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  • #33179

    In reply to: VPN

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    DaveW

      In my previous post, which disappeared, I copied terminal dialogue from a couple of attempts to connect to 2 different commercial VPN providers (trial subscriptions), directly from openvpn, using the ca.crt, client.cert, client.key, and Server.conf (or Server.ovpn) files provided. The process seems to interact with the servers, but in one case, ends with “authorization failed”, in the other “Initialization Sequence Completed.” But neither connects to the VPN.

      The last successful use of vpn was several months back, with AirVPN’s openvpn Eddie-ui. Since then, I have installed firejail and apparmor. I don’t know if these might interfere with openvpn (which I am not running inside firejail). My system is 32 bit, Antix 17, using ceni with wicd.

      Internet connection (wired or wireless) works fine, with no VPN. No doubt, I have some kind of misconfiguration. Where should I look?

      Thanks.

      NOTE: I submitted another post on 2-29-2020 at 4:17pm, which appears to be delayed somewhere. Watch for it… (It should appear after this one, in sequence.)

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      #33168

      In reply to: VPN

      Member
      DaveW

        Well, once upon a time, openvpn was working for me. But I have run into a snag of some kind.

        Since my last actual subscription to a VPN service, I installed Firejail and apparmor, with Firefox and Thunderbird running in separate jails.

        This may be unrelated to the openvpn problem. At some point, I also removed Network Manager, due to a conflict with wicd (when I disconnected, NM would reconnect a short time later). Am I correct that wicd is actually a gui for ceni (which is the actual n.m.)?

        In the past, I used a gui app from the VPN service provider (AirVPN, Eddie-ui). It worked very nicely. But needing a server in another location, I’ve been looking at other providers, using openvpn (with an app, or directly from openvpn). In either case, the initial handshakes seem to process normally, but the VPN tunnel is not established (in one case), or established but not properly directed to my browser. (I will attempt another post with details.)

        In the original post, I included long terminal dialogues from attempts to connect to 2 different providers (trial subscriptions). I have edited those out, since it makes the thread look formidable.

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        #33045

        In reply to: wine staging ?

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        dr-kart

          Debian Bug report logs – #819383 libasound2-plugin-equal: Cannot install 32-bit and 64-bit plugin simultaneously

          I had installed 64-bit ALSA equalizer plugin and
          configured ALSA to use it as the default sound output. However,
          32-bit programs (e.g. wine) failed to load it and complained
          about missing 32-bit plugin.
          An attempt to install 32-bit and 64-bit plugin at once complains
          that 32-bit one needs 32-bit caps and 64-bit one needs 64-bit
          caps…

          fix for ubuntu?
          https://launchpad.net/~vvladxx/+archive/ubuntu/alsaequal

          PPA description

          Fix Alsa’s error “Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_equal.so” in official Ubuntu/Debian package libasound2-plugin-equal. This PPA also contains 32-bit packages for 64-bit distro, that are required for Wine and other programs.

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          #32975
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          olsztyn

            Having done lots of testing to narrow down the source of this error I was able to pinpoint this error to Live USB Maker version change from 0.4.5 (synaptic) to 0.4.6. In Live USB log it is change from 2.41.16 to 2.41.17.
            I realized I had updated antiX (indiscriminately running antiX Updater) that apparently resulted the error in LUM cloning Live USB (encrypted). Therefore I went back to a saved previous version, before my careless update (trusting only good things may be brought about by update…) and confirmed:
            – Previous Version 2.41.16 of Live USB Maker does not experience this error and creates a clone of encrypted Live USB correctly. I just had to remember to fall back the kernel from 4.19 to 4.9 as without that fallback the resulting copy of Live USB fails booting with fatal dm-crypt error. This is a known fact and was extensively explained by BitJam some time ago along with challenge for LUM due to different versions of vmlinuz between antiX and startup files.
            – Not having an older version of antiX Live saved, so having just updated antiX, would have presented a challenge of finding a workaround in cloning a Live USB (encrypted).
            – One possibility considered was ISO snapshot. This did not work out and actually appears to have exposed another (possibly unrelated to LUM) issue: Although LUM does not complain and creates Live USB (encrypted) from ISO image and the resulting Live USB boots, it does so forgetting all original desktop and application settings and persistence options. Upon specifying persistence at boot time it fails on the step to copy existing files to homefs. This defeats the entire idea of workaround. This error happens both with old version of LUM (2.41.16) and new and new LUM, so perhaps it is not related to LUM but rather to ISO snapshot.

            To summarize two issues:
            – Live USB Maker 2.41.17 fails with error (encrypted clone from running system), while version 2.41.16 worked fine (with kernel 4.9, so kernel 4.19 requires fallback).
            – Live USB (encrypted) from ISO snapshot (regardless whether LUM version is old or new) does not remember any desktop and application settings and persistence files. Upon specifying persistence during boot it fails on the step to copy existing files to homefs.

            • This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by olsztyn.

            Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
            https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

            #32945
            Member
            PPC

              How to install applications/software on antiX (2020 version):

              You have recently found out about Linux or antiX in particular and you want to know how to install new software?

              As almost everything in Linux in general and antiX, there’s many ways to do most things:

              1- Use “Package Installer” ( available in: Menu – Control Centre – System tab):
              It’s like a small “antiX app store” – it has a list of over a hundred of the most installed software applications, divided into categories, searchable by application name (but not description) – almost any browser you can think of, WINE, Steam, Java, VLC, language packages, are all instalable from there, using a single click- the user does not have to interact with the many times dreaded terminal.
              As “Package Installer” windows states grayed out applications are already installed.
              – To install new applications simply left click the application you want (a check will appear in the box) and click the “Install” button and wait for the automated install process to finish (you do get to see a black terminal window, that disappears automatically once the install process finishes).
              Pros: easy to use, makes many general use applications instalable with a single click.
              Cons: newbies may find the interface a bit spartan, without icons or screen shots.

