9-9dummy.
Most application can be installed now, even KDE stuff. But k3b cannot be installed, because it needs libsystemd0 and udisks2, which needs dbus.

Iso snapshot and persist do not show any problems.
Firefox-ESR and even Falkon are working fine and seem to be faster than on my antix-sysv-sid with dbus.
The whole system is a fully functional antiX and semms to be very fast and stable.

Only a few questions are still unresolved:

(1) Is there a more elegant way to keep dbus-daemon and dbus-launch from running than by renaming them?

(2) If I boot an iso-snapshot from usb, there is no network connection. I have to run Ceni in order to connect. Which setting have I missed?

(3) @ anticapitalista
You have stated, that LXDM would work without dbus. I get an error message:
[“Warning: dbus disabled by local settings”]
What is your trick to make LXDM work?

(4) lightdm gave me a hard time to deinstall it (pre-install script error). ‘dpkg-reconfigure lxdm’ still lists lightdm as an option. Where is this stored?

(5) Running from usb I sometimes notice high cpu load, when the system should be idle. The cause: lxtask indicates multiple instances of udevd. A restart of udevd service and then starting udevd again brings the system back to normal.
Research in the web clarfies, that this is a general udevd problem.
Is there any general cure?

• This reply was modified 9 months ago by Xaver.
• This reply was modified 9 months ago by Xaver.
• This reply was modified 9 months ago by Xaver.

Hi all!

I’ve been enjoying AntiX on my old PackardBell netbook for more than a year now, and it’s so satisfying playing with it that I almost prefer it to my brand new Ryzen7 Thinkpad XD

Well, AntiX is known for taking some old lightweight apps and giving them a longer life, so I think this is the right place to post this one.

As a Mahjongg fan, I think good old XMahjongg is a kind of a forgotten gem. Sure it lacks some important playing features, like score and timing, and the interface is as minimal as it can be, but it can handle almost ANY tileset format (kyoday, old gnome and kde and the native one), it’s blazing fast and it can look awesome with some simple command-line customisation (see attached screenshots).

I think it would be a neat idea to revive it and package a new improved version, while retaining its footprint and speed as close to the present ones as possible.

I’ve converted and organised as many (good) tilesets as I could find on the Internet (including archive.org… many have become inaccessible, sadly…), and I’ve set up a (very) quick and dirty script on my machine to configure it using Zenity, but unfortunately I’m not a programmer and I can’t go further.
I’ve also tried modifying the included (guns-n-roses-themed) icons but after recompiling I get an unusable interface without any icon, so for some reason simply substituting the .gif files won’t work.
Who’s willing to join the enterprise? 😀

To do list:
– get rid of the guns-n-roses gifs for something more modern (ok this is personal…)
– find a practical, lightweigh, GUI way to choose and remember tilesets, backgrounds and layouts
– add basic support for timed playing and hall of fame
– add support for pngs both for icons and for tilesets (not strictly needed but it would be great)

Attachments:

1. 

   xmahjongg01.png
   

2. 

   xmahjongg02.png
   

So apt-get wanted to..

Upgrade:
gconf-gsettings-backend libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-common libgtk-3-bin

& then it autoremoved this (or partially tried).

Remove:
add-desktop-antix add-key-antix antix-goodies app-select-antix arandr at-spi2-core
audacious audacity automount-antix avahi-daemon bamfdaemon blueman bluetooth bluez
brave-browser celluloid cherrytree chromium chromium-l10n claws-mail
claws-mail-i18n claws-mail-pdf-viewer claws-mail-pgpinline claws-mail-pgpmime
claws-mail-smime-plugin claws-mail-tools clearlooks-phenix-theme clipit cmst code
connman control-centre-antix darktable dbus dbus-daemon dbus-x11
dconf-gsettings-backend dconf-service desktop-defaults-antix desktop-menu-antix
desktop-session-antix ds-mouse-antix elogind file-roller firefox-esr flatpak
galculator galternatives gconf2 geany gexec gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-handy-1 gksu
glib-networking gnome-bluetooth gnome-disk-utility gnome-mahjongg gparted grsync
grubcc-antix gsettings-desktop-schemas gstreamer1.0-plugins-good guvcview ibus
ibus-data inkscape inxi-gui-antix ipp-usb kinit kio libappstream-glib8
libayatana-appindicator3-1 libayatana-ido3-0.4-0 libayatana-indicator3-7
libcanberra-gtk3-0 libcolord-gtk1 libexo-2-0 libgksu2-0 libgnome-bluetooth13
libgspell-1-2 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-0:i386 libgtk-3-bin libgtk-3-common libgtk-4-1
libgtk-4-common libgtkmm-3.0-1v5 libgtksourceview-3.0-1 libgtksourceviewmm-3.0-0v5
libhandy-1-0 libkf5authcore5 libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5configwidgets5
libkf5declarative5 libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiogui5
libkf5kiowidgets5 libkf5parts5 libkf5purpose-bin libkf5purpose5 libkf5quickaddons5
libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5wallet-bin libkf5xmlgui5 libnautilus-extension1a
libokular5core10 libosmgpsmap-1.0-1 libostree-1-1 libpam-elogind libplank-common
libplank1 libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libreoffice-gtk3 libsoup-3.0-0 libsoup2.4-1
libvte-2.91-0 libwebkit2gtk-4.1-0 libwnck-3-0 libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 libxfce4ui-2-0
libxfconf-0-3 locale-antix mirage notify-osd okular palemoon pdfarranger pkexec
plank policykit-1 polkitd qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons
qt5-gtk-platformtheme screenlight-antix screenshot-antix set-dpi-antix
set-screen-blank-antix simple-scan streamlight-antix synaptic
system-config-printer system-config-printer-common transmission-gtk udisks2
vivaldi-stable wallpaper-antix waterfox-current-kpe xfburn xfconf yad zenity zoom

