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Para quem deseja uma maneira diferente de poder ter, por exemplo, o Microsoft Word (Online) no antiX, há uma maneira, um pouco mais manual, mas perfeita, que pode ser adaptada para usar qualquer browser e qualquer web app:
1- abra o terminal e execute este comando:
sudo geany /usr/share/applications/word.desktop2- Vai abrir um documento de texto vazio. Copie para lá o texto abaixo e grave:
[Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=Microsoft Word Online Exec=google-chrome --app=https://www.office.com/launch/word?auth=1 StartupNotify=true Terminal=false Icon=/usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/32x32/apps/ms-word.png Type=Application Categories=Office; MimeType=application/pdf;application/rdf+xml;application/rss+xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xhtml_xml;application/xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;image/webp;text/html;text/xml;x-scheme-handler/ftp;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https; Actions=new-window;new-private-window;3- Pode fechar o editor de texto. Na linha de comandos execute um último comando, para fazer as alterações surgirem de imediato no menu:
sudo desktop-menu –write-out-globalAgora surge o ícone do Microsoft Word no menu. Pode usar o “Gestor de Icones para a Barra do Icewm” para o colocar na barra/painel, ou pode adicionar o ícone ao desktop / ambiente de trabalho.
Pode usar qualquer browser derivado do chromium, qualquer endereço de internet e qualquer ícone, adaptando as instruções acima (na linha “Exec” e “Icon”…
Boas festas,
EDIT:
Algo que pode ser importante para tornar usar estas “webapps” ainda mais similar a usar uma aplicação instalada (e não uma página web): se usar o Chromium ou um browser derivado dele (como o Google Chrome), pode instalar esta extensão:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/open-link-in-same-tab-pop/jmphljmgnagblkombahigniilhnbadca/related?hl=ene seleccionar a última opção (“Reuse tab”), clicando no ícone da extensão no canto superior direito da janela do navegador e clicando em “Open link in same tab…”)
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- This reply was modified 2 years, 4 months ago by PPC.
In reply to: Anton App no sound
There seems to be a bit of confusion here, from what I gather from the Original Post:
https://anton.app/ seems to be a web service, running from inside a web browser… If that is so, you can starting it using sound, running the default antix browser firefox-est (like, for example, with the command “firefox-esr https://anton.app ”
If you installed “firefox” itself, by default firefox does not provide sound in antiX, because it uses pulse audio, and antiX does not- this means that you have to force firefox “to think” it’s running with pulse audio- there’s an application for that, called “apulse”, you have to run the app that needs pulse audio from inside it, that’s why it is a “prefix” to the command that runs the app:
for example:
the command “firefox https://anton.app” – does not provide sound output in antiX (if you have not installed and configured pulse audio beforehand), but
the command “apulse firefox https://anton.app” does provide sound…Please note that chromium and chromium derive browsers, like Google Chrome, Brave, Microsoft Edge, etc, do not require pulse audio do provide sound output- you can start them and have sound out of the box, in any web page…
If you really want to have that website running from inside firefox (and not firefox-esr or Chrome, etc), you can create a .desktop file for it, and have it come up on your menu (or put it in your toolbar/desktop) for easy access-
sudo geany /usr/share/applications/anton.desktop
[enter your password, if asked to]paste this contents to the file and save it
[Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=anto.app Exec=apulse firefox https://anton.app/de/ StartupNotify=true Terminal=false Icon=/usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/status/avatar-default.png Type=Application Categories=Office; MimeType=application/pdf;application/rdf+xml;application/rss+xml;application/xhtml+xml;application/xhtml_xml;application/xml;image/gif;image/jpeg;image/png;image/webp;text/html;text/xml;x-scheme-handler/ftp;x-scheme-handler/http;x-scheme-handler/https; Actions=new-window;new-private-window;then update the menu with the command:
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In reply to: Extra Thread for Browser questions. ?.
Robin
Hello ModdIt and hello Brian Masinick, hello Xecure, (anybody left behind?)
To begin with: my following answer may be outdated already, since you have added a dozen new replies while I was writing down the answer to the first ones. Sorry for this, but I can’t write that fast in English language still 🙂 .
Only glancing over the new postings I point out that the limiting factors for browser choice on my (but I’m sure not only my) machines are: 32 bit and SSE1 (instead of SSE2) hardware support only. And now here is my original reply:You are right with all the reservations about firefox, and I have tried some alternatives already. I am fully aware palemoon would be the better choice seeing it in this light. But the main reasons for me to remigrate to firefox (being fully aware of its problematic aspects) were:
— compatibility to webpages. Even “oficial” pages (at least here in Germany) would not function correctly with less known browsers. This has been true for public-service broadcasting pages and -archives as well as for german governmental or ministerial webpages, even university- and library access pages, official pages from galleries and museums, which most of them would fail to deliver contents, refuse to log in or even refuse to display at all.
I felt slightly reminded of the early days when microsoft took over the role of dictating web standards from netscape navigator, and everything displayed correctly on MSIE only for long years.
— compatibility with my hardware.
Now, after palemoon has had dropped (also inofficial) support of non-SSE2 systems (as my in my eyes really fast Athlon XP) there was apperently no way to maintain security updates for this browser on my systems; no other browser I tried would have started (some of them not even installed) on this computer anymore until the day I met antiX and the esr-Versions of firefox, which made all the problems vanish into thin air. While working on different projects since, I have opened about 36 windows simultanously and it still runs rock stable, seldom with an acceptable delay (astonishingly fast concidering the hardware it has to run on here. But this is mostly coherent to the next aspect I’ll mention). I have tried to install opera, iceweasle, chrome, palemoon (recent versions), with no success. Well, this may have changed with the migration of my systems to antiX, but I had no time to give it a try anew. The basic info I have in head is “there is no SSE1 only support anymore”.— The next thing are the add-ons, which in that combination are available (at least at that time I had to decide last about browser choice) only in firefox. To give you an idea what I mean: “decentraleyes”, “ublock origin”, and “First Party isolation” are standard tools I won’t abstain to use. There are some more, which are less important, mostly for accommodativeness. There were error messages when trying to use the important ones in palemoon, since palemoon relies on its own addon structure, which doesnt seem to be compatible to recent firefox anymore. And palemoon doesn’t feature all the add-ons firefox does, as the other browsers do not (maybe this piece of information isn’t up to date).
And this again is connected somehow to the perceived speed the browser runs. Filtering the scripts and reducing them to the amount of what is actually necessary to deliver and display content, renders the browser and “the internet” as a whole usable on older and weaker hardware again. When looking into source code of webpages today (which I actually try only in case something on a webpage malefunctions I urgently need to access) I don’t comprehend all these ten thousands of code lines transmitted anymore, often delivered for a single piece of information displayed on my screen. And this says somebody who was a few tens of years ago on first name terms with html (but had nothing to do with all this since).
Think of german/european television mediathek pages (ARTE,3-sat,BR-ALPHA,ARD,ZDF and local stations), they try to playback content within browser (as youtube also does). This renders the webpage nearly unusable without script blockers, since they charge over capacity the CPU (100%) while the GPU sits idle, even on low resolutions. Downloading the content to a suitable video file format on disk temporaryly and displaying it afterwards allows higest resolution displayed without any lapses, even on these old machines with a cpu load of 20-30% average. So it is not the content itself, but the way it gets delivered, tailored for modern hardware only, which is the culprit. Using less wellknown browsers they are not able to display anything except for error messages at all.
So in my opinion blocking addons for these old machines are not an optional feature merely, they are essential.
And taking all this into account firefox turned out to be the best choice for now at least for me, whatever one can object against it (and there are intolerable things indeed, I am with you in this point). And I am amendable to any solution which covers the needs the same way, but will not be able to test anything during the next months.
Yours,
RobinP.S.: And now I’m going to read your postings staightaway I have been missing while writing this answer 🙂
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
In reply to: Ideas for improvements in future releases
Brian Masinick
@all
Maybe you missed it, but there is an official announcement by anticapitalista here:
Future antiX
where the things that need to be addressed and where help is needed is organized and explained.All of us who want can try helping in any of the points raised there.
I thought the ISO of the antiX full version was aimed at novice users. So what kind of user is it for?
antiX-Full is not aimed specifically at novice users, it is aimed at all users. The idea of it being for novice users is a very recent and incorrect presumption made by some people.
Historically, antiX did not offer the range of ISOs it currently does. There were some requests to have an ISO that did not include all the programs shipped in antiX-Full. Some users wanted to reduce the amount of bandwidth and time required to download the ISO, some did not want the full range of programs, some wanted to choose for themselves what was installed. To meet these requests the range of ISOs evolved to their current number.
antiX-Full always remained available. It contains the full range of programs without being modified to suit any particular group of users. It has never been abridged for novice users. antiX-Full is the standard version of our distro for all users.
