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Ok, this started here https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/noob-to-linux-antix-command-m0re/ but I felt starting a more recent discussion would be appropriate.
At first I installed firefox and discovered it had no sound and didn’t just update.
PPC explained in the other thread how to open firefox with sound using something like:
$apulse firefox
However, sybok made a good point about updates. Also, I still had to use an icon on the desktop to get sound.
To get rid of the installed firefox I used:
$ sudo apt-get purge firefoxTo get rid of firefox-esr is answered here:
- https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/purge-firefox/
I see that I can download firefox from the website and run it and it works … except for the sound.
How do I add my offical download of firefox to the applications menu and such?
Is there a longer term solution to fixing the sound?
I have done some searching and reading on this. You do not need to tell me how bad google and firefox are, I agree, lol … maybe Vivaldi is an option? Chromium seems to have installed ok, by the way. In any case, I am working on some html, css, javascript stuff and would like to have some current browsers … and security is generally better with current updates. Peace.Now I am working on this.
In “how to install applications” at:- https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/how-to-install-applications-2020-version/
PPC has:
6- Manually install files :
6.1- “.run” applications or compressed binaries (like “.tar.bz”):
Some software is available as compressed binaries like “.tar.bz” – just uncompress it and run the executable file.
You can get the most recent Mozilla FireFox version in this format.
Pros: safe to use, can’t, as far as I know, break your system (but can perform, as any software, malicious actions).
Easy and safe to uninstall- simple delete the uncompressed files!
Cons: you have to manually setup menu entries and file associations.“.run” applications – almost the same as above, but automaticaly install everything the application need to run once you execute this kind of “installer”.
Some device drivers come in this format.
Cons: as far as I know this can break your system. Try to install only files you know are safe (this is a univerally good advice).(I used ./firefox by the way … to open the one I installed from the website.)
However, this doesn’t say how to add it, make it appear, in the applications list.- This topic was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by DGang.
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Dear, my daughter has an (not so much) old MacBook Air early 2014, 4 Gram.
She cannot upgrade its OS because all the MacOS supported by that Mac are too old.
I’m trying to convince her to test Antix, that my wife and me are using on a daily basis.
In order to let her to make some test, I tried to install Antix 21, full, 64 bit, no runit, on an external USB-HD.The problem, that needs a crystal sphere, is the following:
– the installed system, after update, when I start using Firefox esr on the google home page, freezes. The same phenomenon with Chromium in another page, a bit more “heavy”.
The same problem applies with all the DE and with both the kernels.Please note that:
– when I tested the live on the Macbook air, all is ok: I can navigate multiple pages, also complicated ones;
– I did a memory test, that lasted about 150′, and no problems were reported.
– I tried to re-intall antix other 2 times, with the very same result.I dont know where to investigate
Any help will be appreciated, many thanks in advance!
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Since my old 32bits HP laptop that had antiX 21 on it is currently down, I decided, this weekend to try antiX 64bits, for the very first time on real hardware and I installed it on my old (and very underpowered netbook). I’ll relate my experience here, like if it was the first time I tried to install antiX:
*Creating the live boot media – I downloaded the Linux version I wanted (antiX 21 64bits full) and tried to use the live USB creator – it refused constantly (I unmounted the thumb-drive, I rebooted, etc…) to let me create a live device with persistence (on antiX 19.X, 64 bits)- I gave up and then created the live USB in a couple of minutes… Weird…
*Booting the live media – as always, this worked like a charm. I noticed this: on the GRUB boot menu we can select twice the language we want to use- on the Select Kernel menu and on the Select Boot options – now, selecting the language on the first menu also applies to the second menu- Nice! – but has a tiny bug – the – Fx options are displayed in English on the second menu, and only updated to pt when I select the language again
*Live media performance – for those that never tested antiX in live USB (at least usb 2.0) mode – trust me- you will be fooled into thinking you are running a system already installed on your hard drive – everything just works smoothly and fast (it even seems a tiny bit faster than running the installed version on my hard drive- because my drive is so crappy)
*Installing – hum… A couple of problems here – everything would be fine and dandy if I select the option to install to the entire hard-drive (and delete all other partitions/ Operating systems- but I wanted to keep my backup system- Windows 7, with Word – just in case- I haven’t needed it in the last couple of years, but you never know…)
So I choose the (default) option to keep the existing partitions – and boy – this does look scary – for a user that does not know a lot about partitions (and most of us do not)- it’s like looking at a complex excel spreadsheet displaying lots of detailed information about a subject I know nothing about- what the hell! I just want to install an OS, not apply to an advanced informatics degree!… So I studied every option – and discovered that my old Linux partition, conveniently called by the guy that installed it (antiX-19) is where I should place my system – hum… I heard that Linux does not have a c: drive, all my stuff is kept in my home – so let me select to use that partition as my “home”… and I have one partition called Swap – let me mark to use that as Swap too – Damn- an error complaining that the partition should be at least XXgb? But that partition is 45gb! So I found out, the hard way that the partition where you install antiX can’t be formatted as “Home”, it has to be “root”- weird- why didn’t the installer just warn me that I need to create a “root” partition!!!
