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[Member dirkd]

What did I change? At first it was not clear to me either, just went through Ceni again. But in hindsight it’s obvious: this time I included my router as a DNS server. I can’t check this anymore, but I’m certain that I didn’t do so the first time around, I must have restricted myself to the google servers. Of course google doesn’t know about mx21.lan! Hence the question marks for the hostnames in the arp report. Now that every host on my lan looks at the router for the names of connected computers, everything is hunky dory. I tested connectshares just now, with hostnames in stead of IP’s. Worked like a charm.

First I made a samba share [test] on mx21.lan, writable by everyone. Then I configured connectshares on an Antix21 system.

REMOTE=mx21.lan
SAMBA=y
WORKGROUP=Workgroup
SHARESUSER=test
CREDAUTO=
CREDNAME=
CREDPASS=
SHARESGUEST=
SAMBAOPT=
NFS=
SHARESIPDNS=
NFSOPT=

Running connectshares mounted the ‘test’ folder on mx21.lan as /mnt/mx21.lan/test on mx21.lan/ (after asking for credentials for the user dd). Disconnectshares worked too. So no problems left.

Here’s how you can mount a share ‘media’ on the host ‘nasty’ in fstab:

//nasty/media /mnt/nasty/media cifs username=dd,password=*******,vers=1.0,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlm 0 0

(Everything on a single line.) The mountpoint /mnt/nasty/media must be an existing folder. On my machine, this folder is owned by root, and universally writable, but these permissions can certainly be relaxed.

Yet another way to access a share, on the fly so to speak, is typing its url in zzzFM’s address bar, as shown in the attached image. Of course you have to know the exact share name of the folder involved. The only thing missing in zzzFM really, is the ability to browse the remote host for shares.

To instruct Connman to use fixed IP’s, you click the button [Configuration] on the tab ‘Details’. Then, in the IPv4 area, you can choose ‘manual’ in the ‘method’ dropdown list. See the 2nd attached image.

Attachments:

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   zzzFM.jpg
   

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   connman.jpg
   

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

AA BB wrote:

IMHO the meaning of “bloat” depends on who is using the term –one users’s “bloat” may be another user’s “must have”.

I think we should replace “bloat” with “non-essential” i.e if distroX does not need app xyz to function properly, app xyz is non-essential to distroX.

Using AntiX base as an example, if it runs after it is installed, the only non-essential apps are those window managers, file managers, browsers, file editors etc. an individual user can remove without breaking the system.

AntiX full on the other hand, contains lots of non-essential apps, but some AntiX users might prefer to keep some or all just “in-case” a need for them might arise in the future. It’s all a matter of individual preference.

This is what makes AntiX a great distro, it provides users the flexibility to install anywhere from a “lean and mean” base version to an “all bells and whistles” full version. Many distro only allow users to install one version over-loaded with non-essential apps like LibreOffice, Samba, GIMP, Numerous Conkies, Python version 2 and Python version 3, Numerous foreign language/Locale files, etc., etc.

If you don’t need it, why install it ? A great distro is one that allows you to only install those non-essentials that you need.

Very good comments. Most of the time I install one of the smaller versions of antiX; in the past it was almost always antiX Core; more recently it’s been antiX Base, primarily because I am generally starting on a wireless network and both Base and Full can start directly from USB and connect to a wireless network, while you need a wired network or a mechanical method of installing wireless network software from a media source, such as the network software packages and all the library software that supports the packaging.

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Brian Masinick

[Member AA BB]

IMHO the meaning of “bloat” depends on who is using the term –one users’s “bloat” may be another user’s “must have”.

I think we should replace “bloat” with “non-essential” i.e if distroX does not need app xyz to function properly, app xyz is non-essential to distroX.

Using AntiX base as an example, if it runs after it is installed, the only non-essential apps are those window managers, file managers, browsers, file editors etc. an individual user can remove without breaking the system.

AntiX full on the other hand, contains lots of non-essential apps, but some AntiX users might prefer to keep some or all just “in-case” a need for them might arise in the future. It’s all a matter of individual preference.

This is what makes AntiX a great distro, it provides users the flexibility to install anywhere from a “lean and mean” base version to an “all bells and whistles” full version. Many distro only allow users to install one version over-loaded with non-essential apps like LibreOffice, Samba, GIMP, Numerous Conkies, Python version 2 and Python version 3, Numerous foreign language/Locale files, etc., etc.

If you don’t need it, why install it ? A great distro is one that allows you to only install those non-essentials that you need.

[Member ahoppin]

dirkd:
> I can find my Antix21 machine by name from MX21 by adding .local, but I
> can’t find MX21 from my Antix machine, with or without .local.

