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  • #22888
    Member
    smolin

      Success! Thank you again, Skidoo. In case someone finds this thread and wants to follow in my footsteps, here’s the play-by-play:

      Exercise: create a live-usb with persistence, DHCP, apt package manager, systemd-free, no GUI, ssh-enabled

      Resources: internet connection, Mac or Linux computer, two usb drives (usb-one > 155M, usb-two > 207M)

      1. Download antiX-17.4.1_x64-net.iso
      2. insert usb-one, note device path for next step (lsblk in Linux, "diskutil list" in MacOS)

      Make sure you use the right number in place of # or you can destroy your current system:

      3. dd if=antiX-17.4.1_x64-net.iso of=/dev/disk# bs=8m
      4. boot from usb-one; insert usb-two and note device path for next step
      5. live-use-maker --from=clone
      6. reboot from usb-two, using F5 to select persistence option and F8 to save boot parameters.

      You can remove usb-one, you’re done with that one.

      7. at this boot you'll be prompted for persistence settings
      8. apt install -y openssl ca-certificates

      Stats (approximate, I’ve added a couple other packages): 284 packages, 207M disk space, 92M RAM, 155 processes, 29 services

      [edit: use “code” tag to preserve double-dash]

      • This reply was modified 3 years, 11 months ago by smolin.
      #22736
      Member
      mahdizm

        Hello,first thing first i am a noob in linux world so i need your help guys
        I need to use my pc running antix as a NAS and also a vpn router at the same time so i could connect it from work to my vpn server at home and make other devices to pass traffic trough the pc antix which connects to my vpn server at home using openvpn and also i need to be able to connect to my antix using SSH and vnc/rdp and also i need all of these tasks to be auto started so when ever i restart my antix pc all of programs and services auto start

        #22370

        In reply to: Noob questions

        Forum Admin
        SamK

          …some YT video youtuber says that antiX dont run from RAM…

          That is incorrect. Investigate running antiX in live mode. The easist way is to boot from USB stick or DVD and select the appropriate option at the boot screen. If you need local storage antiX provides a way to create a bootable antiX stick that includes the OS with storage space for data files.

          …can someone point me on how to stop GUI from running…

          When booting in live mode append the number 3 as the last parameter on the boot screen options field.

          Im plannig use it as ad blocker to put list of blocked AD domains so it can faster filter domains.

          antiX provides an app to do this on a local system. Have a look at Adblock which might give some ideas.

          …use only SSH to manage “server”?

          antiX provides an app named SSH-Conduit which does this and much more including what RDP does. Have a look at this overview.
          https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/ssh-conduit-suite/
          More information is available:
          FAQ
          http://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-17/FAQ/index.html
          Videos
          https://www.youtube.com/user/runwiththedolphin

          #22362

          Topic: Noob questions

          in forum Software
          Member
          worker0

            Helloo everyone,
            I try antiX in VM and fall in love. So simple, so fast and lightweight.
            Im trying to make litle project – network ad blocker. And antiX is perfect for it. Only about 60-70 MB of RAM 😀
            Now can someone point me on how to stop GUI from running after I set everything up. Can I at all stop GUI from starting each time “server” restarts? And how do I enable SSH and RDP? If I disable GUI from autostart, I login to machine via SSH, then I can start GUI and use RDP, after finish again stop GUI and use only SSH to manage “server”? Is it possible to make shared folder on network from antiX, to put my logs in so I dont need to SSH each time I need logs? And on some YT video youtuber says that antiX dont run from RAM disk like Puppy linux. On boot list i seen ramdisk or something else to initialize or Im wrong? I would like to make ramdisk since Im plannig use it as ad blocker to put list of blocked AD domains so it can faster filter domains.