              2- Use Synaptic package manager ( also available, among other places, in: menu – Control Centre – System tab ):

              This is a very powerful application that allows you to install and manage any software application available from the Debian repositories- there are many tens of thousands available.
              – to search for a application to install click to magnifying glass icon on the upper right side of the window – you can search by application name or description (ex: you can search by “VLC” or by “media player”).
              – A small search window pops up – enter the application (package) you want to search there and press the magnifying glass icon available on that window (that small window closes automatically)
              – Wait a few moments for Synaptic to show you the results of the search- they are presented on the right hand side of the main window. If you have to, scroll down the results of your search, until you find the application(s) you want to install.
              – Right click the file(s) you want to install and select “Mark for installation”. (Note: You can install more than one application or package at the same time.) If that file needs to some other files in order to run ( has dependencies), Synaptic will tell you exactly what else needs to be installed and offers to install those files. If that happens, you have to explicitly click the button to “mark” those extra files for installation, in order to continue the install process.
              – Once you selected everything you want to install, click the “Gears” icon (Apply) on the top of Synaptic’s window. A confirmation pop up window will inform you exactly how many files will be downloaded, their size what the space they will use on your hard drive after installation. Click the “Apply” button and wait for the installation to finish.
              The new application icon appears automatically on the menu. The install process is finished when you see the application you installed is “checked” in Synaptic’s main window.
              Pros: many thousands of applications available. Does not require using the terminal at all. Installs probably anything you may need. Safe to user, does not in any way harm your system.
              Cons: can be a bit overwhelming to new users because it does not only show applications but their dependencies, and also fonts, drivers, etc. Does not automatically show any graphical previews of the applications ( no pretty pictures or videos to see, like in mobile app stores) BUT you can select your application and try using the “get screenshot” button to… well, try to get a screenshot of that application…

              3- Use cli-aptiX :

              If you are not afraid to use the keyboard and are not deterred by a general interface that basically remains unchanged for decades, open a terminal and run cli-aptix
              It’s a gem! It’s as friendly as a keyboard only application can be: it offers to automatically update the database of system files (perform a apt update), and then allows you to install applications, either terminal or GUI, has a huge curated list of applications, and allows the user to search by application name or description!
              Pros: ease of use, excellent list of curated software, allows user to search for and install applications from the Debian Repositories
              Cons: terminal only, no mouse input

              4- Use Appimages :

              It’s a “universal” application format this means it’s meant to run in almost any Linux system [there are some “universal” formats, but the most well known are Snaps, Flatpaks and Appimages].
              Simply download the file, make it executable and run it (example: Open SpaceFm, navigate to where your Appimage is, right click it – Properties – Permitions – Make sure that the executable field is checked. You only have to do this once. Then every time you want to run the application simply right click it choose the option to run it).
              No installation needed!
              There are on-line Appimages application stores – this makes it easy to search for what you want. they have descriptions of the applications and usually a screenshot.
              Good places to find Appimage applications:
              https://appimage.github.io/ (it has almost 1000 applications at this time)
              https://www.appimagehub.com/ (it has almost 700 applications at this time)
              Some software applications “vendors”, like the LibreOffice webpage, offer Appimage versions of their applications directly.
              Pros: one application, one file. If you want to remove the application, just delete the file. Can’t harm your system. The worst it can happen is that the application needs some dependency that’s not available and refuses to run.
              Cons: you have to manually make the Appimage file executable once you download it – this can be boring but it’s a security feature and only has to be done once for each Appimage file! Some Appimages do not offer to automatically get added to the menu. Some Appimages to no warn of upgrades. Can be hard to make files automatically run with a Appimage application (easily solvable file association problems)
              Appimages can be huge (because they pack almost everything they need to run) and a bit slower starting, particularly on low powered machines (because they have to be unpacked. If that’s a problem for you, you can extract any appimage and simply run the application directly).

              5- Use Flatpaks :

              It’s another universal application format.
              First you need to install the flatpak application itself, then you can install applications packaged in flatpak format. You download a tiny flatpak file for the application you want and then you have to install it – flatpak connects to the server and downloads the needed files.
              There are some on-line flatpak “application stores” too.
              Where to find flatpak applications:
              https://flathub.org/home
              Pros: on the user side, you only need to install a single file. Can’t harm your system, the worst that can happen is that the application can’t run.
              Cons: at first run flatpak needs to install many hundreds of Mb of dependencies, and only then you can install applications in flatpak format.
              there are some integration problems with flatpak applications (example: they sometimes don’t match with system decorations, etc).
              It can be a bit tricky knowing how to run apps that are not added to the menu.

              6- Manually install files:

              6.1- “.run” applications or compressed binaries (like “.tar.bz”):

              Some software is available as compressed binaries like “.tar.bz” – just uncompress it and run the executable file.
              You can get the most recent Mozilla FireFox version in this format.
              Pros: safe to use, can’t, as far as I know, break your system (but can perform, as any software, malicious actions).
              Easy and safe to uninstall- simple delete the uncompressed files!
              Cons: you have to manually setup menu entries and file associations.

              “.run” applications – almost the same as above, but automatically install everything the application need to run once you execute this kind of “installer”.
              Some device drivers come in this format.
              Cons: as far as I know this can break your system. Try to install only files you know are safe (this is a univerally good advice).

              6.2- .deb files :

              “.deb” files are the packages that Debian, and Debian based distros use to install software. They work almost like “.msi” files available for MS Windows.
              Synaptic and package installer simply automate the process of installing .deb files for you.
              Manually installing these files can harm your system and make it unable to run. Do not try to use Ubuntu PPA’s! Do not try to use software that needs systemd – those probably won’t work with antiX and can harm your System.
              Do you need a particular software unavailable in Package Installer or Synatic?- Ask in the forum, so the Development team tries to add it to antiX and wait for a reply.
              That said, you can install thousands of .deb files in antiX!
              Simply download the .deb file you want and, using your file manager, open the folder where you saved it. If you don’t already have a Terminal window open, go to the antiX Menu > Terminal. In the terminal type (or copy and paste) the following command (make sure to add a space after it and do not press enter!):

              sudo apt install

              …and then drag the .deb file to the terminal (the full path to your .deb file should appear, between single quotation marks, after “sudo apt install “). Press the enter key to begin the installation. If asked to, enter your password. If asked anything else, pressing enter again accepts the default answer (since the most asked question is if you want to continue or if you want to overwrite or keep old files, usually the default answer is “yes”).
              When the installation is finished you can close the terminal.

              Tip 1: You can also drag and drop multiple files to the terminal, to install more than one .deb package.

