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[Moderator christophe]

In particular, from the 2nd link above:

On a bare X window manager (i3wm, bspwm, awesomewm …)

On the keyboard shortcuts section of your WM config file, you need to add a shortcut to launch nnn in a terminal. Here’s is an example for sxhkd, you need to change xfce4-terminal to the terminal you want to use:

## File Manager
super + n
xfce4-terminal -e “nwrap $*”

confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

Out of the blue, an idea came to me- unlike in many other OS, in antiX we can’t pin a window to the left or to the right, by dragging it. It’s true that we do have keyboard shortcuts for that… But I would like to present the idea for a different way to make the focused window tile to the left or right half of the screen, or to the top or bottom half of the screen…
A simple script that reads the coordinates of your mouse pointer and then “tile” the focused window near to the place that you alt + click: example:
if the user clicks in the, say 60 pixels in middle left part of the screen, the focused window takes up the left side of the screen, etc.

I came up with this because I have bad memory and can’, for the life of me, memorize the keybings…
If anyone else thinks this may be useful, I can try taking a stab at writing the script.

I didn’t check on-line if a similar solution was ever implemented…

P.

• This topic was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by PPC.

[Member ModdIt]

Just a further note
ALL users I support install own system, just need a bit of help and explanation,
Partitions, for old persons like containers for portions of cake, need right size for stuff to fit.

For the young, majority are really quick to learn, it would after all be embarrasing when the 70
Plus grey haired old fart next to them was wiser in tech than they are. I never look down on even the
slowest, just tell them come on, you can understand and do it, come on lets try again together.

Not one user has gone back to daily use of windoze on own devices, exception boot to games..
one went to an i Pad, my daughter, she was forced by school policy and uses it next to linux.
That is a fact I find very interesting, it generaly happens due frustration and is a slow change.
Screwed up windoze 10 updates were a real motivator for change.

I make nutty funny as possible cheat sheets at times. Fun things are easier to memorise.
Despair trying to teach keyboard shortcuts. Email Office one browser are ready for use after login,
all autostart to assigned desktops.

Start icons are on autohiding taskbar, not much need for menu. It is sleek liooks good fast and lean.
Usable screen is maximised with a thinnest theme BobC made.

I distro hopped for many years, see no reason to move anymore.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by ModdIt.

[Moderator BobC]

I liked the concept of tiling at some point when I used an editor called Brief back in 1987 to edit many files at once under DOS 6. That was certainly better than a single window. DeskView was an improvement allowing multiple floating DOS windows that could be placed and sized wherever on the screen.

PS: Try Midnight commander (mc) as your terminal based file manager

I see tiled windows as an unimproved windowing system, basically limiting how I can use my screens. Yes, I’ve tried different tiling WM’s and IceWM’s tiled setup, but they lack the flexibility that antiX’s IceWM setup has with WinGrid including the Center, Zoom, Shrink, Grow and Maximize with have been added, in concert with IceWM’s standard WinArrange, both hooked to the numeric keypad rose, and IceWM’s ability to open designated apps in optionally designated workspaces with designated size, position and other attributes is a much more efficient setup, that allows you to define a windowing “scheme” that provides the most efficient for the tasks you use your computer for. Many Moddit threads and posts are oriented towards improving the workflow by tweaking the setups.

When you add in the ability to startup designated apps, and its builtin toolbar, a simple and efficient launcher, of all the WM’s available, IceWM makes my life the easiest, and works even on old, slow, memory constrained systems without any noticeable delays. The only lackings I see are the inability to track menu and toolbar options used, which would make simple self tuning possible, and lack of easy to use, built in, setup programs for the startup, toolbar and keys.

We have to use external scripts or edit the setup files with an editor, which is fine for the programmer types like me out there, but not for non-programmers. People like PPC have come up with add on’s to help, but it would be nice if these tools were more comprehensive.

I read IceWM has tiling options, and I think I tried it at some point. Its controlled in preferences.

from: https://raymii.org/s/blog/Using_IceWM_and_sharing_my_config_and_tips_tricks.html
Window Snapping / Expose / Tiling

I like the Window Snapping feature of KDE (and Windows), so I’ve configured the following shortcuts in my .icewm/keys file:

key “Alt+Left” icesh -f left top sizeto 50% 100%
key “Alt+Right” icesh -f right top sizeto 50% 100%

This allows me to press Alt plus an arrow key to get a window resized exactly to half the screen, either left or right.