Doing a “re-spin”, I still don’t really know what it is or how to do it. For me this is still far from my reality, I will need to learn a lot to be able to reach this level. Would the “re-spin” make another version of antiX from the original version? Do the developers authorize the anti-re-spin of antiX?
You are encouraged to create it, use it and distribute it if you want to. There is even a section of the antiX forum (sub-section of Development) where you can post about it or request help etc. The term re-spin is a slang word. In antiX is properly named Remaster. The antiX-FAQ has a section about it (in English). The first line is most informative.
“The primary purpose of live remastering is to make it as safe, easy, and convenient as possible for users to make their own customized version of antiX.”These two messages really bring home the importance of the ideas, and also the importance of understanding the capabilities of antiX in its current form.
The first thing to realize is that even though we have been discussing ideas for improvement in future releases, we also have to remember that the decisions made for this distribution entirely belong to those who formed, and are responsible, for this distribution. One of the main aims is to provide support for old hardware. Some of the changes made at levels in the Linux ecosystem actually make this difficult because support for some components has been dropped at the Linux kernel, while support for many more hardware components has been added. The antiX team does as much as possible to preserve and extend the life expectancy of older systems, but is constrained by some OS features that are supported by other teams not managed by antiX.
Another goal is to remain as light and nimble as possible; this is also affected by resources outside of the direct control of antiX, though the team still does a remarkable job.
Finally, while some people aim for the simplest, easiest possible interface, let me highlight what SamK said and what’s possible. AntiX does have a rich toolset, and the use of remastering, that is, adding, removing, changing, and configuring the software and the appearance, then saving the result into a different bootable ISO image, is something that antiX provides as a standard capability. Therefore, while the stock, standard antiX images are NOT going to appeal to every possible feature or capability, suppose, just for the sake of discussion, that the system you envision closely resembles something that Mint, Ubuntu, or even Apple or Microsoft has created, if you really desire that kind of look or feature capability, with antiX you still have some choices. Of course, one choice is to actually use one or more of those other systems; we have the freedom of choice after all. There are other ways too. With the different window managers, desktop environments, software applications, and utility tools available, only your own creativity and willingness to experiment prevents you from creating your own very personal and custom version of antiX.
I recommend for those looking for a different experience to experiment – try the various antiX tools; see if you can create something DIFFERENT that actually works, and then remaster the image. Make sure you have ways of getting back to what you had before – keep an image of antiX handy, back up your work, and ideally have a spare system or something you can use, recreate, or recover from in case of making mistakes. The first time you experiment, you may indeed make mistakes. This is how we learn. Still, I highly recommend that those of you looking for something different try to actually MAKE it YOURSELF – with the antiX tools.
Those of you that are successful in doing so will feel a great sense of accomplishment, and you will also see the power, flexibility and advantages of the antiX approach. You can keep the work to yourself if you wish, or you can post pictures or even system images of the work that you’ve done, but believe me, you’ll have fun doing it if you can take the time and effort to build exactly what you want, and antiX is one of the best distributions available for doing this kind of work.
Let me know what you think about this, and if you are not sure what I mean, please ask. We’ve mentioned the tools to use in various posts and threads in this forum and we can point out a few, plus the docs if they are not obvious; I do hope that this is very helpful and stimulates some excitement and some great ideas that you can make your very own this year!
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Brian MasinickIn reply to: Ideas for improvements in future releases
ModdIt
regarding next debian release and hoops to jump through.
Debian is the only remaining major distribution which is not owned and ruled by a private company.
Red Hat is IBM. SUSE owned by a US Investment company Ubuntu Canonical, majority
ownership a South African Billionar ?. Microsoft is arguably following an Embrace and destroy path.
Google is involved at many levels, directly and indirectly.
linux as we know it is a very endangered species. Penguins unfortunately too.
Part of that path seems to be the make systemD removal near impossible. Concentrate and weaken an
ecosystem. Contributors are deliberatly ignoring a resolution to support init freedom.to the discussion regarding what we can do as individuals for a future release, I have been digging in to
translation for German. Much is controlled/contributed upstream and Suse is dominant. I have not given up
but my conclusion is pretty much rather than fight a private enterprise either an internal approach is needed
or I concentrate on helping new users. Education, Promotion, Expanding and winning users is also a very big
priority.I also want to discuss what we can contribute together with some old and new users but now is still critical
exam time and a total mess. Pandemic driven by goverment incompetence, arrogance or hidden agenda.
Get rid of ballast, as many aged persons as possible. Covid also kills more People of colour, Racism is rife
in hospitals.Governments and general public. Part of the blame game..My contacts in China and Vietnam are incredulous at what is happening outside of asia.
In reply to: Ideas for improvements in future releases
marcelocripe
Hello dear colleagues,
I hope you understand well the words that I will send translated by the internet translator from Brazilian Portuguese to English. I hope that there is no misunderstanding or that they understand my words as criticism or something that can discourage developers. My intention is to collaborate with suggestions, future vision and possibilities.
Guys, we have two different and very important topics in progress, dealing with practically the same subject:
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/ideas-for-improvements-in-future-releases/
and
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/release-recommendation-usability-improvements-4/I’m trying to keep up with these topics, but I can’t keep up with the speed of most colleagues, you are extremely fast.
1 (one) year ago and 1 month ago I started researching Linux, then I started to understand about the existence of the various Linux distributions. 7 (seven) months ago I started on this forum. I intend to stay here on the forum as long as you allow me to stay. Since June 2020 I have been learning a lot from you and in a short time. I thank you all!
Anticapitalista wrote:
I think this is a very fruitful discussion and well worth continuing.
How I see future antiX (ie the next stable ‘bullseye’ version).It is very good to be able to read your words (in my case, words translated by the internet translator into Brazilian Portuguese) about the future of antiX.
I believe that in order to have a future, the antiX community needs to grow, new users are needed and the existence of the new generation, after a few years, we need the new generation again and this cycle needs to continue repeating itself. Inevitably people get sick and unfortunately die. If there is no new generation of new antiX users, the community will languish and inevitably come to an end. Does anyone here want an end to antiX? My answer is “Eternal life to antiX!”.
Over the course of this 1 year and 1 month, I have seen more Linux distributions being discontinued than new Linux distributions being created.
The new generation is not only aimed at new users, but also the new generation of developers and programmers. In this regard, this community is excellent. We have people who are committed, participative and willing to collaborate even with programming codes. I don’t see such an optimistic scenario in other Linux communities.
Anticapitalista wrote:
Certainly, IMO, including user written scripts have made antiX more user friendly.
eg the IceWM toolbar script, antiX-wifi switcher, android-device-connect, fast_personal_menu_editor, icewm-menu-recent-files and others, though I personally don’t use any of them. The downside to including these useful scripts is that the menu could be considered to be ‘bloated’.This is motivating, to see the work of several colleagues in the forum being accepted and implemented in antiX.
Making antiX more user friendly and easy to use is basically offering solutions through GUI. Who are the graphical interfaces for?
I myself have no skills at the terminal. However, I can edit text files, at least I’m “seeing” what I’m doing. At the terminal, I don’t “see” what the command does. But the question is: do the novice user, the basic user, or the average user really need this kind of knowledge?
Anticapitalista wrote:
What I don’t want is for antiX to be turned into something it is not meant to be.
For example, some in the past basically wanted it to be like a Debian lubuntu. If people want lxde, Xfce etc and ‘bells n whistles’ out of the box, then they really should try another distro.
We will always be systemd-free.
We will keep to IceWM / Rox default
We will ship with / promote our own (less known or even unknown) tools / apps over bigger and better known versions eg droopy, 1-1-voice etc.
We will try to keep CPU and RAM usage at idle down to a minimum. We mainly achieve this through not running unnecessary services on boot.We have less and less options available for Linux distributions that have this objective “… try to keep CPU and RAM usage in idle to a minimum …”, this philosophy brought me here and keeps me, due to my goal of saving old computers ( that still work) from being thrown in the trash. But that’s not all that keeps me here, I just stayed here on the forum, due to the receptivity and all the support and help that we have from experienced colleagues (even with the daily challenge I have to interpret the translations). Without all the support and help needed, beginners in Linux distributions cannot start and continue alone, it is very difficult for anyone who is used to everything done in GUI mode on Windows, to start using Linux distributions that everything is done in CLI mode. It is unthinkable for a novice user, basic user or ordinary user to adjust the time the computer needs to apply commands on the terminal, this inevitably makes potential users end up giving up using the operating system.
PPC wrote:
@anticapitalista – as always, I greatly value your opinion! After all this fine OS is almost your “one man show” – and performs miracles of what would be, any other way, almost useless computers…Among so many very important considerations made by the PPC, this represents the main one, the starting point. AnitX serves the layer that has been abandoned by most Linux distributions and Windows.
According to some Brazilian colleagues who have many years in this “world of Linux distributions”, Debian himself seems to seek self-isolation since he started using systemd. Also according to them, systemd tends to make life difficult for developers of Linux distributions based on Debian. And another issue repeatedly cited by them is the concern that capital would be forcing the end of Linux distributions to take Linux users for themselves.