              Tip 2: If you have the package ft10-transformation installed in your system, it includes debinstaller, a GUI for the “apt install” command. You can right click any .deb package on zzzfm and select the option Open > Open With > “All apps” Tab – Debinstaller. You can also make this the default application to open .deb files, on a checkbox near the bottom of the window.

              P.S.- until version 21 came out, older versions included a GUI application to install .deb packages, called gdebi – but that application sometimes does not work correctly, so it’s safer to use the apt command directly in the terminal”

              Software from the Debian.org is as safe to install as it can be (as long as it does not depend on systemd). Open your web browser to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ and select the application you want – they are organized into categories.
              Note: If a application is in debian.org, probably it’s better to install the very same application from Synaptic- it takes care of everything for you and avoids any complication.
              debian.org is not a web site filled with eye candy, but it has many, many application screen shots available. click the name of the application you want. On the upper right corner you’ll probably see a clickable thumbnail of the application, if one is available.
              Pros: Sometimes there are .deb applications that run fine in antiX but are not officially available.
              Cons: you have to find the file you want and install it yourself. You may have to hunt down and manually install all the dependencies your application needs to run. This can often lead to what is know as “dependency hell”- you keep installing dependencies, that need other dependencies to run, that need other dependencies to run…
              Can break your system!!!

              7- Use Windows applications :

              Windows software does not run in Linux but, you can try using a compatibility layer to try to run it – it’s called WINE. There are thousands of windows applications that run in Linux, some even faster than they run in Windows itself!
              – Install Wine (for example, using Package Installer) and then click your windows executable file to try to run it via WINE.
              A more compatible, but slower option to legally run windows applications, is downloading a free MS Windows virtual machine and using it to run that particular option in antiX. This takes a lot of storage space and is slow. Low powered computers probably can’t even run a MS Windows virtual machine due to CPU and RAM constraints.

              8- Play Windows Steam Games :

              Last time I checked there were over 5000 games available in STEAM that run in Linux.
              – Install Steam (for example, using Package Installer) and activate Proton in your Steam client and just install any compatible game!
              Cons: well, if your computer is so low powered that you choose to install antiX to make it usable, there aren’t many Steam games that can run confortably in your system. If you have a new(ish) computer, you’r probably ok.

              9 – Compile applications from the source code :

              If you don’t even know what this means, don’t even try it.

              10 – Run old DOS applications:

              They run out of the box in antiX- DosBox has that covered- if you don’t know to use it, search on-line for help… It’s pretty intuitive.
              PROS: very nearly 100% compatibility rate.

              11- Run On-line applications :

              General rule of thumb- if a web application runs, it runs well in Linux (probably it’s even housed in a server that runs Linux too).
              You can use any Google service, Youtube, LYBR, Microsoft Office 365 on-line, Netflix, etc. It’s one of the of the benefits of having Web standards (you may need to run the web application in a particular browser, like for example- the browser needs to support DRM to enable some video streaming, like Netflix and HBO)…
              CONS: I believe that at the present time video acceleration still does not work in Linux browsers out of the box. If you have a low powered CPU, video decoding or 3d video can slow to a crawl, because your system isn’t using any GPU processing power).

              12- Run applications using emulators :

              On antiX you can play, for example PlayStation 2 disks using a emulator, or arcade games using MAME. There’s also a free Windows 95 emulator for Linux (with dubious legal status).

              Applications that DO NOT RUN in antiX:

              – Generally speaking Windows applications, and applications made for other OS’s (like MacOS, android, etc). A different subject is applications that have cross platform versions (i.e. have different versions, available for Windows and Linux – like LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and VLC )
              – applications packaged in a package format other than “.deb” or any universal application file format (there are more that appimage and flatpak)
              – Snaps are unable to be installed in antiX because they depend on systemd, that is not present in antiX (you may run MX-Linux and choose to use systemd at the boot process for these applications).

              To finish up:

              There are many on-line sites that you can use to search for Linux applications. My personal favourite is:
              https://www.pling.com/
              It has many appimages available, it offers a appimage of the store web application, very handy to use.
              Also App Outlet has a appimage “Store” available, that shows appimage and flatpak applications, that you can then download to your computer and use.

              [Note: the original post disappeared- this is it’s updated version]

              • This reply was modified 3 years, 2 months ago by anticapitalista.
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              #32924
              Member
              dirkd

                While experimenting with Antix19 today, I ran into unsuspected and baffling difficulties, which turned out to be caused by the live USB used for installation. Maybe I can help some others by telling about it on the forum.

                I have two separate small ssd’s in my computer. The first one has the Antix17 system I use on a daily basis, the other one an old Antix15 installation that hasn’t booted for some years now. I wiped the second one and installed Antix19 from a live USB. I can then experiment freely using dual boot, and make the switch permanently when I feel ready. Data and media files are on other HDD’s and can be shared without any problem by both installations. I have used this procedure before without experiencing any problems whatsoever.

                I ran into problems with Antix19 soon, and decided to start over at a later time. However I was unable to boot to my old Antix17 system, although I had been very careful to not let the installer touch its disk. To be precise, I could boot to a console, but was unable to start a graphical interface. I saw complaints about a ‘read-only file system’ and log files were not saved. The only thing I remembered about using the Antix17 disk from within the Antix19 system was a double click on the disk from within SpaceFM, causing it to mount the Antix17 file system (I was planning to copy some configuration files). Apparently this was a huge mistake: doing so gave the Antix17 filesystem a new UUID, thereby preventing it from mounting properly on booting Antix17.

