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pinxi -zv8 System: Kernel: 6.2.8-x64v3-xanmod1 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0 parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.2.8-x64v3-xanmod1 root=UUID=e1d85e10-a42a-4ed5-a98e-c860607e6910 ro quiet selinux=0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP Laptop 14-fq1xxx v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: HP model: 887C v: 59.11 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: AMI v: F.18 date: 11/26/2021 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.6 Wh (99.8%) condition: 40.7/40.7 Wh (100.0%) volts: 12.9 min: 11.3 model: HP Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: not charging Memory: RAM: total: 7.09 GiB used: 1.58 GiB (22.2%) RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. PCI Slots: Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. CPU: Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 5500U with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3 level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x68 (104) stepping: 1 microcode: 0x8608103 Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 2x4 MiB Speed (MHz): avg: 2100 min/max: 1400/4056 boost: enabled scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance cores: 1: 2100 2: 2100 3: 2100 4: 2100 5: 2100 6: 2100 7: 2100 8: 2100 9: 2100 10: 2100 11: 2100 12: 2100 bogomips: 50303 Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy constant_tsc cpb cppc cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb ibrs ibs irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw overflow_recov pae pat pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sep sha_ni skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vgif vmcb_clean vme vmmcall wbnoinvd wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected Type: l1tf status: Not affected Type: mds status: Not affected Type: meltdown status: Not affected Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP protection Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP: always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected Type: srbds status: Not affected Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected Graphics: Device-1: AMD Lucienne vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-5 code: Vega process: GF 14nm built: 2017-20 pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s ports: active: eDP-1 empty: HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164c class-ID: 0300 temp: 50.0 C Device-2: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:2 chip-ID: 04f2:b6f1 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: amdgpu unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22") s-diag: 582mm (22.93") Monitor-1: eDP-1 mapped: eDP model: ChiMei InnoLux 0x1429 built: 2020 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 158 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.592 y: 0.349 green: x: 0.329 y: 0.557 blue: x: 0.153 y: 0.118 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 309x173mm (12.17x6.81") diag: 354mm (13.9") ratio: 16:9 modes: 1920x1080, 1680x1050, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1280x800, 1280x720, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480 EDID-Warnings: 1: parse_edid: unknown flag 2 API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: AMD RENOIR (DRM 3.49.0 6.2.8-x64v3-xanmod1 LLVM 11.0.1) direct-render: Yes Audio: Device-1: AMD Renoir Radeon High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637 class-ID: 0403 Device-2: AMD Raven/Raven2/FireFlight/Renoir Audio Processor vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_rn_pci_acp3x v: kernel alternate: snd_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_pci_acp6x, snd_acp_pci, snd_rpl_pci_acp6x, snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir, snd_sof_amd_rembrandt pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 03:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2 class-ID: 0480 Device-3: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s bus-ID: 03:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403 API: ALSA v: k6.2.8-x64v3-xanmod1 status: kernel-api with: apulse type: pulse-emulator tools: alsamixer,amixer Server-1: PulseAudio v: 14.2 status: active tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol Network: Device-1: Realtek vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: rtw89_8852ae v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:a85a class-ID: 0280 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> IP v6: <filter> scope: link WAN IP: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:3 chip-ID: 0bda:385a class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.2 sub-v: 7644 hci-v: 5.2 rev: d99a Info: acl-mtu: 1021:6 sco-mtu: 255:12 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park link-mode: slave accept Logical: Message: No logical block device data found. RAID: Message: No RAID data found. Drives: Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 31.21 GiB (13.1%) SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Toshiba model: KBG40ZNV256G KIOXIA size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: HP00AE00 temp: 29.9 C scheme: GPT Message: No optical or floppy data found. Partition: ID-1: / raw-size: 48.83 GiB size: 47.76 GiB (97.81%) used: 31.15 GiB (65.2%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3 label: rootantiX21 uuid: e1d85e10-a42a-4ed5-a98e-c860607e6910 ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 260 MiB size: 256 MiB (98.46%) used: 56.1 MiB (21.9%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 label: SYSTEM uuid: 669B-9111 Swap: Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100) ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 maj-min: 259:6 label: N/A uuid: d5ee9225-6bf8-4ea5-9299-547b7272c289 Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 size: 1000 MiB fs: vfat label: N/A uuid: E253-D9ED ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4 size: 48.83 GiB fs: ext4 label: rootMX23 uuid: 5e2df1ad-78dd-4d06-964a-39c101e12fdd ID-3: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5 size: 48.83 GiB fs: ext4 label: rootantiX23 uuid: d4f28f3d-bba2-45a8-856f-984e1f9cbb30 ID-4: /dev/nvme0n1p7 maj-min: 259:7 size: 35.09 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A uuid: ba9847e5-cd89-4ff7-aacb-eecf804ba657 ID-5: /dev/nvme0n1p8 maj-min: 259:8 size: 47.85 GiB fs: ext4 label: endeavouros uuid: 9d4b3198-1d58-45a1-bd31-991af24ff71f USB: Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Device-1: 1-2:4 info: KYE Systems (Mouse Systems) Trackbar Emotion type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0458:0007 class-ID: 0301 Device-2: 1-3:2 info: Chicony HP TrueVision HD Camera type: Video driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 04f2:b6f1 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> Device-3: 1-4:3 info: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 1.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0bda:385a class-ID: e001 serial: <filter> Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 54.9 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 50.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): fan-1: 0 fan-2: 0 Repos: Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 1836 libs: 834 tools: apt,apt-get,nala,synaptic Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list 1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 1: deb http://atl.mirrors.clouvider.net/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 1: deb http://atl.mirrors.clouvider.net/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free 2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list 1: deb https://liquorix.net/debian/ bullseye main 2: deb-src https://liquorix.net/debian/ bullseye main Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/volian-archive-scar-unstable.list 1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] http://deb.volian.org/volian/ scar main Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list 1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/code stable main Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xanmod-kernel.list 1: deb http://deb.xanmod.org/ releases main Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/librewolf.sources 1: deb [arch=amd64] https://deb.librewolf.net bullseye main Processes: CPU top: 5 of 284 1: cpu: 11.0% command: pinxi started-by: perl pid: 20973 mem: 33.9 MiB (0.4%) 2: cpu: 4.6% command: firefox pid: 20993 mem: 569.4 MiB (7.8%) 3: cpu: 1.5% command: firefox-bin pid: 21412 mem: 298.2 MiB (4.1%) 4: cpu: 1.4% command: xorg pid: 1923 mem: 89.8 MiB (1.2%) 5: cpu: 1.1% command: firefox-bin pid: 21316 mem: 196.6 MiB (2.7%) Memory top: 5 of 284 1: mem: 569.4 MiB (7.8%) command: firefox pid: 20993 cpu: 4.6% 2: mem: 298.2 MiB (4.1%) command: firefox-bin pid: 21412 cpu: 1.5% 3: mem: 202.7 MiB (2.7%) command: firefox-bin pid: 21282 cpu: 0.3% 4: mem: 196.6 MiB (2.7%) command: firefox-bin pid: 21316 cpu: 1.1% 5: mem: 120.2 MiB (1.6%) command: firefox-bin pid: 3903 cpu: 0.1% Info: Processes: 284 Uptime: 4h 25m wakeups: 19965 Init: runit v: N/A runlevel: 2 tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm pinxi: 3.3.25-20--
Brian MasinickIn reply to: What are you “here” with today?
Brian Masinick
After I ran the update above I helped out a neighbor with some pretty basic stuff.
The neighbor wants to create some documents with “announcements”, then put some
“pretty graphics” around it.I showed how to use an ordinary word processor; for us, that could be something
like LibreOffice, SoftMaker FreeOffice, or if it was really simple, abiword.In her case, she has an iPhone and an iMac laptop. The browser would be
Safari, unless she grabs Google Chrome. My wife got a few Google products
on her system, because Apple’s “Pages” word processor, though powerful, is
a confusing interface, full of options and choices, but “intuitive” is NOT
the word that either of us would use, so my wife got her Google Docs and
Google Chrome.Yesterday this same neighbor had more questions, so this morning after
checking a few Emails and checking in here, I went over to “help”. 90%
of what I did was basically a repeat of what my wife had already done.
