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[Member Wallon]

Dear users,

1) A few people have come to the forum asking for help installing Gnome. I found that there was not much support for this desktop environment. I show in this thread that it is possible to install Gnome with antiX.

2) I’ve noticed that on many French-speaking forums, people say that antiX is for old computers. It’s true, I admit it, I have trouble working on my desktop with two screens. The windows are difficult to drag from one screen to the other. But I’ve found a little trick with iceWM to help me out. I also admit that I prefer to use MX Linux to manage my screens to do translations with my Google searches, my dictionaries and Transifex open. That’s a lot of windows to manage at the same time. I was always told to install a real desktop environment that can handle all the windows.

3) I also admit that I am not comfortable with Gnome, it is an environment I am discovering. There are lots of windows like in another well known operating system!

4) I discovered some functions in Gnome that are really interesting, especially for window management. It’s a shock for me to have so much ease in dragging windows using antiX. There is a kind of magnet that attracts windows to the left or to the right. You can easily split your screen in two and use two programs or two tabs at the same time in Firefox ESR for example.

5) I have no screen tearing with Gnome Xorg. This is incredible, I have never experienced this with other desktop environments. I hear it’s even better in Wayland but it’s not available in Debian.

6) I did my whole installation in one go. Incredible for me, I didn’t think I could do it. I used the command line in a terminal or I used Synaptic to do the whole installation.

7) After my experience, I think that antiX can have the n°1 place on “Distrowatch” with this environment. I really think so. A good ssd with 8GB Ram and let’s go… Don’t ask me to give times for booting my machine, I used an old USB stick that I used with Vista and that is completely worn out.

8) I am not a computer engineer or developer. A specialist will go away with a basic antiX and install the necessary packages. I don’t know what to do to remove the other 3 environments and leave Gnome alone. I am happy at my level because all the antiX software works very well after installing Gnome.

9) I don’t usually like to make changes to the style, theme, colours. I take the basic and basta! So, if you think it’s not good enough, it’s up to you to do what you want on your machine.

10) Gnome is much heavier than antiX but it is 6 times lighter than Windows 10/11. So, it can be a good solution for mid-range computers too. You have to have an open mind…

With all due respect to the antiX community.

Wallon

[Member PPC]

I’ve seen this thread, but I’ve been to busy to reply until now:
One nice way to have a “notification” that you clicked an application and it’s loading could be using yad (that does not require system notifications to be installed, thus saving resources on that). Example for a “Loading message” when you launch Firefox (please note that before each option are two minus signs, the forum usually messes that up):

firefox & yad --text=" Loading, Please Wait " --center --no-buttons --timeout=5 --timeout-indicator=top --undecorated --skip-taskbar

As advised, for very old hardware, software that uses less resources would be advisable (if the system is 64 bits ungoogled-chromium for Browsing) and also using antiX’s defaul e-mail client… There is no good “low resource options” for a fully featured and fully working, standards complient opensource word processor for Linux, other than Libreoffice Writer, and OnlyOffice (there are some other good options out there like FreeOffice, but they are not opensource or, in my humble opinion, mature enough).

P.

[Member Robin]

Ja, wieso soll das denn auch nicht klappen, wenn caprea das schreibt 🙂

Zur Erklärung: Das war der nächste logische Schritt nachdem Dir die Statusabfrage für den Cups Dienst ein „not running” als Auskunft beschert hat. Ich hätte übrigens auch gleich dazuschreiben sollen, daß Du sudo zur Ausführung dieser Befehle brauchst, weil Systemdienste nur mit erweiterten Nutzerrechten gestartet oder beendet werden können.
Es gibt drei wichtige Varianten dieses Befehls (sowie eine Menge weiterer, die Du mit „man cups” erfährst, leider alles in Englisch):

sudo service cups start
sudo service cups status
sudo service cups stop

Und außer „cups” kannst Du auf diese Weise viele der Systemdienste starten und beenden. Das gehört zu den Grundlagen, die es lohnt sich einzuprägen. Mit „status” kannst Du jederzeit eine Statusabfrage für einen Dienst machen, ohne ihn dabei zu stören. Was „start” und „stop” bewirken, brauche ich ja wohl nicht zu erklären.