            Member
            oops

              Good tuto manyroads.
              I did some changes too here for a multi-users ability, but without XFCE, iceWM is nice too.
              lightdm , lightdm-gtk-greeter , lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings , ~/.xsessionrc

              #!/bin/sh
              #
              #http://blog.rnstlr.ch/switching-from-slim-to-lightdm.html
              #http://blog.rnstlr.ch/setting-up-the-awesome-window-manager-in-ubuntu-1604.html
              # sudo apt install awesome
              # ~/.xsessionrc
              #
              case $1 in
              awesome)
              #    export $(gnome-keyring-daemon -s -c pkcs11,secrets,ssh,gpg)
                  ;;
              esac
              bash /home/$USER/.desktop-session/startup_for_lightdm &
              #21788
              Member
              kaye

                Hey guys,

                2.1 TaskBarShowCPUStatus=1 does not show the temperature of the CPU, like the Core 0 and Core 1 thing that psensor shows.
                CPUStatusShowAcpiTemp = 1 as well as ColorCPUStatusTemp = "rgb:60/60/C0" don’t seem to help.
                I’m content with using psensor though.

                2.2 There’s a program that I downloaded which is a tar.xz file. I right-click it, open with Archive Manager, extract the folder inside to the same directory as the tar.xz file, and then went on to execute the program which is inside that folder.

                tar.xz –> folder –> executable file

                I get this message:

                Failed to add a plugin to the panel. No running instance of Xfce4-panel was found.

                I get that message regardless if I’m in IceWM (window manager) or Xfce (desktop environment).

                I tried to delete /home/user/.cache but no luck.

                2.3 Also, what does this mean? ColorDefaultTaskBar="rgb:C0/C0/C0"
                Does taskbar mean panel, where the sound icon and menu icon is located?
                I looked up C0C0C0 in GIMP, it shows a gray color. The color of the default panel is also gray, but with a gradient effect. If I change C0/C0/C0 to 00/00/ff, why doesn’t anything happen?

                Thank you very much.

                • This reply was modified 3 years, 12 months ago by kaye.
                #21276
                Member
                ile

                  hello anticapitalista
                  spacefm right click preferences window stays behind other windows; in alpha1 it was possible to change desktop wallpaper with it. in 19alpha2 the spacefm right-click>Desktop Settings preferences window >Desktop tab does not change wallpaper.
                  slim ONE login, connman, Arandr, sound work in 2 here. it did in 1 already on this machine. good slim fix. Applications >Graphics >Screenshot closes some windows upon save the screencapture; feh windows always disappear. (maybe others with more tests.) oh, how synaptic shows repositories has changed. i have seen that style somewhere before. thanks for keeping synaptic running if this is what it takes in buster. I realize that there is cited two things here, Choose Wallpaper and Repo Manager, that the usage access pattern is shifted to Control Centre. spacefm-fluxbox antiX 19alpha2 ; installed.

                  228.0 KiB + 51.0 KiB = 279.0 KiB gpm
                  296.0 KiB + 47.5 KiB = 343.5 KiB acpid
                  260.0 KiB + 95.5 KiB = 355.5 KiB cron
                  284.0 KiB + 82.5 KiB = 366.5 KiB init
                  332.0 KiB + 164.0 KiB = 496.0 KiB dbus-launch
                  380.0 KiB + 155.5 KiB = 535.5 KiB irqbalance
                  488.0 KiB + 59.0 KiB = 547.0 KiB rpc.idmapd
                  356.0 KiB + 271.5 KiB = 627.5 KiB udevil
                  452.0 KiB + 195.5 KiB = 647.5 KiB rpcbind
                  348.0 KiB + 590.0 KiB = 938.0 KiB avahi-daemon (2)
                  660.0 KiB + 454.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB devmon
                  880.0 KiB + 242.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB rpc.statd
                  700.0 KiB + 439.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB desktop-session
                  356.0 KiB + 790.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB saned (2)
                  596.0 KiB + 589.0 KiB = 1.2 MiB gconfd-2
                  744.0 KiB + 472.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB dbus-daemon (2)
                  820.0 KiB + 521.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (6)
                  1.4 MiB + 88.0 KiB = 1.5 MiB elogind-daemon
                  1.2 MiB + 336.0 KiB = 1.5 MiB sudo
                  1.4 MiB + 232.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB sshd
                  1.5 MiB + 252.0 KiB = 1.7 MiB connmand
                  1.5 MiB + 463.0 KiB = 1.9 MiB bash
                  1.4 MiB + 603.0 KiB = 1.9 MiB gnome-keyring-daemon
                  1.9 MiB + 89.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB rsyslogd
                  1.9 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 3.0 MiB cupsd
                  2.6 MiB + 576.0 KiB = 3.2 MiB wpa_supplicant
                  1.4 MiB + 1.9 MiB = 3.4 MiB gksu
                  3.2 MiB + 563.0 KiB = 3.7 MiB udevd
                  5.1 MiB + 34.5 KiB = 5.1 MiB haveged
                  4.3 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 5.7 MiB fluxbox
                  2.7 MiB + 3.5 MiB = 6.2 MiB volumeicon
                  17.5 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 18.8 MiB slim
                  20.1 MiB + 8.2 MiB = 28.3 MiB Xorg
                  24.9 MiB + 5.1 MiB = 30.0 MiB lxterminal
                  31.9 MiB + 10.6 MiB = 42.6 MiB spacefm
                  ———————————
                  175.3 MiB