There’s no way we can get any true Linux stuff; the closest we can get
to “free” is to replace the overly complicated Apple stuff with simpler
Google products.Today I showed her on my computer that I can run the same things from
my Firefox browser (or any other modern Web browser, for that matter).
Then I showed her how Docs has some pretty simple formatting tools,
similar to the ones we have in LibreOffice. Two hours later my final
words were, “Look, in order to remember any of this, you have to
actually USE it and experiment with it. The way to do that is to take
a usable document, make a copy, or several copies of it, then practice
with the copies. You won’t hurt the original unless you change it, but
if you make copies you can experiment, make mistakes, try again, copy
again, until you are comfortable with it”.Even here, we come with a wide variety of experiences. Some things
I know well, but there’s a lot I don’t know, particularly the latest
technologies and tools. I’ll probably start forgetting more and more
over time.The take away is that it’s important to SHARE and document what we’ve
learned, show tips, HOWTO documents, answer questions and be helpful.Some of my friends know a lot more than I do about hardware; they share
what they know and it helps.When you happen to learn something, please take notes and share it
with someone. If it has anything to do with computer technology
it may be relevant here. If it’s Linux, and especially if it’s
antiX, it’s definitely worth sharing; thankfully many people in
this forum are EXTREMELY helpful!--
Brian MasinickIn reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
calciumsodium
Hardware acceleration in browser:
G31 – OpenGL 2 Video Card
For PaleMoon, Seamonkey, Firefox <91 need OpenGL 2+ Video Cards
For Firefox 92+ need OpenGL 3+ Video Cards
For Chrome (Chromium) need OpenGL 2+ Video Cards
Chrome (Chromium) automatically enabled hardware acceleration
PaleMoon, Seamonkey, Firefox <91 need manually enabled hardware acceleration
MPV enabled hardware acceleration OpenGL 2+YouTube can show video in various codecs:
AV1 – av01 very heavy
AVC (H264) – avc1 fast
VP9 – vp09 very fastHow To Activate and Use YouTube ‘Stats for Nerds’ Feature
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/how-to-activate-and-use-youtube-stats-for-nerds-featureaddon “enhanced-h264ify”
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhanced-h264ify/omkfmpieigblcllmkgbflkikinpkodlk?hl=en
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enhanced-h264ify/OK, now I “see” what you are saying.
I have been testing these browsers just “out of the box.”
What you are saying is that with some of these browsers, one has to manually fine tune specific settings to get the maximum performance.
I guess that is why I have mainly used the chromium-type browsers because they give the best performance just out of the box.
Manually fine tuning these settings will be new for me. It will be a learning curve and will take some time for me.
Thanks for sharing this information.
I think it will be useful for many people besides me.
- This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by calciumsodium.
In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
grey_rat
I tried to look at your earlier link about mesa-amber. How does one install this mesa-amber because I could not find an install candidate in the debian repos.
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/debian-12-bookworm-reaches-first-code-freeze/#post-98136
Мaybe something is already in Antix23Hardware acceleration in browser:
G31 – OpenGL 2 Video Card
For PaleMoon, Seamonkey, Firefox <91 need OpenGL 2+ Video Cards
For Firefox 92+ need OpenGL 3+ Video Cards
For Chrome (Chromium) need OpenGL 2+ Video Cards
Chrome (Chromium) automatically enabled hardware acceleration
PaleMoon, Seamonkey, Firefox <91 need manually enabled hardware acceleration
MPV enabled hardware acceleration OpenGL 2+YouTube can show video in various codecs:
AV1 – av01 very heavy
AVC (H264) – avc1 fast
VP9 – vp09 very fastHow To Activate and Use YouTube ‘Stats for Nerds’ Feature
https://www.tutorialspoint.com/how-to-activate-and-use-youtube-stats-for-nerds-featureaddon “enhanced-h264ify”
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/enhanced-h264ify/omkfmpieigblcllmkgbflkikinpkodlk?hl=en
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/enhanced-h264ify/- This reply was modified 1 month, 3 weeks ago by grey_rat.
