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  • #73632
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    ModdIt

      If you want to get rid of mozilla’s telemetry there are plenty of opportunities, Please provide some proven working solutions
      which do not need code patching and recompiling the browser.

      Much of what gives the telemetry effect is not apparent some more than devious and involves several steps in data processing
      both by moz and its paying partners…

      Member
      PenguinGuy

        Trying to kill Nvidia X-Server so I can install the proprietary drivers & replace the open source Nouveau drivers.

        When I kill x-server by finding the PID with pkill X then kill -9 ‘PID’ it will just log out & restart it (even if I login as root).

        Apparently you can stop/kill properly with systemtcl, but that doesn’t work on this antix.

        So I found this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SysVinit_to_Systemd_Cheatsheet

        But when I try to use the service X stop in the terminal I get X: unrecognized service.

        It doesn’t seem to work for any service (not only X).

        Any ideas?

        Another option might be logging in by some kind of terminal mode & running the install script there.

        #73428

        In reply to: WARNING!

        Forum Admin
        anticapitalista

          All antiX packages are signed by me and will have the suffix nosystemd or antix.

          I have updated all my installations and frugal set ups without issue.
          Of course if any user has a frankenantiX (eg ppa repos, mixed stable/testing/sid repos), all bets are off.

          What warnings? I mean obvious ones where apt dist-upgrade shows a lot of removals.
          Users can simulate the install with

          apt dist-upgrade -s

          For runit, 4 packages will get removed (system-config-printer, runit-services-core-antix, runit-services-base-antix and runit-services-full-antix)
          For sysVinit, systemd-config-printer will be removed.
          If user needs it, wait for new system-config-printer debs to hit the repos

          If anyone is using a desktop environment like lxde that requires policykit-1, do not use the version of policykit in dev.
          If you do, you will get what happens in this thread.

          https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/gdbus-error-lxde/

          Once again, if you are not sure, post here first.

          • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: added more info
          • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by anticapitalista. Reason: Revised info about system-config-printer

          Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

          antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

          #73402
          Member
          schproodle

            I changed a password for a web site. A popup dialog box apparently identified as gnome-key-ring appeared to offer saving the password.

            EeePC, ASUSTek 1000HE - Atom N280, 1667 MHz, 32 bit - RAM 992.2 MiB
            Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
            Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 & zzzfm
            Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021

            #73249
            Moderator
            christophe

              Today Startpage.com tried to “help” me with this suggestion:
              Apparently “dogs” makes as much sense to modern computing as “dos” does. 🙂

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              confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

              #73218
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              ModdIt

                Maybe of interest for some, No garantee for stability, running now on a Broadwell i5 quad core.
                No screen tearing apparent, fox palemoon both bad on this machine with Legacy Nvidia card and no driver.

                hopefully it will no longer make the desktop freeze at irregular intervalls. Worst site for freezing, this forum.

                Latest debs for ungoogled chromium
                Built on Debian 11 Bullseye amd64
                Backported node-typescript from testing/sid
                Latest LLVM from apt.llvm.org
                Built with -march=corei7-avx C/C++ flag (NOT skylake like in previous releases, this time)
                Also built with GN flags enable_platform_hevc=true and enable_platform_hevc_encoding=true, but they don’t seem to have any effect.

                Available at https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium-binaries/releases

                Install ungoogled chromium first then common, driver, sandbox, rest incl l10 package.
                Install in wrong order you will get errors.
                uBlock origin install, open settings, extensions enanable developer option, switch at right top pf screen. I used the install unpacked
                extension buttion, went to downloaded unpacked extension, one click installed it turn off developer option, restart.
                chrome://about/ is a list of many interna
                You can make advanced settings in chrome://flags/
                I have anti fingerprinting options and clear cache on shutdown enabled, latter option is unavailable in other chromium based browsers.

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                #73056
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                Xecure

                  Debian’s response to this initiative was very negative:

                  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2021/07/msg00031.html
                  On 2021/07/02 19:16, Stephan Lachnit wrote:
                  > Today I discovered a relatively new project called “Debian User Repository” [1].

                  For what it’s worth, the Debian trademark team is already aware of this.

                  -Jonathan

                  They forced the creator to change the name:

                  https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2021/07/msg00029.html
                  […]
                  It mainly *targets* Ubuntu, but there’s no reason it wouldn’t be functional on Debian distributions. Dependencies can be listed for both distros through makedeb’s release-specific dependency functionality [1], allowing the DUR’s (as stated before, I’m open to changing the name) PKGBUILDs to work and provide for any number of systems.
                  […]

                  and they (Debian) wanted no part with it at all.