SamK wrote:
Focusing on new users coming from Windows is in my view a fruitless exercise. The basic concept is flawed but is raised every few years. If it was going to work there would be a distro in existence that had already succeeded, to which all would go.Microsoft itself throughout history has forced the user to abandon Windows or abandon the computer, forcing the user to buy new equipment. Unfortunately, several Linux distributions follow the same path, the planned or forced obsolescence of technology. These users are looking for an operating system similar to antiX, sooner or later they will arrive here on the forum.
SamK wrote:
It must be remembered, antiX is not Windows (or any other distro) and will never try to be. From its inception antiX had, and continues to have, a goal which is discussed less often than being lean and mean. Encouraging the user to learn Linux and understand what they are doing rather than just blindly clicking on an icon is every bit an antiX tenet as being lean and mean.I believe that the first contact of new users with antiX needs to be as friendly as possible, so there is a greater chance that the community will grow and the greater the chances that more people will “fall in love” with antiX. Once this user “falls in love” with antiX, then he will be interested in studying and learning Linux, specifically antiX. In people’s lives, there are already many problems, operating systems need to offer solutions, instead of new problems.
Have you tried to identify the different levels of computer users that still exist in the 21st century?
1- Learner user – is learning to use a computer.
2- Beginner user – already learned to turn on the computer and identifies the internet browser and some programs.
3- Basic user – has already gone through the previous steps and already knows how to use the internet browser, Office package and already knows how to use the File Manager, but presents several difficulties in using these basic programs.
All of these users must use the antiX full ISO. Therefore, the full version needs to have many GUI, welcome screens, manual, shortcut icon on the desktop and everything that can show the simplest and easiest way. They probably don’t know how to install the operating system, CLI or even think, black screen keeps “normal” people away, that reminds MS-DOS, their answer is on the tip of the tongue “Linux is difficult!”. They are afraid of damaging the computer, in fact the operating system.
4- Ordinary user – learned to install and uninstall programs, it is curious, eventually destroys the operating system. You already know how to install an operating system. I believe that you still have to use the ISO of antiX full.
5- Average user – knows exactly what he wants, already knows how to do and does not destroy the operating system. You can probably use the base antiX ISO and have some kind of CLI skills.
6- Intermediate user – can use the base ISO, net and core and probably solve almost everything via CLI. The base antiX ISO should be considered by these users as “very easy” or “full” of menus.
7- Advanced user, developer, programmer, remasterizer and etc. – they do not need a GUI, I believe they should solve everything via CLI and sometimes they end up forgetting about “normal” users.
Guys, I don’t want to offend anyone with the definitions above, but this is the reality that I can identify in Brazil. How is it in your country?
The distance of knowledge between the basic user and the average user is years of study and research. We have to be aware that not everyone wants to learn that much just to use a computer.
In some Linux distributions, the community is simply not interested in apprentice, beginner, basic or even ordinary users. So, what should be the future of these Linux distributions? My answer: They will end, they just don’t know it!
I leave here my doubts:
1-Who are the team of developers?
2-Is there an organization chart specifying what each member of the developer team does or is responsible for?
3-How can the participants of this forum collaborate in any way with the work teams?
4-How can I collaborate with what little I know?
I’ve been here for seven months and I don’t know who the antiX developers are, I can identify the developers who create solutions to make antiX easier and easier to use, including PPC, Xecure and BobC (sorry if I still haven’t been able to identify all).
If there is an organization chart specifying what each member of the developer team does, in addition to the work to be performed, it may be that the members of the forum can identify work that can collaborate.
I hope you can reflect on my words.
If you do not speak English, I recommend translating my text in Brazilian Portuguese to your language.
Thank you.
marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)———-
Olá caros colegas,
Eu espero que compreendam bem as palavras que eu enviarei traduzidas pelo tradutor da internet do idioma Português do Brasil para o idioma Inglês. Eu espero que não haja mal entendido ou que entendam as minhas palavras como crítica ou algo que possa desanimar os desenvolvedores. A minha intenção é de colaborar com sugestões, visão futura e sobre as possibilidades.
Pessoal, temos dois tópicos diferentes e importantíssimos em andamento, tratando praticamente do mesmo assunto:https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/ideas-for-improvements-in-future-releases/
e
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/release-recommendation-usability-improvements-4/Eu estou tentando acompanhar estes tópicos, mas eu não consigo acompanhar a velocidade da maioria do colegas, vocês são extremamente rápidos.
Há 1(um) ano e 1 mês atrás eu comecei a pesquisar sobre Linux, depois fui compreender sobre a existência das várias distribuições Linux. Há 7 (sete) meses atrás eu iniciei neste fórum. Eu pretendo ficar aqui no fórum enquanto vocês me permitirem permanecer. Desde de junho de 2020 eu venho aprendendo muito com vocês e em pouco tempo. Eu agradeço a todos!
Anticapitalista wrote:
I think this is a very fruitful discussion and well worth continuing.
How I see future antiX (ie the next stable ‘bullseye’ version).É muito bom poder ler as suas palavras (no meu caso, palavras traduzidas pelo tradutor da internet para o idioma Português do Brasil) sobre o Futuro do antiX.
Eu acredito que para haver futuro, a comunidade do antiX precisa crescer, para isso é necessários novos usuários e a existência da nova geração, após alguns anos, precisamos novamente da nova geração e este ciclo precisa continuar se repetindo. Inevitavelmente as pessoas adoecem e infelizmente falecem. Se não houver a nova geração de novos usuários do antiX, a comunidade vai definhando e inevitavelmente chega ao fim. Alguém aqui deseja o fim do antiX? A minha resposta é “Vida eterna ao antiX!”.
Ao longo deste 1 ano e 1 mês, eu vi mais distribuições Linux serem descontinuadas do que novas distribuições Linux sendo criadas.
A nova geração, não é apenas direcionada aos novos usuários, mas também a nova geração de desenvolvedores e programadores. Neste quesito esta comunidade está excelente. Temos pessoas empenhadas, participativas e dispostas a colaborar inclusive com códigos de programação. Eu não enxergo um cenário tão otimista assim em outras comunidades Linux.
Anticapitalista wrote:
Certainly, IMO, including user written scripts have made antiX more user friendly.
eg the IceWM toolbar script, antiX-wifi switcher, android-device-connect, fast_personal_menu_editor, icewm-menu-recent-files and others, though I personally don’t use any of them. The downside to including these useful scripts is that the menu could be considered to be ‘bloated’.Isso é motivador, ver os trabalhos de vários colegas do fórum sendo aceitos e implementados no antiX.
Tornar o antiX mais amigável e fácil de utilizar, basicamente é oferecer soluções por meio de GUI. Para quem são as interfaces gráficas?
Eu mesmo não possuo habilidade no terminal. Contudo, eu consigo fazer edições de arquivos de textos, ao menos eu estou “vendo” o que estou fazendo. No terminal, eu não “enxergo” o que o comando realiza. Mas a pergunta é: o usuário iniciante, usuário básico ou o usuário comum precisam realmente possui deste tipo de conhecimento?
Anticapitalista wrote:
What I don’t want is for antiX to be turned into something it is not meant to be.
For example, some in the past basically wanted it to be like a Debian lubuntu. If people want lxde, Xfce etc and ‘bells n whistles’ out of the box, then they really should try another distro.
We will always be systemd-free.
We will keep to IceWM/Rox default
We will ship with/promote our own (less known or even unknown) tools/apps over bigger and better known versions eg droopy, 1-1-voice etc.
We will try to keep CPU and RAM usage at idle down to a minimum. We mainly achieve this through not running unnecessary services on boot.Cada vez temos menos opções disponíveis de distribuições Linux que possuem este objetivo “… tentar manter CPU e RAM uso em inatividade ao mínimo…”, esta filosofia me trouxe aqui e me mantém, devido ao meu objetivo de salvar computadores antigos (que ainda funcionem) de serem jogados no lixo. Mas não é só isso que me mantém aqui, eu só fiquei aqui no fórum, devido a receptividade e a todo o apoio e ajuda que nós temos dos colegas experientes (mesmo com o desafio diário que eu tenho em ter que interpretar as traduções). Sem todo apoio e ajuda necessário, iniciantes em distribuições Linux não tem como começar e continuar sozinho, é muito difícil para quem está acostumado com tudo feito em modo GUI no Windows, passar a utilizar distribuições Linux que tudo é feito em modo CLI. É impensável para um usuário iniciante, usuário básico ou usuário comum ajustar a hora do computador necessitar aplicar comandos no terminal, isso inevitavelmente faz usuários em potencial acabarem desistindo de utilizar o sistema operacional.
PPC wrote:
@anticapitalista – as always, I greatly value your opinion! After all this fine OS is almost your “one man show”- and performs miracles of what would be, any other way, almost useless computers…Entre tantas considerações importantíssimas feitas pelo PPC, esta representa a principal, o ponto de partida. O anitX atende a camada que foi abandonada pela maioria das distribuições Linux e pelo Windows.
