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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

stevesr0 wrote:

Hi,

I believe my speed is consistent with what my ISP delivers and my sysctl.conf file also has the dirty_bytes = 20000000 (and the two other settings mentioned with the same values [10 and 50]) as a default.

However, I use firefox, not google chrome, on this machine.

So, possibly this setting is harmless for not chrome browsers (or only a problem with chrome browsers on certain setups, since anticapitalista mentioned that he had no problems with speed with google-chrome, presumably with the same dirty_bytes setting?).

stevesr0

Whatever is set up by default in antiX works for me regardless of which browser I use. I see negligible speed performance difference on the typical pages that I use, and though some of the “lighter” browsers use less memory, only the truly minimal browsers that also have considerably less support for the latest technologies offer a LOT less memory use; the minimal browsers are mostly useful for browsing text and simple html with very minimal (if any) graphic content.

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Brian Masinick

[Member stevesr0]

Hi,

I believe my speed is consistent with what my ISP delivers and my sysctl.conf file also has the dirty_bytes = 20000000 (and the two other settings mentioned with the same values [10 and 50]) as a default.

However, I use firefox, not google chrome, on this machine.

So, possibly this setting is harmless for not chrome browsers (or only a problem with chrome browsers on certain setups, since anticapitalista mentioned that he had no problems with speed with google-chrome, presumably with the same dirty_bytes setting?).

stevesr0

[Member Wallon]

Dear Developers,

I installed antiX 21 Full on a Sandisk 3.2 usb stick on my old 2008 Asus laptop with 2 GB ram.

I removed the line vm.dirty_bytes by putting the # sign in front of it.
#vm.dirty_bytes = 20000000

Now, Google Chrome also works very well for downloading in antiX 21. Look at my screenshot. I have a nice straight line for my 125 mbps download.

I’m going to tell you a secret.
I installed several Linux distributions and checked why other distributions worked well with Google Chrome download. Every time, the dirty_bytes was 0.
I don’t understand all these functions but it has a nasty influence on the speed of antiX.
As I have no answer from the developers, I stop testing.

I’m happy to have found the cause of the slowness of Google Chrome on my 2 computers.

I’m also glad I’m back to antiX because the Debian distribution free or not free is very difficult to use. You always have to get out command lines and it doesn’t even always work. I understand the work that is done by the developers to help ordinary users.