It sounds as if your situation might actually be worse than mine. Here findshares sees the other machines, but connectshares can’t talk to them.

> MX21 and Antix21 come with Avahi installed and running.

I had never heard of avahi, so I looked it up. Seems that it’s at least a step-sister of systemd and pulseaudio, since it was fathered by Lennart Poettering. Poettering, systemd, and pulseaudio are all bad words in this house, so I’m going to be vewy vewy cautious about avahi.

Sorry to get into religion here, don’t mean to start any fires! I know that a fair lot of folk are fine with Poettering, or at least agnostic about him and his software. However, just my opinion, I’m not, and ! systemd is a big reason that I’m pursuing Antix.

> I bet that at your home too, the router doubles as dhcp server, assigning
> IP addresses when a device connects to the network.

You win that bet, you betcha.

Actually, I don’t know of a router that doesn’t do DHCP, but I’m woefully behind the times on hardware – yet another reason that I’m nosing round Antix.

I have read of reservations. However, my old reliable Linksys WRT54GL routers don’t seem have it (them?) or anything similar. I keep threatening to flash at least one of them with dd-wrt, so if dd-wrt has such a feature, maybe I’ll do the DHCP server router first.

Robin:
> sudo arp -a

I never thought of that. I’ve only used arp to flush out unknown IP addresses for anonymous devices lurking on the network.

Your Fritz Box seems a bit more forward than my WRT54GL. On my live testing copy of Antix 21, sudo arp -a returns

_gateway (192.168.1.1) at xxxx [ether] on eth0

And that is all.

However, ps -ef | grep avahi returns

avahi 3802 1 0 10:32 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon: running [antix1.local]
avahi 3803 3802 0 10:32 ? 00:00:00 avahi-daemon: chroot helper

So there’s dirkd’s antix1.local, I guess?

Say, briefly off topic: What’s the deal with this sudo (I assume) message I just got: “We trust you have received the usual lecture from the local System Administrator”? Do I detect the noxious aroma of condescension from some officious developer?

It reminds me of when my town here put up new signs at the town limits saying “Welcome to Littleminds. Behave yourself.” Boy did they get an earful at the next council meeting, and not just from me. The signs came right down. As far as I know, however, the removed signs weren’t inserted where some upstanding citizens suggested that they should be.

More religion, I guess, sorry. I’ll try to do better.

dirkd:

> Trying to ping the mx21 machine from antix21, with the .lan suffix: no joy

Perhaps that’s no surprise, since MX seems to be hiding its name, at least from arp. But again I warn that I’m a networking nitwit.

Dirkd, is your MX box running Samba? If so, have you tried using connectshares from your Antix box to mount your MX box’s Samba shares?

[Anonymous]

Not sure if this could serve, but hope so…

If I understand correctly, you connect to the remote machines using Samba. In the -limited- experience I have had with Samba, whenever having the issue of only being able to connect with IP address and not with NetBIOS (DNS?) name, it was due to two main reasons:

–Remote machine (the “server”) not running the nmb(d) service
–Connecting machine (the “client”) using WiFi and not Ethernet; but this seen on Windows machines at least

I already read this is not the case, but just for note, regarding the second case, some Windows machines did and some others didn’t. I never sorted out deeply the problem; as little as I can remember, it seemed to be something weird related to some driver settings on registry, or something like that…

Well, hope this can be of some help. Unfortunately haven’t tried with a Linux client yet…

[Member ahoppin]

Thanks for the suggestion! I’ve never heard of using .local before. Unfortunately it doesn’t make a difference. Ping responds with “Name or service not known.” Connectshares can’t talk to puppy.local and PUPPY.local either. Foo.

Also tried adding smb:// and smbc:// (that is, smb://puppy and smb://puppy.local) with no better results.

It’s a puzzle.

It appears that CUPS is going to be another hurdle, since my printers are all on yet another machine, but I’ll deal with that later.

EDIT: CUPS wasn’t so bad after all. Installed smbclient. Added the lines

client min protocol = CORE
client max protocol = SMB3

under local in /etc/samba/smb.conf – now CUPS can see the printer server.

Smbclient can query all the other Samba and Win machines on the net by Netbios name. However, Connectshares and ping still demand IP addresses.

• This reply was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by ahoppin.

Hi, I’m relatively new to Antix, so I’m still quite ignorant, but learning.

In line with that, a big thanks to Dolphin Oracle for an outstanding video production illustrating Connectshares basics, especially use of the command line. That’s gotten me on the road.

However, I have a non-fatal problem with Connectshares.