Segundo alguns colegas Brasileiros que possuem muitos anos neste “mundo das distribuições Linux”, o próprio Debian parece buscar o auto isolamento desde quando passou a utilizar o systemd. Ainda segundo eles, o systemd tende a dificultar a vida dos desenvolvedores das distribuições Linux baseadas em Debian. E outra questão repetidamente citadas por eles, são a preocupação de que o capital estaria forçando o fim das distribuições Linux para tomarem para si os usuários Linux.
SamK wrote:
Focusing on new users coming from Windows is in my view a fruitless exercise. The basic concept is flawed but is raised every few years. If it was going to work there would be a distro in existence that had already succeeded, to which all would go.A própria Microsoft ao longo da história obrigou o usuário a abandonar o Windows ou a abandonar o computador, forçando o usuário a comprar outro equipamento novo. Infelizmente, várias distribuições Linux seguem o mesmo caminho, a obsolescência programada ou forçada de tecnologia. São estes usuários que buscam um sistema operacional semelhante ao antiX, cedo ou tarde chegarão aqui no fórum.
SamK wrote:
It must be remembered, antiX is not Windows (or any other distro) and will never try to be. From its inception antiX had, and continues to have, a goal which is discussed less often than being lean and mean. Encouraging the user to learn Linux and understand what they are doing rather than just blindly clicking on an icon is every bit an antiX tenet as being lean and mean.Eu acredito que o primeiro contato dos usuários iniciantes com o antiX precisa ser o mais amigável possível, assim existe uma chance maior da comunidade crescer e maior será as chances de mais pessoas se “apaixonarem” pelo antiX. Uma vez que este usuário se “apaixone” pelo antiX, aí sim terá interesse e em estudar e aprender Linux, em específico o antiX. Na vida das pessoas, já existem muitos problemas, os sistemas operacionais precisam oferecer soluções, ao invés de novos problemas.
Já tentaram identificar os diversos níveis de usuários de computador que existem ainda no século XXI?
1- Usuário aprendiz – está aprendendo a utilizar um computador.
2- Usuário iniciante – já aprendeu a ligar o computador e identifica o navegador de internet e alguns programas.
3- Usuário básico – já passou pelas etapas anteriores e já sabe usar o navegador de internet, pacote Office e já sabe utilizar o Gerenciador de Arquivos, mas apresenta várias dificuldades em utilizar estes programas básicos.
Todos estes usuários tem que utilizar a ISO do antiX full. Por isso, a versão full precisa possuir muitas GUI, telas de boas vindas, manual, ícone de atalhos na área de trabalho e tudo que puder mostrar o caminho mais simples e fácil. Provavelmente não sabem instalar o sistema operacional, CLI nem pensar, tela preta afasta as pessoas “normais”, isso lembra o MS-DOS, a reposta deles estão na ponta da língua “Linux é difícil!”. Eles possuem medo de danificar o computador, na verdade o sistema operacional.
4- Usuário comum – aprendeu a instalar e desinstalar programas, é curioso, eventualmente destrói o sistema operacional. Já sabe instalar um sistema operacional. Eu acredito que ainda tem que utilizar a ISO do antiX full.
5- Usuário médio – sabe exatamente o que quer, já sabe fazer e não destrói o sistema operacional. Provavelmente consegue utilizar a ISO do antiX base e possui algum tipo de habilidade com CLI.
6- Usuário intermediário – consegue utilizar a ISO base, net e core e provavelmente resolvem quase tudo via CLI. A ISO do antiX base deve ser considerada por estes usuários como “muito fácil” ou “cheia” de menus.
7- Usuário avançado, desenvolvedor, programador, remasterizador e etc – não precisam de GUI, eu acredito que devem resolver tudo via CLI e às vezes acabam se esquecendo dos usuários “normais”.
Pessoal, eu não quero ofender ninguém com as definições acima, mas esta é a realidade que eu consigo identificar no Brasil. Como é no seu país?
A distância do conhecimento entre o usuário básico e o usuário médio são anos de estudo e pesquisa. Temos que ter a ciência de que, nem todas as pessoas pretendem aprender tanto assim só para utilizar um computador.
Em algumas distribuições Linux, a comunidade simplesmente não se interessa pelos usuários aprendiz, iniciante, básico ou até mesmo o comum. Então, qual deverá ser o futuro destas distribuições Linux? A minha resposta: Irão acabar, só não sabem disso!
Eu deixo aqui as minhas dúvidas:
1-Quem são a equipe de desenvolvedores?
2-Existe um organograma especificando o que cada integrante da equipe de desenvolvedores faz ou é responsável?
3-Como os participantes deste fórum podem colaborar de alguma forma com as equipes de trabalho?
4-Como eu posso colaborar com o pouco que eu sei?
Eu estou aqui há sete meses e não sei quem são os desenvolvedores do antiX, eu consigo identificar os desenvolvedores que criam soluções para tornar o antiX cada vez mais fácil de utilizar, entre eles PPC, Xecure e BobC (perdão se eu ainda não consegui identificar todos).
Se houver um organograma especificando o que cada integrante da equipe de desenvolvedores faz, além dos trabalhos a serem desempenhados, pode ser que os integrantes do fórum possam identificar um trabalho que possa colaborar.
Eu espero que possam refletir sobre as minhas palavras.
Quem não domina o idioma Inglês, eu recomendo traduzir o meu texto em idioma Português do Brasil para o seu idioma.
Muito Obrigado.
marcelocripe
(Texto original em Português do Brasil)In reply to: Is ISO-Snapshot a public program or proprietary?
Brian Masinick
I agree. antiX is one of very few distributions that has an ISO Snapshot and light, efficient software.
I do not know if any other distribution has both features.
Linux distributions, with a few exceptions, are not commercial, but they are open software. Some distributions try to mimic or copy the appearance of OS software sold with hardware, such as Apple MacOS and Microsoft Windows. antiX will never be like either of them.
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Brian MasinickTopic: Parental Linux
catfood
I need to find a simple “microsoftesque” distro for a parents computer. I’m leaning toward XFCE, cause it will work on most pretty low grade hardware. Close to Windows for older newbs.
I’d like opinions/help. I wanna give them Xubuntu, but from previous experience, I believe, an Ubu “distro upgrade” from lets say 18 to 20., Pretty idiot proof, but UBU seems to kill all PPA’s before allowing a self “Rolling Stable Upgrade.” So, Xubu ppa’s get blocked, then they would end up with Ubu 20.04, but lose “old people” XFCE, since it was ppa based.
Sorry, I know this should probably be in MX forums, haven’t registered there yet.
Long story short: I’d like a “rolling stable release”. If I give my parents Xubu, I will require more hands on, to give them upgrades. Anyone with experience upgraging MX would help greatly.
Can/does MX reinstall itself with each release?
How hard is it to keep /home, and not overwrite…
I need a way to go from “18.04-20.04”, but like, A, keep XFCE, but also hopefully keep settings/home. Can my dad with a XFCE bottom panel “start menu”, upgrade to the next MX and keep /home, and bottom panel config…. I don’t feel I could explain this to him over phone…- This topic was modified 2 years, 5 months ago by catfood.
Howdy Jessie.
In reply to: APT based offline repo (small yad-bash project)
ex_Koo
ust wondering if it could be taken a step further, to also install programs that one installs after installing the main system.
Do you mean to give a list of packages and get the program to search for dependencies and download them all for latter installation? I think it is doable. I will need to create a separate button inside Download packages to select “download from list”, and let you select a file with packagenames to download and create a .repo file for easy install later.
I will have a look at this tonight.[/quote]
Yes just like the offline updater, have the packagers that you normal install after installation of the system, stored so they can be installed offline.
And even keep them updated just by checking for updates for the stored packages.Like having a script to install a package or packagers. Like below as an idea but from a stored off line repo.. Sorry it is a big scrpt.