                  I am really not interested in a system like AUR, which provides instructions to download the source and BUILD the packages, installing lots of build dependencies that bloats the OS. I would have preferred a contribs repository where people could upload already prepared packages, so that we don’t need to add lots of sources or PPAs to the system to be able to install the packages I need. Just adding one source (the contribs repo), with the corresponding release (bullseye, testing, sid…) and an option for free, non-free and experimental categories, would make Debian a much better place for us, Debian users. But the Debian leaders have no interest in this (nor in a Debian AUR), and only want maintainers (which need to be promoted and selected by them, from members with a long time contributing to Debian) instead of a “wild west” community of contributions.

                  If anyone wants something similar to AUR, that builds packages from source, they don’t need any DUR or similar. Simply study how to install NIX in antiX and build and install the packages from there.

                  antiX Live system enthusiast.
                  General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

                  #73035

                  In reply to: New users new ideas

                  Member
                  PPC

                    On your second point.

                    The bad part: You have to always remember this: there are hundreds of Linux Distros out there. And antix is a “niche” distro, with few users, so there’s almost 0 chance of you finding on-line help for it, except on the forums.

                    The good part is this: despite the hundreds of distros I referred, they mostly come from the “MAIN” distros, like Debian, Red Hat, Suse and Arch (there are some distros that are not based on any of this, but they are few)
                    Most distros (antiX included) are based in Debian. So, if you want to find help on “how to use XXX app on antiX”, check on-line on “how to use XXX app on Debian”, and probably those instructions will work on antiX too (stay away from any instructions that talk about systemd- it’s the main difference between antiX and pure Debian, we don’t use systemd)
                    Do you know what else is based in Debian? One of the most used Distros on the World: Ubuntu. Searching for help on how to use an app on Ubuntu may work on antiX. Once again, stay away from systemd, or PPA’s (that usually are Ubuntu specific and my trash your antiX install). Of course, instructions about installing stuff from the Ubuntu app store only work in Ubuntu and Ubuntu based distros (we have our very own Package Installer), also Snaps don’t work on antiX, because they depend on systemd.

                    Any instructions about installing something using Synaptic probably work 100% of the time in antiX too (exceptions: something systemd related or very Ubuntu/whatever specific)!

                    P.

                    Edit: I searched “Odoo 14 debian” on duckduckgo
                    The very first result was the link below, try it and see it it works, if it does not, at leat I teached you to “fish”, you can now find out most of what you need on-line… Please note that instructions about “systemctl” – mean configuring a process under systemd, you’ll have to find out how to do it without systemd (isn’t computing challenging??? 🙂 )

                    https://computingforgeeks.com/how-to-install-odoo-on-debian-10-linux/

                    Edit2: How do you manage processes without systemd? I found out a very nice page: https://unix.cafe/wp/en/2017/04/howto-manage-a-service-in-systemd-sysvinit-upstart-runit-and-openrc/

                    Click the “Systemd” or SysV Init” tabs to understand how to start, stop, etc, a process in any one of this process managers…

                    My work here is done (flies ways to perform some Christmas gifts shopping)

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                    #72842
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                    roland

                      Recently I installed 21 Grup Yorum on a build and was gratified to find Connman up and running ‘out of the box’. Since then however I have been plagued with mysterious and apparently random loss of connection to the lan even though Conky continues to show the 2 panels up and down transmissions, and characters appear to be moving up and down. I did run the Wifi switch script to confirm my use of Connman. Sadly I have now run the Wifi switch script to revert to Ceni, and which has apparently cured the problem.

                      #72757
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                      ahoppin

                        Robin:
                        > Ms.Linksys has to be the DNS provider for your local network, set up to forward all
                        > queries she can’t answer herself to Mr.Mofi.

                        That makes sense.

                        I’ve configured Antix to use static IP address and DNS, with DNS at 192.168.1.1 – that’s the Linksys. Confirmed it with the contents of /etc/resolv.conf.

                        The other machines currently on the net are also set to static DNS at the Linksys.

                        Do I need to do anything else to make the Linksys the DNS server?

                        —–

                        If I run arp -a on freshly booted live Antix – static DNS on the Linksys – it returns only

                        _gateway (192.168.1.1) at xx:xx … [ether] on eth0

                        Nothing at all about any Netbios names anywhere.

                        If I then run findshares, it locates the Netbios machine names and shares, just as it did before.