The situation:

CONNECTING MACHINE:

Antix 64 bit 19.3 live, ROX/Icewin

REMOTE MACHINES:

1. Puppy 5.2.5 (Linux 2.6.33.2), Samba 3.5.6 – workgroup = OFFICE, machine = PUPPY
2. Windows 2000 – workgroup = OFFICE, machine = WIN2K

To make it simpler I’ll mention only the first remote system above, as the other behaves similarly.

If I specify

REMOTE=192.168.1.111
WORKGROUP=OFFICE

in ~/.config/connectshares/puppy.conf

then

$ connectshares puppy.conf

works perfectly, and the requested shares are mounted.

However, if I specify

REMOTE=PUPPY
WORKGROUP=OFFICE

then

$ connectshares puppy.conf

returns “Unable to contact PUPPY.”

In puppy.conf, I’ve tried both lower and upper case in all combinations for both the system name and the workgroup. No luck.

I’ve tried adding SAMBAOPT=vers=1.0 to the config file, but that also made no difference.

I’d like to get Connectshares working with samba names if possible.

Has anyone run into this problem, and solved it?

Thanks for the help!

[Member Alexntix]

thank you for all the interest in my little problem.

I try with the PING, Robin, returned “Name or service unknown”.
tried several times, in case I was wrong with the capital letters.

the computer with the ANTIX 21 system is the only one that presents this problem. the other PCs (windows/linux) can work with the names without any problems.

do not know anything about configuring network. apart from configuring very basically SAMBA. and mount the shared folders. so I wouldn’t know where to look

[Member olsztyn]

Alexntix wrote:

I just tried, the configuration file I wrote as you showed me. test with and without “vers=1.0”

It has been some time since I used Connectshares as I am using FSTAB now, but when I did use it it worked fine if you specify all correctly in the config file. Looking at the above Config file one thing pops up to me that both SMb and NFS are specified as ‘Y’. When using SMB only the SAMBA should by ‘Y’, and NFS should be ‘N’.
I do not know if this is the only issue here but all specification in Config must be correct in order to work.
If you did connect from terminal then you have all parameters that should be used in the Config, just remember the trailing ‘,’, as Robin mentioned…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

[Member dirkd]

Seems it was necessary in Antix17 after all. Making a new user in Antix17, assign him a samba share, and trying to access that share from another computer with his login password only didn’t work. I must have added my existing users as samba users, using the same passwords for both roles, and forget about it altogether.

Who was it again that once said ‘Set it and forget it’ was the ideal in system management?

I feel a little embarassed, but hey, it was more then 4 years ago…

[Member Robin]

Hello Alexntix,

try to look into your ~/.config/connectshares/connectshares.conf file. There should be at least the following entries, depending whether you want to connect Windows network shares or NFS shares.:

REMOTE=<Name or IP>

SAMBA=y
WORKGROUP=<Name_of_Workgroup>
SHAREUSER=<sharefoldername_1>,<sharefoldername_2>,<sharefoldername_3>,
CREDAUTO=y
CREDNAME=<login_name>
CREDPASS=<password>
SHAREGUEST=<sharefoldername_4>,

NFS=y
SHARESIPDNS=<sharefolder_name_5>,<sharefoldername_6>,
NFSOPT=rw,hard,intr,timeo=30,retry=0,

After editing this file with a text editor you only need to start “Connectshares”, without its configuration/setup wizard. It will try to connect to all shares set in this config file, and in case you have set everything properly the share(s) will be a available in your default file manager immediately.

Only in case you run an outdated samba share server you’ll have to add the line
SAMBAOPT=vers=1.0,
to the config in order to be able to connect.

Make sure not to omit the trailing commas in some of the lines, it won’t work without these.

Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

[Member dirkd]

I perused half the internet before I came across something that works. First, in Thunar, you have to use fully-qualified-device-names, e.g. ‘dokux.local’ in stead of just plain ‘dokux’. Then you can see the list of all samba shares on the server.

Then, to make contact with a password-protected share, you have to add a seperate samba password on the server, like this
sudo smbpasswd -a <username>
Then, after enteriing your sudo password, you get to enter the samba password twice. The <username> should be an existing user on the server, because he needs the right permissions on the server to access the shared resource.

Then, from another computer, when asked for a password to access a samba share on that server, you can enter the <username> and the samba password in case it’s different from your normal user password.

Which leaves me with one big question. Why was all that unneeded in Antix17?

I tested my smb.conf configuration from an mx-19 computer with Thunar on the same network.

