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stevesr0
Hi olsztyn,
Happy New Year and thanks for information.
My #1 contains
My #2 ~/.profile is identical to yours, except for the “export” line is used in conjunction with the script that enables a working /run/user/id (noted above).
My #3 identical
My #4 Identical, except in mine LOAD_CONKY=”false” and LOAD_XDG_AUTOSTART=”true”
My #5 Identical.
I have been looking to remove unnecessary packages/applications. Do you have rtkit running? I am loathe to remove it because it might be useful in “realtime” audio video applications that is apparently one motivation for the design of Pipewire.
How about pkexec?
stevesr0
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wildstar84
I finally rebooted my computer and router this morning after over a month (and numerous upgrades) and to my horror, discovered that both were using around DOUBLE the memory! I checked all the usual suspects (htop, lsmod, ps ax, kernel, etc.) to little avail (I could only account for a/b 10% of it). I decided to look at /proc/meminfo for a little more detail & still couldn’t account for it. Finally, I booted up an old hard drive that hadn’t been updated in several months (a “backup” system which still showed half the memory usage) so I could do some more comparisens by looking at it’s /proc/meminfo, which turned out to still be very close to my current setup. I then began to suspect the “free” command (which was what was sounding this alarm) and discovered that I had upgraded it’s package (procps) twice since previous boot (from v2:3.3.17-7.1nosystemd to v2.4.0.2.3.0nosystemd), viewed the changelog and found this little tidbit:
procps (2:4.0.2-1) unstable; urgency=medium
free: Used field is now Total - Available
Comparing the corresponding /proc/meminfo values from the current & last-known “good” boots I realized that both calculated this way were very close to what the current boot showed (the doubled-ish value), so apparently, I’ve been “using” quite a bit more memory than I thought but free wasn’t calculating it the way it is now. So, if you (like me) stumble upon this and panic, thinking you have a rootkit or bad kernel/app.) there appears to be no need – your kernel, libs, apps, etc. have likely NOT exploded in size!
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Xunzi_23
Tor will not be updated by apt, that can only pull in any update to the torbrowser-launcher application.
I hope below is enough explanation, any more needed I will do my best to help.
As can be seen below in a simulated install, The torbrowser-launcher in debian/antiX is a helper application.
It is intended to make installing and starter setup easier.
Torbrowser is not installed from debian or antiX repositorys. It is downloaded by the debian application and
put in to the users home directory.
Tor is shown as a recommended package. When you install tor the way I explained and start the browser you can
open the settings menu and see that the browser is set to install updates automaticaly.
Sybok has seen the same setting in firefox, Torbrowser is Firefox with changes and extras so that part of the
interface looks the same. Torbrowser is not firefox, please do not use addons or make changes in about:config,
both can severly break security and privacy. Remember please, Tor is pretty good for privacy but it is not bullet
proof protection.
Please do read about Tor, you can open info from the browser window. Take a visit to https://www.torproject.org/
Let Torbrowser remain set to auto update,
that is important for your safety and security.
After an update Torbrowser will display an update notice top left and let you read about changes if you wish.
One of the reasons I prefer the direct download is it does not pull in any extra packages. Pls see simulated
install below for further details in that regard.
$ sudo apt install -s torbrowser-launcher
[sudo] Passwort für demo:
reading package lists… Finished
Dependency are being calculateds … Finished
Status information being read… Finished
Following extra packets will be installed:
libpython3.10 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libqt5test5 python3-gpg
python3-packaging python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip
Suggested package:
apparmor
Recommended Paket:
tor
Following new packages will be installed:
libpython3.10 libqt5designer5 libqt5help5 libqt5test5 python3-gpg
python3-packaging python3-pyqt5 python3-pyqt5.sip torbrowser-launcher
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techore
So, not trusting my memory and checking my assumptions, I booted from antix-core and checked.
I was wrong! Apparently, I installed packages resulting in a dependency(?) desktop-menu-antix that installed the jwm and icewm configuration files and such while I was working and remastering antix-core. My mistake.
@marcelocripe, me starting a statement with ‘I am not taking your statement personally, but’ was the wrong thing to do. It is unclear and was interpreted wrong. I apologize. I really thought you made an excellent point and I did not take offense at anything in your post.
Sorry for causing confusion with my inaccurate recollection.
Back to the discussion.
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stevesr0
I am running a “minimalistic” Sid Openbox antiX install with seatd instead of elogind or libelbgind0.
In order to get a program (Pipewire) working, I have to run a script that produces a run_time_dir that works (described on page 6 of the “Pipewire without Systemd” thread).
Looking at my environmental variables with and without running the script before launching X, I see a difference in one line:
Without running the script, this line reads
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/home/stevesr0/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
When I launch X after running the script, that line reads
GPG_AGENT_INFO=/run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
When I launch X without running the script first, there is no /run/user/ directory. If this script is run, the directory exists and has a listing for a user 1000.