                        After I’ve run findshares the first time, arp -a says something different:

                        _gateway (192.168.1.1) at xx.xx … [ether] on eth0
                        ? (192.168.1.117) at xx:xx … [ether] on Eth0
                        ? (192.168.1.155) at xx:xx … [ether] on Eth0
                        ? (192.168.1.111) at xx:xx … [ether] on Eth0

                        So running findshares is changing something.

                        BUT – still no Netbios names, according to arp. And no pings by netbios names.

                        I read up a little on Netbios. If I understand it right, there are 4 levels of Netbios name resolution:

                        1. The client’s cache
                        2. The client’s LMHosts file (that’s on Win; no idea what Samba’s equivalent might be)
                        3. A WINS server (no such thing exists on my net, as far as I know)
                        4. Broadcast message to all machines on the net

                        Maybe #4 is what findshares is doing. Just a wild-donkey guess.

                        ALSO: Apparently some routers can implement either a Netbios master browser, or, less often, a WINS server.

                        I see nothing about either one of these in the Linksys config menus, so I don’t think it has either capability.

                        However, if Netbios name resolution can be done by broadcast message, I don’t see why the router would have to provide either WINS or master browser service. Unless Antix just isn’t able to do that.

                        This is all quite puzzling.

                        #72686
                        Member
                        ahoppin

                          dirkd:
                          > I found out that apparently something was wrong with the wifi configuration on my
                          > main (Antix21) machine. I would never have guessed.

                          Any idea what was wrong? I mean, the setup was working otherwise, right?

                          And what did you change to fix it?

                          > I decided to redo the configuration with Ceni. Not totally painless

                          I had a look at Ceni just now. It doesn’t look impossible, but it definitely looks more daunting than Connman, especially to a newbie. Some users might be put off by its text-mode UI.

                          I’m still puzzling over why changing your local machine’s setup allows that arp command to fetch more info from a remote machine. There’s my net-nitwittitude again.

                          > I thought it was useless experimenting with hostnames as long as I saw problems
                          > while pinging.

                          Aye. I looked at the connectshares script. One of the first things it does is ping the requested server.

                          > I mount important shares using /etc/fstab.

                          That sounds like a smart choice, especially for shares on a machine with a fixed IP address.

                          > Are you still interested in configuring fixed IP’s with Connman? I found out
                          > where the settings for that are hidden in Connman’s user interface this afternoon.

                          I’m all ears! Eh, all eyes? Whatever, yes, please, I’m interested.

                          > [Poettering] came across as an arrogant prick (can I say this on the forum?)

                          You just did. 🙂

                          > from the first line he wrote, which was – totally needless – insulting to the person who
                          > he reacted to.

                          I’d call that “vile and narrow minded.” I’d say “his loss,” but given the way systemd and pulseaudio have metastasized, it’s our loss.

                          > systemd seems to me a whoooole and a whoooole lot more complicated than this Runit system …

                          It sure does! Systemd reminds me of a micromanaging supervisor. Not only is such a supervisor annoying and tiring to work for, he makes his own job more difficult. On t’other hand, SysV and the others are like managers who trusts their employees and delegate everything, then sit back and watch the business go.

                          I’ve probably missed something, but when I first read about systemd some years back, it struck me as a solution in search of a problem. With init, when you need something else done, you write another daemon or utility. That’s worked fine for decades. (Hotplugged devices, for example.) Why expand and recompile an already massive micromanaging manager when you can just write a page or two of new code?

                          > [The Antix team] have delivered a first rate product without systemd, so it’s clearly not needed.

                          No argument there! My hat’s off to them too.

                          Without wanting to get too specific, I see in the systemd / alternatives battle some parallels to politics. A small, top-down authoritarian minority can often defeat a majority weakened by its factions. The way for that majority to fight back – and sometimes win – is to form one or more coalitions.

                          The systemd bludgeon seems to have splintered our old friend SysVinit into several other inits. A few examples – runit, openrc, dinit, s6. I’m far from an expert, but I wonder if there might be greater strength in a non-systemd coalition that pulled some or all of these together. Eh? What was that? Something about herding cats? :-\

                          #72675
                          Moderator
                          christophe

                            Apparently her shirt actually says “Saturday” — not a comment on her personality.

