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  • #36685
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    PPC

      @Xecure:
      When I was copying stuff into Roxterm my muscle memory kept telling me something was missing… Now I know what 🙂
      But, in my particular case, there’s no harm done: I past stuff to run commands, I don’t paste anything to a terminal that’s running an active program… Yeah, I know… If I accidentally try to paste into a “busy” terminal, I’ll stop what it’s doing…

      Anyway: to be on the safe side, users that configure this keyboard shortcuts should use CTRL+ Shift + C and CTRL+ Shift + V

      P.

      #36672
      Member
      Xecure

        Thanks, PPC. It is good to know an easy way to add shortcuts to Roxterm.

        I have a sugestion though.

        — Hover your mouse cursor above “Edit- copy” and press, on the keyboard the CTRL and C keys (the shortcut appears on the menu)

        If you use Control+C to copy, you will have to edit the shortcut to stop a program from executing in the terminal, that is usually set to Control+C on most terminal emulators. That is why on most terminal emulators Control+Shift+C is the shortcut used to copy, to not override the “stop program” hotkey.

        antiX Live system enthusiast.
        General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

        #36600
        Member
        PPC

          Recently I had to copy and paste a lot in (the default) roxterm and noticed it had no keyboard shortcuts, so I searched on-line and, in a couple of minutes found a quick way to configure any shortcuts I need:

          1- Open Roxterm
          2- Go to Preferences menu – Configuration manager – “Shortcuts” tab. Make sure that the you have ticked the box that says “enable edition” and click “Ok”
          3- Configuring keyboard shortcuts- simple go to the roxterm menu and hover the mouse pointer above the option you want to add a shortcut. Press the key combo you want to assign to that option and it automatically appears on the menu. You can now use that keyboard shortcut.
          4- After you have set all the keyboard shortcuts you want, go back to Preferences menu – Configuration manager – “Shortcuts” tab. Untick “enable edition” and click “Ok”, so you don’t accidentally change your shortcuts.

          Example: On step 3 try this:
          — Hover your mouse cursor above “Edit- copy” and press, on the keyboard the CTRL and C keys (the shortcut appears on the menu)
          — Hover your mouse cursor above “Edit- paste” and press, on the keyboard the CTRL and V keys (the shortcut appears on the menu)
          — Hover your mouse cursor above “File- New Tab” and press, on the keyboard the CTRL and T keys (the shortcut appears on the menu)

          You can now use CTR L+ C to copy, CTRL+ V to paste and CTRL+ T to open a new tab.

          I hope someone finds these tip useful, I sure did, after almost 3 years using antiX!

          P.

          • This topic was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by PPC.
          #34946
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          BobC

            I see a few brave souls actually downloaded my latest 32 bit version. The Slim delete saves about 5 mb of memory on my smaller machines.

            I have dome more thinking on the conky. I’m thinking of just not running conky at all. The only really important things there to me are:

            What is the main Help key? If you know that you can find out what all the other keyboard shortcuts are, including the one that turns the conky on and off

            How much space is left on the /home or / partitions? That always seems to be an issue. All the time on the 32 bit machines, with their small drives. I seem to hit it while making an ISO or downloading something, especially. I really wish it was built into the window manager on the status bar, but I’m too cheap to pay 25 mb of memory for it using one of the add-ons. The other things the conky shows that aren’t down on the status bar aren’t really things I need to keep an eye on all the time, just nice to be able to see when I want the info.

            #34881
            Member
            Xecure

              Without a terminal I’m dead in the water

              When having problems with the desktop, linux always gives you possibilities.
              Right now you are in tty7 (Control+Alt+F7). You can move to tty1 (Control+Alt+F1) which will “load” a text base terminal (you can always return to your “desktop” with Control+Alt+F7)
              Log in with your user and password and now you can do things in terminal.

              Starting from core the first time is hard. I think you could make it as antiX-like as possible and start experimenting from there. You may follow this mini-guide if you want, I will guide you to a minimally antiX-like fluxbox session for you to start experimenting. If you feel too lost right now, maybe this will help you. You can stop at any step of the way and continue with your own experiments.
              0. Move to tty1 and log in as your user.