Noch ein Tip zum Forum allgemein, weil Du es oben angesprochen hast. Wenn Du die englischsprachigen Informationen und Threads nicht verstehen kannst, installiere Dir einfach das Übersetzer-Plugin traduzir paginas web von Felipe PS. Damit bekommst Du das ganze Forum in (halbwegs verständlicher) deutscher Sprache serviert. Aber bitte bedenke, daß Dich andere nicht verstehen, wenn Du in den englischsprachigen Bereichen dann in Deutsch schreibst und antwortest. Das geht also nicht. Stelle Deine Fragen am besten hier, oder wenn Du direkt eine Frage in einem englischen Thread stellen willst, lasse sie vorher mit deepl.com übersetzen (die deepl Übersetzungen sind wesentlich besser und genauer als die von google translate.). Kopiere die fertige Übersetzung in das Text-Eingabefeld unter dem Thread und füge den Originaltext darunter an, wie Marcelo es im brasilianischen Portugieseisch macht. Das Verfahren hat sich bewährt. (Ohne Originaltext kann es leicht zu schweren Mißverständnissen kommen)

Grüße
Robin.

Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

Regarding Firefox configuration, those wanting to harden Firefox DO have some options, though they take some time and effort.
https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/firefoxgecko-configuration-guide-for-privacy-and-performance-buffs/
and
https://12bytes.org/articles/tech/firefox/the-firefox-privacy-guide-for-dummies/
may be useful for some people.

In any case, we do have alternatives; different ways to configure Firefox; different browsers, LibreWolf, Ungoogled Chromium, etc.

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Brian Masinick

[Member Robin]

Well, I did it this way:

— Downloaded the proper package for my architecture and language from mozilla site (see some postings above), checked the checksum.
— Extracted its content (using sudo) to ‘/opt/firefox-102.3.0esr’ system folder
— Sat the existing firefox-esr package in apt to hold: sudo apt-mark hold firefox-esr (to avoid later overwriting of menu entries and configuration by arbitrary installation of unwanted outdated packages; didn’t apt purge the old package in order to keep all settings and system integration)
— Added the alias in antiX Control Center → System → Alias for the x-www-browser entry to point to /opt/firefox-102.3.0esr/firefox, priority 100.
— Edited /usr/share/applications/firefox-esr file, line Exec= to point to /opt/firefox-102.3.0esr/firefox %u now.
— Ran sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global to apply the new menu setting.
— Created a backup copy of my existing ~/mozilla/firefox folder.

Then started the new firefox the first time. It comes up properly, identifying itself as version 102.3.0esr.
— Allowed to make itself the default system browser.
— Deny to import profiles (doesn’t work, need to do this manually later)
— Deny all its stupid questions you don’t like.
Once firefox was completely up, closed it.

In ~/mozilla/firefox are two files, “installs.ini” and “profiles.ini”
Open both of them, look for the new default, profile and install entries, and change the cryptic name of the new entries to the name of your existing profile folder. If I remember corectly you have to do it in three places. Twice in “profiles.ini” file and once in “installs.ini”. Save the files, close them and restart firefox. Btw, when running on an antiX Live system it is a good idea to move this profile folder to a place on your harddrive and add the path to the entries. This way you won’t ran out of RAM any longer when firefox tries to cache tons of stuff to its config folder within your home directory, which is in RAM when running on Live. Then you’ll have to set the value IsRelative= for this profile from 1 to 0 in the profiles.ini file. Really ini? Hey, this is pure windows style 😉 Ok, time to start this beast again.

This time it should come up with all your settings, bookmarks, history, stored passwords, even addons you had installed, etc. exactly as you have left your previous installation, even opening on startup the proper pages (if this was set before already).