If it doesn’t work, make sure the window is not maximized (press ALT+F10).

My tiling window manager of choice is Awesome, but to my surprise IceWM has two built-in keyboard shortcuts to tile windows:

# Tiles all windows from top to bottom maximized horizontally.
# KeySysTileHorizontal=”Alt+Shift+F3″

# Tiles all windows from left to right maximized vertically.
# KeySysTileVertical=”Alt+Shift+F2″

You learn a lot when you read through the config files.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by BobC.
• This reply was modified 1 year, 6 months ago by BobC.

[Moderator christophe]

64-bit live-usb.
Opera browser does not install from the package installer (on 64 & 32-bit).
Supertuxkart installs from package installer, but on modern kernel, it freezes my system. mouse moves, but clicks do not register; keyboard shortcuts don’t work.
On legacy kernel, supertuxkart wll get to offline/online account page, then freezes. keyboard shortcut to xkill works, & system recovers.
I don’t know if it’s my system that’s the cause or not; but you asked for any package installer anomalies, so I mention it.
My system, in case it’s useful:

System:
  Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 
  compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht disable=lxF lang=en_US 
  kbd=us tz=US/Central p_static_root desktop=fluxbox disable=lxF 
  Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.5 dm: N/A 
  Distro: antiX-21-b2_x64-full Grup Yorum 6 September 2021 
  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Candy v: 1.0 serial: HR83B52 Chassis: 
  type: 9 serial: N/A 
  Mobo: GOOGLE model: Candy v: 1.0 serial: QTFMOS0I55013845 UEFI: coreboot 
  v: MrChromebox-4.14 date: 07/25/2021 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.0 Wh (88.9%) condition: 41.6/44.5 Wh (93.5%) 
  volts: 12.2 min: 11.4 model: Samsung DELL XK type: Li-ion serial: 6246 
  status: Discharging cycles: 139 
Memory:
  RAM: total: 3.78 GiB used: 827.1 MiB (21.4%) 
  Array-1: capacity: 4 GiB slots: 2 EC: <OUT OF SPEC> max-module-size: 2 GiB 
  note: est. 
  Device-1: Channel-0-DIMM-0 size: 2 GiB speed: 1333 MT/s type: DDR3 
  detail: unknown synchronous bus-width: 64 bits total: 64 bits 
  manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M471B5674QH0-YK0 serial: N/A 
  Device-2: Channel-1-DIMM-0 size: 2 GiB speed: 1333 MT/s type: DDR3 
  detail: unknown synchronous bus-width: 64 bits total: 64 bits 
  manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M471B5674QH0-YK0 serial: N/A 
PCI Slots:
  Message: No PCI Slot data found. 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N2840 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Silvermont family: 6 model-id: 37 (55) stepping: 8 microcode: 838 
  cache: L1: 112 KiB L2: 1024 KiB bogomips: 8663 
  Speed: 913 MHz min/max: 500/2582 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1387 2: 959 
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch acpi aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush 
  cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept erms est 
  flexpriority fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear 
  mmx monitor movbe msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pclmulqdq pdcm 
  pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rdrand rdtscp rep_good sep smep ss sse sse2 
  sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust 
  tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid xtopology xtpr 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0f31 class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus-ID: 1-3:4 chip-ID: 0bda:5685 class-ID: 0e02 serial: 0001 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0") 
  s-diag: 414mm (16.3") 
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 136 size: 256x144mm (10.1x5.7") 
  diag: 294mm (11.6") 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 
  compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:0f04 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel modules: wl 
  port: 1000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:08b1 class-ID: 0280 
  IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 10:4a:7d:12:48:91 
  IP v4: 10.0.0.11/24 scope: global broadcast: 10.0.0.255 
  IP v6: 2601:249:f80:d90:124a:7dff:fe12:4891/64 scope: global 
  IP v6: fe80::124a:7dff:fe12:4891/64 scope: link 
  WAN IP: 2601:249:f80:d90:124a:7dff:fe12:4891 
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:6 
  chip-ID: 8087:07dc class-ID: e001 
  Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: stopped 
  rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes address: 10:4A:7D:12:48:95 
  Info: acl-mtu: 1021:5 sco-mtu: 96:6 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff 
  link-mode: slave accept 
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found. 