With Antix17, when browsing the network, I saw my Antix host, with 5 network shares. Some of them are shared publicly, others ask for password before making the connection. Everything works as expected, and as specified in smb.conf

My new Antix21 installation has exactly the same configuration: same shares, same access rights, same smb.conf. Browsing the network from MX shows my Antix21 host (twice even), but clicking it leads to the error message “Failed to retrieve share list from server: connection timed out”.
[note: two slight exceptions: the network interface in Antix17 is named wlan1, in Antix21 wlan0, this is reflected in smb.conf. Also I might have given .home as domain name for Antix21 and .local for Antix17. Not sure about that anymore]

My TV-set also has networking capabilities. It finds the Antix21 host and even shows the shares. The public ones can be accessed (not so on the MX computer), but the ones that demand a password are shown as empty, even when connecting as root.

What has changed? I noticed the samba version has a slightly increased version number. Should I risk downgrading? And what are the chances this solves the problem?

• This topic was modified 1 year, 5 months ago by dirkd.

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

Yes, I moved the dev debs into nosystemd.

elogind/libelogind0 is not automatically removed
seatd is not automatically installed

We’ll leave it up to each user to decide their preference.

If user wants to “block” any installation of libelogind0, install libseat1.

Then if any app you try to install wants libelogind0, it will give an error something like this.

apt install vlc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libseat1 : Conflicts: libelogind0

E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.

compared to this with libseat1 not installed

apt install vlc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libelogind0 libopenmpt-modplug1 libvlc-bin libvlc5 libvlccore9 vlc-bin vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-qt vlc-plugin-video-output
Suggested packages:
  vlc-plugin-fluidsynth vlc-plugin-jack vlc-plugin-svg libdvdcss2
Recommended packages:
  libproxy-tools vlc-l10n vlc-plugin-access-extra vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-samba vlc-plugin-skins2 vlc-plugin-video-splitter
  vlc-plugin-visualization
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libelogind0 libopenmpt-modplug1 libvlc-bin libvlc5 libvlccore9 vlc vlc-bin vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-qt vlc-plugin-video-output
0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,283 kB of archives.
After this operation, 22.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
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Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

olsztyn wrote:

– Which major apps are known to install the said *elogind*.
– Considering some major apps install *elogind* during their installation, then if they are installed after the above cleanup then subsequent running the above purge *elogind* will bring antiX back to ‘clean’ state. If this is true, then why a need for rebuilding some Debian packages to not include *elogind*? Is it not simpler to run the above purge instead for those interested, keeping packages intact? This is just for my understanding…
Thanks and regards…

Here are a few examples.

1. vlc is a popular video player. It will re-install libelogind0 (not a big issue really, unless one is seeking purity).

apt install vlc
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libelogind0 libopenmpt-modplug1 libvlc-bin libvlc5 libvlccore9 vlc-bin vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-qt vlc-plugin-video-output
Suggested packages:
  vlc-plugin-fluidsynth vlc-plugin-jack vlc-plugin-svg libdvdcss2
Recommended packages:
  libproxy-tools vlc-l10n vlc-plugin-access-extra vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-samba vlc-plugin-skins2 vlc-plugin-video-splitter
  vlc-plugin-visualization
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libelogind0 libopenmpt-modplug1 libvlc-bin libvlc5 libvlccore9 vlc vlc-bin vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-qt vlc-plugin-video-output
0 upgraded, 11 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 6,283 kB of archives.
After this operation, 22.0 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
Abort.

