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    einpoklum

      @skidoo : At the linked post (not the bug page) it says:

      I was about to report that upgrading to sys-apps/util-linux-2.36 cured the problem, as I’d upgraded and rebooted, and got no messages. However, see below, it’s still there.

      So that doesn’t solve the problem apparently. But we’re close!

      I could still try using a newer util-linux. What do you think? Shall I get one from a Debian repo? Or build my own? And – which parts of util-linux should I put where?

      • This reply was modified 2 years ago by einpoklum.
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        @Jing-Jo

        You should definitely try Opera! It runs the best of all I’ve tried so far! Apparently Opera handles the memory much better than Chromium or Firefox. The options in the settings are strong, there is a built-in add blocker. I am really surprised by Opera 🙂

        #59090

        In reply to: Asunder problem

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        roland

          The suggested chown has restored the permissions to what they should be however have produced another mystery that I do not understand. I installed 4 identical and brand new 500gb disk drives in this build. At first boot it became apparent they came already formatted as Vfat with names in chinese characters which I did not want. I therefore before the installer ran, removed these with Gparted and replaced them as follows:-

          drive 0 – sda1 for antiX, sda5 for swap, sda6 for $HOME and sda7 for data
          drive 1 – sdb1 for data, sdb2 for data
          drive 2 – sdc1 for data, sdc2 for data
          drive 3 – sdd1 for data, sdd2 for data

          Disk manager then produced a list of drive labels saying that no drives could be found corresponding to these labels, and inviting me to delete the labels if I wished and which was recommended, I did so.

          I took advantage of the facility in 19.3 to install antiX on a dedicated partition sda1, swap on sda5, $HOME on sda6 and data on the remaining volumes.

          But Gparted finds another partition and I do not know where it is located, 100mb and which Gparted cannot read, producing i-o errors. It is not visible on the maps of sda sdb sdc or sdd. It is causing no trouble except slows up the load of Gparted considerably and the warning messages have to be repeatedly cancelled, but strictly speaking I have no reason to run Gparted now the build is complete. However I would like to be rid of it after discovering the reason why it appears. I wonder if it has a real existence? I don’t suppose it could be the extended partition containing sda5 sda6 and sda7?

          I’m sorry this post is drifting away from the original Asunder topic which I feel is secondary to resolving this mystery. I hope I am not stretching the rule too much?

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          christophe

            Wow! Thanks for this, PPC.
            I’ve used smtube, and switched to the youtube.com as well.
            But I never right-clicked & used the options there. Playing with mpv works sooo well, as you say.

            And (so far, anyway), it seems that the (unskippable) youtube.com-interface ads, are in effect, skipped using the right-click context menu.
            So basically, IMO, it’s the best of everything, regarding viewing online videos on very old / 32-bit computers.

            confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

            #58756
            Anonymous

              The help texts for the F1 key option in the antiX boot menu

              I studied this a while back and did not arrive at a clear understanding.

              We can see, and can merge request changes to, the in-English F1 paginated help text(s) here:
              https://gitlab.com/antiX-Linux/antiX-Gfxboot/-/blob/master/Help/antiX/en.html

              The name (en.html) implies that other, localized, helptexts could be introduced.

              Apparently, the “gfxboot” program would be installed on a distro curator’s system.
              The curator would place sibling NN.html files in the project directory alongside en.html,
              then issue a command ala “gfxboot –add-languages NN OO PP”.
              IIRC, the output is a cpio archivefile, to be placed among the set of files which will be bundled within the initrd.gz

              To simulate what the result will look like, how it will render, under grub or under isolinux or under syslinux… a curator runs a separate utility program, “gfxtest”.

              The “maker” documentation provided for gfxboot is sparse, and the version of gfxboot used in antiX is very old (like, a decade or more, compared to the same-named “gfxboot” version maintained by opensuse). Even if translated NN.html files are submitted, I am not confident that the “old” version provides the necessary font resources to render a wide gamut of font glyphs. To wit: several of the opensuse changecommits across recent years have been toward providing expanded font coverage.

              the “press F1 for help” message is fixed and does not translate when we use F2 to select a new language

              I was not aware of that, and am quite surprised to read that detail. Now I’m left wondering whether the “gfxboot –add-languages NN OO PP” detail which I had found in the maker docs only merges the .po files.