-the rest of the install process is a breeze – even in this crappy netbook it’s not just simple, it’s fast – I reached 95% in about 5 minutes or so… and got an error: it could not install something called Grub! It says I can take care of that from live media. I waited for 5 minutes more but nothing – no HD activity – the installer is working, I can click the buttons, move back, etc… But it’s just open, doing nothing- what am I supposed to do? I rebooted… as expected, I got an error saying no grub is found and nothing more- so I boot from the live USB- there should be an easy to see way to recover that Grub thing, right? Nope. So I ran the installer again, exact same settings, same same computer- 95%, 96%, 97%, 98%, 99%… I began to chew my nails… 100% Success!! What the hell, I did nothing different an now it works?*Booting my new installed Operating System
-Damn- this thing may look like the poor, long forgotten twin brother of Windows 98, but is as fast as the wind!
-On the Control Center thingie is something that says “Update” – let me try – we should always keep our system up to date, right? I’ll bet it will take ages and some 50% of my hard drive… What? The update is almost 300mb but it will just take a couple mb of disk space? What sorcery is this? After some minutes of staring to some strange text running past by me on a black screen I see the best sight I ever got in my computer life – a simple window telling me that my Update was finished- no multiple reboots needed, nothing – everything is just ready to be used- has Windows been bs me all my life with that overcomplicated update process?
-Is there a way to make this thing look a bit more like… hummm… it was made in the XXI century? I read about something called Ft10-transformation on the forum – let me check that out- hum… It’s not in the “App store”… Oh! It’s in this complicated other app store, called Synaptic – it took me some 10 minutes to figure out how to install something – it has so many options! Ok. I installed it- everything just looks the same – do I have to run something? I use that app finder thingie and see I have a quazzilion of stuff saying FT10 – let me try this that says “enable FT10″… Ok, one config window, another one… I bet this will take hours… What? More sorcery? This now looks even better than Windows 10? Who is the guy that created this? I want to tell Microsoft to hire him and bring Windows back from the dark side… hum… dark ages!-Some stuff like the browser, the office suite and some menu entries are not in my language!!! Help!!! Wait… when I searched for “language” on this new handy menu I got a hit- hooo! I just selected to “localize” my system and now, after some more black window thingies, everything now speaks my language- just half a dozen menu entries are still in English, and that file finder thingie (searchmonkey- are they kinding me? Why does this Linux thing have such weird names for apps? Couldn’t it be just “search” or “file search”?)… Now,, why does not this Language thingie part of the install process? that would be sweet!
*Installing applications- I need to install some apps – a faster browser, a more up to date Office suit, Java… let me use that handy little “app store” – I selected some 20 apps and clicked install – ok- I get that black window thingie again- boy Linux has some kind of kink with black windows? – and it says it’s done. No, I don’t want to install anything else…
What? Why did only a couple of my apps get installed???
Let me try installing one by one – man… This sucks… Let me select again, and install, one at a time (is this the dark ages?): palemoon browser (I’ve hear it light, it should run on my crappy netbook), ungoogled chromium browser (this should be nice- I don’t want google snooping all around, I just want to use the free stuff they allow me to use, he he he!!!), pulseaudio (I think Linux has some sound problems without it, sometimes)… and I need Java for work… some nice casual games, like Patience, for my free time and… SuperTuxKart? I heard it’s like that SuperMarioKart I never played when I was a kid because I was too broke to have a gaming console…
I do love e-books, so Calibre should be handy… and non-free codecs should be handy… CUPS and HP stuff for my printer at work… Ok, I think I’m good.*Testing the system after I set it up with everything I want:
–Network – I set up my Wi-Fi without any problems, I can even access my shared folders!