Anyways, apt-get can no longer install things because all DNS now fail to resolve.

Is there a way to fix this without reinstalling everything?

I saw about maybe using wget to manually reinstall apt, but then it crashed & now I can’t even login.

Guess I just need to manually look over every single autoremove in the future instead of just scripting -y on it.

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• This topic was modified 9 months, 3 weeks ago by PenguinGuy.
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[Member melodie]

Merci pour votre dernière réponse, car comme d’habitude nous ne ferons jamais les mêmes installes pour Bento antix que dérivé de Debian stable avec virtualbox!

antiX ≠ Debian

Votre preuve de l’installe réussie se fait dans cette capture d’écran avec la fléché rouge qui montre qu’il faut ouvrir ce fichier. Apparemment c’est dans ce fichier que pourrait être installé dans sa partition créée bento antix ?

Ce n’est pas une preuve, c’est pour vous montrer comment faire pour lancer l’éditeur de partitions Gparted. Et ce n’est pas un fichier, c’est un lanceur : pour lancer Gparted.

Vous avez vu que lorsqu’on lance l’installeur il ne demande pas de mot de passe. Quand vous cliquez sur ce bouton, vous lancerez Gparted sans qu’un mot de passe vous soit demandé. Essayez avant de questionner ?

Pour qu’enfin cet OS sera installé a sa place et pourra être lancé au restart de ma tour Medion de 11 ans d’age !

À la place de quoi ? Vous n’êtes pas clair !

J’ai testé et tenter de l’installer avec un CD-DVD gravure de bento antix reéchec et aussi avec la clé USB dans laquelle se trouve bento antix idem pour l’échec avec un fenêtre ou l’on voit 4/5 options dont des sda et sdb?? Je suppose que c’est dans et options avec cette fenêtre que devrait être installé bento antix ?

Êtes-vous sûr que votre lecteur CD/DVD lit les CD correctement ou même que votre CD a été gravé correctement ? Avec quel logiciel l’avez-vous gravé ? À quelle vitesse ?

Avec quoi avez-vous préparé votre clé USB ? Êtes-vous sûr que votre port USB est en bon état, que les données passent correctement ? À quel stade rencontrez-vous un échec ? À quoi ressemble l’erreur ?

Pour ce qui est de debian, mais avant, avec les versions Debian 7,8,9 et aujourd’hui j’ai plusieurs OSs basés sur Debian 10 buster et Debian 11 bulleye dont celle ci: que j’ai nommé “cacatoes” qui est l’OS Q4OS 64bits KDE plasma5 .
Étant le seul utilisateur de ma machine, je ne me vois pas être obligé de rester avec la nomination correcte de chaque installation…
C’est pourquoi je vais moi-même interrompre ces tentatives d’installes de bento antix avec splendide échecs , en remerciant les aides temporaires 😉

Les installeurs de Debian, de Ubuntu, et de antiX ne sont pas les même, de même que ceux d’autres distributions sont encore différents. Si vous essayez Fedora, CentOS, Mageïa, vous aurez des chances de voir un installeur qui se ressemble de l’une à autre, mais qui ne ressemble pas du tout à ceux de Debian and co.