#!/bin/bash # Borrowed some of the syntax from DasGeek among others... # Tested on Debian Buster and Testing # Version 0.1 ## Define Temp location - "dis" stands for "debian-install-script" tmd_dir=/tmp/dis ## Define some variables because I'm lazy install='apt install' update='apt update; apt upgrade -y' user=$USER #User=$(getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{ print $1}') ## Start script cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original if [[ $EUID -ne 0 ]]; then echo "This script must be run as root type: sudo ./dialog.sh" exit 1 else #Update and Upgrade echo "Updating and Upgrading" $update echo "Creating temporary folder" mkdir $tmp_dir $install dialog cmd=(dialog --title "LD-Installer" --separate-output --checklist "Please Select Software You Want To Install:" 22 80 16) options=( #A "<----Category: Repositories---->" on 1_repos " Grant Standard User Root Access" off 2_repos " Contrib and Non-free Repos" off # 3_repos " Testing Repos" off # 4_repos " Unstable Repos" off # 5_repos " Experimental Repos" off 6_repos " Return to Original" off 7_repos " Liquorx-Kernel" off #B "<----Category: Alternate Installers---->" on 1_installer " Snap Packages" off 2_installer " Flatpak" off 3_installer " Synaptic" off 4_installer " PIP" off #C "<----Category: Text Editors---->" on 1_editor " Vim" off 2_editor " Nano" off 3_editor " Geany" off 4_editor " emacs" off 5_editor " Gedit" off #D "<----Category: Phone---->" on 1_phone " android" off 2_phone " iphone" off #E "<----Category: Terminal Programs---->" on 1_terminal " Compress/Decompress" off 2_terminal " UFW" off 3_terminal " Identify hardware" off 4_terminal " Python" off 5_terminal " Cups" off 6_terminal " Youtube-dl" off 7_terminal " Htop" off 8_terminal " Parted" off 9_terminal " Curl" off 10_terminal " Wget" off 11_terminal " Ranger" off 12_terminal " Dmenu" off 13_terminal " Rofi" off 14_terminal " Build Essential" off 15_terminal " SSH" off 16_terminal " Urxvt" off 17_terminal " Sakura" off 18_terminal " Terminator" off 19_terminal " Tilix" off 20_terminal " Xterm" off #F "<----Category: Terminal Customization---->" on 1_customize " Neofetch" off 2_customize " Screenfetch" off 3_customize " Figlet" off 4_customize " Lolcat" off 5_customize " Powerline" off #G "<----Category: Email---->" on 1_email " Thunderbird" off 2_email " Neomutt" off 3_email " Geary" off #H "<----Category: Web Browsers/Downloaders---->" on 1_web " Chromium" off 2_web " Google Chrome" off 3_web " Vivaldi" off 4_web " ICE-SSB-Application" off 5_web " Transmission" off #I "<----Category: Networking---->" on 1_network " SAMBA" off #J "<----Category: Graphics---->" on 1_graphics " Nvidia Driver" off 2_graphics " AMD Driver" off #K "<----Category: Sound---->" on 1_sound " Pulse Audio" off 2_sound " ALSA" off #L "<----Category: Fonts---->" on 1_font " Microsoft fonts" off 2_font " Ubuntu fonts" off #M "<----Category: Icons---->" on 1_icon " Numix icons" off 2_icon " Moka icons" off 3_icon " Mate icons" off 4_icon " Papirus icons" off 5_icon " Deepin-icons" off #N "<----Category: Photo Viewing/Editing---->" on 1_photo " Feh" off 2_photo " Gimp" off 3_photo " Inkscape" off 4_photo " Digikam" off 5_photo " Darktable" off 6_photo " Shotwell" off #O "<----Category: Media Viewing/Editing/Converting---->" on 1_media " Handbrake" off 2_media " Kdenlive" off 3_media " VLC" off 4_media " Audacity" off 5_media " Plex Media Server" off 6_media " Simple Screen Recorder" off 7_media " OBS Studio" off 8_media " Optical Drive Software" off 9_media " SM Player" off 10_media " FFmpeg" off #P "<----Category: Gaming---->" on 1_gaming " Steam" off 2_gaming " Lutris" off #Q "<----Category: File Explorer---->" on 1_files " Nemo" off 2_files " Thunar" off 3_files " Pcmanfm" off 4_files " Caja" off 5_files " Nautilus" off 6_files " Dolphin" off #R "<----Category: Desktop Customization---->" on 1_desktop " nitrogen" off 2_desktop " variety" off 3_desktop " lxappearance" off 4_desktop " conky" off 5_desktop " QT matches GTK" off 6_desktop " Vimix Theme" off 7_desktop " Adapta Theme" off 8_desktop " Polybar" off #S "<----Category: File Systems---->" on 1_filesystem " ZFS" off 2_filesystem " Exfat" off #T "<----Category: Virtualizaion---->" on 1_virtual " Virtualbox" off 2_virtual " Gnome Boxes" off #U "<----Category: System---->" on 1_system " Swappiness=10" off V "Post Install Auto Clean Up & Update" off) choices=$("${cmd[@]}" "${options[@]}" 2>&1 >/dev/tty) clear for choice in $choices do case $choice in # Section A -----------------------Repositories---------------------------- 1_repos) # Find the standard user you created during installation and make it a variable User=$(getent passwd 1000 | awk -F: '{ print $1}') # Echo the user into the sudoers file echo "$User ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers sleep 1 ;; 2_repos) #Enable Contrib and Non-free Repos echo "enabling Contrib and Non-free Repos" cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list.bak sed -e '/Binary/s/^/#/g' -i /etc/apt/sources.list sed -i 's/main/main contrib non-free/gI' /etc/apt/sources.list apt update sleep 1 ;; # 3_repos) # #Enable Testing Repos # echo "enabling Bullseye Repos" # #cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list.bak # #echo "deb http://deb.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # apt update # sleep 1 # ;; # 4_repos) # #Enable Unstable Repos # echo "enabling Unstable Repos" # #cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list.bak # #echo "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # #echo "deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debain unstable main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # apt update # sleep 1 # ;; # 5_repos) # #Enable Experimental Repos # cat /etc/apt/sources.list >> /etc/apt/sources.list.bak # #echo "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debain experimental main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # #echo "deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian experimental main contrib non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list # apt update # sleep 1 # ;; 6_repos) #Return sources.list to original echo "Returning /etc/apt/sources.list to its Original State cat /etc/apt/sources.list.original > /etc/apt/sources.list apt update sleep 1 ;; 7_repos) #Install dependencies echo "installing dependencies" sudo apt install curl wget apt-transport-https dirmngr echo "getting custom kernel" codename="$(find /etc/apt -type f -name '*.list' | xargs grep -E '^deb' | awk '{print $3}' | grep -Eo '^[a-z]+' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tail -n1 | grep -Eo '[a-z]+$')" && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install apt-transport-https && echo -e "deb http://liquorix.net/debian $codename main\ndeb-src http://liquorix.net/debian $codename main\n\n# Mirrors:\n#\n# Unit193 - France\n# deb http://mirror.unit193.net/liquorix $codename main\n# deb-src http://mirror.unit193.net/liquorix $codename main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/liquorix.list && curl https://liquorix.net/linux-liquorix.pub | sudo apt-key add - && sudo apt-get update echo "DONE" echo "running updates" sudo apt update echo "YOU CAN INSTALL THE NEW KERNEL MANUALLY NOW OR WHEN THIS SCRIPT FINISHES" # Section B ---------------------Alternate Installers---------------------------- 1_installer) #Install snap.d echo "Installing Snap.d" sudo apt install snapd -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_installer) #Install flatpak echo "installing Flatpak" sudo apt install flatpak -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_installer) #Install Synaptic echo "installing Synaptic" sudo apt install synaptic -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_installer) #Install PIP echo "installing PIP -python installer" sudo apt install python-pip python3-pip -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section C ------------------------Text Editors------------------------------ 1_editor) #Install Vim echo "Installing VIM" sudo apt install vim -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_editor) #Install Nano echo "Installing Nano" sudo apt install nano -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_editor) #Install Geany echo "Installing Geany" sudo apt install geany -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_editor) #Install Emacs echo "Installing Emacs" sudo apt install emacs -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_editor) #Install Gedit" echo "Installing Gedit" sudo apt install gedit -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section D ---------------------------Phone------------------------------------ 1_phone) #Install Everything for Android Phones echo "Installing Android SDK, ADB, Fastboot, and Build Tools" sudo apt install android-sdk adb fastboot android-sdk-build-tools android-sdk-common android-sdk-platform-tools -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_phone) #Install Everything to do with an iPhone" echo "Installing All Packages for iPhone" sudo apt install ideviceinstaller libimobiledevice-utils python-imobiledevice libimobiledevice6 libplist3 libplist-utils python-plist ifuse usbmuxd libusbmuxd-tools gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-fuse -yy sudo echo "user_allow-other" >> /etc/fuse.conf sudo usermod -aG fuse $User sleep 1 ;; # Section E --------------------------Terminal Programs--------------------------- 1_terminal) #Install Compression Programs echo "Installing Compression Programs" sudo apt install p7zip p7zip-full unrar-free unrar unrar-free unzip zip -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_terminal) #Install Firewall echo "Installing UFW" sudo apt install ufw gufw -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_terminal) #Install Hardware Identifier" echo "Installing lshw" sudo apt install lshw lshw-gtk -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_terminal) #Install Cups echo "Installing CUPS" sudo apt install cups cups-pdf -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_terminal) #Install Youtube-dl echo "Installing youtube-dl" sudo apt install wget -yy sudo wget https://yt-dl.org/latest/youtube-dl -O /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl hash -r sleep 1 ;; 6_terminal) #Install Htop" echo "Installing Htop" sudo apt install htop -yy sleep 1 ;; 7_terminal) #Install Parted echo "Installing Parted and Gparted" sudo apt install parted gparted -yy sleep 1 ;; 8_terminal) #Install Curl echo "Installing Curl" sudo apt install curl -yy sleep 1 ;; 9_terminal) #Install Wget echo "Installing Wget" sudo apt install wget -yy sleep 1 ;; 10_terminal) #Install Ranger echo "Installing Ranger" sudo apt install ranger -yy sleep 1 ;; 11_terminal) #Install Dmenu echo "Installing Dmenu" sudo apt install dmenu -yy sleep 1 ;; 12_terminal) #Install Rofi echo "Installing Rofi" sudo apt install rofi -yy sleep 1 ;; 13_terminal) #Install Build-Essential echo "Installing Build-Essential" sudo apt install build-essential cmake -yy sleep 1 ;; 14_terminal) #Install SSH echo "Installing SSH" sudo apt install ssh -yy sudo systemctl enable ssh sudo systemctl start ssh sleep 1 ;; 15_terminal) #Install Urxvt echo "Installing Urxvt" sudo apt install rxvt-unicode -yy sleep 1 ;; 16_terminal) #Install Sakura echo "Installing Sakura" sudo apt install sakura -yy sleep 1 ;; 17_terminal) #Install Terminator echo "Installing Terminator" sudo apt install terminator -yy sleep 1 ;; 18_terminal) #Install Tilix echo "Installing Tilix" sudo apt install tilix -yy sleep 1 ;; 19_terminal) #Install Xterm echo "Install XTerm" sudo apt install xterm -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section F -------------------------Terminal Customization-------------------------- 1_customize) #Install Neofetch echo "Installing Neofetch" sudo apt install Neofetch -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_customize) #Install Screenfetch echo "Installing Screenfetch" sudo apt install screenfetch -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_customize) #Install Figlet echo "Installing Figlet" sudo apt install figlet -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_customize) #Install Lolcat echo "Installing lolcat" sudo apt install lolcat -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_customize) #Install Powerline echo "Installing Powerline" sudo apt install powerline git -yy #Make a powerline font folder sudo mkdir /usr/share/fonts/powerline # clone powerline fonts from github git clone https://github.com/powerline/fonts # change directories into fonts folder created by cloning powerline from github cd fonts # run installation script for powerline fonts ./install.sh # copy powerline fonts into the powerline folder wer created eariler sudo cp /home/$USER/.local.share/fonts/*Powerline* /usr/share/fonts/powerline #backup the bashrc just to be safe sudo cp .bashrc .bashrc.bak #enable Powerline Shell echo "if [ -f /usr/share/powerline/bindings/bash/powerline.sh ]; then source /usr/share/powerline/bindings/bash/powerline.sh fi" >> .bashrc # Restart Bash . .bashrc sleep 1 ;; # Section G ----------------------------------Terminal Customization------------------------ 1_email) #Install Thunderbird echo "Installing Thunderbird" sudo apt install thunderbird -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_email) #Install NeoMutt echo "Install NeoMutt" sudo apt install neomutt -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_email) #Install Geary echo "Installing Geary" sudo apt install geary -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section H ----------------------------------Web Browsers/Downloaders------------------------- 1_web) #Install Chromium echo "Installing Chromium" sudo apt install chromium -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_web) #Install Google Chrome echo "Installing Gooogle Chrome" sudo apt install wget -yy wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb sudo dpkg -i google-chome*.deb sleep 1 ;; 3_web) #Install Vivaldi echo "Installing Vivaldi" sudo apt install wget -yy wget https://downloads.vivaldi.com/stable/vivaldi-stable_2.1.1337.47-1_amd64.deb sudo dpkg -i vivaldi*.deb sleep 1 ;; 4_web) #Install ICE-SSB-Application echo "Installing ICE-SSB-Application" sudo apt install wget -yy wget https://launchpad.net/~peppermintos/+archive/ubuntu/ice-dev/+files/ice_6.0.5_all.deb sudo dpkg -i ice*.deb sleep 1 ;; 5_web) #Install Transmission echo "Installing Transmission" sudo apt install transmission-gtk -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section I ----------------------------------Networking---------------------------------------------- 1_network) #Install Samba echo "Installing Samba" sudo apt install samba samba-common samba-libs cifs-utils libcups2 cups smbclient gvfs-backends net-tools network-manager network-manager-openvpn network-manager-openvpn-gnome #backup smb.conf sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak sudo chmod 755 /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak sudo chmod 755 /etc/samba/smb.conf sudo grep -v -E "^#|^;" /etc/samba/smb.conf.bak | grep . > /etc/samba/smb.conf sudo systemctl enable smbd sudo systemctl start smbd sudo systemctl enable nmbd sudo systemctl start nmbd sleep 1 ;; # Section J -------------------------------Graphics--------------------------------------------------- 1_graphics) #Install Nvidia Driver echo "Installing Nvidia Driver" echo "Make sure you have the contrib and non-free repos enabled and updated" sudo apt install nvidia-driver -yy sleep 1 ;; 1_graphics) #Install AMD Driver echo "Installing AMD firmware for graphics cards" sudo apt install firmware-amd-graphics -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section K --------------------------------------Sound---------------------------------------------- 1_sound) #Install Pulse Audio echo "Installing Pulse Audio" sudo apt install pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils pavucontrol pulseaudio-equalizer gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_sound) #Install ALSA echo "Installing ALSA" sudo apt install alsa-utils gstreamser1.0-alsa alsamixergui alsaplayer-gtk alsa-player-daemon alsa-player-common alsa-player-alsa libao-common libao-dbd libao-dev libao4 libasound2 libasound-data libasoundev-libasound-doc libasound-plugins -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section L -------------------------------------Fonts------------------------------------------------ 1_font) #Install Microsoft fonts echo "Installing Microsoft fonts" sudo apt install ttf-mscorefonts-installer -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_font) #Install Ubuntu fonts echo "Installing Ubuntu fonts" # make an ubuntu font folder sudo mkdir /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-fonts # download ubuntu font family sudo apt install wget unzip -yy wget https://assets.ubuntu.com/v1/fad7939b-ubuntu-font-family-0.83.zip unzip *.zip # change directories into unzipped ubuntu folder cd ubuntu-font-family* # move all ttf fonts into the ubuntu font folder we created eariler sudo mv *.ttf /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-fonts/ # change directories back home cd .. # remove all files dending in ".zip" rm *.zip # remove all folders beginning with "ubuntu-font-family" rm -r ubuntu-font-family* sleep 1 ;; # Section M ---------------------------------Icons--------------------------------------------------- 1_icon) #Install Numix Icons echo "Installing Numix Icons" sudo apt install numix-icon-theme -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_icon) #Install Moka Icons echo "Installing Moka Icons" sudo apt install moka-icon-theme -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_icon) #Install Mate Icons echo "Installing Mate Icons" sudo apt install mate-icon-theme mate-icon-theme-faenza -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_icon) #Install Papirus Icons echo "Installing Papirus Icons" sudo apt install papirus-icon-theme -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_icon) #Install Deepin Icons echo "Installing Deepin Icons" sudo apt install deepin-icon-theme -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section N ---------------------------------Photo Viewing/Editing-------------------------------------- 1_photo) #Install Feh echo "Installing Feh" sudo apt install feh -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_photo) #Install Gimp echo "Installing Gimp" sudo apt install gimp -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_photo) #Install Inkscape echo "Installing Inkscape" sudo apt install inkscape -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_photo) #Install Digikam echo "Installing Digikam" sudo apt install digikam -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_photo) #Install Darktable echo "Installing Darktable" sudo apt install darktable -yy sleep 1 ;; 6_photo) #Install Shotwell echo "Installing Shotwell" sudo apt install shotwell shotwell-common -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section O --------------------------Media Viewing/Editing/Converting--------------------------------- 1_media) #Install Handbrake echo "Installing Handbrake" sudo apt install handbrake -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_media) #Install Kdenlive echo "Installing Kdenlive" sudo apt install kdenlive -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_media) #Install VLC echo "Installing VLC" sudo apt install VLC -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_media) #Install Audacity echo "Installaing Audacity" sudo apt install audacity -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_media) #Install Plex Media Server echo "Installing Plex Media Server" sudo apt install wget -yy wget -q https://downloads.plex.tv/plex-media-server-new/1.16.2.1321-ad17d5f9e/debian/plexmediaserver_1.16.2.1321-ad17d5f9e_amd64.deb sudo dpkg -i plex*.deb sudo systemctl enable plexmediaserver sudo systemctl start plexmediaserver sleep 1 ;; 6_media) #Install Simple Screen Recorder echo "Installing Simple Screen Recorder" sudo apt install simplescreenrecorder -yy sleep 1 ;; 7_media) #Install OBS Studio echo "Installing OBS-Studio" sudo apt install obs-studio -yy sleep 1 ;; 8_media) #Install Optical Drive Software echo "Installing Optical Drive Software" sudo apt install k3b asunder -yy sudo