So apparently, on my system this script is required for the creation of a functional runtime entity that GPG_AGENT can use.
(I haven’t tried to manually create this directory and change the GPG_AGENT_INFO to point to it – I will look into how to do that and report back. Advice welcome.)
I wonder if a “functional” /run/user 1000 is automatically created in other antiX systems running seatd (without elogind or libelogind0). That is – with a full antiX-22 install, does the “printenv” command show a GPG_AGENT_INFO line that points to a /run/user/”x” [1000 or tmp or…]?
Appreciate hearing about this from anyone with such a setup. I would be interested to see what modules in their systems I might install to eliminate the need for this script.
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Robin
Screenshot folder shows high lighted bold text line like a recent file was added.
Not sure what this error description means at all. Sorry. What is high lighted where and when?
But shows empty.
Did you check the box “Target: Save as… …local file” ? Does your user have write permissions to this very folder you’ve selected?
I uninstalled viz synaptic.
Is this actually possible? I don’t know, whether synaptic recognises local antixscreenshot2 package. I doubt you can uninstall it with this tool.
Apparently. Uninstalling yours removed the menu entry in graphics.
This is simply not possible. The antixscreenshot2 package doesn’t touch any menu entry, and doesn’t uninstall original antixscreenshot.
It shows antix screenshot as installed in synaptic.
This is expected, since original antixscreenshot is installed from default antix repo, so synaptic can handle it. If you uninstall this, no doubt, antixscreenshot will be gone until you reinstall it. But this is not an issue of antixscreenshot2.
My suggestion: Please read carefully the help document section about installing and uninstalling, and check back if any questions left after still.
Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
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rokytnji
Ran into a problem on my Chromebook antiX full iso installation.
Screenshot folder shows high lighted bold text line like a recent file was added. But shows empty.
Instead of trouble shooting. Being lazy today. So lazy I did not check if download sha1sum is OK.
I uninstalled viz synaptic.
Had to re install antix-screenshot though to get screenshot back into graphics menu section.
Apparently. Uninstalling yours removed the menu entry in graphics.
It shows antix screenshot as installed in synaptic.
Running from command line it won’t be recognized till a re install.
Just info
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andyprough
Tutanota changed their webmail a couple months ago so it only works with Google’s WebComponents. Firefox is able to render it, but Pale Moon will probably be a few more months of development. Pale Moon does have some limited WebComponents function right now – you can enable it by searching for WebComponents in about:config and toggling the option to True. I haven’t tried it with Tutanota using the newest Pale Moon release – might be worth a try.
Also the Palefill extension on github restores some ability to work with some sites in Pale Moon. You could open an Issue on that github project and request that they look into adding a fix for Tutanota.
EDIT: I tried it with the new version of Pale Moon and WebComponents set to True in about:config, and still can’t read emails in Tutanota’s webmail. So, no apparent change with this version of Pale Moon.
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stevesr0
Thanks, PPC.
I would have marked your OP as helpful, but apparently OPs don’t get a helpful thingamajig.
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andyprough
For now I’m using the AppImage from https://github.com/ivan-hc/VLC-appimage, as the size of the download is much smaller than the one from apprepo.de. It’s a continuous build from an Ubuntu PPA, and seems to work ok for me on antiX 22. I’m assuming that it’s safe to use, but one never knows with grabbing these things from random uploaders. Anyway, the sooner we get these packages resolved the better, I guess.
Edit: This AppImage version works really well. I can even set global hotkeys, which I didn’t think I’d be able to do. Very interesting. And not using too much memory and just a bare amount of CPU.
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Artem
inxi -Fzr
System:
Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: N/A
Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: KRAFTWAY product: GEG v: N/A
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Intel model: DH61CR v: AAG14064-203 serial: <superuser required>
BIOS: Intel v: BEH6110H.86A.0028A.2011.0810.1503 date: 08/10/2011
CPU:
Info: dual core model: Intel Pentium G620 bits: 64 type: MCP cache:
L2: 512 KiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 2573 min/max: 1600/2600 cores: 1: 2592 2: 2554
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nvidia v: 470.141.03
Device-2: SunplusIT HP TrueVision HD Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 470.141.03
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel
Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579V Gigabit Network driver: e1000e
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR9227 Wireless Network Adapter driver: ath9k
IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 31.53 GiB (13.2%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 PRO 256GB size: 238.47 GiB
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 77.02 GiB used: 31.53 GiB (40.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.81 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
dev: /dev/sda5
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 41.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 34 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 30%
Repos:
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
1: deb http://mirror.truenetwork.ru/mxlinux/antix/bullseye bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
1: deb http://ftp.ru.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/makehuman-official-ubuntu-makehuman-community-lunar.list
1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/makehuman-official/makehuman-community/ubuntu lunar main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
Info:
Processes: 194 Uptime: 3m Memory: 7.75 GiB used: 1.91 GiB (24.6%)
Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.19
I installed XFCE from the repository via apt.