Je concluerai en vous posant une question : quelqu’un vous a-t-il déjà conseillé de lire ce texte, afin de savoir poser des questions de la bonne manière ? https://www.gnurou.org/writing/smartquestionsfr/

Le texte original en anglais, par l’auteur, Eric S. Raymond : http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

[Member puter]

Tried antix 19.5 x64 core, I have the same issue there too.

One thing I didn’t mention previously is that I need to run the installer in failsafe mode (on 19 and 20) as it wont run in the regular mode. That wouldn’t affect the installed OS though would it?

anticapitalista wrote:

Let us know your repos, just in case there is an issue there.


Repos:
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/bullseye bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list


anticapitalista wrote:

You might need to install xserver-xorg-legacy and set it up.
You might want to install a login manager as well eg slimski

I get an error regarding slimski failing when at cli login screen:


Starting slimski: slimski failed!

startpar: service(s) returned failure: slimski ... failed!


It’s not vital to have KDE as the DE, that is the one I’ve used the most in the past (was an older version) and most comfortable using, so that is the one I tried first. Some other DEs I’m not fond of using. At this point I’d be happy just to get any DE working.

[Member olsztyn]

anticapitalista wrote:

I found it easier to install xorg first and openbox, then install kde plasma within X and then use runit-service-manager (needs to be installed) before rebooting.
All seems to be working as it should with sddm (shudder) as login manager.

In my case installation of KDE Plasma was much simpler as I started from antiX Runit Full, not Core. No these additional steps were needed.
Although antiX KDE Plasma appears to work perfectly fine in my case, I fail to notice any particular incremental value in KDE Plasma vs. JWM or IceWM. Just useless (IMHO) fluff and no incremental substance in addition to what is already provided in antiX.
However for those users who for some reason like KDE Plasma DE better than JWM or IceWM or Fluxbox, this conversion of antiX default to KDE Plasma appears to be a quick way to have this KDE and not lose any of those great assets built into antiX, not found any place else… So I am still playing with this KDE antiX to have a complete picture…

• This reply was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by olsztyn.

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

Thanks for testing @olsztyn

I tried again and got much further with antiX-21-core-runit.
I found it easier to install xorg first and openbox, then install kde plasma within X and then use runit-service-manager (needs to be installed) before rebooting.
All seems to be working as it should with sddm (shudder) as login manager.

BTW – KDE users should be aware of telemetry built into it though I think Debian’s version removes it.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

Yeah, @christophe:, while your method may not be the ONLY way to get there, I think that your method, including the –install-recommends option as you installed the VM and the key KDE-Plasma software, is a safe and reliable method. Had it NOT worked, I would have been surprised, and I would have suspected either defective hardware or software. Since your experiment DID, in fact work, I would suggest that those who want to create their own customized instance, (whether with KDE or some other personalized set-up), the steps are clear, similar to what you did, noted (perhaps even on paper), so that in the event of an issue, there is a “paper trail” that can be replicated in order to locate, isolate, and correct any issues that may arise.

Around a decade, maybe 12-14 years ago now, I took a simple antiX Core installation and put a basic, simple, fairly minimal Xfce desktop around it. So I had the lean, basic antiX beneath it, a capable desktop environment, but it wasn’t jammed full of gigabytes of software, it had only the essential X server, window manager, file manager, and primary desktop environment components, 1-2 text editors, file managers, and Web browsers, and the package management tools; that was it. That system was remarkably similar, but slightly simpler, than the very first instance of what later became MX Linux. I was NOT a contributor to that project, but my similar effort predated theirs by 2-4 years; mine was probably created somewhere between 2007-2009, maybe a year or two earlier, and lived on in a few other instances I created later.

I also remember remastering old versions of MEPIS. The default systems came with KDE back then; a few people used to remaster MEPIS with XFCE, LXDE, or some other configuration; I used to do that too, and my instances looked similar to what I did with antiX Core.

I’ve worked with VM instances from time to time, but I most commonly build my custom versions and remastered images with spare systems or extra disk partitions on the systems I’m using or remastered on removable USB devices.

--
Brian Masinick

[Moderator christophe]

OK. 🙂

So, I installed it into a virtualbox VM. I have to say that it did work perfectly.
This is what I did:

1. Used the antiX-21 core x64 ISO. I booted up into a fresh virtualbox VM, 11 GB vdi for hard disk. I logged in as root. First thing I did was to run:
apt update followed by apt full-upgrade

2. I partitioned the virtual hdd — 10 GB ext & 1 GB swap. (Maybe there’s an easier way to do it, but (for some reason) the console font was HUGE.I couldn’t see the screen well – it was cut off on both sides. Maybe just my old computer. Anyway, I couldn’t figure out what to do, except to reach way back in my memory how to run ‘fdisk /dev/sda’. After it was partitioned & written to disk, I ran ‘mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda1’, to format it. Again, let me just say, that maybe there’s an easier way. But it did the job.)