2. MATE desktop – note it also installs libelogind0

apt install mate-desktop-environment
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  accountsservice at-spi2-core bubblewrap caja caja-common debian-mate-default-settings gir1.2-matemenu-2.0 gtk-update-icon-cache gvfs gvfs-backends
  gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs libaccountsservice0 libavahi-glib1 libcaja-extension1 libcanberra-gtk3-0 libelogind0 libexempi8 libgail-3-0
  libgck-1-0 libgcr-base-3-1 libgdata-common libgdata22 libgoa-1.0-0b libgoa-1.0-common libgtk-layer-shell0 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
  libmanette-0.2-0 libmarco-private2 libmate-desktop-2-17 libmate-menu2 libmate-slab0 libmate-window-settings1 libmatekbd-common libmatekbd4
  libmatemixer-common libmatemixer0 libmateweather-common libmateweather1 librda-common librda0 libudisks2-0 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common
  libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwpe-1.0-1 libwpebackend-fdo-1.0-1 libxpresent1 marco marco-common mate-control-center mate-control-center-common
  mate-desktop mate-desktop-common mate-desktop-environment-core mate-icon-theme mate-menus mate-panel mate-panel-common mate-polkit
  mate-polkit-common mate-session-manager mate-settings-daemon mate-settings-daemon-common mate-terminal mate-terminal-common mate-themes menu-xdg
  udisks2 xdg-dbus-proxy zenity zenity-common
Suggested packages:
  gnome-control-center engrampa gstreamer1.0-tools meld bluez-obexd samba-common network-manager-gnome x-www-browser | firefox
  mate-desktop-environment-extras libblockdev-mdraid2 mdadm nilfs-tools reiserfsprogs udftools udisks2-bcache udisks2-btrfs udisks2-lvm2 udisks2-zram
Recommended packages:
  default-logind | logind gnome-keyring libcanberra-gtk3-module xdg-desktop-portal-gtk gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad mate-user-guide atril desktop-base
  | ubuntu-mate-wallpapers engrampa eom ffmpegthumbnailer libcanberra-pulse mate-backgrounds | ubuntu-mate-wallpapers mate-calc
  mate-applet-brisk-menu mate-applets mate-media mate-notification-daemon mate-power-manager mate-screensaver mate-system-monitor mate-utils pluma
  exfat-utils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  accountsservice at-spi2-core bubblewrap caja caja-common debian-mate-default-settings gir1.2-matemenu-2.0 gtk-update-icon-cache gvfs gvfs-backends
  gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs libaccountsservice0 libavahi-glib1 libcaja-extension1 libcanberra-gtk3-0 libelogind0 libexempi8 libgail-3-0
  libgck-1-0 libgcr-base-3-1 libgdata-common libgdata22 libgoa-1.0-0b libgoa-1.0-common libgtk-layer-shell0 libjavascriptcoregtk-4.0-18
  libmanette-0.2-0 libmarco-private2 libmate-desktop-2-17 libmate-menu2 libmate-slab0 libmate-window-settings1 libmatekbd-common libmatekbd4
  libmatemixer-common libmatemixer0 libmateweather-common libmateweather1 librda-common librda0 libudisks2-0 libvte-2.91-0 libvte-2.91-common
  libwebkit2gtk-4.0-37 libwpe-1.0-1 libwpebackend-fdo-1.0-1 libxpresent1 marco marco-common mate-control-center mate-control-center-common
  mate-desktop mate-desktop-common mate-desktop-environment mate-desktop-environment-core mate-icon-theme mate-menus mate-panel mate-panel-common
  mate-polkit mate-polkit-common mate-session-manager mate-settings-daemon mate-settings-daemon-common mate-terminal mate-terminal-common mate-themes
  menu-xdg udisks2 xdg-dbus-proxy zenity zenity-common
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3. Installing plasma(KDE) brings in elogind as well.