Best regards,
Wallon

System:
  Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp
    root=UUID=ff36b0a5-ed79-4644-b98d-8c6ff4a4fe67 ro quiet
  Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.7 vt: 7 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0
    Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: F3U v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: F3U v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 208
    date: 07/18/2007
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 7.2 Wh (98.6%) condition: 7.3/51.3 Wh (14.3%) volts: 12.5 min: 11.1
    model: ASUSTEK F3---24 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: N/A
Memory:
  RAM: total: 1.87 GiB used: 1.09 GiB (58.2%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
PCI Slots:
  Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Athlon 64 X2 TK-55 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: K8 process: AMD 65-130nm
    family: 0xF (15) model-id: 0x68 (104) stepping: 1 microcode: N/A
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-2x64 KiB; i-2x64 KiB
    L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1800 min/max: 800/1800 scaling: driver: powernow-k8 governor: performance
    cores: 1: 1800 2: 1800 bogomips: 7182
  Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext 3dnowprefetch apic clflush cmov cmp_legacy cpuid cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de
    extapic extd_apicid fpu fxsr fxsr_opt ht lahf_lm lbrv lm mca mce mmx mmxext msr mtrr nopl nx pae
    pat pge pni pse pse36 rdtscp rep_good sep sse sse2 svm syscall tsc vme vmmcall
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon v: kernel
    arch: R400 process: TSMC 55-130nm built: 2004-08 ports: active: LVDS-1
    empty: DVI-D-1,SVIDEO-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 01:05.0 chip-ID: 1002:791f class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Microdia PC Camera (SN9C201 + OV9650) type: USB driver: gspca_sn9c20x bus-ID: 1-7:4
    chip-ID: 0c45:624f class-ID: 0000
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: radeon
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 338x211mm (13.31x8.31") s-diag: 398mm (15.69")
  Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS model: LG Philips 0xc100 built: 2006 res: 1280x800 hz: 60
    dpi: 98 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.600 y: 0.349 green: x: 0.325 y: 0.553 blue: x: 0.153
    y: 0.137 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 331x207mm (13.03x8.15") diag: 390mm (15.4")
    ratio: 16:10 modes: 1280x800, 1280x720, 1152x768, 1024x768, 800x600, 848x480, 720x480, 640x480
  OpenGL: renderer: ATI RS690 v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.2
    chip-ID: 1002:4383 class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK Notebook
    driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: b800 bus-ID: 05:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic mngtmpaddr scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> scope: link
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR242x / AR542x Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath5k v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 06:00.0 chip-ID: 168c:001c class-ID: 0200
  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 140.44 GiB used: 5.13 GiB (3.7%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST9120822AS size: 111.79 GiB block-size:
    physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 1.5 Gb/s type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: C scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: USB 3.2Gen1 size: 28.65 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: MATSHITA model: DVD-RAM UJ-850S rev: 1.22
    dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
  Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram
    state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 25.39 GiB size: 24.99 GiB (98.43%) used: 5.13 GiB (20.5%) fs: ext2
    dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: rootantiX21 uuid: ff36b0a5-ed79-4644-b98d-8c6ff4a4fe67
  ID-2: /media/wallon/DATAWIN5 raw-size: 1.26 GiB size: 1.26 GiB (99.80%) used: 4 KiB (0.0%)
    fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb3 maj-min: 8:19 label: DATAWIN5 uuid: D072-AE6B
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 780 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sdb2
    maj-min: 8:18 label: swapantiX uuid: 5f514d24-a67b-4e68-8cab-105c236565b8
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 6.84 GiB fs: vfat label: RECOVERY uuid: 1489-5F00
  ID-2: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 67.07 GiB fs: ntfs label: VistaOS uuid: A4448C70448C46D0
  ID-3: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 size: 1 KiB fs: <superuser required> label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-4: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5 size: 37.88 GiB fs: ntfs label: DATA uuid: 7458901B588FDA6E
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 10 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-1:2 info: SanDisk Ultra Flair type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1
    rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 224mA chip-ID: 0781:5591 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 1-7:4 info: Microdia PC Camera (SN9C201 + OV9650) type: Video driver: gspca_sn9c20x
    interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0c45:624f class-ID: 0000
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-3: 2-2:2 info: Ortek Targus Number Keypad ports: 3 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05a4:9837 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 2-2.1:3 info: Logitech Optical Tilt Wheel Mouse type: Mouse
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 046d:c019 class-ID: 0301
  Device-2: 2-2.3:4 info: Ortek Targus Number Keypad (Composite Device) type: Keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 48mA chip-ID: 05a4:9862
    class-ID: 0300
  Hub-4: 3-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 4-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 5-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 6-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 63.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: apt: 1589 lib: 756
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
    1: deb http: //it.mxrepo.com/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
    1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http: //ftp.be.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http: //ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
    2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 144
  1: cpu: 28.3% command: firefox-esr pid: 5722 mem: 543.2 MiB (28.2%)
  2: cpu: 14.7% command: app-select started by: python3 pid: 8883 mem: 47.6 MiB (2.4%)
  3: cpu: 12.5% command: yad pid: 8903 mem: 26.7 MiB (1.3%)
  4: cpu: 10.2% command: firefox-esr pid: 5905 mem: 278.0 MiB (14.4%)
  5: cpu: 8.2% command: firefox-esr pid: 5873 mem: 177.0 MiB (9.2%)
  Memory top: 5 of 144
  1: mem: 543.2 MiB (28.2%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5722 cpu: 28.3%
  2: mem: 278.0 MiB (14.4%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5905 cpu: 10.2%
  3: mem: 177.0 MiB (9.2%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5873 cpu: 8.2%
  4: mem: 108.5 MiB (5.6%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5787 cpu: 0.2%
  5: mem: 92.2 MiB (4.8%) command: xorg pid: 1947 cpu: 5.2%
Info:
  Processes: 144 Uptime: 36m wakeups: 2 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5
  tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.19

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

I’m totally OK with discussing inxi here; I started this thread, so from my perspective, it’s a personal journal that I’ll allow a lot of general purpose stuff, as long as it doesn’t overwhelm my own purpose for this topic. The reality is that the smxi and inxi tools are the primary vehicles I use to journal and document whatever I’m doing, so in this author’s opinion, they are not only ON TOPIC, they are assisting my journal history, which I tie back to how I use antiX in relationship to a few other distributions; I’m delighted in the way this is going!