In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
In a previous post of mine, I tested the use of several browsers with the 6.1 liquorix kernel and the 6.1 antiX kernel.
Now I want to add data to include the use of the same browsers with the latest 5.10 antiX kernel.I downloaded these latest browsers:
chromium 110.0.5481.177-1
firefox-esr 102.8.0esr-1
google-chrome-stable 110.0.5481.177-1
palemoon 32.0.0-1.gtk3.mx21
seamonkey amd64 2.53.15~mozillabinaries-1mx21+1For each of these tests, I watched the youtube video on each of these browsers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_VW8pdIec
For each browser, I waited until the CPU % stabilized and recorded the CPU %.
Then I rebooted to reset the computer for the next test.These are my results:
liquorix 6.1.13-1 kernel antiX 6.1.10 kernel antiX 5.10.173 browser CPU % CPU % CPU % chromium 23 % 36 % 42 % firefox-ESR 55 % 65 % 71 % google-chrome 20 % 32 % 37 % palemoon 87 % 88 % 94 % seamonkey 82 % 48 % 70 % mpv (360p) 8 % 10 % 10 %The chromium browsers performed best on both the liquorix and the antiX kernels.
Palemoon did not perform well on any of these kernels.
MPV at 360p resolution was consistent on all these kernels.
The 6.1 antiX kernel seems to consistently perform better than the 5.10 antiX kernel on all these browsers.This is my test system:
$ inxi -b
System:
Host: antix1 Kernel: 5.10.173-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Inspiron 530 v: N/A
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Dell model: 0G679R v: A00 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell
v: 1.0.18 date: 02/24/2009
CPU:
Info: dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7300 [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2449
min/max: 1600/2667
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915
v: kernel
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
resolution: 1680×1050~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: i915 (: G33) v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.3
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82562V-2 10/100 Network driver: e1000e
Device-2: Realtek RTL8188FTV 802.11b/g/n 1T1R 2.4G WLAN Adapter type: USB
driver: rtl8188fu
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 6.91 GiB (3.0%)
Info:
Processes: 130 Uptime: 0m Memory: 2.4 GiB used: 338.6 MiB (13.8%)
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.19In reply to: What are you “here” with today?
Brian Masinick
Now I’m back with antiX 23, also using Ungoogled Chromium.
As I typically do with my other system, since I use Web browsers a lot, I test them regularly,
and I use the release version and one or two development versions too.With Firefox, I have the ESR (Extended Support Release) that we’ve been including,
and I have my own copies of the current Firefox Release Browser, the
Firefox Developer Edition Browser, and the Firefox Nightly Browser.At a minimum, these are the ones that I regularly test as I update each system.
On some systems, I include various other browsers. On antiX 23 Alpha 1,
I also have the SeaMonkey Browser, the Dillo browser that we include to read documentation,
and the aforementioned Ungoogled Chromium. All are working fine today.--
Brian MasinickIn reply to: What are you “here” with today?
Brian Masinick
Firefox Developer Edition is up to date, Version 112.0b2 (64-bit).