BUT you will have still to check the settings (Menu edit → settings, all sections) anyway. Mozilla resets in this process your search engine if you dare not to use their beloved google, but e.g. startpage instead. They tell you even they won’t let you any longer… But that’s nonsense, just reset it in the settings to your favourite engine. This way check all settings and restore as needed, back to what you’ve had before. Most settings are kept properly, but some are not (e.g. search engine, search proposals, phone-home functionallity, automatic proposals for installation of addons).

I’m fine with this new version. Don’t see any disadvantages on this 32bit single-core 2GB RAM notebook. Seems to make even more efficiently use of the ressources, no need any longer to reduce the parallel threads of firefox to 1 as in the old version.

Now the question to the browser gurus here: Did I miss something, in this process, something which should urgently be done still?

Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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::Whenever I install Firefox directly from mozilla I extract to /opt. sudo tar xvjf firefox-xxxx.tar.bz2 -C /opt. Check the instructions here:

https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox

As a consistent, reasonably well-supported way to run Firefox, I accept the general mechanisms they suggest for running their software.

For me, however, I frequently run, and personally maintain, my own personal copies of Firefox. I download the archives from their Website and then unpack them directly from my home directory, that is, /home/masinick. Therefore, each download, once unpacked, would reside in
/home/masinick/firefox. In order to maintain three versions, I’d rename the release version as /home/masinick/firefox-release, the test version as
/home/masinick/firefox-beta, and the other one /home/masinick/firefox-nightly. I’ve since grabbed the developer’s edition, which is roughly equivalent to the Beta version, so instead I rename the directory as /home/masinick/firefox-developer.

To run them, I invoke /home/masinick/firefox-release/firefox to run the released version, /home/masinick/firefox-developer/firefox to run the developer’s edition, and /home/masinick/firefox-nightly/firefox to run the nightly version. By running all three, I can keep tabs on the work; if it goes “sideways” and has regressions that affect my preferred user experience, I can (and have a few times) report defects, what I was running, what pages I was accessing, and the undesired behavior found. By promptly reporting matters that concern me, I get a user experience that meets my own needs and therefore I’ve enjoyed a positive browsing environment for a very long time.

To each our own; some people detest Mozilla, Google, and others; they are free to make their own decisions and preferences. Mine are clear; I’ve run this stuff for a long time. While I do try out and use other browsers from time to time, I enjoy the ones that started out in the Netscape/Mozilla heritage; maybe it’s because I used them very early in their history and again as they were redesigned, so I grew both familiar and preferred the way they work.

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Brian Masinick

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

We have a wide variety of personal preferences here, and that includes either tolerance to, or complete aversion to, various network-based tools.

The full truth is that once information crosses the Internet, there are countless ways that it *could* potentially be compromised.
I’ve definitely had information compromised from time to time. As far as financial loss goes, none of those compromises resulted in any permanent loss to any financial account; one or two, which ironically came from every day places, NOT Google, NOT Firefox, and NOT any of the other “insecure” vehicles we worry about.

Also, I was a relative “pioneer” on the Internet; certainly NOT the first, and probably not the first 100-200, but probably among the early, every day regulars, and definitely BEFORE the likes of Windows 95 and the other commercial software entities that opened up public networks to the masses. Those early networks had VERY LITTLE security, and that was duly noted. By the time the use of networks became commonplace, there was at least SOME authentication required, but as history has shown, it was relatively weak.

I started doing electronic commerce in the mid 1990s; at that time, network security was certainly NOT a strong point. Even so, the only compromises I ever endured came from a local grocery store chain, my cards were protected and reissued; it had nothing whatsoever to do with Mozilla, Microsoft, Apple, or PC vendors, but it did have plenty to do with insufficient grocery store network security between their point of sale terminals and their back end business servers!

I’m not defending insecurities in browsers or claiming that any of them are defect free; all I am saying is that even after decades of use of all of these technologies, none of them, not even the breaches that we uncovered, have resulted in serious personal loss; even if some “bad guys” have my information, they’ve not done anything to me that my financial and business institutions have failed to acknowledge and appropriately protect; at least for me, that is sufficient, and given a good history of that, even an intrusion is likely to result in reasonable assurance and insurance from the providers I’ve used, because my personal and practical experience has proven that multiple times to be true. Also my local police and regulatory agencies have backed and supported me; we collaborated at least a couple times and actually CAUGHT and captured 1 or more perpetrators of intended criminal activity; can’t complain about that either!