              1. Install RoxTerm and antiX’s custom fluxbox, spaceFM and rox “configurations”
              sudo apt install roxterm desktop-defaults-rox-antix desktop-defaults-fluxbox-antix desktop-defaults-spacefm-antix

              2. Make .fluxbox folder backup, copy antiX custom fluxbox, spacefm and roxterm configurations

              cp -r ~/.fluxbox/ ~/.fluxbox-old
              cp -r /etc/skel/.fluxbox/ ~/
              cp -r /etc/skel/.config/roxterm.sourceforge.net/ ~/.config/
              cp -r /etc/skel/.config/spacefm/ ~/.config/

              Now you can return to tty7 (Control+Alt+F7), restart fluxbox (if needed) and at least you have antiX default menu and “terminal” entry will launch roxterm. You may have to change the fluxbox “theme” (style) as “Blueday” is missing.
              Before returning to tty7 you will have to edit the fluxbox menu
              nano ~/.fluxbox/menu
              Jump to step 3a. (use x-terminal-emulator for the future, in case you change your terminal in the future, or use {roxterm} as the command).
              Once you are happy with the changes, save (Control+X, look at the bottom part of the screen).
              You will find the right-click menu nice, but it doesn’t really work. In step 3 and 4 may help if you are interested in it to work almost the same as default antiX.

              3. Customizing fluxbox is up to you, but I will give you some quick tips and fixes that may help you right now.
              3a. Right-click menu is a mess. File manager, Web browser, Editor wont work. At least the terminal should work (f it doesn’t, move back to tty1 and use nano)
              Edit ~/.fluxbox/menu with your favorite text editor and replace the commands. For example

              [exec] (Terminal) {x-terminal-emulator}
              [exec] (File Manager) {spacefm}

              All changes are up to you.
              3b. All startup commands will have to be added to ~/.fluxbox/startup (~/.desktop-session/startup will not work anymore) and will require you to edit this file. For example, if you want to have SpaceFM control wallpaper and icons, add this to startup:

              #SpaceFM controls my desktop
              spacefm --desktop &

              3c. Change ~/.fluxbox/keys to replace keyboard shortcuts. For example (in my computer)
              Mod4 t : ExecCommand x-terminal-emulator
              Makes Windows+T launch terminal
              Mod4 space :Rootmenu
              Launches the right-click menu.
              Etc.

              4. Making Applications menu repopulate will require you to install these packages:
              sudo apt install desktop-defaults-base-antix xdg-utils python-gtk2 python-xdg desktop-session-antix
              I may be missing some other package, but I think this is all you need for the applications menu to update (with “Update” menu entry and every time you install a new app, it will update the applications menu automatically).

              5. Installing antiX 19 default themes, fluxbox themes, wallpapers, etc.
              sudo apt install arc-theme arc-evopro2-theme-antix artwork19-antix papirus-antix wallpaper-antix fluxbox-themes-antix
              This should install all related antiX graphics. You may need to install lxappearance to be able to change your icon and gtk themes. Changing wallpaper would be done or inside SpaceFM (View > Preferences > Desktop > Wallpaper , tick it on and select the wallpaper) or with wallpaper-antix.

              6. Logout from the session/shutdown/restart from the default antiX fluxbox’s default menu will require you install desktop-session-antix
              sudo apt install desktop-session-antix pm-utils python-gtk2
              To logout you will have to copy the file /etc/skel/.desktop-session to your home folder

              7. You will need gksu for graphical applications that need root permissions with user account.
              sudo apt install gksu
              Then you need to launch
              gksu-properties
              and select sudo authentication mode.

              Now it should be similar to antiX 19 but still missing a lot of stuff. You will still need audio controller, volumeicon, etc.
              This mini-guide may be incomplete. Please forgive any error.
              I hope this helps.

              Update: fixed some stuff.

              • This reply was modified 3 years ago by Xecure. Reason: Tested corrections

              antiX Live system enthusiast.
              General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

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              stick

                Hi,

                I’m using Antix on a number of PC’s now and love it — thanks to the team! Problem is that most of my machines have FR keyboards. On those machines, Crtl+Alt does not behave as intended in IceWM. For example, wingrid shortcuts do not work. Now, I can work around that easily by remapping or using the numpad. The real problem is that some applications need Ctrl+Alt for specific functions. With an FR keymap, with Ctrl+Alt pressed, as soon as one uses a mousebutton, the focus window minimises 🙁 I put “generic 105 key” and then “France” map when configuring the machines ( also tried “France, alt” or other FR-maps, generic 101 key etc. etc. — it does not matter). As soon as I change the keymap to US, or “US with French letters”, Ctrl+Alt works normally again. However this is no solution, since FR keyboards are AZERTY, so very hard to type anything correctly anymore then). Also, changing to Fluxbox or JWM solves the problem as well, but I would really like to get it working in IceWM.
                The state changes due to pressing Ctrl+Alt together do show up in xev.
                Anyone have any idea how to fix this in IceWM?