                Here if my /etc/fstab file from Antix17:

                # /etc/fstab: static file system information
                #
                # Created by make-fstab on Sat Jul 11 08:52:37 EDT 2015

                # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump/pass>

                UUID=ab172d74-d0d9-45a1-8b51-2611c6a539df / ext4 defaults 1 1
                UUID=0841d91d-5dcc-4fc1-99ee-11257a2b9855 swap swap defaults 0 0
                UUID=ab172d74-d0d9-45a1-8b51-2611c6a539df /mnt/sys/Antix-15 ext4 auto,exec,users,rw 0 0

                /dev/sdc3 /mnt/data ntfs-3g auto,exec,users,rw 0 0
                /dev/sdc2 /mnt/apps ntfs-3g auto,exec,users,rw 0 0
                UUID=7E701FE8701FA5C5 /mnt/sys/Windows ntfs-3g auto,exec,users,rw 0 0
                UUID=68c02545-221d-49bd-ba85-0045c670828f /mnt/media ext4 auto,exec,users,rw 0 0

                #shares op nasty
                //nasty/media /mnt/nasty/media cifs username=dd,password=xxxxx,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
                //nasty/data /mnt/nasty/data cifs username=dd,password=xxxxx,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0
                //nasty/web /mnt/nasty/Web cifs username=dd,password=xxxxx,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0

                /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom iso9660 noauto,exec,users,ro 0 0
                /dev/cdrw /media/cdrw iso9660 noauto,exec,users,rw 0 0
                /dev/dvd /media/dvd udf noauto,exec,users,ro 0 0
                /dev/dvdrw /media/dvdrw udf noauto,exec,users,rw 0 0
                /dev/sr0 /media/sr0 auto noauto,exec,users,ro 0 0

                And this is the result of running blkid:

                /dev/sda1: LABEL=”media2″ UUID=”68c02545-221d-49bd-ba85-0045c670828f” TYPE=”ext4″ PARTUUID=”304f4518-01″
                /dev/sdb1: LABEL=”rootantiX17.1″ UUID=”9e72bdbb-b308-4d0c-adf8-95bf7cca9544″ TYPE=”ext4″ PARTUUID=”8e783a29-01″
                /dev/sdc1: LABEL=”Sys” UUID=”7E701FE8701FA5C5″ TYPE=”ntfs” PARTUUID=”00000001-01″
                /dev/sdc2: LABEL=”Apps” UUID=”4E42BDA2399B3504″ TYPE=”ntfs” PTTYPE=”dos” PARTUUID=”00000001-02″
                /dev/sdc3: LABEL=”Data” UUID=”042F889220B256CB” TYPE=”ntfs” PTTYPE=”dos” PARTUUID=”00000001-03″
                /dev/sde1: LABEL=”antiX19″ UUID=”39bdad5f-0949-43eb-bbce-713ddd636655″ TYPE=”ext4″ PARTUUID=”7378c34d-01″
                /dev/sde2: LABEL=”swap” UUID=”0841d91d-5dcc-4fc1-99ee-11257a2b9855″ TYPE=”swap” PARTUUID=”7378c34d-02″

                As you can see, both / (the Antix17 root partition) and /mnt/sys/Antix-15 (the old Antix15 root partition) have the same UUID in fstab (which still baffles me, as to how this is possible) which is not actually assigned to any partition, according to the blkid output.

                I solved the problem by booting into the rather shaky new Antix19 system and from there editing the Antix17 /etc/fstab so that it contained the correct UUID’s. The next reboot into Antix17 was 100% normal again.

                #32908
                Member
                PPC

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                  How to install applications/software on antiX (2020 version):
                  EDITED. Gdebi is not included in antiX 21 and not a recommendation.

                  You have recently found out about Linux or antiX in particular and you want to know how to install new software?

                  As almost everything in Linux in general and antiX in particular, there’s many ways to do stuff.

                  1- Use “Package Installer” ( available in: Menu – Control Centre – System tab):

                  It’s like a small “antiX app store” – it has a list of over a hundred of the most installed software applications, divided into categories, searchable by application name (but not discription) – almost any browser you can think of, WINE, Steam, Java, VLC, language packages, are all installable from there, using a single click- the user usually does not have to interact with the terminal. A terminal black window pops up and closes automatically after the install process finishes. Usually if there’s any kind of question the user has to answer during the install process, simply press one of the keys the window shows in order to proceed (the “enter” key usually accepts the default answer).
                  Note: During some particular installations (like Virtualbox) the user needs to accept some kind of License Agreement that appears on that window- use the “tab” key highlights the correct option and accept it by pressing the “enter” key)
                  Pros: easy to use, makes many general use applications installable with a single click.
                  Cons: newbies may find the interface a bit spartan, without icons or screen shots.

                  2- Use Synaptic package manager ( also available, among other places, in: menu – Control Centre – System tab ):

                  This is a very powerful application that allows you to install and manage any software application available from the Debian repositories- there are many tens of thousands available.
                  A repository is a collection of software packages for a Linux distribution. antiX is based in Debian, so it uses the Debian repositories and it’s own antiX repository.
                  – To search for a application click to magnifying glass icon on the upper right side of the window (you can search for the application name or it’s description -ex: “vlc” or “media player”).
                  – A small search window pops up – enter the application (package) you want to search there and press the magnifying glass icon available on that window
                  – Wait a few moments for Synaptic to show you the results of the search- they are presented on the right hand side of the main window. If you have to, scroll down the results of your search, until you find the application(s) you want to install- you can install more than one application or package at the same time.
                  – Right click the file(s) you want to install and select “Mark for installation”. If that file needs to some other files in order to run, Synaptic will tell you exactly what else needs to be installed and offers to install those files. If that happens you have to explicitly click the “mark” those extra files in order to continue the install process.
                  – Once you selected everything you want to install, click the “Gears” icon (Apply) on the top of Synaptic’s window. A confirmation pop up window will inform you exactly how many files will be downloaded, their size what the space they will use on your hard drive after installation. Click the “Apply” button and wait for the installation to finish. The new application appear automatically on the menu.

                  Pros: many thousands of applications available. Does not require using the terminal at all. Installs probably anything you may need. Safe to user, does not in any way harm your system.
                  Cons: can be a bit overwhelming to new users because it does not only show applications but their dependencies, and also fonts, drivers, etc. Does not automatically show any graphical previews of the applications ( no pretty pictures or videos to see, like in mobile app stores) BUT you can select your application and try using the “get screenshot” button to… well, try to get a screenshot of that application…

                  3- Use cli-aptiX :

                  If you are not afraid to use the keyboard and are not deterred by a general interface that basicaly remains unchaged for decades, open a terminal and run cli-aptiX
                  It’s a gem! It’s as friendly as a keyboard only application can be: it offers to automaticaly update the database of system files (perform a apt update), and then allows you to install applications, either terminal or GUI, has a huge curated list of applications, and allows the user to search by application name or description!
                  Pros: ease of use, excellent list of curated software, allows user to search for and install applications from the Debian Repositories
                  Cons: terminal only, no mouse input

                  4- Use Appimages :