              #58362

              In reply to: zzzFM file manager

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              Robin

                @skidoo
                Thanks for looking into this.

                If multiple names are copied, what is the likely paste destination? Apparently our ancestors agreed that the likely destination is a “list” of some sort, so… for the sake of convenience, the clipped content is conveyed as a multi-line, one-item-per-line snippet.

                I agree that it can be sometimes useful to have the quotings settings like this, but when composing a terminal command from the copied content it would be desirable to have a more consistent behaviour. To make an all-purpose tool from it, my idea is: add modifiers to copy command these three copy commands, following a logic like e.g.:

                click mouse button on context menu item
                -- without modifier = react as it always has been, with different quotation.
                -- ALT + left mousebutton = copy all items single quoted
                -- CTRL + left mousebutton = copy all items double quoted
                -- CTRL + ALT + left mousebutton = copy all items unquoted

                This is a vague idea only, so if this is technically to complicated to realise, leave it simply as it was before, I’m fine with it (having memorised meanwhile in which of the three I’ll have to add or remove quotes after pasting).

                The handler does not know, does not care, how many panes are currently set visible nor how many concurrent xxxyyFM windows are open.

                This is something user can take care of by himself, I believe. If at all, it would make sense only to look for this within active pane I’d believe, but even this is not really needed. I was misled in remembering about the true reason of the problem I had in mind. What led me to the Idea of avoiding duplicates was another behaviour of spaceFM I didn’t mention in my first post, which is the true reason for many identical tabs opened: When SpaceFM is reopened (given, “save tabs” was set), all tabs connected to items not present while opening (like USB-devices, network folders…) will display users “home” folder instead. So it can happen you face 10 or more tabs with home-folders, in between others… What really was needed consequently was not to detect whether a tab with identical content is opened by user (he can care himself), but to close tabs simply instead of changing to home folder all of them when original content is not present anymore. There is no advantage of having them, since you can’t retrieve from all the identical home tabs what path they did originally contain (back button doesn’t work on these to bring back original content, even if missing device is mounted again meanwhile).

                Right click contextMenu does present a choice between “Open” and “Open in Tab”.

                That’s true, but you have always to find it from menu entries instead of simply clicking.
                Possible convenient solution for this could be again: Mouse button modifiers.

                left mouse button on item opens everything as before, in new tab.
                alt + left mouse button = open item in active tab.

                This way we wouldn’t need any additional menu entries, nor we have to decide which option has more appeal. Both of these would be only one click without searching a context menu and selecting fitting entry.

                >>> Display of some values in statusline at bottom of the window is confusing:
                There is no blank between unit identifier (e.g. G,M,K) and number of files.
                So it reads “23 G free / 24 G1 / 13 (12,3 K)”. Took some time to understand what “G1” (or “M26”, “G141”)
                in here actually means… Guessed some kind of secret code first.
                ^———- I have now added a few extra spaces of padding between the portions of secret code. FWIW, I’ve never seen “G141” ~~ apparently that is passed to gettext and back, and is rendered with localized formatting. English statusbar shows “13 G free / 29 G” followed by two or 3 spaces separating that portion from the next piece of “secret code”.
                .

                Well, from what you stated I take this is probably an error in translation files simply, I’ll search for it. I have to admit I have translated back the word “free” in the string from German “frei” before posting here to make it easier to identify the item I described in board language. So, if a single space between unit identifier and number of items is present when script program uses its original English strings, you don’t need to fix anything here in the script program. Btw, don’t understand what you mean with “never seen G141”? Right now my statusline reads “799 G frei / 1,8 T347 Objekte /media/home/sdc1-usb-TOSHIBA_External/Backup…”, so the secret code is T347 today 😉

                When I tested, using a 9-year-old PC, after opening 26 (or so)tabs… a “click an end arrow and hold down” maneuver zips end-to-end across the tabs in less than a second. None of the directories in my test contained 1000+ items, though, and thumbnail view was disabled… so maybe there’s a conditionally-triggered problem that I haven’t yet discovered.