Yes, I made sudo apt install xfce4-power-manager -y too.
Shutdown and restart buttons are unavailable
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andyprough
I got this tonight when trying to install VLC on antiX 22 (stable version) 64-bit:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
vlc-plugin-base : Depends: libeudev1 (>= 246:3.2.12~pre3) but 246:3.2.11-0antix1 is to be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
It’s not a problem with the “broken packages” status, as that resolves immediately as soon as I’m not trying to install VLC. It’s just a problem of the package version number of antiX’s libeudev1 apparently not being high enough to satisfy VLC’s dependency requirement. At least that’s the way it appears to me.
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stevesr0
(Modified Sunday AM)
SUCCESS (apparently).
Kenny Levinsen (seatd/libseat developer) helped me set up an XDG_RUNTIME_DIR environmental variable after which I was able to run Pipewire even after removing libelogind0 and rebooting. (Link: https://man.sr.ht/~kennylevinsen/seatd/#xdg_runtime_dir-not-set. Be aware there are backticks not apostrophes and until Kenny saw my mistake, the script didn’t work.
**UNFORTUNATELY, the backticks show up as the word code when I use the “code tags”. So, I have replaced them with the word backtick,to show where a backtick is needed. There should be NO spaces between the backtick and the adjacent character.
Run the following as root on system startup:
#!/bin/sh -eu
# Configuration
YOUR_USER="your username here"
YOUR_GROUP="your group here"
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/ backtick id -u $YOUR_USER backtick
if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
echo "No such user $YOUR_USER"
exit 1
fi
# Delete existing directory, create a new one and set permissions
rm -rf $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
mkdir -p $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
chown $YOUR_USER:$YOUR_GROUP $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
chmod 700 $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR
Then add the following to your .profile or similar script that wraps or is sourced before you need XDG_RUNTIME_DIR set:
export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=/run/user/ backtick id -u backtick
N.B. the group for seatd varies by distro. Mine (and possibly yours is the video group. Check the service file for seatd.)
Interestingly, when I run htop after setting this up, the three principle packages pipewire, wireplumber and pipewire-pulse are linked together. I don’t think they were before.
I still have to automate this (and see that it is durable and not a fluke of this one boot).
If it is durable, I will try to share the basics of my setup so others running Sid can see if they can replicate on their setups. This would be desirable since mine is rather idiosyncratic.
Goodnight for now.
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stevesr0
Hi drumanart,
I see you are running Debian not antiX and trying to use an Ubuntu PPA. Perhaps you would get useful advice on a Debian or Ubuntu forum?
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stevesr0
Thank you Brian M. (I don’t know your preference in the use of your name – as there might be other “Brian” members, I figured that your last initial might be more specific; happy to change to what you like.)
I have produced a live usb that is an apparent clone of my Fujitsu antiX Sid install. I have tried running it on all three of my computers. It booted immediately to a terminal login (as it is supposed to) on all three computers. On the Fujitsu and Lenovo Yoga, I had no trouble starting Xorg using startx. The first time I tried launching on my newest computer, which has both an integrated intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU, it ended with a connection refused error.
On my second boot, it went as smoothly as with the other two computers.
So superficially, this might work on a variety of computers!
Parenthetically, since this liveusb DOES have libelogind0 installed, Pipewire works. This was the first time I looked at the “new” computer’s audio settings in Pipewire and they DID reflect the hardware on that machine, which is different from the Fujitsu. A little wow moment. (I will include libelogind0 so people can see if Pipewire works with this iso, assuming the iso boots ok to X for them. They can then try removing libelogind0 and see if they can find a way to run Pipewire without it.)
My plan (pending comments from y’alls) is to strip off the files from my home directory and other personal stuff and generate a snapshot from THAT running system and use live-usb-maker to produce an iso I can post somewhere. A family member is being discharged from the hospital soon and I will be visiting and trying to help out, so there may be a delay.
stevesr0
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**As an aside, I have noticed a number of posts by folks seeking to use Pipewire. I think it would be neat to “build” a team to (as Brian suggested) look at the Pipewire source code in order to understand where the various problems might be in trying to use it in antiX. Some issues I have heard of include setting a runtime directory as an environment variable (in the absence of systemd), dependencies declared in the source code that require systemd, and issues with the programs used for seat management when running Xorg (including lack of support for Wireplumber?). If several people were interested in looking into these and educating each other, a successful general approach to Pipewire without systemd on antiX might be developed for the benefit of all who might want to try Pipewire. Especially if a newer version could be backported to stable. And of course, the directions would have to include how not to update to incompatible versions <g>.
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