apt install plasma-desktop
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  accountsservice breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme drkonqi elogind frameworkintegration hwdata kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools
  kde-cli-tools-data kde-style-breeze kded5 kinit kio kpackagetool5 ktexteditor-data kwayland-data kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze
  libaccounts-glib0 libaccounts-qt5-1 libaccountsservice0 libappstream4 libappstreamqt2 libcolorcorrect5 libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libdmtx0b libeditorconfig0
  libelogind0 libfam0 libgit2-1.1 libgps28 libhttp-parser2.9 libkaccounts2 libkdecorations2-5v5 libkdecorations2private7 libkf5activities5
  libkf5activitiesstats1 libkf5archive5 libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5auth5 libkf5authcore5 libkf5baloo5 libkf5balooengine5
  libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5calendarevents5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5
  libkf5config-bin libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5coreaddons-data
  libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5declarative-data libkf5declarative5 libkf5doctools5
  libkf5filemetadata-data libkf5filemetadata3 libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5
  libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5holidays-data libkf5holidays5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5 libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5idletime5
  libkf5itemmodels5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5
  libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5 libkf5kiogui5 libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5
  libkf5kirigami2-5 libkf5networkmanagerqt6 libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5newstuffcore5 libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5
  libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5 libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts5 libkf5people-data libkf5people5
  libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5plasma5 libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5prison5 libkf5pty-data libkf5pty5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5runner5
  libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data libkf5service5 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data
  libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5 libkf5syntaxhighlighting-data libkf5syntaxhighlighting5
  libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor-bin libkf5texteditor5 libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5threadweaver5 libkf5wallet-bin
  libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5waylandclient5 libkf5waylandserver5 libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5xmlgui-data
  libkf5xmlgui5 libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1 libksysguardsensors1
  libkuserfeedbackcore1 libkwalletbackend5-5 libkwaylandserver5 libkwin4-effect-builtins1 libkwineffects12a libkwinglutils12 libkwinxrenderutils12
  libkworkspace5-5 libnotificationmanager1 libopenmpt-modplug1 libpackagekitqt5-1 libpam-elogind libphonon4qt5-4 libphonon4qt5-data libpipewire-0.3-0
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libprocesscore9 libprocessui9 libqalculate20 libqalculate20-data libqrencode4 libqt5multimedia5
  libqt5multimediaquick5 libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5 libqt5texttospeech5 libqt5waylandclient5 libqt5webengine-data
  libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libscim8v5 libsignon-qt5-1 libspa-0.2-modules libstemmer0d libtaskmanager6abi1 libudisks2-0 libvlc5
  libvlccore9 libweather-ion7 libxcb-damage0 libxcb-record0 milou oxygen-sounds phonon4qt5 phonon4qt5-backend-vlc plasma-desktop-data
  plasma-framework plasma-integration plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data polkit-kde-agent-1 qdbus-qt5 qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop
  qml-module-org-kde-kconfig qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons qml-module-org-kde-kholidays qml-module-org-kde-kirigami2
  qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
  qml-module-org-kde-prison qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle qml-module-org-kde-quickcharts qml-module-org-kde-solid
  qml-module-org-kde-userfeedback qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects
  qml-module-qtmultimedia qml-module-qtqml qml-module-qtqml-models2 qml-module-qtquick-controls qml-module-qtquick-controls2
  qml-module-qtquick-dialogs qml-module-qtquick-layouts qml-module-qtquick-privatewidgets qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2
  qml-module-qtquick2 udisks2 vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
Suggested packages:
  gnome-control-center orion-gtk-theme kwin-addons fam gpsd packagekit phonon4qt5-backend-gstreamer libblockdev-mdraid2 mdadm nilfs-tools
  reiserfsprogs udftools udisks2-bcache udisks2-btrfs udisks2-lvm2 udisks2-zram libdvdcss2
Recommended packages:
  kde-style-qtcurve libqt5multimedia5-plugins qml-module-qtquick-virtualkeyboard kaccounts-providers kactivities-bin keditbookmarks
  libkf5dbusaddons-bin kpackagelauncherqml libkf5filemetadata-bin libkf5iconthemes-bin kwayland-integration libkf5kdelibs4support5-bin
  qml-module-org-kde-newstuff libkf5parts-plugins qml-module-org-kde-runnermodel media-player-info sonnet-plugins ktexteditor-katepart
  libkf5xmlgui-bin kde-config-screenlocker kuserfeedback-doc pipewire qtspeech5-speechd-plugin | qtspeech5-flite-plugin libvlc-bin libproxy-tools
  bluedevil breeze-gtk-theme fonts-hack fonts-noto kde-config-gtk-style kde-config-sddm kde-style-oxygen-qt5 kgamma5 khelpcenter khotkeys kinfocenter
  kio-extras kmenuedit kscreen ksshaskpass ksysguard kwin-x11 | kwin kwrited libpam-kwallet5 plasma-discover plasma-disks plasma-pa powerdevil
  systemsettings qml-module-org-kde-activities fonts-noto-hinted ksysguardd exfat-utils
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  accountsservice breeze breeze-cursor-theme breeze-icon-theme drkonqi elogind frameworkintegration hwdata kactivitymanagerd kde-cli-tools
  kde-cli-tools-data kde-style-breeze kded5 kinit kio kpackagetool5 ktexteditor-data kwayland-data kwin-common kwin-data kwin-style-breeze
  libaccounts-glib0 libaccounts-qt5-1 libaccountsservice0 libappstream4 libappstreamqt2 libcolorcorrect5 libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libdmtx0b libeditorconfig0
  libelogind0 libfam0 libgit2-1.1 libgps28 libhttp-parser2.9 libkaccounts2 libkdecorations2-5v5 libkdecorations2private7 libkf5activities5
  libkf5activitiesstats1 libkf5archive5 libkf5attica5 libkf5auth-data libkf5auth5 libkf5authcore5 libkf5baloo5 libkf5balooengine5
  libkf5bookmarks-data libkf5bookmarks5 libkf5calendarevents5 libkf5codecs-data libkf5codecs5 libkf5completion-data libkf5completion5
  libkf5config-bin libkf5config-data libkf5configcore5 libkf5configgui5 libkf5configwidgets-data libkf5configwidgets5 libkf5coreaddons-data
  libkf5coreaddons5 libkf5crash5 libkf5dbusaddons-data libkf5dbusaddons5 libkf5declarative-data libkf5declarative5 libkf5doctools5
  libkf5filemetadata-data libkf5filemetadata3 libkf5globalaccel-bin libkf5globalaccel-data libkf5globalaccel5 libkf5globalaccelprivate5
  libkf5guiaddons5 libkf5holidays-data libkf5holidays5 libkf5i18n-data libkf5i18n5 libkf5iconthemes-data libkf5iconthemes5 libkf5idletime5
  libkf5itemmodels5 libkf5itemviews-data libkf5itemviews5 libkf5jobwidgets-data libkf5jobwidgets5 libkf5kcmutils-data libkf5kcmutils5
  libkf5kdelibs4support-data libkf5kdelibs4support5 libkf5kiocore5 libkf5kiofilewidgets5 libkf5kiogui5 libkf5kiontlm5 libkf5kiowidgets5
  libkf5kirigami2-5 libkf5networkmanagerqt6 libkf5newstuff-data libkf5newstuff5 libkf5newstuffcore5 libkf5notifications-data libkf5notifications5
  libkf5notifyconfig-data libkf5notifyconfig5 libkf5package-data libkf5package5 libkf5parts-data libkf5parts5 libkf5people-data libkf5people5
  libkf5peoplebackend5 libkf5peoplewidgets5 libkf5plasma5 libkf5plasmaquick5 libkf5prison5 libkf5pty-data libkf5pty5 libkf5quickaddons5 libkf5runner5
  libkf5screen-bin libkf5screen7 libkf5service-bin libkf5service-data libkf5service5 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5sonnet5-data
  libkf5sonnetcore5 libkf5sonnetui5 libkf5style5 libkf5su-bin libkf5su-data libkf5su5 libkf5syntaxhighlighting-data libkf5syntaxhighlighting5
  libkf5sysguard-data libkf5texteditor-bin libkf5texteditor5 libkf5textwidgets-data libkf5textwidgets5 libkf5threadweaver5 libkf5wallet-bin
  libkf5wallet-data libkf5wallet5 libkf5waylandclient5 libkf5waylandserver5 libkf5widgetsaddons-data libkf5widgetsaddons5 libkf5xmlgui-data
  libkf5xmlgui5 libkfontinst5 libkfontinstui5 libkscreenlocker5 libksgrd9 libksysguardformatter1 libksysguardsensorfaces1 libksysguardsensors1
  libkuserfeedbackcore1 libkwalletbackend5-5 libkwaylandserver5 libkwin4-effect-builtins1 libkwineffects12a libkwinglutils12 libkwinxrenderutils12
  libkworkspace5-5 libnotificationmanager1 libopenmpt-modplug1 libpackagekitqt5-1 libpam-elogind libphonon4qt5-4 libphonon4qt5-data libpipewire-0.3-0
  libplasma-geolocation-interface5 libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libprocesscore9 libprocessui9 libqalculate20 libqalculate20-data libqrencode4 libqt5multimedia5
  libqt5multimediaquick5 libqt5quickcontrols2-5 libqt5quicktemplates2-5 libqt5texttospeech5 libqt5waylandclient5 libqt5webengine-data
  libqt5webenginecore5 libqt5webenginewidgets5 libscim8v5 libsignon-qt5-1 libspa-0.2-modules libstemmer0d libtaskmanager6abi1 libudisks2-0 libvlc5
  libvlccore9 libweather-ion7 libxcb-damage0 libxcb-record0 milou oxygen-sounds phonon4qt5 phonon4qt5-backend-vlc plasma-desktop plasma-desktop-data
  plasma-framework plasma-integration plasma-workspace plasma-workspace-data polkit-kde-agent-1 qdbus-qt5 qml-module-org-kde-draganddrop
  qml-module-org-kde-kconfig qml-module-org-kde-kcoreaddons qml-module-org-kde-kholidays qml-module-org-kde-kirigami2
  qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrols qml-module-org-kde-kquickcontrolsaddons qml-module-org-kde-ksysguard qml-module-org-kde-kwindowsystem
  qml-module-org-kde-prison qml-module-org-kde-qqc2desktopstyle qml-module-org-kde-quickcharts qml-module-org-kde-solid
  qml-module-org-kde-userfeedback qml-module-qt-labs-folderlistmodel qml-module-qt-labs-settings qml-module-qtgraphicaleffects
  qml-module-qtmultimedia qml-module-qtqml qml-module-qtqml-models2 qml-module-qtquick-controls qml-module-qtquick-controls2
  qml-module-qtquick-dialogs qml-module-qtquick-layouts qml-module-qtquick-privatewidgets qml-module-qtquick-templates2 qml-module-qtquick-window2
  qml-module-qtquick2 udisks2 vlc-data vlc-plugin-base vlc-plugin-video-output
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4. lxqt also brings in elogind