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Brian Masinick

[Member ModdIt]

For those interested, firefox nightly is more privacy intrusive than
google chrome and you can not switch off, the features..

Normal releases are as delivered only saintly in the dreams of those
who beleive an organization dependant on google and apple for finance.
In exchange they help them see what iusers are doing, users should not
forget the relationship with cloudflare either.

Nothing to hide, ok, please post date of birth birthplace, full name
sex, Full postal address. Full bank details with login, all email
adresses here on the forum.

[Member ModdIt]

Hopefully helpful, please do not despair, problems with browsers can be bothersome to fix, and sometimes
troubles are only fixable by a system upgrade. That has to do with the Librarys the browser depends on, biggest
issue is often GLIBC. A very important system component.

to rule out a corrupted config or cache please regenerate both.
Config is to be found at /home/yourusername/.config/chromium
Eazy, delete with rox or filemanager of your choice.
please also remove chromium cache as it might cause problems
easy from the terminal rm -rf ~/.cache/chromium
Or use filemanager.

If that does not help then:
I suggest to purge/remove chromium as the config has the same name for both chromium and UngoogledChromium

If you use the package installer you should get a fitting install and not need to touch the sandbox or do anything
to get a menu entry.

If you are still stuck best choice is use firefox for banking until a fix or way round the problem can be found, or you
decide to stay with the fox. You could also try LibreWolf. It works ok for my bank.

The problem may be coming from updated chrome but could be a bank site issue, hard to separate without using an older
and insecure chrome version to see if the issue dissapears. Not recommended for banking.

For Info and Understanding/ try if you wish but following will need as a minimum Bullseye for sure.

I want the latest and greatest version so i am not using the package installer. I am also running antiX with sid repos.
What might happen is that a download from below source needs a much newer GLIBC than is on your system.
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I use a universal package of UngoogledChromium. That is similar to the way firefox comes if you download from mozilla.
I download from https://ungoogled-software.github.io/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/
Check the sha256 sum of the zip file before unpacking.
In the package is a README, after unpacking and opening the resulting folder it is readable.
Important part for testing if Installing as I do will work on your system.
How to set up the SUID sandbox:
1. Rename “chrome_sandbox” to “chrome-sandbox” so you rename as demanded, easy peasy in ICEWM. Right mouse click use rename option
2. Set the file mode to 4755. Easy to understand way when you use the rename option use the path to the downloaded folder and file.
Which would look like: chmod 4755 /home/yourusername/Downloads/ungoogled-chromium_105.0.5195.127-1.1_linux/chrome-sandbox

3. Set the group to root
chown :root /home/yourusername/Downloads/ungoogled-chromium_105.0.5195.127-1.1_linux/chrome-sandbox

4 make chrome-wrapper executable, easy, right click on the file, you have a right click menu item for that.

Then left click on chrome wrapper and see if UngoogledChromium will start.

If working correctly easy to move the browser files to a saner place, I use /opt then make a personal menu
entry with the control center tool.

I hope understandable, need help with understanding please ask.

[Member roland]

I have tried several times on 2 or 3 different 64-bit pcs to install ungoogled chromium, without success. The process runs apt-update then fails immediately but I can never see what with.

I have read the post above by Moddit, and a later one describing how to deal with the sandbox, it’s all a bit over my head I’m ashamed to say.

But should I purge chromium first before attempting to install ungoogled chromium? What are the minimal things I need to do to achieve an install?

ps I am using iceWM (or space-iceWM?) and spaceFM, I have never used anything else and am wary of a sudden change to JWM in case it leads me too far away from the immediate problem. The fact that Firefox works and Chromium doesn’t in this instance tells me not to diverge too much, so I wish to either install ungoogled chromium or change to another browser. I like chromium but am prepared to abandon it as I suspect it is also the cause of the workspace freezing problem I posted a few weeks ago, although that does not occur with this current 193. installation, but does with the latest 21 install.