                Conditions might be: 20 years old instead of only 9, fast but single core 32 bit processor instead of multi core 64 bit, and limited amount of ram, which probably forces real re-reading of directories (or redrawing of display-content for each window passed on the way, can’t determine) and/or possibly reading from slow USB or network devices. What is the true reason I can’t detemine. But with 12 tabs only you’ll need a minute to get from one end to the other, waiting for displaying each single tab, while Processor powers up to 100% (@ 1,7 GHz).

                So long
                Robin

                P.S.: Wasn’t able to free up a stick for testing zzzFM 32bit itself, will make up for it as soon as possible.

                • This reply was modified 2 years ago by Robin. Reason: defined/corrected English wording

                Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

                #58350

                In reply to: zzzFM file manager

                Anonymous

                  @Robin
                  >>> “copy name”/“copy path“/“copy parent”) the three similar commands produce unequally formatted output
                  >>> Either all of them should get quoted, or none of them.

                  copy_parent
                  probably only exist as a menu item b/c we can optionally untick [hide] the pathbar for each of the 4 panels

                  For the other 2, the comparative “inconsistency” in their behavior makes sense (to me, at least) when copy is performed while MULTIPLE rows are selected.

                  If multiple fullpaths are copied, the likely paste destination is a script, or the commandline. So, they are necessarily conveyed all-on-a-single line (and are quote-enclosed to guard against the possibility of spaces occurring within filenames).

                  If multiple names are copied, what is the likely paste destination? Apparently our ancestors agreed that the likely destination is a “list” of some sort, so… for the sake of convenience, the clipped content is conveyed as a multi-line, one-item-per-line snippet.
                  .

                  >>> SpaceFM always opens a new tab when clicking a device from left side menu, even if there exists an identical tab already. [..] it shouldn’t default to use new tabs again and again.

                  Each time we left click on any of “Device” entries displayed in left-pane, the handler opens (displays) the Device’s toplevel content within a new tab added to the currently focused pane of the active xxxyyFM window. The handler does not know, does not care, how many panes are currently set visible nor how many concurrent xxxyyFM windows are open. Right click contextMenu does present a choice between “Open” and “Open in Tab”. Does one of these have more appeal? Which of these would be better suited for assignment as the left-click callback? (I have no firm opinion on this.) Maybe left click should “do nothing”, forcing the user to right-click and choose from various available actions? What text labels would be suitable for additional actions? Descriptive, but way too loooong: “open this device if not already open, and display it in pane4. Oh, and toggle pane4 visible if it isn’t already currently visible”. Workably short, but will defy translation: “OpenInP4andGoto”
                  .

                  >>> Display of some values in statusline at bottom of the window is confusing:
                  There is no blank between unit identifier (e.g. G,M,K) and number of files.
                  So it reads “23 G free / 24 G1 / 13 (12,3 K)”. Took some time to understand what “G1” (or “M26”, “G141”)
                  in here actually means… Guessed some kind of secret code first.
                  ^———- I have now added a few extra spaces of padding between the portions of secret code. FWIW, I’ve never seen “G141” ~~ apparently that is passed to gettext and back, and is rendered with localized formatting. English statusbar shows “13 G free / 29 G” followed by two or 3 spaces separating that portion from the next piece of “secret code”.
                  .

                  @anyone…
                  >>> movement of the tablist. [..]the arrows right and left to its ends [..] The way it is, spaceFM will open and display every single tab on your way to the hidden end of the tablist, which is rather time consuming.

                  Maybe the description will resonate with other testers. When I tested, using a 9-year-old PC, after opening 26 (or so)tabs… a “click an end arrow and hold down” maneuver zips end-to-end across the tabs in less than a second. None of the directories in my test contained 1000+ items, though, and thumbnail view was disabled… so maybe there’s a conditionally-triggered problem that I haven’t yet discovered.

                  #58269
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                  calciumsodium

                    Hi @skidoo,
                    I am using 5.10.27 kernel for both a2-runit and a2-full. As you suggested, I examined the config-5.10.27-antix.1-amd64-smp of each of the a2-runit and a2-full. Below, I am displaying any lines that contain the selinux keyword. As you can see, they are identical. Before using the selinux=0 command to disable the selinux, a2-runit would not display the selinux policy.33 error message, but a2-full would. With respect to the config-5.10.27-antix.1-amd64-smp of each of the a2-runit and a2-full systems, the selinux parameters appear to be identical.