3. Then I ran the cli-installer. That went easily, as expected. (At the point in the installation where it asks, I took care to adjust the console font to terminusbold at 8×14, and that fixed it to a viewable size.)

4. Once the installer completed, I rebooted. After login, I ran:
sudo apt install --install-recommends kde-standard virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-guest-utils

5. Once that concluded, I ran
sudo reboot

6. When the VM came back up, it went straight to the SDDM login screen. (Ta-Daaa!) I was able to log in.

So that’s the reason I tried to give as much detail as possible. Because it was basically the same as the video.

EDIT: If you think the problem stems from partitioning/formatting the virtual hdd prior to installing, I’ve figured out the easier (“intended”) way to do it. 🙂

If you have questions, please ask.

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[Moderator christophe]

Well, unless someone else may have an idea off-hand, I will endeavor to make a kde live-usb starting from antiX-21 core.
And hopefully I will be able figure out where the trouble lies, and how to fix it. 🙂

confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

How to test (and possibly install) antiX Linux, if you are a Windows user:

This is not the ideal place to present this how-to, because if you are reading this, you probably already are using antiX, but here it goes (you can show this text to someone that is curious about Linux or thinking about installing antiX, or that guy that is still running Windows XP on a laptop from the Stone Age)

**Some general notions:

-What is Linux?
Linux (technically, you should say GNU Linux) is used to refer to any Operating System that runs the Linux Kernel.

-What is an Operating System?
An Operating System (OS for short) is the software that runs you computer and allows you to interface with it. Picture this: your computer is just a piece of hardware, like your TV. Without the Software to tell your hardware what to do, it’s useless, like a TV not plugged to anything. In this analogy, the Operating System is like the TV programming that you can see – you can only use a TV when it’s connected to something (cable, an antenna, a box, a console, etc). Just like you can only use a Computer when it has an Operating System.

-Is Linux just like Windows?
They both are O.S.. You know of lots of O.S. already, even if you think you don’t- you know Windows (probably only Windows 10 and 11, if you are young, but there are lots of versions). Mac’s use their own O.S. – MacOS. Mobile devices use their own O.S.- android devices (phones, tablets, smart TV’s and smart TV boxes, even some e-book readers, like the Kindle Fire) use Android, Iphones and Ipads use IOS, old Nokia phones used Symbian OS, etc…
Linux is an OS, just like Windows is, but it has a few differences:
I mentioned Windows 10 and 11, and each one of these systems has Home and Pro versions- that makes 4 different Windows versions, right? But Microsoft still has Windows 8 (with Home and Pro versions). That’s 6 versions. You probably don’t know that each of those Windows also offers an Enterprise edition- so there are 9 different Windows versions (there are more than that, but there’s no need to get into more details).

Linux? Linux has hundreds of Versions. Yes. I’m not exaggerating- many hundreds of versions. Each of those versions is called a Linux Distribution (Distro for short)
There are a few Linux “families”, from which many Distros derive from. One of the most used “families” is Debian. But there’s also Arch, Suse, Red Hat, and more.
You probably never heard about Debian. But if you ever heard about Linux, you probably heard about Ubuntu, or Linux Mint or MX Linux. Those “Distros” are based in Debian. In fact Ubuntu is based in Debian and Mint is based in Ubuntu. And there are Distros based in Mint…

And while each Windows version (8, 10 and 11) has it’s own User Interface (UI), Linux has many possible interfaces.
There are Desktop Environments (DE) – that include most of what the user perceives as the OS- the window management system, the toolbar, the menu system, the notification system, the video compositor, the log-in manager, the application “store”, etc. Some examples of the most used DE’s are KDE, Gnome and XFCE… But there are also OS that don’t waste system resources running a complete DE, but use only (floating) Window Managers (WM) – different programs that draw and manage the windows of everything the user sees in the OS. Some examples of floating Window Managers are Fluxbox, IceWM, JWM (antiX includes all three of them) and Openbox. Another option are Tilling Window Managers (like Herbstluftwm, that antiX also includes)- that usually open windows either in full screen or in some predefined or manually selected size (ex: half screen, a quarter of the screen, etc), to maximize the usage of screen real-state, and usually are keyboard driven…
DE’s and WM’s are flexible and can be configured to look just like anything – they can be made to resemble (or “clone”) Windows 98, Windows XP, Windows 10, Windows 11, different versions of MacOS, Android, some mix of those interfaces or something completely new and never seen before…
That’s why almost no two Linux distros look exactly the same…
Programs are installed in the different Linux “families” (not the exact term)- Debian, Arch, Red Hat, Void Linux, using different Packaging… Debian (and Ubuntu and antiX) for example, packages software in .deb packages. Windows packages software in .msi packages…
Packages in one file format usually can’t be installed in a Distro that uses a different packaging system (ex: a .rpm package can’t be installed in a Debian system, like antiX).
There are also some universal file packages- like appimages, flatpaks and snaps (snaps are not compatible with antiX), meant to run in almost every possible Linux System… Appimages are the Linux equivalent of portable applications, in Windows (one single compressed and self extracting file that includes almost everything the application needs to run).