With two tabs running
sudo ps_mem.py Private + Shared = RAM used Program 92.0 KiB + 12.5 KiB = 104.5 KiB runit 104.0 KiB + 16.5 KiB = 120.5 KiB runsvdir 120.0 KiB + 17.5 KiB = 137.5 KiB svlogd 200.0 KiB + 26.5 KiB = 226.5 KiB gpm 204.0 KiB + 25.5 KiB = 229.5 KiB atd 284.0 KiB + 28.5 KiB = 312.5 KiB acpid 264.0 KiB + 54.5 KiB = 318.5 KiB rtkit-daemon 364.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 478.5 KiB icewm-session [updated] 400.0 KiB + 85.5 KiB = 485.5 KiB dbus-launch 364.0 KiB + 141.5 KiB = 505.5 KiB udevil 476.0 KiB + 170.5 KiB = 646.5 KiB rpcbind 544.0 KiB + 314.0 KiB = 858.0 KiB getty (4) 760.0 KiB + 203.5 KiB = 963.5 KiB gconfd-2 636.0 KiB + 390.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB devmon 368.0 KiB + 925.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB saned (2) 836.0 KiB + 461.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB desktop-session 836.0 KiB + 501.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB at-spi-bus-launcher 908.0 KiB + 429.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB at-spi2-registryd 1.4 MiB + 343.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB sudo 1.3 MiB + 447.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB console-kit-daemon 1.3 MiB + 504.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB dbus-daemon (3) 1.4 MiB + 372.0 KiB = 1.8 MiB runsv (22) 1.6 MiB + 245.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB udevd 1.5 MiB + 393.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB ntpd 1.5 MiB + 506.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB polkitd 1.9 MiB + 246.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB bluetoothd 2.1 MiB + 61.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB rsyslogd 1.9 MiB + 507.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB bash 3.2 MiB + 25.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged 2.6 MiB + 713.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB dhclient 3.5 MiB + 222.5 KiB = 3.7 MiB connmand 3.7 MiB + 854.5 KiB = 4.5 MiB conky 3.6 MiB + 946.5 KiB = 4.6 MiB slimski 4.6 MiB + 747.5 KiB = 5.3 MiB wpa_supplicant 3.6 MiB + 2.8 MiB = 6.4 MiB volumeicon 5.9 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 7.7 MiB icewm [updated] 11.1 MiB + 3.7 MiB = 14.8 MiB roxterm 19.3 MiB + 2.6 MiB = 22.0 MiB zzzfm 38.9 MiB + 22.6 MiB = 61.5 MiB Xorg 505.5 MiB + 115.7 MiB = 621.2 MiB firefox-bin (9) --------------------------------- 788.9 MiB =================================If you remember, the other day I was running two tabs with Ungoogled Chromium; granted this is a TEST version whereas Ungoogled Chromium is a release of the current software, but it was using a couple hundred MiB less memory.
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Brian MasinickIn reply to: How to disable colors from Firefox via custom css
Lead Farmer
Do you want to edit the Firefox browser like tabs, taskbar, sidebar, menu… or you want to edit the web page itself like “google.com”?
If you what to to edit the web-page CSS you need to install Stylus add-on, if so tell me what do you to edit and I will try to help you, and on witch website.
You can check out some of my styles https://userstyles.world/user/oren64
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In reply to: GUI to manage (essential) IceWM settings
Brian Masinick
For what it’s worth, I can remember when I was using graphical window environments before the fully packaged concepts that became known as Desktop Environments. Perhaps the first one of all was either Enlightenment, if you acknowledge it as a complete Desktop Environment, or Xfce, in it’s initial configuration, before it adopted the current Gtk libraries. KDE very closely followed Xfce; they were close enough that it’s difficult to “call” which one was first. GNOME followed about a year later, at least in complete form.
The thing that the early desktop environments offered that was missing from other GUI configurations, at least from my recollection, was drag and drop capability. I note this because I was a UNIX user, developer, and administrator during the time the X Window System was introduced, then the Motif interface was introduced. Motif had a lot of features, but it wasn’t referred to as a Desktop Environment. Shortly thereafter, the Common Desktop Environment (CDE) was created, and another collaboration between AT&T and Sun Microsystems produced UNIX System V combined with Sun “Solaris”; these were the early UNIX desktop environments. Five to eight years later, depending on your counting point, the various Linux and free software alternatives reached common use.
Quoting one source –
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=What+distinguishes+a+window+manager+from+a+desktop+environment%3F“A desktop environment (DE) usually rides on top of a Window Manager and adds many features, including panels, status bars, drag-and-drop capabilities, and a suite of integrated applications and tools. In fact, user opinions on operating systems are typically based on one thing: the Desktop Environment.”