                #32108
                Member
                lubod

                  @sybok: Thanks for the suggestions, this is handy to know, even if it doesn’t limit RAM, or works slower, it is good to know the exact steps to re-nice it, and how to activate it via keyboard shortcuts.

                  Not exactly what was asked but a small comment on

                  As far as I know there’s no way to limit firefox RAM usage

                  This is not exactly reducing RAM (only) but it will help if the process also consumes a lot of your CPU.
                  nice -n <integer value> firefox &
                  see e.g. nice and renice

                  See the man-page by typing
                  man nice
                  in your terminal.

                  You can create an alias in your
                  ~/.bashrc
                  file or a shortcut not to have to type the commands all over again (or search in command-line history).

                  E.g. my keys file in Fluxbox ~/.fluxbox/keys contains the following line:
                  Control Mod1 f :ExecCommand /usr/bin/nice /usr/bin/firefox --private-window
                  which means pressing Ctrl+Alt+f launches firefox with a bit altered scheduling.

                  Hope that helps at least a bit.

                  Of course, restricting the resources may result in poor performance of the process.

                  Restore older computers to working order.
                  Computers everyone else insists are obsolete and useless.

                  Current recordholder:
                  Generic Pentium III 600 Mhz with 512Mb RAM and 10Gb HD
                  Working on Cyrix M2 333 Mhz with 64Mb RAM and OS on IDE to SD card 4Gb

                  #31209

                  In reply to: DistroWatch reviews

                  Member
                  fungalnet

                    1st On topic: Dostrowatch is a business. I don’t know how it started but it is clearly a profit oriented enterprise. When doing so you are bound to serve the interests of your best clients. Those who believe that media can exist without a bias are either too naive, are biased themselves, or they are representing other interests or their own by trying to convince other people by this myth; of unbiased media.

                    Or am I off-topic? Take a few seconds to think before you take the safety out and shoot me, for saying so.

                    2nd off-topic: Those of us who started computing before a mouse came out, before graphical desktops and windows came out, we learned how to use shortcuts because it was the only way to do things. Whether it was dos or pre-X unix, that is how things worked. Those who first layed eyes on their parents’ computer that had a mouse on it and started playing pre-school games clicking on a mouse, it is understandable to have this bias. Why memorize useless crap like ctrl-shift-space to get a terminal when you can just click on a menu item or an icon that says terminal on it. We are moving to this new generation now that don’t know what a keyboard or a mouse it because their only experience is a touch-screen. Why reach and click on things when you can double touch them on the screen?

                    3rd way off topic: Openbox is the most widely used wm, especially when several desktops are built on top of it. Have you tried bspwm, a tiling minimal wm? Give it a few weeks of learning and tweaking and it becomes a desktop if that is what you like. And JWM? Have you seen what Obarun or 4MLinux has done with JWM? If you install it from debian and not give it a chance you are not going to be very impressed. Even somebody who has never read, let alone write, scripts before can figure out jwm in a day or two. Shortcuts! Even people who reject this tendency once they realize how easily they can configure them they may become shortcut fanatics. i3 … that is really just for kids, who want to show off how big of “hackers” they have become and how many monitors they can tile stuff around to with shortcuts. You can keep that one!

                    Back to topic: You expect someone who has only used ubuntu on a top of the line game machine to be impressed by antiX? How about someone who has used nothing other than gnome, cinnamon, or plasma? antiX, with their mindset, has nothing to offer. Why would someone with a 16 core 4GHz 64GB-ram and 2TB ssd, care about if antiX IceWm boots up with 123MB ram on a single core atom with 512MB-ram? They can run 30 such machines in vm and have all of them compile huge pieces of software and each of the 30 will beat that one atom. Is this the kind of user you want in your/our community? The one who will whine about his pulseaudio and video editor that worked better on Mint?

                    There is no bad publicity, it is all good. Some people can read through the negative comments and become even more interested. According to comments and reviews there can’t be any worse distribution than gentoo, but thankfully we can see right through the smoke and the noise. Even if we dislike it we know it is good!