On that point, now that I have at least one of my system updated with a current tool, I can use our GUI tool and it provides a lot of up-to-date information:

System:
  Kernel: 5.17.0-13.1-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 10.2.1 parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable
    BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.17.0-13.1-liquorix-amd64
    root=UUID=aee72af0-ef89-4139-bcbe-a544c99b9c72 ro audit=0
    intel_pstate=disable quiet selinux=0
  Desktop: IceWM v: 2.9.7 dm: N/A
    Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-base Grup Yorum 30 October 2021
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: s5747c v: N/A
    serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: N/A
  Mobo: PEGATRON model: 2A6C v: 5.00 serial: <filter>
    BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.01 date: 09/29/2010
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  RAM: total: 3.59 GiB used: 1.1 GiB (30.5%)
  Array-1: capacity: 8 GiB slots: 2 EC: None max-module-size: 4 GiB
    note: est.
  Device-1: DIMM0 type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: 800 MT/s volts: N/A width (bits): data: 64 total: 64
    manufacturer: AD00000000000000 part-no: HYMP125U64CP8-S6 serial: N/A
  Device-2: DIMM1 type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: 800 MT/s volts: N/A width (bits): data: 64 total: 64
    manufacturer: AD00000000000000 part-no: HYMP125U64CP8-S6 serial: N/A
PCI Slots:
  Slot: 32 type: PCIe bits: 32 status: available length: short volts: 3.3
    bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 33 type: PCIe bits: 32 status: in use length: short volts: 3.3
    bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 34 type: PCIe bits: 32 status: available length: short volts: 3.3
    bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 35 type: PCI bits: 32 status: available length: short volts: 3.3
    bus-ID: N/A
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Athlon II X2 255 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: K10
    family: 0x10 (16) model-id: 6 stepping: 3 microcode: 0x10000C8
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-2x64 KiB; i-2x64 KiB L2: 2 MiB desc: 2x1024 KiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3100 min/max: 800/3100 boost: disabled
    base/boost: 3100/3100 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: performance
    volts: 1.5 V ext-clock: 200 MHz cores: 1: 3100 2: 3100 bogomips: 12456
  Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext 3dnowprefetch abm apic clflush cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpuid cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de extapic extd_apicid fpu fxsr
    fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibs lahf_lm lbrv lm mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext
    monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw pae pat pdpe1gb
    pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rdtscp rep_good sep skinit sse sse2 sse4a svm
    svm_lock syscall tsc vme vmmcall wdt
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected
  Type: spectre_v1
    mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: nvidiafb v: kernel alternate: nouveau non-free: series: 304.xx
    status: legacy (EOL) last: release: 304.137 kernel: 4.13 xorg: 1.19
    arch: Curie process: 90-130nm bus-ID: 00:0d.0 chip-ID: 10de:03d0
    class-ID: 0300
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: fbdev,nouveau
    unloaded: modesetting,vesa alternate: nv gpu: nvidiafb display-ID: :0.0
    screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.00x11.26")
    s-diag: 583mm (22.95")
  Monitor-1: default res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 size: N/A modes: N/A
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5
    compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:05.0 chip-ID: 10de:03f0
    class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.17.0-13.1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    type: network bridge driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: e480 bus-ID: 00:07.0
    chip-ID: 10de:03ef class-ID: 0680
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Ralink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe vendor: Lite-On
    driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1814:0781 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic scope: global broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 698.64 GiB used: 8.19 GiB (1.2%)
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST3750528AS
    family: Barracuda 7200.12 size: 698.64 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B sata: 2.6 speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200
    serial: <filter> rev: HP35 temp: 32 C scheme: MBR
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 53d 20h cycles: 505
    Pre-Fail: attribute: Spin_Retry_Count value: 100 worst: 100 threshold: 97
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: hp model: DVD A DH16ABLH rev: 3HD9
    dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
  Features: speed: 40 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 693.13 GiB size: 681.18 GiB (98.28%)
    used: 8.19 GiB (1.2%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda1
    maj-min: 8:1 label: rootantiX21
    uuid: aee72af0-ef89-4139-bcbe-a544c99b9c72
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.5 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
    priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: swapantiX
    uuid: 6d217687-2ca8-442f-9edd-6a82740bac35
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 10 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-9:4 info: Realtek USB 2.0 multicard reader type: Mass Storage
    driver: ums-realtek interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 0bda:0158 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 10 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 2-1:2 info: Primax HP Multimedia Keyboard type: Keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 0461:4d8a class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 2-2:3 info: KYE Systems (Mouse Systems) Trackbar Emotion
    type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0458:0007 class-ID: 0301
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: apt: 1254 lib: 600
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
    1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/antix/bullseye bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
    1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list
    1: deb https://liquorix.net/debian bullseye main
    2: deb-src https://liquorix.net/debian bullseye main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera.list
    1: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera stable non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 137
  1: cpu: 10.2% command: firefox-bin pid: 18046 mem: 202.0 MiB (5.4%)
  2: cpu: 7.7% command: firefox pid: 4821 mem: 417.1 MiB (11.3%)
  3: cpu: 4.1% command: firefox-bin pid: 5266 mem: 247.9 MiB (6.7%)
  4: cpu: 1.6% command: xorg pid: 1537 mem: 105.0 MiB (2.8%)
  5: cpu: 0.6% command: firefox-bin pid: 25644 mem: 54.1 MiB (1.4%)
  Memory top: 5 of 137
  1: mem: 417.1 MiB (11.3%) command: firefox pid: 4821 cpu: 7.7%
  2: mem: 247.9 MiB (6.7%) command: firefox-bin pid: 5266 cpu: 4.1%
  3: mem: 202.0 MiB (5.4%) command: firefox-bin pid: 18046 cpu: 10.2%
  4: mem: 132.2 MiB (3.5%) command: firefox-bin pid: 5072 cpu: 0.5%
  5: mem: 105.0 MiB (2.8%) command: xorg pid: 1537 cpu: 1.6%
Info:
  Processes: 137 Uptime: 52m wakeups: 1 Init: runit v: N/A runlevel: 2
  tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10/9 Shell: inxi-gui (sudo)
  default: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.16