So… Is Linux just like Windows?… it can be, or it can be something completely different…
Also despite applications made for a system not being compatible with a different system, Linux has software that allows it to run many applications made exclusively for Windows – WINE and Proton (that is derived from WINE and meant to run Windows only games in Linux). Currently Proton allows Linux users to play thousands of games made for Windows. Wine allows some Windows only applications (even including versions of MS Office and Photoshop) to run in Linux, although sometimes not perfectly…
Almost 100% of DOS software can run in Linux using an emulator called DosBox ( included, out of the box in antiX Full).

-Why are there so many Linux Distributions?
Because Linux is not just free (hell, Windows 10 and 11 are usually “free”, you can use unlicensed- and limited versions- for private use and MS will do nothing against you, even if you are not exactly complying with their User License Agreement)… Linux is Open Source – that means that it’s code is publicly available- that you can do what you want with it (according to different Open Source Licenses), copy it, change it, adapt it to do what you want, usually the only drawback is that the end result of those changes has to also use the same Open Source licenses.
So, when someone needed an OS to manage a Server, a Linux Distro was created for that…
Do you need an OS that is meant to be just a media player, to stream audio and video? a Linux Distro was made for that…
So you need an OS that is free and looks just like Windows 98? A Linux Distro was made for that too…
And you want an OS that looks just like Windows 10 or 11? You guessed it, there are Linux Distros that do that…
And you want a MacOS clone? There are Linux Distros like that…
Do you want to use your computer mainly for gaming, like a Console- just turn on the computer and access your games? There are Linux Distros for that…
Are you Russian? Or Chinese? Or Korean? Or Portuguese?… and want an OS tailored for your particular language and needs? Those Linux Distros already exist!
Are you an “Anna Montana” fan and want an OS just around that? Someone created one such Linux Distro…
Do you have a computer that is old and want to keep it working? Someone made a Linux Distro like that. Several, in fact. One of them, and the best, in my particular opinion, is antiX Linux. antiX is a GNU Linux Operating System based on Debian (antiX 21 is based on Debian 11)-

-Why use antiX?
antiX was made to keep very old computers still useful. Even computers that are 20 years old (or even more) can be used to navigate web pages, stream YouTube videos, listen to music, view videos, read e-books or pdf’s, use office suites (that are extremely compatible with Ms Office), write/read e-mails, use instant messaging services, play casual games, play vintage DOS and Windows games, etc…
And if extremely old computers can run antiX, most extremely modern computer can too. Picture this: you can have a computer with a single core CPU, and less than 1gb of RAM that allows you to navigate the Web using a modern browser, have a word processor open and listen to radio/mp3 files, and have a File Manager running, and a Solitaire card game running and still have free RAM. Modern Windows OS need more than 1gb of RAM just to simply run the system itself…
And if you can run all that with a single CPU and less than 1 gb of RAM, if you are running antiX on a system with more than 1 CPU and more than 1gb of RAM, those resources are free to be used to perform any task you need.
Linux is not really magic, not even antiX – it can’t make a 20 years old computer play the latest Tomb Raider game in full HD, at 60 frames per second… That requires simply more processing power than that device has. But you can use antiX on a computer that is over 10 years old and use the modern Web. Do you know what runs on the modern web? Streaming Games Platforms, like Google Stadia and Xbox. If your computer has resources enough to run those webpages, then you *can* play the latest Tomb Raider, almost like you were using a latest generation gaming console.
You can use antiX for work- if you work on-line (using on-line office suites, etc)- you can use probably the crappiest 64bits computer with at least 1gb of RAM (if your computer has more than 1 CPU core and more than 1 gb of RAM, it’s a safe bet that you can run anything the modern Web throws at you, at least at the time I’m writing this), and most existing Linux applications.
You can use streaming video services like Netflix (if your computer is running a 64bits antiX version, because Google, that provides the software that allows browser to access DRM streaming video has blocked 32bits Linux OS from using it, on the latest upgrade).
If your computer has enough resources you can even play thousands of Windows only games- some running better than in Windows it self.
If you need a particular piece of software that can run on Linux, then you have no need to use any other OS.
Also, because the Linux source code is Open Source – any bugs or frailties it may have, tend to be patched faster than in closed sources OS- there are thousands of programmers looking at (“inspecting”) the Linux source code- some are criminals, looking for something they can exploit… but for every criminal there are many honest persons that report and problem and help fix it. Also, in an Open Source OS, people do know what the system is doing… How can you know, for example, if your system is logging every single character you type, or sending every single web site you visit to a server somewhere? Well, on a closed source system, you never know (unless someone with inside knowledge or gathering info from indirect means, like monitoring network connections, warns the public), but on the Open Source world, someone, sooner rather than later, catches on to what the code is doing and rings the alarm in no time – so Open Source software tends not only to have more Security but also to be more Privacy respecting. Even if a particular Open Source application does not respect your privacy, someone will pick up it’s source code and create a new, more privacy respecting version of the same application… (a new version of an application, based on it’s source code but with a different name is called a “fork“, and it happens all the time, in the Open Source World, and for many reasons, some as trivial as just changing the application name that you just don’t like)