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found. 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 58.24 GiB used: 13.52 GiB (23.2%) 
  ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 maj-min: 179:0 vendor: Hynix model: HAG2e 
  size: 14.68 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD 
  serial: 0x8715c88b scheme: GPT 
  SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data. 
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer U 
  size: 14.91 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A 
  serial: 4C530101200519118200 rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR 
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: SanDisk model: Cruzer Fit 
  size: 28.65 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A 
  serial: 4C530000211007114220 rev: 1.00 scheme: GPT 
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure? 
  Message: No optical or floppy data found. 
Partition:
  ID-1: /live/boot-dev raw-size: 14.86 GiB size: 14.79 GiB (99.53%) 
  used: 4.52 GiB (30.6%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda1 
  maj-min: 8:1 label: antiX-Live-usb 
  uuid: ebb7fd90-886d-46e6-9e23-b982d5da5049 
  ID-2: /media/antiX-uefi raw-size: 50 MiB size: 49.9 MiB (99.77%) 
  used: 7.2 MiB (14.5%) fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/sda2 
  maj-min: 8:2 label: antiX-uefi uuid: B445-360F 
  ID-3: /media/aux raw-size: 28.65 GiB size: 28.08 GiB (97.99%) 
  used: 8.99 GiB (32.0%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdb1 
  maj-min: 8:17 label: aux uuid: f6eea4d8-f80f-4e8f-83b4-706194a4255a 
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found. 
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0boot0 maj-min: 179:8 size: 4 MiB fs: N/A label: N/A 
  uuid: N/A 
  ID-2: /dev/mmcblk0boot1 maj-min: 179:16 size: 4 MiB fs: N/A label: N/A 
  uuid: N/A 
  ID-3: /dev/mmcblk0p1 maj-min: 179:1 size: 50 MiB fs: vfat label: EFI 
  uuid: FF88-4506 
  ID-4: /dev/mmcblk0p2 maj-min: 179:2 size: 14.63 GiB fs: ext4 
  label: frugals uuid: c1b57a08-e626-4abd-b49d-cc2f27d55de8 
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 
  speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 1-1:2 info: SanDisk Cruzer U type: Mass Storage 
  driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 224mA 
  chip-ID: 0781:55a5 class-ID: 0806 serial: 4C530101200519118200 
  Hub-2: 1-2:3 info: Genesys Logic 4-port hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 
  speed: 480 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900 
  Device-1: 1-2.1:5 info: SanDisk Cruzer Fit type: Mass Storage 
  driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 200mA 
  chip-ID: 0781:5571 class-ID: 0806 serial: 4C530000211007114220 
  Device-2: 1-2.3:7 info: Microchip Composite HID + CDC APP-ESS14-1 
  type: HID,Abstract (modem),CDC-Data driver: cdc_acm,hid-generic,usbhid 
  interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 04d8:0b28 
  class-ID: 0a00 serial: No Support 
  Device-3: 1-3:4 info: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video 
  driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA 
  chip-ID: 0bda:5685 class-ID: 0e02 serial: 0001 
  Device-4: 1-4:6 info: Intel type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 
  rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 8087:07dc class-ID: e001 
  Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 1 rev: 3.0 
  speed: 5 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Repos:
  Packages: apt: 1572 lib: 741 
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
  1: deb https://mirror.us.oneandone.net/linux/distributions/mx/packages/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list 
  1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
  1: deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
  2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list 
  1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 143 
  1: cpu: 41.3% command: firefox-esr pid: 5348 mem: 231.7 MiB (5.9%) 
  2: cpu: 11.3% command: firefox-esr pid: 5263 mem: 350.9 MiB (9.0%) 
  3: cpu: 3.9% command: xorg pid: 4379 mem: 63.6 MiB (1.6%) 
  4: cpu: 3.2% command: sudo pid: 6827 mem: 5.00 MiB (0.1%) 
  5: cpu: 2.7% command: roxterm pid: 6785 mem: 34.3 MiB (0.8%) 
  Memory top: 5 of 143 
  1: mem: 350.9 MiB (9.0%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5263 cpu: 11.3% 
  2: mem: 231.7 MiB (5.9%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5348 cpu: 41.3% 
  3: mem: 129.9 MiB (3.3%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5432 cpu: 0.2% 
  4: mem: 112.2 MiB (2.8%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5399 cpu: 0.3% 
  5: mem: 77.0 MiB (1.9%) command: firefox-esr pid: 5470 cpu: 0.0% 
Info:
  Processes: 143 Uptime: 13m wakeups: 3 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 
  default: 5 tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash (sudo) 
  v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.06 

confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

[Member sybok]

Hi,

I am not 100% sure I understand your post, thus my reply may not be an answer that clarifies/solves your problem.
If if does not, please provide minimal working and non-working examples for me/others to test.
Also, I have never attempted to run binaries from spacefm, I am more of a keyboard (CLI/terminal/keyboard-shortcuts) type.

CODING EXPERIENCE/PRACTICE:
I always start scripts I want to call directly (no imports or via other scripts) with the ‘#’ symbol followed by the appropriate binary OR I call them with explicit specification of the binary/interpreter.
That works as my below examples (Case I, 1.B) + 2.B) and Case II, 1.A) + 2.A)) demonstrate.

EXAMPLE (CALLED FROM TERMINAL):
I created some simple scripts (as standard user) and I have attempted to call them from terminal:
1) hello1[ab].sh

#!/bin/sh
echo "Hello

2) hello2[ab].sh
echo "Hello"

The permissions are following:

ls -lh hello*.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 ... hello1a.sh
-rwxr--r-- 1 ... hello1b.sh
-rw-r--r-- 1 ... hello2a.sh
-rwxr--r-- 1 ... hello2b.sh

i.e. the 1b) and 2b) are executable.

I) Calling from terminal as: ‘./<scriptname>’
1.A) + 2.A): Error “Permission denied”
1.B) + 2.B): “Hello” as expected

II) Calling from terminal as: ‘bash <scriptname>’ <– the “interpreter” explicitly specified
1-2.A) + 1-2.B): Print “Hello”

Scripts called without elevated permissions (no root/sudo) from my ‘/home’ which is mounted as follows (according to ‘/etc/fstab’):
UUID=... /home ext4 defaults,noatime 1 2

According to man-page of mount, ‘defaults’ is equivalent to: rw, suid, dev, exec, auto, nouser.
‘exec’ means that the executable files can be executed.

DRIVE/PARTITION PERMISSIONS:
There was another post on the forum that revealed that ‘auto’ was used in mount and it set the permissions not to run executable files (‘noexec’) by default but explicit calling from terminal such as
sh <scriptname>
worked well.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by sybok. Reason: Close all tags

[Member Xecure]

palacca wrote:

I’d have another question. Is there a way to set keyboard shortcuts to work as in MacOS (ex. cmd+w for closing tab), as I was previously used to them?

You need to add more options to the XKBOPTIONS variable.
For cmd <=> Control switch (I think this is what you need), you need to also use the option “altwin2:cmd_n_ctrl”
setxkbmap -option "apple:badmap,altwin2:cmd_n_ctrl"
or add it to XKBOPTIONS in /etc/default/keyboard and restart.

You can see all options available if you expand the Keyboard_selection table for live boot parameters (for “Option code – keyboard Options”). I initially created the table for live-usb but the codes are the same for XKBOPTIONS in installed.
Ignore above. I never included any mac related keyboard options. Sorry for the misleading link.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by Xecure.
• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by Xecure.

antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

[Member palacca]

I’d have another question. Is there a way to set keyboard shortcuts to work as in MacOS (ex. cmd+w for closing tab), as I was previously used to them?

[Member PPC]

calciumsodium wrote:

Another suggestion:
Perhaps remove the file manager as root icon in the toolbar. Could be very dangerous if a person does not what they are doing.

I think Xecure already took care of that! 🙂

And strangely enough, keyboard shortcuts – copy and paste does not work on my roxterm… I’ll check it out with more detail…

P.

[Member calciumsodium]

Dave wrote:

#2 Control + Shift + [c,v] Does not work?