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Brian Masinick

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

I’m using a different piece of hardware again today, and it’s another one where at the present time I have ONLY antiX installed.
I hope to spend some time later today acquiring a newer version of the excellent h2 tool inxi. In the meantime, here is
what the inxi-gui version I have available says about the system I am using now:

System:
  Kernel: 5.17.0-11.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: audit=0 intel_pstate=disable hpet=disable 
  BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.17.0-11.1-liquorix-amd64 
  root=UUID=aee72af0-ef89-4139-bcbe-a544c99b9c72 ro audit=0 
  intel_pstate=disable vga=895 quiet selinux=0 
  Desktop: IceWM 2.9.7 dm: N/A 
  Distro: antiX-21-runit_x64-base Grup Yorum 30 October 2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: s5747c v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 3 serial: N/A 
  Mobo: PEGATRON model: 2A6C v: 5.00 serial: <filter> 
  BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.01 date: 09/29/2010 
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present? 
Memory:
  RAM: total: 3.59 GiB used: 1.12 GiB (31.3%) 
  Array-1: capacity: 8 GiB slots: 2 EC: None max-module-size: 4 GiB 
  note: est. 
  Device-1: DIMM0 size: 2 GiB speed: 800 MT/s type: DDR2 detail: synchronous 
  bus-width: 64 bits total: 64 bits manufacturer: AD00000000000000 
  part-no: HYMP125U64CP8-S6 serial: N/A 
  Device-2: DIMM1 size: 2 GiB speed: 800 MT/s type: DDR2 detail: synchronous 
  bus-width: 64 bits total: 64 bits manufacturer: AD00000000000000 
  part-no: HYMP125U64CP8-S6 serial: N/A 
PCI Slots:
  Slot: 32 type: 32-bit PCI Express PCI-E x16 status: Available 
  length: Short 
  Slot: 33 type: 32-bit PCI Express PCI-E x1 status: In Use length: Short 
  Slot: 34 type: 32-bit PCI Express PCI-E x1 status: Available length: Short 
  Slot: 35 type: 32-bit PCI PCI1 status: Available length: Short 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: AMD Athlon II X2 255 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: K10 
  family: 10 (16) model-id: 6 stepping: 3 microcode: 10000C8 cache: 
  L1: 256 KiB L2: 2 MiB bogomips: 12456 
  Speed: 3100 MHz min/max: 800/3100 MHz base/boost: 3100/3100 volts: 1.5 V 
  ext-clock: 200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3100 2: 3100 
  Flags: 3dnow 3dnowext 3dnowprefetch abm apic clflush cmov cmp_legacy 
  constant_tsc cpuid cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de extapic extd_apicid fpu fxsr 
  fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibs lahf_lm lbrv lm mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext 
  monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw pae pat pdpe1gb 
  pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rdtscp rep_good sep skinit sse sse2 sse4a svm 
  svm_lock syscall tsc vme vmmcall wdt 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  driver: nvidiafb v: kernel alternate: nouveau bus-ID: 00:0d.0 
  chip-ID: 10de:03d0 class-ID: 0300 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: fbdev,nouveau 
  unloaded: modesetting,vesa alternate: nv display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.0x11.3") 
  s-diag: 583mm (23") 
  Monitor-1: default res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 
  OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 
  compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:05.0 chip-ID: 10de:03f0 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.17.0-11.1-liquorix-amd64 running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
  type: network bridge driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: e480 
  bus-ID: 00:07.0 chip-ID: 10de:03ef class-ID: 0680 
  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Ralink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe vendor: Lite-On 
  driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 port: d000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1814:0781 