                  • This reply was modified 4 years ago by ile.
                  #21089
                  Member
                  oops

                    Thank you Dave for these accurate information, I will do some tests and try to keep Slim (only 9MB – slim)(at least= 9MB+5MB- lightdm),

                    
                    echo "------------------------------------" && mem=0 && while read -r rss comm ; do mbs=$((rss/1024)); mem=$((mbs + mem)); echo $mbs"MB - $comm"; done <<< "$(ps -u $USER -wo rss=,comm= --sort -rss)" && echo "------------------------------------" && echo $mem"MB: Memory used by user '$USER'"
                    ------------------------------------
                    26MB - Xorg
                    9MB - slim
                    6MB - cupsd
                    5MB - console-kit-dae
                    5MB - polkitd
                    4MB - bash
                    3MB - haveged
                    ...
                    
                    FOR MX18 ( at least= 9MB+5MB- lightdm:
                    echo "------------------------------------" && mem=0 && while read -r rss comm ; do mbs=$((rss/1024)); mem=$((mbs + mem)); echo $mbs"MB - $comm"; done <<< "$(ps -u $USER -wo rss=,comm= --sort -rss)" && echo "------------------------------------" && echo $mem"MB: Memory used by user '$USER'"
                    ------------------------------------
                    32MB - Xorg
                    13MB - smbd
                    12MB - NetworkManager
                    10MB - ModemManager
                    9MB - cups-browsed
                    9MB - udisksd
                    9MB - polkitd
                    9MB - lightdm
                    7MB - lpqd
                    7MB - cupsd
                    7MB - upowerd
                    6MB - bash
                    5MB - lightdm
                    5MB - accounts-daemon
                    5MB - nmbd
                    5MB - smbd-notifyd
                    4MB - su
                    4MB - wpa_supplicant
                    4MB - bluetoothd
                    4MB - cleanupd
                    4MB - haveged
                    3MB - systemd-logind
                    3MB - rsyslogd
                    3MB - dhclient
                    3MB - ps
                    2MB - systemd-udevd
                    2MB - cgmanager
                    2MB - cron
                    1MB - rpcbind
                    1MB - getty
                    1MB - init
                    ...
                    

                    … Or maybe just as a workaround, to show at the login slim prompt, the list of the available users.

                    cat /etc/passwd | grep “:/bin/bash” | sort | cut -d: -f1
                    User1
                    User2
                    User3

                    PS: Slim is interesting into antiX, because only few process are actives :

                    
                    inxi -Sxxx
                    System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 5.0.0 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 
                               info: icewmtray dm: SLiM 1.3.4 Distro: antiX-17.4.1_386-full Helen Keller 28 March 2019 
                               base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch) 
                    
                    pgrep -ox slim | xargs pstree -p
                    slim(2349)─┬─Xorg(2357)───{InputThread}(2428)
                               └─desktop-session(2655)───icewm-session(2703)─┬─icewm(2708)───nemo(4539)─┬─{dconf worker}(+
                                                                             │                          ├─{gdbus}(4542)
                                                                             │                          ├─{gmain}(4541)
                                                                             │                          └─{pool}(5068)
                                                                             ├─icewmbg(2707)
                                                                             └─icewmtray(2718)