-Who should not use antiX
If you are perfectly happy with the OS you are running (Windows or any other Linux Distro), stick to it.
If a particular piece of hardware (a printer, a scanner, a card reader, etc) only has drivers (software that allows a device to work with a computer) for your current OS, stick to it. You can’t demand that “Linux has to make xyz work” – There is no single magic “Linux” developer that does that because manufacturers of devices are responsible for the creation of the drivers they need – since they alone know exactly how the hardware they produce works. [HP printers, for example, work great in Linux. Nvidia, on the other hand, refuses to make their drivers open source and the drivers they currently make available for Linux are inferior to those available for Windows]
If you need a particular piece of software that is not (yet) available under Linux: like MS Excel Macros, Adobe Photoshop, CAD or accounting software, certain games etc – don’t use Linux, or, at the very least, have a dual boot system (more on that below). More advanced users, and with powerful enough computers can run a virtual MS Windows version inside Linux – but that usually is much slower than running Windows directly. There are free and open source alternatives for most commercial applications.
But “alternatives” are not the same as the “real deal” – if you spent years learning to be proficient in Photoshop, it probably won’t be efficient relearning how to do your work in Gimp, even that allows you to save software subscription fees…

–“It sounds great! How do I try antiX Linux?” you may ask…
Well most Linux Distros (antiX included) allow you do to something that you probably are not used to- they can run without even being installed!
It may seem strange, but that’s true. You can “boot” (this means to starting running the system) your computer from a CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, pen-drive or external hard-drive, that has the antiX system saved in a particular way that allows you computer to start from it, and run the system. It behaves just like the real installed system (but it may run way slower if you are running it from CD/DVD or very slow USB devices) – this is called a “live” system.
There is a special way to save the antiX system to USB devices (pen-drives and external hard drives) that allows you to save any changes that you do- you can create documents, install applications, etc, just like in a “installed system”. This is called “persistence” (the changes you make persist even across reboots, even if you plug your pen-drive on a different computer, etc).

Once you are running an antiX live system, you have the option to install it to your hard drive.

To do all that you do need to follow some steps that may require that you understand some principles and can perform some actions. There is no single Manual that says- just do this…

**1- Downloading antiX:
1.1- Please note that this tutorial assumes that you are a Windows user (probably a Windows 10 user). Open your web browser and navigate to the antix download page: https://antixlinux.com/download/ and pick the server nearest to you (so you can download the needed files faster)
1.2- You’ll see a simple web page that lists lots of files. You need to select which file you want to download – currently the latest version is antiX 21, so pick one that starts with “antiX-21″… If you have a very old computer, that is 32bits, you’ll have to select a file that has “_386” on the name. Most users can select the 64bits version (that has “x64” on the file name). Each version of antiX comes in a few flavours- “Full” includes most of the stuff you may need- select that one if you intend to install/test antiX using a DVD-ROM or an USB pen drive.
The file you want to download has the “.iso” extension, that is about 1.4Gb
Example – download the file “https://ftp.di.uminho.pt/pub/mxlinux/ISOs/ANTIX/Final/antiX-21/antiX-21_x64-full.iso”
Wait until the file is downloaded, it may take a while on a slow network connection.