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During my recent holidays, I almost never used my computer (except for writing), I mostly used my phone… So I got the idea for this post from there.

If you want to use an android device and keep tracking to a minimum, there are lots of tips you can follow (you can Google how to do them! Ah Ah!):
– Disable all google tracking settings and limit, as much as you can the “History” Google keeps of your device:
– If you have a fairly recent android device, enable the “Sensors Off” option- that enables an icon on the “Options” top drawer that is supposed to disable all sensors (camera, gps, mic, rotation sensors, etc)- allowing only low level Mic usage for phone calls

Most important for keeping your phone/tablet light and as functional as possible (most of them, sadly not Collabora office, do work on my Android 4.4.1 tablet, that is still running great):
– Try using alternative Open source Apps. Here are some FOSS suggestions for the most used application categories (as far as I know none of my suggestion tracks users, none shows adds, and all run great even on very old/low resources devices- my tablet is probably about 8 years old and it works great, for most tasks):

– Internet Browser– Mozilla Firefox, Bromite and Monocles Browser (nice option that allows you to browse the Web without using too much mobile data- it can disable Javascript and even web page images- it’s a nice option to browser news sites, blogues, etc, on the move, during commutes). FFupdater – allows you to quickly update your browser (Firefox, Bromite, Chromium, etc) to the latest version, with just a couple of clicks.
– E-mail: k-9 Mail (now being integrated into Mozilla Thunderbird) – it now even works with Gmail (yes, It’s ironic, I still use that email service)
– Messaging services– this one is tricky- most Messaging platforms do track you to some extent- most require you to register with a cell phone number- but “Nekogram X” is the most private Telegram software I found
– “Cloud storage” apps– once again, this is basically using other’s peoples disk space to store your files, but if you really need to use those services- RCX is the way to go- you can even use GDrive without having Google play services running, or logging in through a browser
– Camera – OpenCamera
– GPS– Organic Maps – is a fully off-line software client that downloads (From Openstreetmap) the maps of the countries you need to navigate and stores them on your device- pretty good; My Location – a simple app that provides the GPS coordinates from where you are (nice and fast, if you need to jot down your current coordinates)
– Off-line music player– “Music Player Go”
– Podcasts– AntennaPod
– Calendar– Etar
– Note taking– Joplin
– App stores – F-droid for Open Source Apps (allows you to add repositories for applications, like Bromite) and Aurora Store (allows you to download/update and install free apps from the official Play Store.
– Use Wikipedia and dictionaries off-line– Kiwix (great way to get info without using you mobile data)
– File Browser– “Material Files”- ugly name, great app, allows access to samba shares and usb devices, includes a FTP server)
– Streaming video from youtube, etc– NewPipe (allows you to subscribe to channels, download audio or video)
– Ebook readers (epubs, pdfs, comics)- Librera PRO (also converts any ebook into an audiobook, thanks to android’s TTS engine- you can even set it with a sleep timer.)It’s onlu cons is that can be a bit slow, loading large files from SD cards. On the Pro side, it integrates well with AARD2 off-line dictionaries. AIReader is also a great document reader- lighter and way faster, but lacks somes resources.
–Office– Collabora Office (an LibreOffice implementation for android- it came a long way in the last couple of years); PDF Converter, Editor (a simple text editor). MJ PDF (great little PDF viewer only- does not allow annotations). Text Fairy – great OCR (converts text from images into text files)
– Off line Video Players– VLC or MPV
–Firewall: Netguard- blocks the apps you seleclet from accessing the internet (can block mobile/Wi-fi connections or both)- great way to test drive apps with abusive tracking or excessive adds.
–Assorted apps:PEN &PDF, Sletckes/Pocket Paint- great ways to draw or take notes; Share to Computer (great app to well, share files from your device to your computer), Aard 2- allows you to have off-line dictionaries (ex: from wikionary on your device, can be used with several ebook readers, like Librera PRO- tap a word and it is opened in the dicionary), Sleeptimer (turns off your screen after a predefined time- great if you use your device before going to sleep- can save lots of battery). Handy News Reader (RSS news reader that can download news that you can then read off-line), HeartBeat (measures your heart rate using your camera). MotionMate (tiny Step Counter app, that does not require GPS/network connection)
– Games – that can be played until the end of times- Patience Revisited (has many Patience card games). Puzzles (includes a sudoku clone, minesweeper clone, mastermind clone, Bridges etc), Domination (a Risk clone), CrossWords (a scrabble clone). Mill, Checkers, many Chess games (both off-line and on-line), GOdroid (Go off-line game), Blockinger (great tetris clone), Freeciv Go (Civilization), Gurgle (wordle clone in several languages), Lexica, Bushido Blocks, OpenTTD (Trasnport Tycoon clone). 2048,