chmod 4711 /usr/bin/cdrdao sudo chmod 4711 /usr/bin/wodim sleep 1 ;; 9_media) #Install SM Player echo "Installing SMPlayer" sudo apt install smplayer smplayer-themes -yy sleep 1 ;; 10_media) #Install FFmpeg echo "Install FFmpeg" sudo apt install ffmpeg -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section P --------------------------------Gaming------------------------------------------------- 1_gaming) #Installing Steam ulimit -Hn > ulimit.txt # fix permissions for scripting sudo chown $USER /etc/apt/sources.list.d # add 32bit architecture sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 # update sudo apt update -yy # Install vulkan and mesa drivers sudo apt install mesa-vulkan-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 -yy # Install dxvk sudo apt install dxvk dxvk-wine32-development dxvk-wine64-development -yy # Install Steam sudo apt install steam -yy # Install game mode sudo apt install gamemode -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_gaming) #Install Lutris echo " Installing Lutris" # import wine gpg key sudo chown $User /etc/apt/sources.list sudo chmod 755 /etc/apt/sources.list sudo chown $User /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sudo chmod 755 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sudo wget -nc https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/winehq.key # add wine gpg key sudo apt-key add winehq.key # add wine repository sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list.d/wine.list sudo echo "deb https://dl.winehq.org/wine-builds/debian buster main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/wine.list # update sudo apt update -yy # Install wine staging sudo apt install --install-recommends winehq-staging -yy # Install wine-tricks sudo apt install winetricks -yy # Install PlayOnLinux sudo apt install playonlinux -yy # Import lutris repository key sudo wget https://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_9.0/Release.key # Add key with apt sudo apt-key add Release.key # Add Lutris Repository sudo touch /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lutris.list sudo echo "deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/strycore/Debian_9.0/ ./" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lutris.list $update sudo apt install lutris -yy # Change Permissions to Root sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list sudo chmod 600 /etc/apt/sources.list sudo chown root:root /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sudo chmod 600 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sleep 1 ;; # Section Q -----------------------------------File Explorers----------------------------------------------- 1_files) #Install Nemo echo "Installing Nemo" sudo apt install nemo nemo-python nemo-data nemo-fileroller ffmpegthumbnailer nemo-nextcloud nemo-owncloud -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_files) #Install Thunar echo "Installing Thunar" sudo apt install thunar thunar-data thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin thunar-vcs-plugin thunar-volman ffmpegthumbnailer -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_files) #Install Pcmanfm echo "Installing Pcmanfm" sudo apt install pcmanfm pcmanfm-qt ffmpegthumbnailer -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_files) #Install Caja echo "Installing Caja" sudo apt install caja caja-common caja-actions caja-actions-common caja-admin caja-extensions-common caja-image-converter caja-open-terminal caja-sendto caja-share caja-wallpaper caja-xattr-tage caja-rename caja-seahorse caja-nextcloud caja-owncloud caja-dropbox ffmpegthumbnailer -yy sleep 1 ;; 5_files) #Install Nautilus echo "Installing Nautilus" sudo apt install nautilus nautilus-data nautilus-admin nautilus-compare nautilus-hide nautilus-scripts-manager nautilus-sendto nautilus-share ffmpegthumbnailer -yy sleep 1 ;; 6_files) #Install Dolphin echo "Installing Dolphin" sudo apt install doplhin dolphin-dev ffmpegthumbnailer -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section R ----------------------------------Desktop Customization--------------------------------------------- 1_desktop) #Install nitrogen echo "Installing nitrogen" sudo apt install nitrogen -yy sleep 1 ;; 2_desktop) #Install Variety echo "Installing Variety" sudo apt install variety -yy sleep 1 ;; 3_desktop) #Install LX Appearance echo "Installing LXAppearance" sudo apt install lxappearance -yy sleep 1 ;; 4_desktop) #Install conky echo "Installing Conky" sudo apt install conky-all sleep 1 ;; 5_desktop) #Make qt match gtk echo "Make QT match GTK Themes" sudo chown $User /etc/environment sudo chmod 755 /etc/environment sudo echo "QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=gtk2" >> /etc/environment sudo chown root:root /etc/environment sudo chmod 600 /etc/environment sleep 1 ;; 6_desktop) #Install Vimix Theme echo "Installing Vimix Theme" #Install git sudo apt install git -yy #Clone the git Repo echo "Cloning the Git Repo" git clone https://github.com/vinceliuice/vimix-gtk-themes cd vimix-gtk-themes ./Install cd .. sudo rm -r vimix* sleep 1 ;; 7_desktop) #Install Adapta Theme echo "Installing Adapta Themes" sudo apt install adapta-gtk-theme -yy sleep 1 ;; 8_desktop) # Install polybar echo "installing Dependencies" sudo apt install cmake cmake-data libcairo2-dev libxcb1-dev libxcb-ewmh-dev -yy sudo apt install libxcb-icccm4-dev libxcb-image0-dev libxcb-randr0-dev libxcb-util0-dev -yy sudo apt install libxcb-xkb-dev pkg-config python-xcbgen xcb-proto libxcb-xrm-dev -yy sudo apt install libasound2-dev libmpdclient-dev libiw-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev -yy sudo apt install libpulse-dev ccache libxcb-composite0 libxcb-composite0-dev -yy # Download from polybar from github echo "Downloading Polybar form Github" git clone https://github.com/jaagr/polybar.git # Change directories into polybar cd polybar echo "Installing Polybar" ./build.sh ;; # Section S -----------------------------------File Systems------------------------------------------- 1_filesystem) #Install ZFS echo " Make sure you have the contrib and non-free repos enabled and updated" sleep 1 echo "Installing the headers for your kernel" sudo apt install linux-headers-"$(uname -r)" linux-image-amd64 -yy echo "Installing the ZFS DKMS and Utilities" sudo apt install zfs-dkms zfsutils-linux -yy echo "Installing kernel modules" sudo modprobe zfs echo "Enabling ZFS Services" sudo systemctl enable zfs.target sudo systemctl enable zfs-import-cache sudo systemctl enable zfs-mount sudo systemctl enable zfs-import.target sudo systemctl enable zfs-import-scan sudo systemctl enable zfs-share echo "Starting ZFS Services" sudo systemctl start zfs.target sudo systemctl start zfs-import-cache sudo systemctl start zfs-mount sudo systemctl start zfs-import.target sudo systemctl start zfs-import-scan sudo systemctl start zfs-share sleep 1 ;; 2_filesystem) #Install Exfat echo "Installing Exfat Utilities" sudo apt install exfat-utils -yy sleep 1 ;; # Section T ------------------------------------Virtualization------------------------------------------ 1_virtual) #Install Virtualbox echo "wget is needed... installing" sudo apt install wget -yy echo "Setting up the Repository" wget -q https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox_2016.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - wget -q https://www.virtualbox.org/download/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add - echo "Adding Repo to Sources.list" sudo chown $USER /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sudo chmod 755 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ sudo echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian bionic contrib" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list echo "Running Updates" sudo apt update -yy echo "Installing Virtualbox" sudo apt install virtualbox-6.0 -yy echo "Downloading Extension Pack" wget -q https://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/6.0.10/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-6.0.10.vbox-extpack echo "Adding user to the vbox user group" sudo usermod -aG vboxusers $User sleep 1 ;; 2_virtual) #Install Gnome Boxes echo "Installing Gnome Boxes" sudo apt install gnome-boxes -yy sleep 1 ;; V) #Cleanup echo "Cleaning up" sudo apt update -yy sudo apt upgrade -yy sudo apt autoremove -yy rm -rf $tmp_dir ;; esac done fiWhen trying to performe “sudo update”, I got this response…
My system is in portuguese ” Falhou obter” means “Failed in obtaining”…sudo apt update Hit:1 http://linux.teamviewer.com/deb stable InRelease Obter:2 http://glua.ua.pt/pub/mx-packages/antix/buster buster InRelease [3 B] Err:2 http://glua.ua.pt/pub/mx-packages/antix/buster buster InRelease Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?) Hit:3 https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com stable InRelease Hit:4 http://security.debian.org buster/updates InRelease Hit:5 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports InRelease Hit:6 http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian buster-updates InRelease Hit:7 http://packages.microsoft.com/repos/edge stable InRelease Hit:8 http://ftp.pt.debian.org/debian buster InRelease Obter:9 http://ftp.cica.es/mirrors/Linux/MX-Packages/antix/buster buster InRelease [3 B] Err:9 http://ftp.cica.es/mirrors/Linux/MX-Packages/antix/buster buster InRelease Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?) A ler as listas de pacotes... Pronto E: Falhou obter http://glua.ua.pt/pub/mx-packages/antix/buster/dists/buster/InRelease Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?) E: The repository 'http://glua.ua.pt/pub/mx-packages/antix/buster buster InRelease' is no longer signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. E: http://ftp.cica.es/mirrors/Linux/MX-Packages/antix/buster/dists/buster/InRelease Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NOSPLIT' (does the network require authentication?) E: The repository 'http://ftp.cica.es/mirrors/Linux/MX-Packages/antix/buster buster InRelease' is no longer signed. N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default. N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details.P.