Checking the integrity of the .iso file– The other (tiny) files that have similar names to the iso are meant to confirm if the .iso file you downloaded is not corrupted- If you don’t know how to do this (fully optional) step , you can read how to check the integrity of the .iso file you downloaded here: https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/How_to_install#Verification_of_the_integrity_of_the_ISO_file
Please note that probably most failed OS installations are due to trying to install from corrupted .iso’s!!!

**2- “Burning” antiX to a bootable media:
Note: If you are using an extremely old computer, it may not support booting directly from an USB device, only from CD/DVD. On the other side, more modern devices don’t even come with an optical drive!
2.1- You’ll have to save the .iso file you downloaded to a blank CD_ROM/DVD-ROM or pen drive. This process is called “burn” – the expression comes from the CD-ROM days (before USB pen-drives)- info was “burned” into the reflective surface of the disk using a laser. Sometimes the same expression is still used, even when saving iso images to USB pen-drives…
This is were things may begin to differ from user to user…
2.1.1- If you are “burning” the iso file to a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM – insert your disk in the CD/DVD recorder and open the software you use to “burn” disks. Select the option to burn an iso file and select the antiX .iso file you downloaded. Wait for iso file to be saved to the disk…
2.1.2– If you are “burning” the iso file to an USB pen-drive/external disk – insert the device you want to use. WARNING – this process ERASES ALL INFORMATION ON THE USB DEVICE!!! – and use an application that “burns” isos to pen-drive. In Windows you can use, for example Etcher (available here: https://www.etchersoft.com/download/#). You have to make sure you have Etcher or a similar application installed and open it. Select the option to burn your antiX .iso file to the USB device and wait until the process is finished.
NOTE: Even if you don’t have a computer with a working OS, you can download the .iso and create a USB bootable pendrive using an android device – there’s a short, but very nice tutorial on how to do that here (by Moddit): https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/create-live-media-with-smartphone-successful/#post-79573

**3: Booting into antiX live media
This step differs even more from user to user, depending on the computer that is being used. You may have to configure the computer to boot (to start running the system) from the optical disk/pendrive where you burned antiX…
3.1- Exit your system, completely shutting it down. In Windows 10 you have to hold down the SHIFT key on your keyboard and click the “Shut down” option in the Windows Start Menu (or on the log in screen)
3.2- Boot your computer.
3.2.1- In case your computer is already configured to boot from the media that you saved the antiX iso to, it will display the antiX boot screen. If that happens, jump to step 4.
3.2.2.- If you just see the regular Windows boot screen, you’ll have to let Windows boot and exit it again, repeating step 3.1.
Boot your computer and again and see if the boot screen, that shows up for some moments before the Windows screen says something about about pressing a key to enter the “boot menu/device/etc”. If it does, press that key, before the Windows Screen pops up, and select to boot from the media here you burned the antiX iso in (the optical disk or USB device). If you are successful, the computer will display the antiX boot screen. If that happens, jump to step 4.
3.2.3- If when your computer boots it does not display any indication on how to select “boot menu/device/etc” it will probably tell you to press a certain key to configure the device’s motherboard options.
Once you enter the motherboard options menu, be very careful – don’t change anything unless it’s about “boot devices” “boot order” or something similar – take notes about that the default setting is (or take a picture with your phone).
Change the boot order so the computer first tries to boot from the optical drive or the USB device (if you burned antiX to a DVD select the DVD as the first boot device, if you burned antiX to a pen-drive, select the USB device related entry first). Make sure that after the second boot device is your hard drive. Select the option to save the changes you just made (again, the way to do that depends on your computer’s brand and model) and reboot.

NOTE: The keys regularly used to enter the boot option/boot configuration are F8, F10, F12, etc- you can search for that info on your computer’s user manual or on-line.

**4: Running antiX in live mode and possibly installing it:
By default, the system boots in English. If you wish to use some other language, press the F2 key and, using the keyboard, select your language.
antiX 21 has 2 Kernels to boot from- a Legacy kernel (for older devices) and a Modern Kernel (for newer devices). The first boot screen allows you to choose which kernel you want antiX to use. Usually go with the default option, then you’ll reach the second, and main, boot screen, with more options- if you don’t want to change any setting (don’t do it unless you really have to), or after you select your language (if don’t want to use English), press enter on the first option on the menu (“Normal Boot”), to start loading antiX.
P.S.- There’s a Youtube video that shows the boot and install process: https://youtu.be/5z-SYlouQZM?t=10 (you only need to see the video from the 10 seconds mark until the 5 minutes mark. Yes, just 5 minutes to boot antiX for the first time, take a look at the menu, install it and reboot the computer to the newly installed antiX 21 OS – it probably will take you longer to read the rest of this tutorial than to view the relevant part of that video…)
4.1- Loading antiX – when loading antiX from a “live” media, the boot process is different from when you are using an “installed” antiX system. In the “live” boot, you get to see some text roll by and then a simple GUI that shows one line on the middle of the screen that tells you what is happening.