apt install lxqt
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  desktop-base elogind featherpad fonts-quicksand kwayland-data libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libelogind0 libfm-qt8 libkf5idletime5 libkf5screen-bin
  libkf5screen7 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5waylandclient5 liblxqt-globalkeys-ui0 liblxqt-globalkeys0 libmuparser2v5 libpam-elogind
  libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libpulsedsp libqtermwidget5-0 libstatgrab10 libsysstat-qt5-0 libutf8proc2 lximage-qt lxqt-about lxqt-admin lxqt-branding-debian
  lxqt-config lxqt-core lxqt-globalkeys lxqt-notificationd lxqt-openssh-askpass lxqt-panel lxqt-policykit lxqt-powermanagement lxqt-qtplugin
  lxqt-runner lxqt-session lxqt-sudo lxqt-system-theme lxqt-theme-debian pavucontrol-qt pcmanfm-qt pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils qterminal
  qtermwidget5-data qttranslations5-l10n upower
Suggested packages:
  gnome | kde-standard | xfce4 | wmaker calibre compton-conf juffed nomacs obconf-qt qtpass qt5-style-kvantum shutter vokoscreen adwaita-qt
  faenza-icon-theme gnome-themes-standard cmst | network-manager-gnome synaptic feathernotes preload cdtool pavumeter pavucontrol paprefs
  avahi-daemon
Recommended packages:
  plymouth-label featherpad-l10n libfm-qt-l10n kwayland-integration hwdata media-player-info fonts-hack lximage-qt-l10n qt5-image-formats-plugins
  audacious | clementine | qmmp cmst | nm-tray | network-manager-gnome | plasma-nm | wicd feathernotes gucharmap meteo-qt preload screengrab smplayer
  lxqt-about-l10n lxqt-admin-l10n lxqt-config-l10n system-config-printer xscreensaver lxqt-globalkeys-l10n lxqt-notificationd-l10n
  lxqt-openssh-askpass-l10n lxqt-panel-l10n qlipper lxqt-policykit-l10n lxqt-powermanagement-l10n lxqt-runner-l10n lxqt-session-l10n lxqt-sudo-l10n
  papirus-icon-theme | breeze-icon-theme | faenza-icon-theme | oxygen-icon-theme oxygen-icon-theme papirus-icon-theme xfwm4-theme-breeze
  pavucontrol-qt-l10n ffmpegthumbnailer gvfs-backends gvfs-fuse pcmanfm-qt-l10n rtkit dbus-user-session qterminal-l10n
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  desktop-base elogind featherpad fonts-quicksand kwayland-data libdbusmenu-qt5-2 libelogind0 libfm-qt8 libkf5idletime5 libkf5screen-bin
  libkf5screen7 libkf5solid5 libkf5solid5-data libkf5waylandclient5 liblxqt-globalkeys-ui0 liblxqt-globalkeys0 libmuparser2v5 libpam-elogind
  libpolkit-qt5-1-1 libpulsedsp libqtermwidget5-0 libstatgrab10 libsysstat-qt5-0 libutf8proc2 lximage-qt lxqt lxqt-about lxqt-admin
  lxqt-branding-debian lxqt-config lxqt-core lxqt-globalkeys lxqt-notificationd lxqt-openssh-askpass lxqt-panel lxqt-policykit lxqt-powermanagement
  lxqt-qtplugin lxqt-runner lxqt-session lxqt-sudo lxqt-system-theme lxqt-theme-debian pavucontrol-qt pcmanfm-qt pulseaudio pulseaudio-utils
  qterminal qtermwidget5-data qttranslations5-l10n upower
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5. This is for xfce4 – no elogind, no libelogind0