                  It’s a “universal” application format this means it’s meant to run in almost any Linux system [there are some “universal” formats, but the most well known are Snaps, Flatpaks and Appimages].
                  Simply download the file, make it executable and run it (example: Open SpaceFm, navigate to where your Appimage is, right click it – Properties – Permissions – Make sure that the executable field is checked. You only have to do this once. Then every time you want to run the application simply right click it choose the option to run it).
                  No installation needed!
                  There are on-line Appimages application stores – this makes it easy to search for what you want. they have descriptions of the applications and usually a screenshot.
                  Good places to find Appimage applications:
                  https://appimage.github.io/ (it has almost 1000 applications at this time)
                  https://www.appimagehub.com/ (it has almost 700 applications at this time)
                  Some software applications “vendors”, like the LibreOffice webpage, offer Appimage versions of their applications directly.
                  Pros: one application, one file. If you want to remove the application, just delete the file. Can’t harm your system. The worst it can happen is that the application needs some dependency that’s not available and refuses to run.
                  Cons: you have to manually make the Appimage file executable once you download it – this can be boring but it’s a security feature and only has to be done once for each Appimage file! Some Appimages do not offer to automatically get added to the menu. Some Appimages to no warn of upgrades. Can be hard to make files automatically run with a Appimage application (easily solvable file association problems)
                  Appimages can be huge (because they pack almost everything they need to run) and a bit slower starting, particularly on low powered machines (because they have to be unpacked. If that’s a problem for you, you can extract any Appimage and simply run the application directly).

                  5- Use Flatpaks :

                  It’s another universal application format.
                  First you need to install the flatpak application itself, then you can install applications packaged in flatpak format. If you download a flatpak file for the application you want, it’s a tiny file. You then can run flatpak to install it – it connects to the server and downloads the needed files.
                  There are some on-line flatpak “application stores” too.
                  Where to find flatpak applications:
                  https://flathub.org/home
                  Pros: on the user side, you only need to install a single file. Can’t harm your system, the worst that can happen is that the application can’t run.
                  Cons: at first run flatpak needs to install many hundreds of Mb of dependencies, and only then you can install applications in flatpak format.
                  there are some integration problems with flatpak applications (example: they sometimes don’t match with system decorations, etc).
                  It can be a bit tricky knowing how to run apps that are not added to the menu.

                  6- Manually install files :

                  6.1- “.run” applications or compressed binaries (like “.tar.bz”):

                  Some software is available as compressed binaries like “.tar.bz” – just uncompress it and run the executable file.
                  You can get the most recent Mozilla FireFox version in this format.
                  Pros: safe to use, can’t, as far as I know, break your system (but can perform, as any software, malicious actions).
                  Easy and safe to uninstall- simple delete the uncompressed files!
                  Cons: you have to manually setup menu entries and file associations.

                  “.run” applications – almost the same as above, but automaticaly install everything the application need to run once you execute this kind of “installer”.
                  Some device drivers come in this format.
                  Cons: as far as I know this can break your system. Try to install only files you know are safe (this is a univerally good advice).

                  6.2- .deb files :

                  “.deb” files are the packages that Debian, and Debian based distros use to install software. They work almost like “.msi” files available for MS Windows.
                  Synaptic and package installer simply automate the process of installing .deb files for you.
                  Manually installing these files can harm your system and make it unable to run. Do not try to use Ubuntu PPA’s! Do not try to use software that needs systemd – those probably won’t work with antiX and can harm your System.
                  Do you need a particular software unavailable in Package Installer or Synatic?- Ask in the forum, so the Development team tries to add it to antiX and wait for a reply.
                  That said, you can install thousands of .deb files in antiX! Simply download the file you want and open it in a file manager- a application called gdebi will try to install that file, or you can install it using the terminal.”

                  “Simply download the .deb file you want and, using your file manager, open the folder where you saved it. If you don’t already have a Terminal window open, go to the antiX Menu > Terminal. In the terminal type (or copy and paste) the following command (make sure to add a space after it and do not press enter!):

                  sudo apt install

                  …and then drag the .deb file to the terminal (the full path to your .deb file should appear, between single quotation marks, after “sudo apt install “). Press the enter key to begin the installation. If asked to, enter your password. If asked anything else, pressing enter again accepts the default answer (since the most asked question is if you want to continue or if you want to overwrite or keep old files, usually the default answer is “yes”).
                  When the installation is finished you can close the terminal.

                  Tip 1: You can also drag and drop multiple files to the terminal, to install more than one .deb package.

                  Tip 2: If you have the package ft10-transformation installed in your system, it includes debinstaller, a GUI for the “apt install” command. You can right click any .deb package on zzzfm and select the option Open > Open With > “All apps” Tab – Debinstaller. You can also make this the default application to open .deb files, on a checkbox near the bottom of the window.

                  P.S.- until version 21 came out, older versions included a GUI application to install .deb packages, called gdebi – but that application sometimes does not work correctly, so it’s safer to use the apt command directly in the terminal”

                  Software from the Debian.org is as safe to install as it can be (as long as it does not depend on systemd). Open your web browser to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ and select the application you want – they are organized into categories.
                  Note: If a application is in debian.org, probably it’s better to install the very same application from Synaptic- it takes care of everything for you and avoids any complication.
                  Pros: debian.org is not a web site filled with eye candy, but it has many, many application screen shots availble. click the name of the application you want. On the upper right corner you’ll probably see a clickable thumbnail of the application, if one is available.
                  Sometimes there are .deb applications that run fine in antiX but are not officially available.
                  Cons: you have to find the file you want and install it yourself. You may have to hunt down and manually install all the dependencies your application needs to run. This can often lead to what is know as “dependency hell”- you keep installing dependencies, that need other dependencies to run, that need other depencies to run…
                  Can break your system!!!

                  7- Use Windows applications :

                  Windows software does not run in Linux but, you can try using a compatibly layer to try to run it – it’s called WINE, and it’s a handy application to always have installed. There are thousands of windows applications that run in Wine, some even faster than they run in Windows itself!
                  A more compatible, but slower option to legally run windows applications, is downloading a free MS Windows virtual machine and using it to run that particular option in antiX. This takes a lot of storage space and is slow. Low powered computers probably can’t even run a MS Windows virtual machine due to CPU and RAM constraints.