4.2- Using antiX “live” – after some moments, you’ll see the antiX desktop – it’s similar to Windows – it has a toolbar on the bottom, with a clock on the right side, you see a wallpaper, and desktop icons. If you are using the default settings, there is also a menu button on the left side of the toolbar, that you can click to access the menu. It’s, in the default antiX settings, a Category driven menu, that has a few generic entries – like Web browser, etc, and then all applications are organized into categories, inside de “Applications” menu entry.
You can configure your Wi-Fi network (if need be) and test the web browser (the compass looking icon, on the toolbar).
If you are using an USB antiX bootable media and you burned the iso in such a way that it can store changes, you can save files to a special folder on the “demo” user folder.
If you want to use real persistence, you’ll have to configure that option (there are how-to’s on that, on the forum and the antiX wiki)

4.3- Installing antiX – You can, at any point, when using antiX in Live mode, install antiX to your hard drive.
To start installing antiX click the “Install” icon available in the default antiX desktop (it looks like a CD with an arrow pointing down). You can also start the installer using the antiX Menu > Control Centre > Disks Tab > Install antiX Linux.
If you choose to install antiX, first you’ll have to confirm (or change) the keyboard settings. Then you are given the choice to which disk you want to install to (only if you have more than one hard drive) and to do a “Regular install using the entire disk” or “Customize the disk layout”.
This last option allows you to keep your current system -Windows and all your existing files and documents and install antiX side by side. If you do that, it’s called “Dual booting“- every time you reboot your computer you can select if you want to use antiX or Windows. But that process is relatively complex. Don’t do it without making sure to backup every important file you have in your computer!!!
WARNING 1: if you select the option to install to the entire hard drive your hard drive will be formatted and everything that’s on it erased! (I’m simplifying for all you Windows users, but take this warning seriously)
WARNING 2: If you want to run antiX side by side with Windows and/or keep the files you currently have on your hard disk and you don’t know how to create or manage disk partitions, ask the help of some computer savvy person- run antiX live all you want but don’t try to install it if you have stuff you want to keep from your old system and don’t have backups.
After this selection regarding the hard drive partitions, the installer is extremely easy to use – just answer the questions you are asked.
[Note: when answering the following questions, the install process will continue. If you are a slow typist there’s a good chance that, when you answered every thing, the installation is done or very close to being done…]
Select your “Computer name” and “Computer Domain” (choose any names you want)
Select your username and password,
You’ll be asked if you want to “Auto-login” – if you don’t choose this option, you’ll have to enter your password each time you turn on your computer.
You will also be asked if you want to setup a “Root (administrator) account”– if this is enabled, you’ll be asked to enter your root password every time you want to do any major change to your computer – like installing or removing software or changing some important setting- it’s a very nice security feature.
Basically the installer asks the same simple questions, that you are used to if you ever installed Windows or bought a computer with Windows pre-installed and had to set the system up.
Save live desktop changes: If you choose this option, you can keep all the changes you made in the Live session (the language selection, any package you installed, the Wi-Fi configuration, etc).
You can also keep using the Live session after you install antiX to your hard drive or select the option “Automatically reboot the system when the installer is closed”

**5- Exiting Live mode
5- If you don’t want to run antiX in live mode (either because you installed it to your hard drive OR you want to use Windows, remember to remove the media you are using to boot into antiX live (the USB device or the optical disk) before rebooting your computer:
5.1- If you are using a pen-drive – shut down your computer using the exit menu options. Once the computer is completely off, you can remove the USB device and reboot your computer.
5.2- If you are using an optical disk (CD-ROM or DVD-ROM)- shutdown antiX and usually the optical disk is ejected. (If it’s not ejected, for some reason, when rebooting the computer, eject the optical disk, so it can boot into the internal drive).

If you did a dual boot installation, when you boot your computer, you’ll be able to select if you want to run antiX or Windows.
If you did a full disk install, you’ll only have several options to boot antiX
If you did not install antiX, when you boot your computer (and don’t have the antiX live boot media inserted in your computer), you’ll run Windows.

Note: some motherboards (I have one of those), when you press the key to select the boot device, require you to set the boot order back to first try to boot from the hard drive, once you want to reboot from the hard drive…

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