                    For a2-runit: config-5.10.27-antix.1-amd64-smp

                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DISABLE=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DEVELOP=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_AVC_STATS=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_CHECKREQPROT_VALUE=0
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_SIDTAB_HASH_BITS=9
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_SID2STR_CACHE_SIZE=256

                    CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY_SELINUX=y

                    CONFIG_LSM=”yama,loadpin,safesetid,integrity,selinux,smack,tomoyo,apparmor”

                    For a2-runit: config-5.10.27-antix.1-amd64-smp

                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_BOOTPARAM=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DISABLE=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_DEVELOP=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_AVC_STATS=y
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_CHECKREQPROT_VALUE=0
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_SIDTAB_HASH_BITS=9
                    CONFIG_SECURITY_SELINUX_SID2STR_CACHE_SIZE=256

                    CONFIG_DEFAULT_SECURITY_SELINUX=y

                    CONFIG_LSM=”yama,loadpin,safesetid,integrity,selinux,smack,tomoyo,apparmor”

                    #58221

                    In reply to: zzzFM file manager

                    Anonymous

                      error occurs here:

                      Merging translations into zzzfm-folder-handler.desktop.
                      make[3]: *** No rule to make target ‘zzzfm-manual-en.html’, needed by ‘all-am’. Stop.
                      make[3]: Leaving directory ‘/<<PKGBUILDDIR>>/debian/build-gtk2/data’

                      Just after compiling the translations for zzzfm-folder-handler.desktop
                      Can you recommend what and where I need to look into to fix this so I can continue building?

                      @Xecure
                      FYI, using dpkg-buildpackage I too am currently encountering the same failed result after the source code has taken a round-trip to gitlab and back. Earlier, I had already been forced to take the extraordinary step of listing several files within a new (new to me) debian/not-installed file in order to achieve a successful build. Grrrr, those files are present and they do, in fact, wind up correctly installed…

                      Apparently I was too aggressive at performing “housecleaning” when transitioning the sourcepackage content from spacefm to zzzfm. Leano-meano, I removed many files which seemed to be “build artifacts” (regenerated during each build, if missing). Now I’m faced with figuring out which (aclocal?automake?) helper to call, and from which dh_override step withing the debian/rules file, to regenerate the missing prerequisite bit (which, I suspect, is src/Makefile.in). I’ll send a PM to let you know when I’ve fixed the problem.

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                      belf

                        Greetings to the AntiX community.
                        I am a new user in this forum, but some years ago I was registered with the same nickname in the old forum at Freeforums.org

                        The hard disk of my old laptop (Samsung NP300E5X-A04) broke and I, waiting for a new hard disk, installed AntiX with persistence on a USB memory stick.
                        Everything works fine except the WiFi connection. Connman sometimes sees wifi networks but a couple of minutes later it no longer sees them and only detects the Ethernet connection.
                        Previously, MX-Linux and Ubuntu – installed on the hdd – recognized wifi networks without difficulty, so my PC’s WiFi card is well recognized.
                        Both Ubuntu and MX (if I remember correctly) use the “network-manager” package.

                        Antix uses Connman and Ceni, which I know very little about and I apparently can’t get to work.
                        I read on the Antix website that Wicd is also present, but that in live use (from memory stick, as is my case) it is disabled. According to the instructions, when starting the system, I should select F4 and enable Wicd.
                        In the past I used Wicd with other distros on this PC and I had no difficulty: I could try it on Antix, but at boot the F4 key does not offer me a “Wicd” entry.

                        Please, can you help me or to activate Wicd or to make the wifi work with the other tools available?
                        Keep in mind that I need to change the type of network connection several times a day, switching from ethernet to wifi.

                        Thank you for your help. 🙂

                        #58029

                        In reply to: kernel updates

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                        Wallon

                          Hello,

                          I have upgraded my laptop from kernel 4.9.261 to new version 4.9.264 with the Antix Package Installer.
                          But in the Antix Package Installer, it’s an other number. It’s 4.9.0.264 for the new version.
                          Please find attached my screenshot.
                          Now, I have a bug when I start Antix. It starts automatically with the 4.9.261 kernel.