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Brian MasinickIn reply to: Today’s antiX upgrades
Xunzi_23
Hi all, have no way to check right now, if ungoogled chromium in the installer is coming from the Debian OBS build repo
If so it will remain hopelessly out of date as the builds are unmaintained from 10.2022. And should be considered insecure.Presently there are up to date debs available from.
https://github.com/berkley4/ungoogled-chromium-debian/releasesWhich is forked from ungoogled-software/ungoogled-chromium-debian
From Debian WIKI: Debian Builds
berkley4 maintains Debian builds of Ungoogled Chromium. Binaries can be downloaded from the ungoogled-chromium-debian ?GitHub project.Only ungoogled-chromium_*.deb is mandatory. The other debs can optionally be installed if necessary.
To install the package, run: apt install ./ungoogled-chromium_*.deb
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From the OBS Repo
As of 2022-07-02 19:19:07, The packages in the OBS repo and the unportable builds
are out of date, have maintenance issues and use an older version of ungoogled-chromium.
Consider using an alternative browser like Firefox, Brave or the flatpak version.Nope
Up to date Portable and Appimage versions are available from
https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
They are not official builds, I have found no issues with them over months of usage.A Fatpack is also available from
https://flathub.org/apps/details/com.github.Eloston.UngoogledChromiumI intensly dislike fatpack (flatpack)as it is not easy to open for inspection and huge…
The quoted Appimage and Portable builds are both easy to unpack and checked.
Run in the same way as a fresh firefox from Moz, which is also a portable build.Plenty of further info on install here in the forum.
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In reply to: antiX-23-alpha1-runit-full (64bit) for testing
Concerning web browsers in antiX23 alpha 1:
I wanted to test the use of web browsers in this alpha 1 test system on an older two-core CPU system.
I downloaded these latest browsers:
chromium 110.0.5481.177-1
firefox-esr 102.8.0esr-1
google-chrome-stable 110.0.5481.177-1
palemoon 32.0.0-1.gtk3.mx21
seamonkey amd64 2.53.15~mozillabinaries-1mx21+1For each of these tests, I watched the youtube video on each of these browsers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS_VW8pdIec
For each browser, I waited until the CPU % stabilized and recorded the CPU %.
Then I rebooted to reset the computer for the next test.These are my results:
liquorix 6.1.13-1 kernel antiX 6.1.10 kernel browser CPU % CPU% chromium 23 % 36 % firefox-ESR 55 % 65 % google-chrome 20 % 32 % palemoon 87 % 88 % seamonkey 82 % 48 % mpv (360p) 8 % 10 %The chromium browsers performed best on both the liquorix and the antiX kernels.
Palemoon and seamonkey did not perform well on the liquorix kernel.
Palemoon did not perform well on the antiX kernel.
Seamonkey performed well on the antiX kernel.This is my test system:
System: Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1.10-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023 Machine: Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Inspiron 530 v: N/A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: Dell model: 0G679R v: A00 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell v: 1.0.18 date: 02/24/2009 CPU: Info: dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7300 [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1596 min/max: 1600/2667 Graphics: Device-1: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915 resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: i915 (: G33) v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.3 Network: Device-1: Intel 82562V-2 10/100 Network driver: e1000e Device-2: Realtek RTL8188FTV 802.11b/g/n 1T1R 2.4G WLAN Adapter type: USB driver: rtl8188fu Drives: Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 9.98 GiB (4.3%) Info: Processes: 133 Uptime: 1m Memory: 2.42 GiB used: 447.9 MiB (18.1%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.19In reply to: What are you “here” with today?
rokytnji
Been busy with blown down fence. Lulus < my shop pit bull> lives in the house by day and barks all night in her large pen attached to the shop all night.. This is while I am priming the steel ketchen sink. Still have to sand it for paint job.