                    You want a different picture for antiX? Just gather some money and dump it in that guy’s pocket and you will see a pretty picture. It is that simple. He has to make a living out of this, I didn’t find anywhere him stating that he is doing it to bring peace to the world and help humanity. If you don’t like capitalism do something about it. If not just accept the power that DW has to affect your influx of new users.

                    #31200

                    In reply to: DistroWatch reviews

                    Moderator
                    BobC

                      If someone knows and uses the keyboard shortcuts the computer is much quicker getting many tasks done.

                      That’s why I’m always looking to have the things that I do most often on shortcuts, and why I want to have the lists of them readily available so I learn and use them.

                      There are also things that the mouse is better at, and I see no reason not to use it then. Imo its smart to use the best tools available.

                      Just my 2 cents worth.

                      #31197

                      In reply to: DistroWatch reviews

                      Member
                      ModdIt

                        @Koo You say The main thing to take from a negative is to turn it into a positive. If something is not working just fix it. I agree.

                        Please do not misunderstand, I can fix things for myself, for our group, Share my somewhat limited knowledge and insights in forums
                        as well as in public.

                        I am not bashing AntiX or Anti ever anywhere, I give this outstanding distro a lot of support..

                        Having a bunch of young users 8 to 19 years old along with a couple around 55 along with the present oldest me at 70 plus with diverse hardware
                        brings a lot of what I consider useful insight. Discussing reasons for not using either any form of Linux and Antix is useful too, prejudice and
                        misinformation is one side of the coin, the other is having a stable base and the needed software up to date. Again I can do that for a limited
                        number of users.

                        Please consider most of us here in the forum are not in our youths, do not sit with an old donated laptop between kids with Mac Book Pro and latest
                        other offers from MS, Dell, HP to name a few. We can work as well or often better with our older hardware but need the tools to do so. We also think
                        providing a wider audience with the same up to date tools would improve the distro as well as making it more attractive to prospective new users.

                        You write about using a rather differnt WM, most of the kids think keyboard shortcuts are black art, including my daughter. I use shortcuts she still
                        stubbornly pushes a mouse even for simple things like cut and paste. Its like some kind of insiduous Brain Rot.
                        Sit next to someone using a touchscreen working on a similar assignment, you may die of laughing at the totaly inifficient crap people are trying to use
                        for serious work.
                        Ice is at present most used WM, reason being it feels familiar enough for user comfort and is fast. Learning to use tiling wms seems to be more effort
                        than most are prepared to invest when they have to use Windoze at work now or later.

                        #30267
                        Anonymous

                          accessed by the context of what screen you are asking for help from, filtered to eliminate necessary nonsense (ie python in the window name or command string for example), all combined should result in a very usable system that could work on any desktop.

                          Careful ~~ “on any desktop” hints that you expect it to remain accurate within the desktop session of any ol’ window manager.

                          keycodes {—- hardware
                          keysyms + modifiers, those are marshalled (?) by the X server’s xbk component
                          and
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X_Window_System_core_protocol#Mappings
                          (page section: Mappings)
                          The keycodes{–}keysyms mapping table and modifier mappings are dynamic, are fluid, and (potentially) are everchanging moment-to-moment throughout a session.

                          a paraphrased excerpt from the wikipedia page:

                          When a key is pressed or released, the server sends events of type KeyPress or KeyRelease
                          to the appropriate clients. These events contain:
                          — the keycode of the pressed key
                          — the current state of the modifiers (Shift, Control, etc.) and mouse buttons

                          Translation from keycode to keysym.
                          The server therefore sends the keycode and the modifier state without attempting to
                          translate them into a specific character. It is a responsibility of the client to do this conversion.

                          X client applications only request the X server keycodes{–}keysyms mapping table and use it for decoding the
                          keycode and modifiers field of a key event into a keysym. However, clients can also change this mapping at will.
                          Similarly, the lists of _modifier_ mappings is maintained by the X server but can be changed by every client.

                          Said again, worded differently:
                          at each EVENT occurrence, each of the registered listeners has an opportunity to handle
                          (CONSUME and/or modify, or ignore) TRAP the event. The event is usually CONSUMED before reaching,
                          and frequently without ever reaching the lesser-priority listeners.

                          The window manager defers to (is a lesser priority) while any application window holds focus
                          and each application usually does consume nearly all of the non-modifier-ized keysym events.
                          Further, when applications launch child windows, often the child is granted “modal” superpriority
                          (the parent window may trap/ignore any keysym events not consumed by the child).