apt install xfce4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common libgarcon-gtk3-1-0 libkeybinder-3.0-0 libthunarx-3-0 libxfce4panel-2.0-4 libxfce4ui-2-0 libxfce4ui-utils
  libxfconf-0-3 libxpresent1 thunar thunar-data xfce4-appfinder xfce4-helpers xfce4-panel xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-settings xfconf
  xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4
Suggested packages:
  thunar-archive-plugin thunar-media-tags-plugin gvfs-backends xfce4-goodies xfce4-power-manager fortunes-mod
Recommended packages:
  gvfs policykit-1-gnome | polkit-1-auth-agent thunar-volman tumbler udisks2 desktop-base tango-icon-theme xfce4-notifyd xorg pavucontrol pulseaudio
  default-logind | logind light-locker systemd-sysv upower colord xiccd
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  exo-utils libgarcon-1-0 libgarcon-common libgarcon-gtk3-1-0 libkeybinder-3.0-0 libthunarx-3-0 libxfce4panel-2.0-4 libxfce4ui-2-0 libxfce4ui-utils
  libxfconf-0-3 libxpresent1 thunar thunar-data xfce4 xfce4-appfinder xfce4-helpers xfce4-panel xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin xfce4-session xfce4-settings
  xfconf xfdesktop4 xfdesktop4-data xfwm4
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