Body is stove up < country slang for sore bones and muscles > So I am in the easy chair on my chromebook using battery.
harry@antix1:~ $ acpi -b Battery 0: Discharging, 90%, 10:03:29 remaining harry@antix1:~ $ inxi -p Partition: ID-1: / size: 13.36 GiB used: 6.56 GiB (49.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2 ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/mmcblk1p1 ID-3: /media/harry/sda1-usb-PNY_USB_2.0_FD_A size: 29.95 GiB used: 13.69 GiB (45.7%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 ID-4: swap-1 size: 768 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/mmcblk1p3 harry@antix1:~ $ sudo ps_mem.py; inxi -Fxz [sudo] password for harry: Private + Shared = RAM used Program 152.0 KiB + 36.5 KiB = 188.5 KiB seatd 212.0 KiB + 29.5 KiB = 241.5 KiB gpm 216.0 KiB + 60.5 KiB = 276.5 KiB rpc.idmapd 232.0 KiB + 57.5 KiB = 289.5 KiB init 264.0 KiB + 71.5 KiB = 335.5 KiB rtkit-daemon 316.0 KiB + 69.5 KiB = 385.5 KiB cron 412.0 KiB + 34.5 KiB = 446.5 KiB acpid 340.0 KiB + 111.5 KiB = 451.5 KiB dbus-launch 340.0 KiB + 149.5 KiB = 489.5 KiB icewm-session 440.0 KiB + 109.5 KiB = 549.5 KiB rpcbind 448.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 566.5 KiB rpc.statd 376.0 KiB + 221.5 KiB = 597.5 KiB udevil 176.0 KiB + 554.0 KiB = 730.0 KiB saned (2) 644.0 KiB + 408.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB devmon 720.0 KiB + 384.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB dbus-daemon (2) 804.0 KiB + 427.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB desktop-session 812.0 KiB + 482.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (6) 1.3 MiB + 89.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB sshd 1.4 MiB + 336.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB ntpd 1.3 MiB + 399.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB sudo 1.6 MiB + 197.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB connmand 1.7 MiB + 472.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB bash 2.0 MiB + 263.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB bluetoothd 3.1 MiB + 22.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged 2.9 MiB + 414.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB udevd 3.7 MiB + 356.5 KiB = 4.0 MiB cupsd 3.7 MiB + 1.0 MiB = 4.7 MiB conky 5.1 MiB + 544.5 KiB = 5.6 MiB wpa_supplicant 4.0 MiB + 3.7 MiB = 7.7 MiB volumeicon 6.3 MiB + 2.1 MiB = 8.3 MiB icewm 12.3 MiB + 740.5 KiB = 13.0 MiB slimski 10.0 MiB + 4.8 MiB = 14.9 MiB roxterm 25.7 MiB + 5.0 MiB = 30.7 MiB Xorg 445.9 MiB + 98.3 MiB = 544.3 MiB firefox-esr (8) --------------------------------- 660.6 MiB ================================= System: Kernel: 5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-22_x64-full Grup Yorum 18 October 2022 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Candy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Mobo: GOOGLE model: Candy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: coreboot v: MrChromebox-4.18.1 date: 10/27/2022 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.3 Wh (89.9%) condition: 41.5/44.5 Wh (93.4%) volts: 12.4 min: 11.4 model: Samsung DELL XK status: discharging CPU: Info: dual core model: Intel Celeron N2840 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Silvermont rev: 8 cache: L1: 112 KiB L2: 1024 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 1669 high: 2500 min/max: 500/2582 cores: 1: 2500 2: 839 bogomips: 8666 Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx Graphics: Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 bus-ID: 00:02.0 Device-2: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:4 Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: i965 gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT) direct-render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no Network: Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:6 Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0 Drives: Local Storage: total: 44.65 GiB used: 20.26 GiB (45.4%) ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1 vendor: Hynix model: HAG2e size: 14.68 GiB ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: PNY model: USB 2.0 FD size: 29.97 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 13.36 GiB used: 6.56 GiB (49.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2 ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/mmcblk1p1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 768 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/mmcblk1p3 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C mobo: N/A Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 135 Uptime: 15m Memory: 3.75 GiB used: 1017.5 MiB (26.5%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1644 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.25 harry@antix1:~The day the winds blew my fence down. Telephone pole posts sunk 5 feet down with cement. Snapped the poles at the base.
It was a biblical day as far wind speeds and time duration of them.
Not sure yet if I have the energy to handle this .
Fun and games in West Texas.Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
Not all who Wander are Lost.
I'm not outa place. I'm from outer space.Linux Registered User # 475019
How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsIn reply to: What are you “here” with today?