                            confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

                            #72660
                            Member
                            dirkd

                              Hi ahopping, Robin has clearly shown the way to go, I think. I found out that apparently something was wrong with the wifi configuration on my main (Antix21) machine. I would never have guessed. But seeing these question-marks in the arp report in stead of host names, I decided to redo the configuration with Ceni. Not totally painless, but now arp reports host names as it should. These hostnames are the same as on my router, partly automatically generated, some of them edited afterwards for easy identification. As such they are not always the ‘official’ hostnames, e.g. as indicated in a typical bash prompt. On my Antix machine:

                              $ sudo arp -a
                              [sudo] password for dd: 
                              PhilipsTV-WiFi.lan (192.168.1.31) at 80:30:49:42:43:87 [ether] on wlan0
                              mx21.lan (192.168.1.54) at 08:00:27:b6:d5:3a [ether] on wlan0
                              nasty (192.168.1.25) at 00:11:32:86:e7:88 [ether] on wlan0
                              mymodem.lan (192.168.1.1) at 30:91:8f:14:e3:aa [ether] on wlan0

                              ‘nasty’ doesn’t show an extension, because it’s included in my hosts file. The others aren’t and get a .lan extension.

                              $ sudo ping mx21.lan
                              PING mx21.lan (192.168.1.54) 56(84) bytes of data.
                              64 bytes from mx21.lan (192.168.1.54): icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.095 ms
                              64 bytes from mx21.lan (192.168.1.54): icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.073 ms
                              64 bytes from mx21.lan (192.168.1.54): icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.097 ms
                              64 bytes from mx21.lan (192.168.1.54): icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.178 ms

                              And as you can see, I can now ping my MX21 machine by name.

                              I haven’t yet tried connectshares in my current setup. I have no doubt it would work with IP’s, as it does with you. But I thought it was useless experimenting with hostnames as long as I saw problems while pinging. It’s a bit late now, but I’ll do some tests tomorrow and will let you know the outcome. I dabbled with connectshares long ago, it worked too, but I found it not entirely satisfactory. Since then I mount important shares using /etc/fstab. These shares are all folders on a NAS that I use mainly for streaming media. I find this method very easy and flexible.

                              Are you still interested in configuring fixed IP’s with Connman? I found out where the settings for that are hidden in Connman’s user interface this afternoon.

                              While we’re gossiping about Poettering: coincidentally I just came across one of his posts in a forum this week, for the first time ever. That one post was enough to feel a dislike for the guy. He came across as an arrogant prick (can I say this on the forum?) from the first line he wrote, which was – totally needless – insulting to the person who he reacted to. That doesn’t mean his software can’t be high quality. I lack the expertise to judge that. But systemd seems to me a whoooole and a whoooole lot more complicated than this Runit system that I never had heard of before and I’m using now for the first time. And I generally prefer the simple, even primitive if need be, to the complicated. Also, I trust the judgment of the Antix team in this matter. They have delivered a first rate product without systemd, so it’s clearly not needed.

                              #72550
                              Member
                              olsztyn

                                Grup Yorum is seen by Kemalists as a terrorist music group. Izmir marsi is a song that socialists in Turkey will certainly not listen or sing…

                                Thank you for the valuable info on Turkish politics, from which I agree that perhaps İzmir Marşı video is not the best example for Grup Yorum antiX political spirit. Not being Turkish I apparently missed the difference.

                                I greatly appreciate your analysis of the political situation in Turkey. It is a great lesson to me.
                                I suppose Fethullah Gülen, who lives relatively close to me, in Saylorsburg, Pennsylvania, represents one of the factions you outlined? No need to answer this – I read about Fethullah Gülen as politically opposed to Erdoğan…
                                Thanks and Regards…

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                                Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                                https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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                                olsztyn

                                  I see a post from 2013 in the PCLinux OS forum that said if you go to the boot menu in the BIOS and select hard drive with the usb flash drive attached, you will get a choice of the hard drive and the usb stick. If you move the usb drive above the hard drive then the usb drive will boot.

                                  Yes. This is exactly what I experienced on my desktop system, booting I described in my post #72437 above. Desktop BIOS sees USB stick as an HD, below existing HD in boot sequence. So I move the usb stick ‘HD’ up in boot priority above existing disk and it booted happily after…

                                  My experiment with desktops I brought back to experimental life was mostly to recall how to make them boot from USB removable drive, where such boot option might not be apparent in their BIOS and now I think most BIOSes had HD emulation, more common.
                                  I cannot help thinking that in Robin’s case there must be a simpler way to boot. So first would be to double check if USB stick is not being listed among HD drives…

                                  • This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by olsztyn.

                                  Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                                  https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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