  class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
  IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
  WAN IP: <filter> 
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found. 
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found. 
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found. 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 698.64 GiB used: 12.32 GiB (1.8%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST3750528AS 
  family: Barracuda 7200.12 size: 698.64 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B 
  logical: 512 B sata: 2.6 speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 
  serial: <filter> rev: HP35 temp: 32 C scheme: MBR 
  SMART: yes state: enabled health: PASSED on: 53d 17h cycles: 502 Pre-Fail: 
  attribute: Spin_Retry_Count value: 100 worst: 100 threshold: 97 
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: hp model: DVD A DH16ABLH rev: 3HD9 
  dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw 
  Features: speed: 40 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes 
  rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 693.13 GiB size: 681.18 GiB (98.28%) 
  used: 12.32 GiB (1.8%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda1 
  maj-min: 8:1 label: rootantiX21 uuid: aee72af0-ef89-4139-bcbe-a544c99b9c72 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.5 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: swapantiX 
  uuid: 6d217687-2ca8-442f-9edd-6a82740bac35 
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found. 
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 10 rev: 2.0 
  speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 1-9:4 info: Realtek USB 2.0 multicard reader type: Mass Storage 
  driver: ums-realtek interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA 
  chip-ID: 0bda:0158 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter> 
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 10 rev: 1.1 
  speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 2-1:2 info: Primax HP Multimedia Keyboard type: Keyboard,HID 
  driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s 
  power: 100mA chip-ID: 0461:4d8a class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: 2-2:3 info: KYE Systems (Mouse Systems) Trackbar Emotion 
  type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0 
  speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0458:0007 class-ID: 0301 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 28.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  Packages: apt: 1259 lib: 600 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/antix/bullseye bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
  1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list 
  1: deb https://liquorix.net/debian bullseye main
  2: deb-src https://liquorix.net/debian bullseye main
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera.list 
  1: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera stable non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 151 
  1: cpu: 14.4% command: firefox-bin pid: 7021 mem: 242.3 MiB (6.5%) 
  2: cpu: 11.5% command: firefox pid: 6746 mem: 468.0 MiB (12.7%) 
  3: cpu: 1.1% command: xorg pid: 1500 mem: 109.6 MiB (2.9%) 
  4: cpu: 0.8% command: firefox-bin pid: 6852 mem: 115.3 MiB (3.1%) 
  5: cpu: 0.5% command: sudo pid: 15465 mem: 4.81 MiB (0.1%) 
  Memory top: 5 of 151 
  1: mem: 468.0 MiB (12.7%) command: firefox pid: 6746 cpu: 11.5% 
  2: mem: 242.3 MiB (6.5%) command: firefox-bin pid: 7021 cpu: 14.4% 
  3: mem: 115.3 MiB (3.1%) command: firefox-bin pid: 6852 cpu: 0.8% 
  4: mem: 109.6 MiB (2.9%) command: xorg pid: 1500 cpu: 1.1% 
  5: mem: 107.3 MiB (2.9%) command: firefox-bin pid: 6875 cpu: 0.1% 
Info:
  Processes: 151 Uptime: 1h 51m wakeups: 1 Init: runit v: N/A runlevel: 2 
  tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10/9 Shell: inxi-gui (sudo) 
  default: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.06