I must have misread @PPC suggestion #2. I thought: Preconfigure keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in rox-filer.

You can do: Control + Shift + [c,v] in roxterm.

As I understand it, in rox-filer, if one highlights more than one item, to copy it using keyboard Ctrl + C will not let you do it. It says:

You cannot do this to more than one item at a time

What I thought PPC was suggesting was, for example, if a rox-filer window had five items and I highlight 3 of them and copy them using a keyboard shortcut. And in another rox-filer window, I can paste them using another keyboard shortcut.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by calciumsodium.

[Member calciumsodium]

PPC wrote:

Preconfigure keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in roxterm

This would be a great feature to have. Thanks for the suggestion.

I’m been testing antix 21 beta2 runit version in a Virtual Machine, and I’ve seeing just about any bug/problem that was detected solved almost instantly, but I have some small suggestions, mainly on usability:

1- Include a GUI .deb package installer- I made a tiny script that works in a similar fashion to antiX-updater- that reduces to a minimum the contact between the user and the terminal- “debinstaller”, available in the antiX-contribs git… any other light.deb package installer will do
2- Preconfigure keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste in roxterm
3- Add the toolbar icon manager to the icewm toolbar- so newbies know, right from the start that they can add/remove icons, and old time users waste less time adding/removing icons. If an advanced user does not like the icon there, it’s an easy edit, to remove it
4- add more wallpapers than those that come in the beta- they are great, yes, but, in my opinion there should be at least one for every slimski theme (I guess they are missing because the final version is not out yet)
5- Are you interested in having a small script, that runs after installation/on first boot, that offers to download the language packages for LibreOffice and Firefox, or even have that option available in the control center (it can check if libreoffice, firefox-esr, firefox or thunderbird are installed and offer to download the relevant packages)- if there’s interest, I can try to work on such script, on my free time… this is nor exclusive to antiX (I read that Manjaro users have the same problem) but bugs a bit not English speaking users…
6- Include a trash can / recycle bin- with a few tweaks spacefm/zzzfm can be made to use one, no extra packages or extensions needed- or you can include the “trash-cli” package out of the box or, at least make it available on the Package Installer
7- There’s a great deal of care in localizing applications used in antiX, I know… But one very important one is not localized- the connmann GUI… I saw, I’m not sure if in the official connmann GUI git, that it had localization files in pt- it would be great if a version with localization support was included in antiX – if needed, I could try writing a yad script that listed all available wi-fi networks and allowed the user to select one [and show a “Please your wi-fi password” window, created the config file] and connect to it. This script can be localized easily…
8- I’ve been playing with the idea of an enhancement to T.I.M.- that would allow the user to add to the toolbar any currently running application- it’s not exactly drag and drop, but some users may (or not) find this useful. Any input on this?

Even without applying any of this suggestions, antiX 21 is already the best antiX version to date, so my thanks to the dev team!

P.

[Member ModdIt]

Hi BobC,
after half a day solely using menu on Bullseye a2 Beta then getting fed up and setting up task bar starters
my thoughts went in the same direction as yours.
To me the only more efficient way to start applications than the toolbar would be keyboard shortcuts.

That would put off many users, autohiding taskbar is user friendly, as you note adding applications not always so
easy. I was reminded of that while creating starters for appimages today. I use ungoogled chromium and Librewolf
quite a lot. Site compatibility problems otherwise.

I think the idea of populating the taskbar based on usage a pretty good idea as long as a mechanism exists to lock
starter buttons in position and to prevent automagic removal of not so often used but important items.

I still have buttons for some autostarting applications, I set Claws to autostart to desktop one for majority of users.
For others placement of applications to a specified desktop is very useful. Moddit standard is 6 desktops which works
fine, even on my eepc.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by ModdIt.