                          I have this in the Grup options;
                          * Antix 19.3 Linux 4.9.261-antix.1-amd64-smp
                          Antix 19.3 Linux 4.9.240-antix.1-amd64-smp
                          Antix 19.3 Linux 4.9.235-antix.1-amd64-smp
                          Antix 19.3 Linux 4.9.0.264-antix.1-amd64-smp

                          If I choose the kernel 4.9.0.264 at starting and if I restart the laptop, the kernel 4.9.261 comes back.
                          I would like to delete the “0” in the numbering and put the kernel 4.9.264 on top of the list but I don’t know how to do this.
                          Apparently, it’s the same problem with the kernel 4.4.0.264, there is also a “0” in the numbering.
                          Thank you in advance for your support.
                          Best regards,
                          Wallon

                          • This reply was modified 2 years ago by Wallon.
                          Member
                          FrecklesG

                            Thank you for your responses, I did try the Package Installer and found the following language pack options:

                              Spanish_LO_full

                            (*does nothing)

                              Spanish_LO_Latest_full

                            (this can work but it tries to install several more packages, besides it upgrades the whole LibreOffice suite)

                              Spanish_LO_Latest_main

                            (this can work but it tries to install several more packages, besides it upgrades the whole LibreOffice suite, although this would install less packages than previous option as it says it doesn’t contain the databases..?)

                              Spanish_LO_main (does nothing)

                            (*does nothing)

                            *When installing these options the package installer just says “Processed Finished!” but if you check, nothing was installed and the checkbox on package is unchecked. Apparently the package installer tries to install the 6.1.5 version of the packages but it doesn’t inform you when there’s a dependency error.

                            As per the deb packages, I couldn’t find any for 32bit on the LibreOffice site: https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/7.0.2.2/deb/

                            So I tried the solution recommended by @caprea
                            sudo apt install libreoffice-l10n-es/buster-backports

                            And voila! the installation of the language pack went smoothly!

                            Thank you ;)!

                            PS: is there as way to mark this post as resolved?

                            #57769
                            Member
                            rayluo

                              The issue now is when I go to logout > suspend, it doesn’t suspend but instead shuts the computer down apparently. When I come back later, it’s totally off.

                              Hi @MCreaves, I happen to encounter an issue which initially looks similar. When I suspend my “new” Thinkpad computer, it would apparently shutdown, and then even automatically reboot.

                              Interestingly, later I realized that symptom was not exactly “suspend shuts down (and reboot) computer”. With a hint from somewhere else, I turned off the “Automatically turn on via LAN” feature from BIOS. Then, suspending my computer would not cause auto reboot. It seems the suspend is indeed working, because this computer happens to have a breathing light effect in its power button.

                              But then, the real problem in my case is that I can not successfully wake up the computer. Once wake up, the computer goes into reboot.

                              I don’t really know much about suspend on Linux since it has pretty much always just worked.

                              Same here, the suspend behavior works fine on my another two older Thinkpads.

                              After a lot of research, it seems that the issue might be related to an outdated BIOS

                              How would you know it is caused by BIOS? I also want to learn how to troubleshoot this.

                              In my case, Lenovo did a good job on continuing releasing newer BIOS version several times a year. But I want to make sure I have to go that route. I never did any BIOS upgrade before.

                              PS: My computer.