                  8- Play Windows Steam Games :

                  Last time I checked https://www.protondb.com/ there were about 6500 games available in STEAM that run in Linux. Activate Proton in your Steam client and just install any compatible game!
                  Cons: If your computer is so low powered that you choose to install antiX to make it usable, there aren’t many Steam games that can run comfortably in your system. If you have a new(ish) computer, you’re probably ok.

                  9 – Compile applications from the source code :

                  If you don’t even know what this means, don’t even try it.

                  10 – Run old DOS applications :

                  They run out of the box in antiX- DosBox has that covered- if you don’t know to use it, search on-line for help… It’s pretty intuitive.
                  PROS: very nearly 100% compatibility rate.

                  11- Run On-line applications :

                  General rule of thumb- if a web application runs, it runs well in Linux (probably it’s even housed in a server that runs Linux too).
                  You can use any Google service, Youtube, LYBR, Microsoft Office 365 on-line, Netflix, etc. It’s one of the of the benefits of having Web standards (you may need to run the web application in a particular browser, like for example- the browser needs to support DRM to enable some video streaming, like Netflix and HBO)…
                  CONS: I believe that at the present time video acceleration still does not work in Linux browsers out of the box. If you have a low powered CPU, video decoding or 3d video can slow to a crawl, because your system isn’t using any GPU processing power).

                  12- Run applications using emulators :

                  On antiX you can play, for example PlayStation 2 disks using a emulator. There’s also a free Windows 95 emulator for Linux (with dubious legal status).

                  Applications that DO NOT RUN in antiX:

                  – Generally speaking Windows applications or applications made for other OS’s (like MacOS, android, etc). A different subject is applications that have cross platform versions (i.e. have different versions, available for Windows and Linux – like Google Chrome/Chromium, LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and VLC )
                  – Applications packaged in a package format other than “.deb” or any universal application file format (there are more than appimage and flatpak)
                  – Snaps are unable to be installed in antiX because they depend on systemd, that is not present in antiX (you may run MX-Linux and choose to use systemd at the boot process for these applications).

                  To finish up:

                  There are many on-line sites that you can use to search for Linux applications. My personal favorite is:
                  https://www.pling.com/
                  It has many Appimages available, it offers a Appimage of the store web application, very handy to use.
                  Also App Outlet has a Appimage “Store” available, that shows Appimage and flatpak applications, that you can then download to your computer and use.

                  This “how to” is meant for newbies. More advanced users can, of course install software using the terminal ( the “apt install” command)

                  P.

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                  Member
                  PPC

                    How to install applications/software on antiX (2020 version):

                    You have recently found out about Linux or antiX in particular and you want to know how to install new software?

                    As almost everything in Linux in general and antiX in particular, there’s many ways to do stuff.

                    1- Use “Package Installer” ( Menu – Control Centre – System tab):
                    It’s like a small “antiX app store” – it has a list of over a hundred of the most installed software applications, divided into categories, searchable by application name (but not discription) – almost any browser you can think of, WINE, Steam, Java, VLC, language packages, are all instalable from there, using a single click- the user does not even get to see the many times dread terminal.

                    2- Use Synaptic package manager ( also available, among other places, in menu – Control Centre – System tab ):
                    Ok, this is a very powerfull application that allows you to install and manage any software application available from the Debian repositories- there are many tens of thousands available.
                    Use the search field on the upper right corner of the window to find the application you want- you can search by application name or description (ex: you can search by “VLC” or by “media player”). Select the application you want to install, Synaptic also installs any dependencies (files the application needs to run) and informs you of every thing it’s going to happen: how many files will be downloaded, the total download size, how much disk space it’s going to take). Confirm you want to install the selected files and wait a bit. The applications appear on the menu, ready to use, after the install process finishes.
                    Pros: many thousands of applications available. Does not require using the terminal at all. Installs probably anything you may need. Safe to user, does not in any way harm your system.
                    Cons: can be a bit overwellming to new users because it does not only show applications but their dependencies, and also fonts, drivers, etc. Does not automatically show any graphical previews of the applications ( no pretty pictures or videos to see, like, in mobile app stores) BUT you can select your application and try using the “get screenshot” button to… well, try to get a screenshot of that application…

                    3- Use cli-aptiX :
                    If you are not afraid to use the keyboard and are not detered by a interface that basicaly remains unchaged for decades, open a terminal and run cli-aptiX
                    It’s a gem! It’s as friendly as a keyboard only application can be: it offers to automaticaly update the database of system files (perform a apt update), and then allows you to install applications, for terminal or GUI, has a huge curated list of applications, and allows the user to search by application name or description!

                    4- Use Appimages :
                    It’s a universal application format- it’s meant to run in almost any Linux system- no installation needed!
                    There are on-line appimages application stores – this makes it easy to search for what you want. they have descriptions of the applications and usually a screenshot.
                    Good places to find appimage applications:
                    https://appimage.github.io/ (it has almost 1000 applications at this time)
                    https://www.appimagehub.com/ (it has almost 700 applications at this time)
                    Some software applications, like LibreOffice offer Appimage versions.

                    Pros: one application, one file. If you want to remove the application, just delete the file. Can’t harm your system. The worst it can happen is that the application needs some dependecy that’s not availbale and refuses to run.
                    Cons: you have to manually make it executable once you download the appimage – this can be boring but it’s a security feature and only has to be done once for each appimage file! Some appimages do not offer to automaticaly get added to the menu. Some appimages to no warn of upgrades. Can be hard to make files automaticaly run with a appimage application (easily solvable file association problems)
                    Appimages can be huge (because they pack almost everything they need to run) and a bit slower starting, particulary on low powered machines (because they have to be unpacked).

                    5- Use Flatpak :
                    It’s another universal application format.
                    First you need to install the flatpak application itself, then you can install applications packaged in flatpak format. You download the flatpak file for the application you want and then you have to install it.
                    There are some on-line flatpak application stores too.
                    Where to find flatpak applications:
                    https://flathub.org/home
                    Pros: on the user side, you only need to install a single file. Can’t harm your system, the worst that can happen is that the application can’t run.
                    Cons: at first flatpak needs to install many hundreds of Mb of dependencies, and only then you can install applications in flatpak format.
                    there are some integration problems with flatpak applications (exemple: they sometimes don’t match with system decorations, etc).