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Brian Masinick

[Member ModdIt]

Consider important enough to post here.

No issues with
Ungoogled Chromium Nearest I have to googl ping ping Telemetry u.a. spymonster.
Librewolf
Firefox ESR

AntiX 21 ICEWM, Stable and Testing both fully updated. No transformation pack as transformed to my taste already 🙂
Conmann PreferredTechnologies = ethernet,wifi

Maximum Down around 98.8 to low of 94 Mbps

Up as usual slower than it should be 6.09 Mbps

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

I do not see any issues regarding download speeds running antiX-21 installed (64bit) whether testing firefox-esr or google-chrome.

So far only @Wallon has reported this issue.

If other antiX-21 users can confirm one way or another, then we can take a look.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

@Wallon: If you are having that many problems with Chrome-based browsers, maybe it’s time to see which browsers DO work effectively for you.

I don’t see the problems you have, but I’ve managed to put a few config changes into Palemoon 31.0.0 and it behaves similarly to Firefox with a somewhat smaller memory footprint. With the config changes, most other things, particularly using this forum and Webmail (which comprises the bulk of my computing activity these days), work nicely there, and also in Firefox, though I have no problems using Google Chrome, Chromium, or Ungoogled-Chromium.

I hope you find success with another alternative.

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Brian Masinick

[Member calciumsodium]

Hi @Wallon,
Perhaps other members on the forum may have better suggestions.

For me, I think the first thing I would try is to copy the ~/.config/google-chrome folder in the MX linux setup that has google-chrome working for you and copy to the antiX system that you have. (In any case, I would save that folder as a good backup because it has all your extensions and setup.) And then try to launch google-chrome and try it out. If it works, great.

If not, try a different browser in your antiX system, like firefox or librewolf. And then try to do the speedtest. If it works, then the problem is unique to google-chrome on that antiX system.

If trying other browsers produces a bad speedtest on this antiX system, then it may be your antiX system setup. In this case, I would back up important files and folders first. Then do a complete reinstall of antiX.

This is just my own opinion.

[Member calciumsodium]

Hi @Wallon,
I cannot reproduce. On my machine, google-chrome-stable in antiX21 produces a flat curve using speedtest.net to produce 44.16 mbps download and 27.0 mpbs upload. Firefox in the same anti21 system using speedtest.net also produces a flat curve with 47.38 mpbs download and 26.96 mpbs upload.

Using windows 10 on the same machine using speedtest.net I also get a flat curve with 50.86 mpbs download and 20.17 mpbs upload.

Perhaps it is something unique with your antiX21 setup.

[Moderator christophe]

I’m using my chromebook from 2015. I followed some online instructions, and reflashed the bios, so I could totally remove chrome. Now it runs antiX. (I bought it recently just to do this.)