                              
                              System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.235-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
                                         parameters: vga=0x0317 tz=America/Los_Angeles quiet splasht disable=lx zswap.enabled=1 
                                         Desktop: IceWM 1.9.1 dm: SLiM 1.3.6 
                                         Distro: antiX-19.3_x64-full Manolis Glezos 15 October 2020 
                                         base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
                              Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 2342CTO v: ThinkPad T430 serial: <filter> Chassis: 
                                         type: 10 serial: <filter> 
                                         Mobo: LENOVO model: 2342CTO v: Win8 STD DPK TPG serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: LENOVO 
                                         v: G1ET91WW (2.51 ) date: 01/09/2013 
                              Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 17.9 Wh condition: 18.3/47.5 Wh (39%) volts: 12.2/10.8 
                                         model: SANYO 45N1001 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
                              Memory:    RAM: total: 15.43 GiB used: 790.3 MiB (5.0%) 
                                         RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                              PCI Slots: Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                              CPU:       Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-3320M bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Ivy Bridge 
                                         family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 16 L2 cache: 3072 KiB 
                                         bogomips: 20752 
                                         Speed: 2602 MHz min/max: 1200/2600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2602 2: 2598 3: 2600 
                                         4: 2600 
                                         Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon avx bts clflush cmov constant_tsc 
                                         cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept erms est f16c flexpriority fpu fsgsbase 
                                         fxsr ht kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe 
                                         pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdrand rdtscp rep_good sep 
                                         smep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc 
                                         tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xsave xsaveopt xtopology xtpr 
                                         Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
                                         Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
                                         Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable 
                                         Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
                                         Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
                                         Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
                                         Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
                                         Type: srbds status: Vulnerable: No microcode 
                                         Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
                              Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA GF108M [NVS 5400M] vendor: Lenovo driver: nouveau v: kernel 
                                         bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0def 
                                         Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
                                         resolution: 1920x1200~60Hz 
                                         OpenGL: renderer: NVC1 v: 4.3 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes 
                              Audio:     Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
                                         driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1e20 
                                         Device-2: NVIDIA GF108 High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel 
                                         v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0bea 
                                         Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.235-antix.1-amd64-smp 
                              Network:   Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k 
                                         port: 6040 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:1502 
                                         IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                                         Device-2: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 5000 
                                         bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:0891 
                                         IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
                                         IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                                         IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
                                         IF-ID-1: docker0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                                         IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                                         WAN IP: <filter> 
                              Drives:    Local Storage: total: 169.48 GiB used: 4.62 GiB (2.7%) 
                                         ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Intel model: SSDSC2BW180A3L size: 167.68 GiB block size: 
                                         physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: LF1i scheme: GPT 
                                         ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB model: USB Flash Disk size: 1.80 GiB block size: 
                                         physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.0 scheme: MBR 
                                         Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: MATSHITA model: DVD-RAM UJ8C0 rev: SB01 
                                         dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw 
                                         Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram 
                                         state: running 
                              RAID:      Message: No RAID data was found. 
                              Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 12.29 GiB used: 51.7 MiB (0.4%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102 
                                         label: N/A uuid: N/A 
                                         ID-2: /live/boot-dev raw size: 1.75 GiB size: 1.71 GiB (97.95%) used: 1.21 GiB (70.8%) 
                                         fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 label: antiX193x64gvmcd 