                    6- Manually install files:

                    6.1- .run applications or compressed binaries (.tar.bz):

                    Some software is available as compressed binaries like .tar.bz – just uncompress it and run the executable file.
                    You can get the most recent Mozilla FireFox version in this format.
                    Pros: safe to use, can’t, as far as I know, break your system (but can perform, as any software, malicious actions).
                    Easy and safe to uninstall- simple delete the uncompressed files!
                    Cons: you have to manually setup menu entries and file associations.

                    .run applications – almost the same as above, but automaticaly install everything.
                    Some device drivers come in this format.
                    Cons: as far as I know this can break your system. Try to install only files you know are safe (this is a univerally good advice).

                    6.2- .deb files :

                    “.deb” files are the packages that Debian, and Debian based distros use to install software. They work almost like “.msi” files available for MS Windows.
                    Synaptic and package installer simply automate the process of installing .deb files for you.
                    Manually installing these files can harm your system and make it unable to run. Do not try to use Ubuntu PPA’s! Do not try to use software that needs systemd – those probably won’t work with antiX and can harm your System.
                    Do you need a particular software unavailable in Packahe Installer or Synatic?- Ask in the forum, so the Development team tries to add it to antiX and wait for a reply.
                    That said, you can install thousands of .deb files in antiX! Simply download the file you want and open it in a file manager- a application called gdebi will try to install that file, or you can install it using the terminal.
                    Software from the Debian.org is as safe to install as it can be (as long as it does not depend on systemd). Open your web browser to https://packages.debian.org/stable/ and select the application you want – they are organized into categories.
                    Note: If a application is in debian.org, probably it’s better to install the very same application from Synaptic- it takes care of everything for you and avoids any complication.
                    Pros: debian.org is not a web site filled with eye candy, but it has many, many application screen shots availble. click the name of the application you want. On the upper right corner you’ll probably see a clickable thumbnail of the application, if one is available.
                    Sometimes there are .deb applications that run fine in antiX but are not officially available.
                    Cons: you have to find the file you want and install it yourself. You may have to hunt down and manually install all the dependencies your application needs to run. This can often lead to what is know as “dependency hell”- you keep installing dependencies, that need other depencies to run, that need other depencies to run…
                    Can break your system!!!

                    7- Windows applications :

                    Windows software does not run in Linux but, you can try using a compatibily layer to try to run it – it’s called WINE. There are thousands of windows applications that run in Linux, some even faster than they run in Windows it self!
                    A slower option to legally run windows applications is downloading a windows virtual machine and using it to run that particular option in antiX. This takes a lot of storage space and is slow. Low powered computers probably can’t even run a MS Windows virtual machine.

                    8- Windows Games :

                    There are over 5000 games available in STEAM that run in Linux. Activate Proton in your Steam client and just install any compatible game!
                    Cons: well, if your computer is so low powered that you choose to install antiX to make it usable, there aren’t many Steam games that can run confartably in your system. If you have a new(ish) computer, your’s probably safe

                    9- Old DOS applications:

                    They run out of the box in antiX- DosBox has that covered- if you don’t know to use it, search on-line for help… It’s pretty intuitive.
                    PROS: very nearly 100% compatibility rate.

                    10- On-line applications :

                    General rule of thumb- if a web application runs, it runs well in Linux (probably it’s even housed in a server that runs Linux too).
                    You can use any Google service, Youtube, LYBR, Microsoft Office 365 on-line, Netflix, etc. It’s one of the of the benificts of having Web standarts (you may need to run the web application in a particular browser, like for example- the browser needs to support DRM to enable some video streamming, like Netflix and HBO)…
                    CONS: I believe that at the present time video acceleration still does not work in Linux browsers out of the box. If you have a low powered CPU, video decoding or 3d video can slow to a crawl, because your system isn’t using any GPU processing power).

                    What applications do not run in antiX:

                    -Generally speaking Windows applications, and applications made for other OS’s (like MacOS, android, etc).
                    – applications packaged in a package format other than “.deb” or any universal application file format (there are more that appimage and flatpak)
                    – Snaps are unable to be installed in antiX because they depend on systemd, that is not present in antiX (you may run MX-Linux and choose to use systemd at the boot process for these applications).

                    To finish up:
                    There are many on-line sites that you can use to search for Linux applications. My personal favourite is:
                    https://www.pling.com/
                    it has many appimages available, it offers a appimage of the store web application, very handy to use.
                    Also App Outlet has a appimage Store available, that shows appimage and flatpak applications.

                    #32854
                    Member
                    stevesr0

                      N.B. I may have solved this – after all the below, I opened a root window with spaceFM file manager and was able to delete the lock file. After this, I ran the double apt command (sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade” and it apparently completed normally (no files needed to be upgraded, updated or removed).

                      HOWEVER, I am still puzzled by the apparent failure of sudo to be recognized as root. Perhaps the are you root message is generated by the lock; but, why isn’t that error message ALWAYS generated.

                      The problem:
                      I have never had a problem running “sudo apt update” or “sudo apt-get update”. However, When I tried out use anticapitalista’s suggested “sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade” or “sudo apt update && apt full-upgrade”, I get the following two error messages:
                      E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock – open (13: Permission denied)
                      E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?

                      $ sudo apt update && apt -s full-upgrade
                      Hit:1 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease
                      Hit:2 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch-updates InRelease
                      Hit:3 http://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/mxlinux/antix/stretch stretch InRelease
                      Ign:4 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
                      Hit:5 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stretch Release
                      Reading package lists… Done
                      Building dependency tree
                      Reading state information… Done
                      All packages are up to date.
                      NOTE: This is only a simulation!
                      apt needs root privileges for real execution.
                      Keep also in mind that locking is deactivated,
                      so don’t depend on the relevance to the real current situation!
                      Reading package lists… Done
                      Building dependency tree
                      Reading state information… Done
                      Calculating upgrade… Done
                      0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.

                      I have not previously had a problem running sudo as a root substitute, and I didn’t find an answer via online search as to why the “&& sudo apt-get dist-upgrade” or “&& sudo apt full-upgrade” doesn’t work.
                      Running the second command as a simulation works because the lock is deactivated.

                      So I am not sure if this is a “lock” issue or a “root vs sudo” issue. The one thing I haven’t tried yet is to login as root and then try this… But if that worked it wouldn’t tell me why sudo doesn’t work.