–Browsing and internet related stuff– Browsing is ok – some sites take ages to load – YouTube only loads fast and with an ok video quality in Chromium, but for everything else I think firefox-esr (most compatibility), seamonkey and palemoon will do just fine. Smtube, already provided out of the box, allows me to stream YouTube videos perfectly, even in higher quality and in full screen, without ads, even on this crummy old computer? Linux, I love you! and an appimage called electronplayer allows me watch streaming services perfectly, like Netflix? and seamonkey e-mail can even be configured to access my Gmail? and this ft10-cloud thingies lets me get cloud drives, like my google drive on my File Manager? Sweet
–Office – the latest office suite, perfectly localized, and running at an acceptable speed on this old machine- great! And I can even open docx documents, without Ms Office? This has to be a scam, right? Nothing can be that good and be for free…
–File compatibility– Audio – my old audio files play great, Pictures, pdfs, everything look ok. Video- very old video files play fine. That HD video I took of my baby girl dancing? It’s… Slow, same as in Windows – let me see if there’s a way around that (hum a guy said to install Xine media player with sudo apt install xine-ui…) What this old beast plays HD video files perfectly with Xine? I could not do that with Windows 7… Again- are this Linux guys into Black magic or what?
–Gaming – I have some light games, like solitaire, chess and soduku, they run great- they are free, without ads and help pass the time, sometimes… Even that supertuxkart is playable in antiX 21, just barely – because it’s kinda of slow – on this video card that shares 8mb of my precious 1 gb of RAM! Even so, I can play an up to date 3d game on this old Windows 7 era netbook that was crappy even when it came out? Sweet!
–Sound – this netbook sound has always been crappy, even in Windows… Let me pull the volume to the max, to amplification to the max, on this pauv thingie I found out on the menu… Oh… My… Godddd…! I can hear everything perfectly – pulseaudio never worked on this computer when I was using antiX 19… This is not sorcery, it’s a miracle!!!
–Video – now… I’ve been trying to keep this light, from a newbie’s point of view, but there is something really wrong with video support – with antiX 21 and my intel video drivers- I can play video files just fine, but a couple of times now, for unknown reasons, when I try to open a video file the video player crashes- if I use the terminal I can see errors with the video driver – both mpv and xine complain about it- if I restart the session, everything just works…Overall impression:
antix 21, 64bits, particularly with ft10-transformation, pulseaudio, xine media player and up to date applications makes even the cheapest and crappiest 64bits netbook look and feel like a middle range modern netbook running Windows or MacOS – if you have a device with less than 10 years or so- it will literally make your computer fly for most common tasks…
I have only to report, after about half day some random problem that seems to affect the part of the video driver that enables the system to play video files- restarting the session solves that instantly.
After so many problems with pulseaudio it’s a relief seeing, or rather, earing it work perfectly – I can say I never, ever heard such clear sound coming out of those tiny speakers, I though they just could not perform that good!
I give it a 98% rating on this old netbook (100% as soon as I can solve that video problem)- the problem with installing many apps with Package Installer is just a small nuisance !!!P.
- This topic was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by PPC.
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https://chromereleases.googleblog.com/
Google doesn’t appear to have a calendar quite the same as the one I found for the Nightly, Beta, Release, and Extended Support Release (ESR) versions of Firefox, but I did find a blog from which you can get some useful information, especially if you want to test future, upcoming releases of Google Chrome (or other Google products) and you want to make sure the features you are interested in actually WORK.
(By the way, that’s one reason I have such a high degree of “success” with these various tools, browsers, and editors; over the years I have repeatedly used test software, found and reported a few bugs I wanted to see fixed, and I make sure things continue to work the way I’d like to see, and if I want a different result, I ask for a feature or report a defect, document it as well as I can and explain what results and features I need. It works well for me; I’ve had 3-4 things fixed over the past 25-30 years and I keep on top of them with a few systems; if something regresses, I report that too; being faithful to test, document, explain and report really does HELP!)
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Brian Masinick