                                         uuid: d7d21374-f867-4fc2-89f2-bf6755613faa 
                                         ID-3: /live/linux raw size: 1.14 GiB size: <root required> used: <root required> 
                                         fs: squashfs dev: /dev/loop0 label: N/A uuid: N/A 
                                         ID-4: /media/LIVE-UEFI raw size: 49.0 MiB size: 48.2 MiB (98.43%) used: 4.2 MiB (8.7%) 
                                         fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb2 label: LIVE-UEFI uuid: 2332-E684 
                                         ID-5: /media/antiX-Frugal raw size: 12.00 GiB size: 12.00 GiB (100.00%) 
                                         used: 3.35 GiB (27.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda8 label: antiX-Frugal 
                                         uuid: fa9586e9-344c-4ef0-98f4-6363a14e2c19 
                                         ID-6: swap-1 size: 20.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 10 (default 60) 
                                         cache pressure: 50 (default 100) dev: /dev/sda7 label: N/A 
                                         uuid: 761e7835-77ea-45bf-9e09-ea5f22263bbe 
                              Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 1000.0 MiB fs: ntfs label: WINRE_DRV uuid: 7E94A2F794A2B0D7 
                                         ID-2: /dev/sda2 size: 260.0 MiB fs: vfat label: SYSTEM_DRV uuid: 68A5-CC68 
                                         ID-3: /dev/sda3 size: 128.0 MiB fs: <root required> label: N/A uuid: N/A 
                                         ID-4: /dev/sda4 size: 122.54 GiB fs: ntfs label: N/A uuid: 5A8C599C8C59738B 
                                         ID-5: /dev/sda5 size: 450.0 MiB fs: ntfs label: N/A uuid: ECCA0B3DCA0B0414 
                                         ID-6: /dev/sda6 size: 11.34 GiB fs: ntfs label: Lenovo_Recovery uuid: CA369CCE369CBD3F 
                              USB:       Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
                                         Hub: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         chip ID: 8087:0024 
                                         Hub: 1-1.2:3 info: Standard Microsystems USB 2.0 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         chip ID: 0424:2514 
                                         Device-1: 1-1.2.1:5 info: Microsoft Optical Mouse with Tilt Wheel type: Mouse 
                                         driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s chip ID: 045e:00d1 
                                         Device-2: 1-1.2.2:6 info: Cooler Master type: Keyboard,HID driver: hid-generic,usbhid 
                                         interfaces: 3 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 2516:0059 
                                         Device-3: 1-1.2.4:7 info: MosArt type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 
                                         rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 062a:4102 
                                         Device-4: 1-1.6:4 info: Chicony Thinkpad T430 camera type: Video driver: uvcvideo 
                                         interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 04f2:b2db 
                                         Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
                                         Hub: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         chip ID: 8087:0024 
                                         Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
                                         Device-5: 3-2:2 info: N/A type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 
                                         speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 1845:0105 serial: <filter> 
                                         Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s 
                                         chip ID: 1d6b:0003 
                              Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 77.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 70 C 
                                         Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 4112 
                              Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
                                         1: deb http: //la.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main nonfree nosystemd
                                         Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list 
                                         1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free
                                         Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
                                         1: deb http: //ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
                                         Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
                                         1: deb http: //ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
                                         2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
                                         Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/docker.list 
                                         1: deb [arch=amd64] https: //download.docker.com/linux/debian buster stable
                                         Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list 
                                         1: deb [arch=amd64] http: //dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
                                         No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list 
                                         No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
                              Processes: CPU top: 5 
                                         1: cpu: 26.0% command: yad pid: 8719 mem: 29.6 MiB (0.1%) 
                                         2: cpu: 24.8% command: firefox-esr pid: 6370 mem: 227.5 MiB (1.4%) 
                                         3: cpu: 10.2% command: firefox-esr pid: 6196 mem: 372.8 MiB (2.3%) 
                                         4: cpu: 1.5% command: xorg pid: 5017 mem: 70.1 MiB (0.4%) 
                                         5: cpu: 0.2% command: dockerd pid: 4748 mem: 91.1 MiB (0.5%) 
                                         Memory top: 5 
                                         1: mem: 372.8 MiB (2.3%) command: firefox-esr pid: 6196 cpu: 10.2% 
                                         2: mem: 227.5 MiB (1.4%) command: firefox-esr pid: 6370 cpu: 24.8% 
                                         3: mem: 138.6 MiB (0.8%) command: firefox-esr pid: 6482 cpu: 0.2% 
                                         4: mem: 100.6 MiB (0.6%) command: firefox-esr pid: 6393 cpu: 0.1% 
                                         5: mem: 91.1 MiB (0.5%) command: dockerd pid: 4748 cpu: 0.2% 
                              Info:      Processes: 192 Uptime: 18m Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: 
                                         gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.0.3-release inxi: 3.0.36 
                              