[Member Xecure]

“I see bloat”
People see the menus -> A lot of programs -> “Bloat”
People see more than one program for the same function (more than 1 window manager, more than one text editor, more than one file manager, more than one image viewer, more than one Video player, more than one Web Browser) -> “Bloat”

“This distro has missing features”
People don’t see their preferred Video player (vlc) -> “Missing features”
People don’t see their preferred Email client (thunderbird) -> “Missing features”
People don’t see their preferred Image editor (Gimp) -> “Missing features”
People don’t see the “standard” keyboard shortcuts -> “Missing features”

“Cannot easily configure the system”
People never click the Control Centre -> “Too difficult to change things”
People don’t see an easy GUI to change “X-Y-Z” and need to edit files -> “Too difficult to change things”

You cannot win against the general mentality.
You give them options = bloat.
You reduce software selection to the minimum to “de-bloat” = Missing features.
You give one good option (they don’t like) = Missing features.
You try to keep it lean and mean = “Too difficult to change things”
You create tools to make it easier to manage and configure the system = “bloat, too many programs”.

You cannot win.
People superficially decide what is bloat when exploring the menus. If they feel the menus have “few but well known (heavy) apps” = Great distro. If they seem very long lists in the menus = “bloat”.

I will eventually agree with those who say “remove the entries in Control Centre from the menus”, or “Create an app to list only antiX programs (goodies) and remove them from the menus”. Is this where we have to go so people say “It is clean and has no bloat”?

Petition: If at any point the dev team wants to remove “duplicate” menu entries, please, instead of removing the .desktop files from /usr/share/applications, have them include (inside the file) the option
NoDisplay=True
so that they don’t show in the menu by default but I can still enable their view when I want them (instead of having to create the .desktop launcher manually).

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[Member PPC]

I just tested runit beta2 on a virtual machine:
-It feels fast
-It looks great – I love the new desktops, the new log-in manager
-I tip my hat to skidoo and the folks that themed the log-in manager- it looks amazing for a low footprint piece of software! And it’s localized too!… This leads to the next point:
-antiX is now much more localized- stuff like set time & date, select new wallpaper, now are multi-lingual.
– I’m a great fan of zzzfm- I helped test it and translate it- if you choose a desktop that starts with “zzz” you’ll end up with a a spacefm spin off that runs fast, with almost the same RAM foot print as the default Rox file manager. I liked the fact that it comes as secondary File Manager and now shows the bookmarks and the devices list- looking very similar to User Interface most people are used to
– About the RAM usage, on zzz-icewm it runs on about 150 mb on my virtual box test- pretty nice for a latest version of Debian- I haven’t tested it much…
– I tested HerbWM- true that I had a bit more experience with it, but now, clicking the “tag” on the top, made it much more usable for someone that (like I’ve always been- knows a few keyboard shortcuts but is too used to click on stuff)
– What the hell? It comes with Firefox ESR AND Firefox? Or was that a dmenu bug, on herbWM?

Suggestions-
-unplugdrive.sh- I’m not aware of the security risks, but Robin suggested a way to automatically run the script in root mode- most users won’t like having to type the password to eject a pendrive…
-On zzz-icewm- the “root file manager” toolbar icon lunched “rox” not “zzzfm in root mode”
-Use pt-br gksu localization files as pt-pt localization files- the gksu interface in pt-pt is unlocalized- it’s a shame that something as important has the prompt to enter a password is not localized (true that about 99% of users probably understand what it means…- but hey, there’s already a localization file available… might as well use it)
-…When I have the time to test it a bit more, I’ll have some more suggestions…

Note- testing b2 on virtualbox made the vm crash- opening a web site in herbWM, in firefox- virtualbox now crashes every time I try to click that vm now… I’ll reboot and try again…

Verdict:
I only tested it for less than 10 minutes before my VM craped out but this version looks great, feels snappier, is almost completely localized.
It feels polished- it’s almost like having a shiny new device instead of a PC that is almost old enough to vote…
As always my thanks to anti and to the entire dev team and translator team!

[Side note- I recently made my first convert to antiX- a friend had a crappy 32 bits netbook with Windows XP!!! On it- it did not work correctly any more so, antix 19.4, 32 bits to the rescue- it’s now a fully working netbook, although a bit slow doing some harder stuff like rendering very complex webpages, opening LibreOffice, etc- but nothing out of the ordinary- when I said I helped develop the script that I was using to set the time and date, he asked me: “This stuff is great! Why don’t you retire and live off this? With a sad smile I replied- because the folks that make this, like me, do it for free… He didn’t really get, it wasn’t some pirated software I was installing, that it really was completely free and legal)

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• This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by PPC.