- This topic was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by anticapitalista.
- This topic was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by PPC.
cherith_reddy
hey guys,
I got an old Lenovo ThinkCentre with Intel Core 2 Duo inside processor running on Windows XP Professional
I need help in finding out if its is 64 bit or 32 bit or something lessThese are the specs of my PC
OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
version:5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
system Name; XXXXXXXX
system Manufacturer: LENOVO
system model: 9389AQ3
system Type: x86-based PC
processor: x86 Family 6 Model 15 stepping 13 GenuineInte] ~2194 MHz
processor: x86 Family 6 model 15 stepping 13 GenuineIntel ~2194 MHz
BIOS version/date: LENOVO 20KT47AUS, 1/17/2008
SMBIOS version :2.4
Windows Directory; C:\WINOOWS
system Directory; C:\WINDOWS\ System32
boot Device: \pevice\Harddiskvolumel
locale: united states
hardware Abstraction Layer version = “5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm. 040803-2158)”
user name :
Time Zone: India Standard Time
total Physical Memory: 1,024.00 MB
available physical memory: 365.17 MB
total Virtual Memory: 2.00 GB
available virtual Memory: 1.96 GB
Page File Space: 2.38 GB
Page File; C:\pagefile. sys
Thanks in Advance- This topic was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by cherith_reddy.
- This topic was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by cherith_reddy.
In reply to: [SOLVED] help for downloading Antix Linux
You’ll have to select the “.iso” file you want to download… There are many options because antiX comes in 32 bit (386) or 64 bits (x64) versions, also each of those versions come in “net”, “core”, “base” and “full” (this are ordered in increasing features).
For a 64 bits computer (build in the last 10 years or so) I would advise downloading “antiX-19.3_x64-full.iso”Then you’ll have to burn that iso file to a DVD-ROM or make live USB pen-drive using that file…
P.
thanks a lot this will help
can you tell if this is 64 bit or 32bit
these are the specsOS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
version:5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
system Name; XXXXXXXX
system Manufacturer: LENOVO
system model: 9389AQ3
system Type: x86-based PC
processor: x86 Family 6 Model 15 stepping 13 GenuineInte] ~2194 MHz
processor: x86 Family 6 model 15 stepping 13 GenuineIntel ~2194 MHz
BIOS version/date: LENOVO 20KT47AUS, 1/17/2008
SMBIOS version :2.4
Windows Directory; C:\WINOOWS
system Directory; C:\WINDOWS\ System32
boot Device: \pevice\Harddiskvolumel
locale: united states
hardware Abstraction Layer version = “5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm. 040803-2158)”
user name :
Time Zone: India Standard Time
total Physical Memory: 1,024.00 MB
available physical memory: 365.17 MB
total Virtual Memory: 2.00 GB
available virtual Memory: 1.96 GB
Page File Space: 2.38 GB
Page File; C:\pagefile. sys- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by cherith_reddy.
olsztyn
It also has an button to run “Microsoft Office On-line” that you may have to delete in “Button 4”)
Thank you PPC for this updated procedure, which I will attempt to follow… Your desktop image looks very nice. I may not need to delete link from Button 4, as this seems a good thing to have…
Thanks and Regards…Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters@olsztyn: feel free to ask for help, when possible, I’ll try to provide it.
Also, there’ a link to my latest toolbar config file (I probably won’t change it any more, it does all I want, and looks, at least to me, very cool)
The “how-to” I provided above is not complex, but does have many steps that do have to be done in order to get the best final result possible:
1- Install tint2 and skippy-xd (that I believe was recently added to antiX’s repo- because it just got upgraded on both my test machines, if not, please ignore the skippy-xd part, that’s not essential):
sudo apt install tint2 skippy-xd2- before using tint2, you have to correctly configure fluxbox:
Follow all parts of step 2, on my Original Post.
Please not that the “single quotes” on step 2.1 are NOT to be entered into the fluxbox “init” file! (they were an error on the OP, they were supposed to be a “code” box)
The same applies for the text you are supposed to enter in the “apps” file, on step 2.33- Edit tint2’s config file, by running this command:
geany ~/.config/tint2/tint2rcand replace all the text there with the one you can find here, if you want my original toolbar: https://pastebin.com/raw/hkX09Zzs
OR, if you want the slightly redesigned toolbar:
https://pastebin.com/raw/xkLBtWQJ(EDIT: you’ll have to edit Drill’s appimage path in “Button 2” in the file I linked, sorry… It also has an button to run “Microsoft Office On-line” that you may have to delete in “Button 4”)
Changes:
-It’s black, shows colored bars under running application icons.
-The “find” icon now works even without “Drill”- left click it to search for files in your “home” folder using SpaceFM, right click it to search for applications using “app-select”. If you have a working Drill appimage, placed on your home folder, middle click the icon, to launch it …
-I changed the start menu, internet and skippy-xd icons, to have a unified “system icon’s” theme and color. Also moved skippy-xd nearer to the start menu.
(Note that what the start menu display is not an icon, but a character, that looks like a “X”, or a bit like the windows logo sideways! If you want to use an icon, remember to delete that character)
-I added the code to display CPU and RAM usage, also an interactive Volume icon (you can disable the more memory hungry default “volumeicon”, and also conky, if you don’t need it) BUT there are only displayed if you have the respective executable scripts on your home folder, if not they don’t display at all.4- Save all the changes, restart your computer… If you are not already using a fluxbox desktop, switch to it. you should now be able to see tint2’s taskbar, with all the icons and functionalities (like a start menu, that summons fluxbox root menu), a “find” icon, a “show previews” of running apps icon, a File Manager button and all the applications on the launcher. Near the clock you should get the “internet/wi-fi” icon, and, to the left of the clock, the “exit” button.
5- To add/remove icons to the “launcher” part of the toolbar: right click the start menu > 2 windows pop up, the important one is “Proprieties”. click the horizontal tab “launcher” and add/remove/reorder the applications you want to have on the the launcher. click “apply” when done and close both tint2 windows…
6- If you want to have tint2’s own “volume icon”, and also see CPU and RAM usage displayed on the toolbar, you can to this steps to install the scripts that the respective toolbar “executors” need:
-For CPU:
Save this link in you “home” folder, under the name “cpu”:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/I-LeCorbeau/tint2-executors/master/cpu-For MEM:
Save this link in you “home” folder, under the name “mem”:
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/I-LeCorbeau/tint2-executors/master/mem-For Volume:
Copy the text inside the “Volume script”, on this post, to an empty text file called “vol”, on your “home” folder. https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/how-to-add-feature-to-antix-and-also-more-window-10-like-with-tint2/page/4/#post-43521Navigate to your home folder using SpaceFM, right click each file that you just created, then press CTRL+P, to enter their proprieties, and check all 3 “execute” boxes, to be on the safe side, then click the “ok” button.
7- log off and back on, to see the changes (or reboot, there are faster ways, but, doing this you can’t go wrong)
8- If you also want to change the menu, simply follow the 5th step on my second post, it’s just copy and paste inside the “menu” file, no restart required- the menu updates in real time…
P.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by PPC.
- This reply was modified 2 years, 6 months ago by PPC.
In reply to: Autostart applications help please
Hallo BobC,
thanks for coming in,
the autostart as you gave me does not put LO on the correct desktops, calc 3 writer 4.
The original version I have been using for months does, so might as well stay that way.
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The method for default sizing of windows is it seems, an absolutely appalling feature of
Libreoffice, with no logical way to override the behaviour.The problem is subject of posts on LO org and as it seems there is no intent to resolve,
seems that users who ask for usable behaviour in the age of wide screens and 4K are being treated as
menial idiotic gripers. reminds of Mozilla where same often applies..Key is the so called start center, somehow that is reading screen size and opens at full screen,
that behaviour is saved in the config and causes all applications in the office suite to open the same way.Logical for the user, who wrote it that idiotic way, microsoft ????. Making users and Forum members waste
hours of their lives to work around this crap. I am disgusted and very angry.
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To get LO to open Calc, Writer other parts of the suite at a given size and position.
1/ Close LO completely.
2/ Using a file manager set to showing hidden files open /home/.config. Delete the folder libreoffice.
3/ Open the Libreoffice start center on the desktop you wish to use Calc on. Resize the START CENTER WINDOW
to the proportions you wish for. Open calc. Close it using the Menu, close the start center using the menu.
4/ Do proceedure as above substituting writer/draw/impress/math for calc.Bob would you please follow and confirm, or we need to correct so this can be used by others.
I will compare config files, new and corrected to see how the changes are stored.
Maybe we can come up with an easier way to set some sensible defaults. And lock them.Once this is quality checked we can put it in wiki and on MX forum. I found no solution there.
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