                              #57744
                              Anonymous

                                $HOME/.local/share/fonts
                                $HOME/.local/share/themes
                                The XDG mechanism “knows” to look for these locations
                                but, AFAIK, the XDG mechanism is not equipped to similarly consult
                                $HOME/.local/share/i18n/locales/<subdirectories for each of the 479 supported known locales>

                                Regardless “how” installed (by means of standard apt installer, or other), your localization files containing custom content will never be “seen” (and used) unless installed “to” the expected location /usr/share/…

                                The chosen language packages get installed then by means of standard apt installer

                                Repeating, rephrasing, an earlier point because it apparently has not yet been understood.

                                During your envisioned “by means of standard apt installer” installation,
                                upon first request to “install” a /usr/share/ file which is already present and owned by another package,
                                in the absence of a dpkg-divert rule (or a dirty, ill-advised –force override) for that file
                                your entire transaction (installation of your package) will immediately fail.

                                #57701
                                Member
                                marcelocripe

                                  Hi FrecklesG,

                                  Welcome to the antiX Linux forum.

                                  If I have correctly understood the translation of your text into my language, you are experienced in several GNU/Linux distributions. Some of the distros you cited, I had contact with before I got here on antiX, I started researching distros in November 2019, before that I was a “prisoner” of Janelas. I was only able to find antiX and this esteemed forum in June 2020. I usually say that, it took me a long time to find the right distro, with the right forum and with the right people … You will see that there are good people here, always willing to help, people with great technical knowledge about antiX and with as much patience as their knowledge. I have great esteem for all the teachers and teachers who teach me a lot here and I will always be grateful to all of them.

                                  Having the hobby of researching and finding answers I spend most of my free time, but all these years I’ve just been an spectator and I thought it was time to join the community and to collaborate with something.

                                  There are many volunteer jobs that we can do to help others with the knowledge we have, whether it is (the knowledge) little or a lot.

                                  I, for example, do not know how to write or speak in English, I depend solely and exclusively on internet translators to be able to communicate with people here on the forum. And it’s not easy for me to be able to understand all the translations, sometimes I can understand the translations, other times I can’t. Even without having full command of the English language, I try to do my best at adaptation of translations for antiX for the Brazilian Portuguese language.

                                  Apparently, you should be fluent in the English language, if you want and can collaborate/help with the corrections of translations for antiX to Spanish language, you are welcome. Having antiX with as many translations as possible is something that allows/will allow more and more people across planet Earth to use this magnificent operating system. I believe that language is still a barrier that can be overcome with the volunteer work of people who want/can help others with the translation of operating systems and application programs or scripts.

                                  I recommend you to read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

                                  Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie and How-to install applications – 2020 version.

                                  When you start a topic or participate with a post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”.

                                  I will send my texts translated by the internet translator, I hope I can understand everything.

                                  marcelocripe
                                  (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

                                  ———-

                                  Olá FrecklesG,

                                  Seja bem-vindo ao fórum do antiX Linux.

                                  Se eu entendi corretamente a tradução do seu texto para o meu idioma, você é experiente em várias distribuições GNU/Linux. Algumas das distros que você citou, eu tive contato antes de chegar aqui no antiX, eu comecei a pesquisar distros em novembro de 2019, antes disso eu era um “prisioneiro” do Janelas. Eu só consegui encontrar o antiX e este estimável fórum em Junho de 2020. Eu costumo dizer que, eu demorei muito para eu encontrar a distro certa, com o fórum certo e com as pessoas certas… Você verá que aqui existem boas pessoas, sempre dispostas a ajudar, pessoas com grande conhecimento técnico sobre o antiX e com uma paciência tão grande quanto o seu conhecimento. Eu tenho grande estima a todos os professores e mestres que me ensinam muito aqui e sempre serei grato a todos eles.

                                  Having the hobby of researching and finding answers I spend most of my free time, but all these years I’ve just been an spectator and I thought it was time to join the community and to collaborate with something.

                                  Exitem muitos trabalhos voluntários que podemos fazer para ajudar as outras pessoas com o conhecimento que temos, seja ele (o conhecimento) pouco ou muito.

                                  Eu, por exemplo, não sei escrever ou falar em idioma inglês, eu dependo única e exclusivamente dos tradutores da internet para conseguir me comunicar com as pessoas daqui do fórum. E não é fácil para mim conseguir compreender todas as traduções, às vezes eu consigo compreender as traduções, outras vezes não. Mesmo sem ter total domínio com o idioma inglês, eu tento fazer o meu melhor na adaptação das traduções para o antiX para o idioma Português do Brasil.

                                  Ao que parece, você deve ser fluente no idioma inglês, se você quiser e puder colaborar/ajudar com as correções das traduções para do antiX para o idioma Espanhol, será bem-vindo. Ter o antiX com o maior número possível de traduções é algo que permite/permitirá com que mais e mais pessoas pelo planeta Terra possam utilizar este sistema operacional magnífico. Eu acredito que a língua ainda é um barreira que pode ser superada com o trabalho voluntários de pessoas que queiram/possam ajudar as outras com a tradução dos sistema operacionais e dos programas aplicativos ou scripts.

                                  Eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutorias criados pelo @PPC:

                                  Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie e How-to install applications – 2020 version.

                                  Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”.

                                  Eu enviarei os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet, eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo.

                                  marcelocripe
                                  (Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

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