                          In regard to “expect it to remain accurate within the desktop session of any ol’ window manager”
                          I say, no, that’s an overreaching expectation.
                          Too many wildcard factors exist, for example:
                          What if, during a window_manager_XYZ, ‘sloppy mouse focus’ is in effect?

                          related reading:
                          https://askubuntu.com/questions/26056/where-are-gnome-keyboard-shortcuts-stored
                          https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Keybindings
                          https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/319787/how-does-the-linux-kernel-handle-keyboards-inputs-outputs
                          https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116629/how-do-keyboard-input-and-text-output-work

                          ______________________
                          I’ve only ever kicked the tires of blender. Unreal Editor 2 is the closest app I can equate to blender’s UI and UX (user experience).
                          Ctrl+Shift+up/down : adjusts POV along the Z-axis
                          Wait, don’t jot that down in yer handy-dandy notes!
                          That keycombo performs that action ONLY while you’re using viewport mode suchandsuch. As you traverse between the various viewport modes, Ctrl+Shift+up/down may have no effect (and, dammit, there’s not visual cue, nothing to indicate that action is currently “greyed out”). In other viewport modes, Ctrl+Shift+up/down repositions the currently-selected object within the scene. My point here is that “per application” static (graphical or physical) kb overlays can still fall short (and may, at a given moment, represent inaccurate “help”)

                          #30052
                          Moderator
                          BobC

                            I guess I didn’t write clearly enough again… My bad there, I will try again…

                            I would like a pop-up help system to tell me what keyboard shortcuts are available, and link to help for the programs. I think that is also what manyroads might be trying to get to, but his vision is of getting there via Rofi.

                            It would be nice if it this pop-up help were what I would call “contex sensitive”, and would notice what window I am in and pop up the keyboard shortcuts and link to help for that program as well as for the window manager in use. Maybe also links for all the other active window programs as well?

                            I’m not expecting the program to make the list of keyboard shortcuts for me, because as you say, they are all configured differently in different files with different syntaxes. Somewhere I already did that for my IceWM, in a text file, but I don’t really have a good way to pop it and others up, linked together as a DIY pop up help system of sorts. I don’t even have a good way to pop my text file up, let alone a way to convert it to HTML for Dillo to display.

                            Maybe there is a better way?

                            #27151
                            Moderator
                            BobC

                              Yes, I ran Manjaro for a while too, then SlackoPup. If another distro is better once each are tuned, you should choose the best one.

                              I like your everything I used in the past 2 weeks idea for choosing what deserves to be on the toolbar. See pic. If autohide is used, I suggest increasing the AutoHideDelay in preferences to 1000

                              Soon my thinking is to assign some shortcuts, maybe like winkey W LO writer, Winkey C, for calc, Winkey M for claws. Thats more about kids learning that this is their system, apart from the core system they can safely change most anything. As long as they keep saving important data that is.

                              I like keyboard shortcuts also. I suggest creating a pop-up screen with a list of all the keyboard shortcuts and what they do both in German and English, even, maybe.

                              Where do I go to change the menu entry WĂŒnsche, gave up trying to find tahat.

                              WĂŒnsche is the German used for the IceWM Preferences option. That could be coming from IceWM itself at https://github.com/bbidulock/icewm/blob/icewm-1-4-BRANCH/po/de.po on line 1631. See picture. You or NoClue or Caprea could ask them to correct it.

                              PS: If you are using Claws-mail you could change the IceWM preferences to turn on the mail status monitor, have it make a sound when emails arrive, show how many new mails are there, and when you click it, it will pop up Claws mail.
                              Settings for mail:

                              $ cd ~/.icewm
                              bobc@xps15:~/.icewm
                              $ cat preferences | grep -i "mail"
                              #  Show mailbox status on task bar
                              TaskBarShowMailboxStatus=1 # 0/1
                              #  Beep when new mail arrives
                              TaskBarMailboxStatusBeepOnNewMail=1 # 0/1
                              #  Count messages in mailbox
                              TaskBarMailboxStatusCountMessages=1 # 0/1
                              #  Execute taskbar applet commands (like MailCommand,     ClockCommand,   ...) on single click
                              #  Delay between new-mail checks. (seconds)
                              MailCheckDelay=30 # [0-86400]
                              #  Mailbox path (use $MAIL instead)
                              # MailBoxPath=""
                              #  Command to run on mailbox
                              MailCommand="claws-mail"
                              #  WM_CLASS to allow runonce for MailCommand
                              MailClassHint="mutt.XTerm"
                              #  Command to run when new mail arrives
                              # NewMailCommand=""
                              bobc@xps15:~/.icewm
                              