It has a TINY (16 GB) emmc “ssd,” so I keep my installed apps to the essentials, and run from ram (all my antiXes are “frugal/live”). It’s a pretty good little (& light!) machine.

System:    Kernel: 5.10.104-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
           parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/a21base/vmlinuz quiet splash=v bdir=a21base 
           buuid=c1b57a08-e626-4abd-b49d-cc2f27d55de8 toram=store persist_home tz=America/Chicago 
           desktop=fluxbox disable=F hostname=a21base kbd=chromebook 
           Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.7 vt: 7 dm: N/A 
           Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
           base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Candy v: 1.0 serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 9 
           serial: <filter> 
           Mobo: GOOGLE model: Candy v: 1.0 serial: <filter> UEFI: coreboot v: MrChromebox-4.14 
           date: 07/25/2021 
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 41.2 Wh (100.0%) condition: 41.2/44.5 Wh (92.6%) volts: 12.8 
           min: 11.4 model: Samsung DELL XK type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Full cycles: 152 
Memory:    RAM: total: 3.76 GiB used: 1.69 GiB (44.9%) 
           RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
PCI Slots: Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N2840 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Silvermont 
           family: 6 model-id: 37 (55) stepping: 8 microcode: 838 cache: L2: 1024 KiB 
           bogomips: 8666 
           Speed: 1715 MHz min/max: 500/2582 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1715 2: 2502 
           Flags: 3dnowprefetch acpi aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov 
           constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept erms est flexpriority 
           fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe msr mtrr 
           nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 pti rdrand 
           rdtscp rep_good sep smep ss sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 
           tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq tsc_reliable vme vmx vnmi 
           vpid xtopology xtpr 
           Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
           Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
           Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
           Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
           Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
           Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
           Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: 
           disabled, RSB filling 
           Type: srbds status: Not affected 
           Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display driver: i915 
           v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0f31 class-ID: 0300 
           Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:3 
           chip-ID: 0bda:5685 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
           Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
           s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
           Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 136 size: 256x144mm (10.1x5.7") 
           diag: 294mm (11.6") 
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.0 
           direct render: Yes 
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio 
           driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:0f04 class-ID: 0403 
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.104-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
Network:   Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl port: 1000 
           bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b1 class-ID: 0280 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
           IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
           IP v6: <filter> scope: global 
           IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic mngtmpaddr scope: global 
           IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
           WAN IP: <filter> 
Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 
           bus-ID: 1-4:5 chip-ID: 8087:07dc class-ID: e001 
           Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: not found rfk-block: 
           hardware: no software: yes address: see --recommends 
Logical:   Message: No logical block device data found. 
RAID:      Message: No RAID data found. 
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 14.68 GiB used: 2.56 GiB (17.5%) 
           ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1 maj-min: 179:0 vendor: Hynix model: HAG2e size: 14.68 GiB 
           block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0x7 
           scheme: GPT 
           SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data. 
           Message: No optical or floppy data found. 
Partition: ID-1: /live/boot-dev raw-size: 14.63 GiB size: 14.34 GiB (98.00%) 
           used: 2.56 GiB (17.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2 maj-min: 179:2 label: frugals 
           uuid: c1b57a08-e626-4abd-b49d-cc2f27d55de8 
Swap:      Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100) 
           ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 339.1 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100 
           dev: /dev/zram0 
           ID-2: swap-2 type: zram size: 339.1 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100 
           dev: /dev/zram1 
Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1p1 maj-min: 179:1 size: 50 MiB fs: vfat label: EFI uuid: FF88-4506 
USB:       Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
           chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
           Hub-2: 1-2:2 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 100mA 
           chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900 
           Device-1: 1-2.3:4 info: Microchip Composite HID + CDC APP-ESS14-1 
           type: HID,Abstract (modem),CDC-Data driver: cdc_acm,hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 
           rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 04d8:0b28 class-ID: 0a00 serial: <filter> 
           Device-2: 1-3:3 info: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video driver: uvcvideo 
           interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0bda:5685 class-ID: 0e02 
           serial: <filter> 
           Device-3: 1-4:5 info: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: Bluetooth driver: btusb 
           interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 8087:07dc class-ID: e001 
           Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s 
           chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A 
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:     Packages: apt: 1242 lib: 600 
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
           1: deb https: //mirror.us.oneandone.net/linux/distributions/mx/packages/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list 
           1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
           1: deb http: //ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
           Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
           1: deb http: //ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
           2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
           No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Processes: CPU top: 5 of 136 
           1: cpu: 44.0% command: yad pid: 11256 mem: 28.8 MiB (0.7%) 
           2: cpu: 28.9% command: firefox-esr pid: 9233 mem: 168.2 MiB (4.3%) 
           3: cpu: 12.8% command: firefox-esr pid: 9020 mem: 310.2 MiB (8.0%) 
           4: cpu: 4.1% command: xorg pid: 7664 mem: 51.2 MiB (1.3%) 
           5: cpu: 1.3% command: conky pid: 7825 mem: 9.85 MiB (0.2%) 
           Memory top: 5 of 136 
           1: mem: 310.2 MiB (8.0%) command: firefox-esr pid: 9020 cpu: 12.8% 
           2: mem: 168.2 MiB (4.3%) command: firefox-esr pid: 9233 cpu: 28.9% 
           3: mem: 104.5 MiB (2.7%) command: firefox-esr pid: 9117 cpu: 0.4% 
           4: mem: 90.5 MiB (2.3%) command: firefox-esr pid: 9162 cpu: 0.2% 
           5: mem: 65.5 MiB (1.7%) command: firefox-esr pid: 9291 cpu: 0.0% 
Info:      Processes: 136 Uptime: 24m wakeups: 40261 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 
           tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Client: Fluxbox v: 1.3.7 inxi: 3.3.06 