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[Member Wallon]

I thank Robin for giving me the commands to use. Everything went very well for the installation. No errors.

I tested the new kernel (linux-image-5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp_5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp-1_amd64) and ran several programs (Firefox, Firofox ESR, Google Chrome, LibreOffice, zzzFM, youtube…) with the file to prevent screen tearing. It remains stable with my Dell Latitude Intel CPU.

Small problem, I did “sudo apt update” after installing the new kernel. It installed 34 packages and wanted to make a new GRUB. I managed to get out of the procedure so as not to reinstall a new GRUB.

Well I don’t know if it’s normal but before the installation of this 5.10 kernel, all the packages were up to date.

anticapitalista has done a nice job that will certainly bring better compatibility with Intel CPUs.

Congratulations.

[Member Wallon]

Be careful, the kernel can be installed very well and antiX can also work but you need to go further in the tests.
You need to launch Firefox or Chromium or Google Chrome.
The final test that freezes my Dell Latitude is zzzfm. Each time, antiX is paralized with the “20-intel.conf” file in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d directory with a 5.10 kernel!

If you want a confirmation on the internet, you have to type the words “screen tearing kernel 5.10”. Many Linux distributions talk about problems with this kernel.

[Member calciumsodium]

I tried this second version of the new kernel (5.10.142 v2) on a computer that uses the intel i915 driver.

Boots up good.
Powers down good.
Plays youtube video with ytfzf good.
Plays youtube video with firefox good.
Plays youtube video with google chrome good.

Have not seen any problems so far.

$ inxi -b
System:    Host: jakersfan Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 2.4.0 
           Distro: antiX-bullseye-b1_x64-full Grup Yorum 11 June 2021 
Machine:   Type: Desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire XC-703G serial: <root required> UEFI: American Megatrends 
           v: P11-B2 date: 08/28/2014 
CPU:       Quad Core: Intel Celeron J1900 type: MCP speed: 2156 MHz min/max: 1333/2416 MHz 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display driver: i915 v: kernel 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.4 
Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169 
           Device-2: Realtek 802.11n type: USB driver: rtl8188fu 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 232.89 GiB used: 21.85 GiB (9.4%) 
Info:      Processes: 152 Uptime: N/A Memory: 7.66 GiB used: 201.5 MiB (2.6%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36 
jakersfan@jakersfan:~

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[Member ModdIt]

Hi DaveW, if you run the LibreWolf browser from home with user rights and UFW enabled
no real need to worry about firejail. I rid myself of it more than a year ago as it
gave me pain, my system was really secure as little worked as intended.

Majority of attacks/exploits I have experienced are in any case either using the hidden
Firefox feature plugins or good old Java and cross site scripting.

Watch out for Firefox or if used torbrowser freezing or crashing then respawning busy and
headless.

Using Firejail with modern self sandboxing browsers can be a pain in the rear and
maybe even counterproductive.

Side Note: The only browser I know which needs a component in root group is ungoogled chromium,
the chrome sandbox requires the membership to function correctly.