                      Even if that works, I am puzzled that I would have to use it for this combination of commands.

                      thanks for any enlightenment.

                      stevesr0

                      #32849
                      Anonymous

                        You could try building it portable:
                        https://github.com/obsproject/obs-studio/wiki/Install-Instructions#linux-portable-mode-all-distros

                        Other options:

                        In OBS website, right now the official current version for linux v. 24.0.3 (and 24.06 for Mac)
                        Going to debian repo:
                        https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=obs-studio

                        Source Package obs-studio

                        stretch (misc): 0.15.4+dfsg1-1
                        Binary packages: libobs-dev, libobs0, obs-plugins, obs-studio
                        buster (misc): 22.0.3+dfsg1-1
                        Binary packages: libobs-dev, libobs0, obs-plugins, obs-studio
                        bullseye (misc): 24.0.6+dfsg1-1
                        Binary packages: libobs-dev, libobs0, obs-plugins, obs-studio
                        sid (misc): 24.0.6+dfsg1-1
                        Binary packages: libobs-dev, libobs0, obs-plugins, obs-studio

                        As you can see the Unofficial version on Debian Testing is 24.0.6. I am not sure if the versioning follows OBS official version, but at least it is newer in testing than in Buster.
                        You could try:
                        a) Change repos to testing and only install obs-studio (and corresponding related packages) and return the repos to Buster (stable)
                        b) Migrate to Testing for life.

                        I just tried Option a) and it went well, at least for OBS-studio (I am not saving these changes on my persistent USB, so maybe after this you cannot return to your system on reboot)
                        Steps:
                        1. Run Antix Repo Manager, Move to “Debian repo” tab, disable Buster repos and enable Testing Repos. Apply and exit
                        2. Run in terminal

                        sudo apt-get update
                        sudo apt-get install obs-studio

                        3. Return to Repo Manger and disable Testing and enable Buster (just the other way around).
                        If living in Testing is too risky, you could always have a separate USB with antiX 19 testing only for OSB

                        I searched for appimages but I think you have to build them yourself.

                        Good luck

                        I tried the testing with MX Linux installed, it ends up the same in the end lately… really messed up and totally unresponsive. I was going to try flatpaks, but apparently they are dependent on the internet to work, unless you download 600MB worth of updates. I downloaded about 100MB and lost patience and just closed the window, that’s a lot of bloat just to run OBS.

                        I am going to try Devuan and no doubt soon be complaining to them that OBS doesn’t install properly. I guess the problem is that OBS isn’t one program, it is a bunch of stuff duct taped together, which is fine when it works. Is this a manifestation of systemd, that it is so hard to install in non systemd distros? Ubuntu installs it fine.

                        #32356
                        Member
                        Speedyg869

                          That’s exactly what I thought too.

                          I went int the Repo Manager and selected Chose the fastest server and then looked at the Individual Sources tab in order to document my question. Apparently. that did something good, Although at the time I did not know it.

                          For documentation purposes I tried to install it again:
                          sudo apt-get install smbclient
                          Reading package lists… Done
                          Building dependency tree
                          Reading state information… Done
                          Package smbclient is not available, but is referred to by another package.
                          This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted or is only available from another source
                          E: Package ‘smbclient’ has no installation candidate

                          This time it gave a slightly different error. So I Google it and they recommended running this:
                          sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
                          I did and then I ran the install again and it worked!

                          Earlier I ran: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. So I thought that as sufficient. But I guess I’m still learning.

                          Thanks for everyones help!

                          #31473
                          Member
                          ModdIt

                            Just a warning 🙂 while you are in the firefox installation directory be very careful not to somehow accidentally change the names
                            of crashreporter, crashreporter ini, pingsender in to something silly.

                            You would be very concerned if your browser somehow crashed on a banking site or while writing a confidential note and it
                            was technically unable to send a memory dump to mozilla, even send pings in background might not work !!!.

                            Conky is your friend, watch memory usage, browsers, at least some not just firefox can run headless after an apparent crash.
                            Maybe get started remotely in headless mode too despite settings. See block updates below.

                            Enterprise Policy Generator add on will speed up starts if you block firefox update check the add on gives easy access to some other
                            settings on top. Blocking updates directly from Mozilla also is a really awful idea, it prevents things you have broken being repaired
                            automatically and badly damages your user experience.

                            I have done this and more Performance is noticeably better without all the background activity.

                            #31470

                            In reply to: Isn’t It Ironic?

                            Member
                            VW

                              I forgot that Americans don’t get irony. Well apparently it is the Mother of all ironies:

                              “These are the times that try men's souls" - Thomas Paine

                              #31365
                              Member
                              seaken64

                                Once I use Synaptic to “Lock” a package do I have to use Synaptic only for updates? I’m asking because when I run “sudo apt-get dist-upgrade” now, like is my habit, I see the SeaMonkey package on the list of packages to be upgraded. But that is the package that I locked in Synaptic. I thought by locking it it would be ignored by apt-get. Apparently not.

                                Is there a way to lock the package directly in apt-get or apt? Or do I have to use Synaptic for updates to avoid the latest SeaMonkey?

                                Seaken64

                                #30986
                                Member
                                tlaloc77

                                  1) not something I can joke about

                                  Several years ago I was looking around on the kernel mailing list and came across the discovery that someone had put something like “if ((userid = 0))” – note the double brackets that suppress a compiler warning – into the kernel sources and apparently this had been done without providing a proper patch, even (AFAIR) without the proper use of git at all. But despite all the trickery the hack got discovered before the code went live, so I’m not VERY concerned about hacking the kernel 😀 (Besides, it happened some time after “someone” had apparently tried to order Linus to put a backdoor into the kernel, which (AFAIR) he refused saying he couldn’t do that because there are too many eyes on the code. To me, the chain of events looked like “someone” didn’t want to believe him, tried to prove that it can be done – and failed. So if you can’t put a backdoor into the Linux kernel that easily, what’s the next thing that runs on every Linux? Yeah… Only problem: SysV init was old, any changes would have caught some attention… But if you could sell a new, really big init system (with some advantages in certain areas) to the people, something where it’s easy to put some “bugs”…) That aside, I agree,

                                  2) the threat is still real, is ongoing

                                  Indeed.

                                  My inxi -zv7, inxi -Fxs and inxi -r are here: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/a-proper-hellp/#post-2981

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