• This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by christophe.

confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

Stock Google Chrome comes in more efficiently than Firefox 100 without a doubt. Looks like Firefox consumes a larger amount of cache memory, presumably for faster site loads; it does seem to get in here quicker than either Palemoon or Google Chrome; otherwise, once here, all of them perform the same tasks and are relatively indistinguishable without doing a “deep dive” to see who they’re sending information to or what they are “saving”.

I’m not particularly concerned about those things; for those of you who are concerned, at least there are multiple alternatives to choose from, including Ungoogled Chromium.

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Brian Masinick

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

Yup, Firefox 100 is using slightly more memory than Google Chrome was, currently 765 M / 3.59 G listed on Conky. I had Google Chrome Unstable taking up 757 M / 3.59 G, similar, but nominally less…
Palemoon is WAY more efficient, though it doesn’t contain EVERY feature the “big” browsers offer. 🙂

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Brian Masinick

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

BTW, I was using Google Chrome Unstable on antiX 21 a few moments ago and it was working well, but I exited, and came back with the recently updated Palemoon 31.0.0 and it consumes MORE than 100 MB LESS resources than an equivalent workload with Chrome Unstable; mind you, Chrome was working fine, but for simple browsing like this forum, Palemoon does the job just as well and with significantly fewer resources. I’ll check regular Google Chrome and Firefox just for comparison, but I think the others consume 75-100 MB more memory for similar workloads.

• This reply was modified 11 months, 3 weeks ago by Brian Masinick.

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Brian Masinick

[Member ModdIt]

andyprough wrote: If older versions of Firefox work so well, why does Mozilla keep changing so much stuff I wonder?

Older versions were not remotely controllable–Marionette or stuffed full with Telemetry and other sneaky ways to deceive
users while harvesting data together with cloudflare google apple and probably others I havent noticed yet.

Brian wrote on banking: Login is secured by codes received by SMS to cell phone.

SMS TAN is now considered insecure by many banks due a lot of succesful attacks on comprimised windoze systems.
The hidden Modern Fox screenshot extension is used by scammers which is why I delete it on every update.

I use Ing, to login with a browser a verified phone with special application is now required, then have to read 2 codes
from the computer screen.
Maybe so the bank can blame any scammed customer where others have to pay compensation.

Maybe I can put a dik in the anchient 386 server when I get some time to spare. That device was built in USA weighs a ton,
and extremely high quality components so sad when it gathers more dust. Be intersting to see how well antiX runs on it.
Should be fine as previous OS was Debian.