Brian Masinick
UngoogledChromium certainly uses fewer resources than Firefox – clear evidence right here –
sudo ps_mem.py Private + Shared = RAM used Program 76.0 KiB + 11.5 KiB = 87.5 KiB pause 88.0 KiB + 12.5 KiB = 100.5 KiB runit 92.0 KiB + 14.5 KiB = 106.5 KiB bpfilter_umh 100.0 KiB + 16.5 KiB = 116.5 KiB runsvdir 128.0 KiB + 17.5 KiB = 145.5 KiB svlogd 192.0 KiB + 23.5 KiB = 215.5 KiB gpm 204.0 KiB + 24.5 KiB = 228.5 KiB atd 288.0 KiB + 28.5 KiB = 316.5 KiB acpid 264.0 KiB + 61.5 KiB = 325.5 KiB rtkit-daemon 400.0 KiB + 75.5 KiB = 475.5 KiB dbus-launch 372.0 KiB + 156.5 KiB = 528.5 KiB udevil 364.0 KiB + 181.5 KiB = 545.5 KiB icewm-session 480.0 KiB + 120.5 KiB = 600.5 KiB rpcbind 536.0 KiB + 264.0 KiB = 800.0 KiB getty (4) 624.0 KiB + 401.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB devmon 732.0 KiB + 430.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB dconf-service 344.0 KiB + 946.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB saned (2) 848.0 KiB + 486.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB desktop-session 924.0 KiB + 529.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB at-spi2-registryd 1.2 MiB + 536.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB dbus-daemon (3) 1.4 MiB + 357.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB sudo 1.8 MiB + 67.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB elogind 1.6 MiB + 247.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB udevd 1.6 MiB + 387.0 KiB = 2.0 MiB runsv (24) 1.6 MiB + 409.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB ntpd 1.9 MiB + 274.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB bluetoothd 2.1 MiB + 48.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB rsyslogd 1.9 MiB + 400.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB connmand 2.4 MiB + 495.5 KiB = 2.9 MiB bash 4.6 MiB + 24.5 KiB = 4.6 MiB haveged 4.5 MiB + 742.5 KiB = 5.3 MiB dhclient 4.6 MiB + 776.5 KiB = 5.3 MiB wpa_supplicant 4.2 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 5.3 MiB slimski 4.9 MiB + 555.5 KiB = 5.5 MiB at-spi-bus-launcher 5.7 MiB + 830.5 KiB = 6.5 MiB conky 4.4 MiB + 2.6 MiB = 7.0 MiB volumeicon 6.1 MiB + 2.0 MiB = 8.1 MiB icewm 11.0 MiB + 4.1 MiB = 15.1 MiB roxterm 21.3 MiB + 2.7 MiB = 24.0 MiB zzzfm 48.9 MiB + 22.5 MiB = 71.4 MiB Xorg 460.9 MiB + 183.4 MiB = 644.3 MiB chrome (14) --------------------------------- 833.6 MiB =================================--
Brian MasinickIn reply to: What are you “here” with today?
Brian Masinick
I also find that chrome uses less memory than firefox. Chrome also works for 100% of webpages, same can’t be said of firefox. I still prefer the look and feel of firefox. For instance, the full screen implementation in firefox is vastly superior.
I’ll have to check again with Google Chrome. It may start up with fewer resources, but it quickly grows, and I’ve seen it grow even larger than what I see with Firefox.
The UngoogledChromium in particular definitely uses fewer resources than either Firefox or Google Chrome.
As you say, for many things, I also prefer Firefox and I’ve been using it since it first became a Mozilla family browser.
I also maintain my own copies of the current release, either a Beta or Developer Edition, and a Nightly Edition, and I keep them completely under my own personal management and control.--
Brian MasinickIn reply to: Update UngoogledChromium Urgent
Mozilla is not better just another security hole..
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/Since google was founded as alphabet by cia, what does anyone expect.
US is one of the 5 eyes founders and spies on the world. I think we can
safely assume vunerabilitys/backdoors are in many cases intended but at
times inconveniently found by the other side or found by researchers and
bountys paid to give the impression privacy is an aim…
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