                              COULD A MODERATOR PLEASE REMOVE icewm-mail.jpg for me? I am adding icewm-mail-2.jpg to replace it. Thanks 🙂

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                              #26727

                              In reply to: I tried Manjaro I3

                              Member
                              eugen-b

                                As for Manjaro itself, they really have some hardware support issues that should have been figured out and cured long ago. I can understand after having 50% of my machines refuse to boot, why their Distrowatch ratings are falling. I can’t always “just try a different machine”, especially with a relatively slow system, which refuses to boot on my fastest machines.

                                That can’t be done if you try to be cutting edge and newest versions of everything. For example, Catalyst non-free graphics needed old version of Xorg. Manjaro tried to keep them as long as possible, but some day they had to discontinue support. Same with older Nvidia cards which non-free drivers stopped working with new Xorg 1.20. Manjaro decided not to ship xorg-server-1.19 as a separate package. And there are also some obscure in-kernel drivers for legacy hardware which can be eneabled at compile time, but they are labled as “dangerous”. They are disabled in Manjaro kernels. Maybe they are enabled in antiX kernels, I didn’t take the time to investigate antiX kernel config closely. To sum up, Manjaro takes older hardware into consideration, but it’s not suited as a “retiremnt home” for every sort of old hardware.

                                One thing I learned from this discussion, and thanks to eugen for making it clear, is that we really should have a way to easily/quickly “Display KeyMap” that instantly shows the current keyboard and mouse mapping (lol, how do you do that for the touchpad???), and the first time in, it should pop up by itself, and do that every time you login, until you unclick the box saying to keep showing it after every login. I might have survived adapting to I3 if that had been there for me. Maybe eugen would have survived adapting to IceWM if it had been there for him.

                                If I really wanted I could have found the answer in http://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-17/FAQ/icewm.html :

                                What about the keyboard shortcuts?
                                CC -→ Desktop -→ Edit IceWM Settings -→ keys. The syntax is simple. Alt+Ctrl is equivalent to the “Super” key.

                                But I wasn’t too eager and IMHO it is not the point to force feed a user with information with MS Office sort of pop ups with “useful” tips. 😉

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                                #26710

                                In reply to: I tried Manjaro I3

                                Member
                                eugen-b

                                  BobC’s experience totally makes sense. If you are not used to a program you will have difficulties until you get used to it.
                                  * One needs to get used to a few keybindings for a few typical actions: program launcher (usually dmenu), terminal, close window, switch to workspace number N.
                                  * I think there is no doubt that keyboard shortcuts, when you know them, are more efficient than mouse clicks or taps on a touchscreen virtual keyboard which you cannot use without looking on it.
                                  * One needs to get used to the way how the third window gets opened on a given workspace. Second window is usually no problem, you have enough space to read and use the applications of two windows which are side by side vertically or horizontally. But if the third window opens in the same orientation (vertical or horizintal) you have three stripes which are not balanced enough in length an width to display a typical application. Most tiling WMs have a keybinding to switch the orientation to open a new wind and you would hit that keys before you open a third window. Bspwm as an exception switches the orientation for the third window automatically. (But it does so for the fourth as well and that makes the windows become too small. A ideal solution would be a WM which opens a new window on the space which halves the largest window.)
                                  * “Nothing is a bigger waste of time than moving windows around until they are the right size-ish (…)” – https://github.com/conformal/spectrwm/blob/master/README.md
                                  * So the point of using a tiling WM or any other GUI which offers many automation or behaviour pattern which can be launched with shortcuts is that you have the time and memory to learn an to memorize those shortcuts.

                                  I’m quite clumsy with IceWM, because I don’t know the keybindings like open applications menu, tile the windows manually, switch to the next workspace. I also don’t like thick window frames and don’t which theme would minimize them. I knows my ins and out in JWM and can use it quite happily.

                                  As for Manjaro, I like that it is easily reinstalled. If my system crashes I won’t reinstall but rather try to repair it, or clone back a backup, but still it gives confidence. The main reason it that I learned to use the AUR to build special packages from source, I know how to manipulate the PKGBUILD if I get errors or need a newer version of the package. On antiX I never built from source apart from some exceptions.

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