                    … Compared to Lightdm

                    pgrep -ox lightdm | xargs pstree -p
                    lightdm(2825)─┬─Xorg(2915)───{InputThread}(3034)
                                  ├─lightdm(3269)─┬─sh(4643)─┬─ssh-agent(4717)
                                  │               │          └─xfce4-session(4727)───xfce4-session(4728)─┬─applet.py(4805)───{gmain}(4+
                                  │               │                                                      ├─clipit(4784)─┬─{gdbus}(4842+
                                  │               │                                                      │              └─{gmain}(4832+
                                  │               ├─{gdbus}(4627)
                                  │               └─{gmain}(4626)
                                  ├─{gdbus}(2852)
                                  └─{gmain}(2838)
                    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by oops.
                    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by oops.
                    • This reply was modified 4 years ago by oops.
                    #21067
                    Member
                    ile

                      hello anticapitalista
                      no problem. connman, sound, live-usb-maker to install, best installer in the business, Madonna on SMTube, enjoying the lighter side of spacefm-fluxbox alpha flawless 19. a quick antiX. Thank you for Marielle Franco. A Firefox custom anticapitalista! menu link might be for the youtube watch?v=MHkOB_aQ250 “Glory Eyes” by Arro Verse; there is three versions of the song on youtube, pick your favorite one.
                      – if subtract from this glances, appfinder, gksu, sudo, moonclock = 203MiB – – then minus terminal , minus connman/wpa =148.6MiB —
                      228.0 KiB + 41.0 KiB = 269.0 KiB gpm
                      264.0 KiB + 86.5 KiB = 350.5 KiB cron
                      288.0 KiB + 66.5 KiB = 354.5 KiB init
                      452.0 KiB + 44.5 KiB = 496.5 KiB acpid
                      376.0 KiB + 128.5 KiB = 504.5 KiB irqbalance
                      484.0 KiB + 51.0 KiB = 535.0 KiB rpc.idmapd
                      348.0 KiB + 223.5 KiB = 571.5 KiB udevil
                      460.0 KiB + 183.5 KiB = 643.5 KiB rpcbind
                      532.0 KiB + 326.0 KiB = 858.0 KiB xfconfd
                      644.0 KiB + 271.0 KiB = 915.0 KiB dbus-launch (2)
                      472.0 KiB + 545.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB avahi-daemon (2)
                      608.0 KiB + 412.0 KiB = 1.0 MiB gconfd-2
                      644.0 KiB + 392.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB devmon
                      884.0 KiB + 220.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB rpc.statd
                      372.0 KiB + 755.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB saned (2)
                      748.0 KiB + 444.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB desktop-session
                      944.0 KiB + 299.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB wmmoonclock
                      816.0 KiB + 487.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (6)
                      1.1 MiB + 269.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB sudo
                      1.5 MiB + 73.0 KiB = 1.5 MiB elogind-daemon
                      1.3 MiB + 239.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB sshd
                      1.0 MiB + 777.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB polkitd
                      1.4 MiB + 455.0 KiB = 1.8 MiB bash
                      1.7 MiB + 209.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB connmand
                      1.4 MiB + 518.0 KiB = 1.9 MiB dbus-daemon (3)
                      1.9 MiB + 80.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB rsyslogd
                      2.0 MiB + 834.0 KiB = 2.8 MiB cupsd
                      2.7 MiB + 377.5 KiB = 3.0 MiB dconf-service
                      3.2 MiB + 30.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged
                      3.3 MiB + 395.5 KiB = 3.6 MiB udevd
                      1.9 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 3.7 MiB gksu
                      3.9 MiB + 637.5 KiB = 4.5 MiB console-kit-daemon
                      3.5 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 4.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
                      4.0 MiB + 953.0 KiB = 4.9 MiB slim
                      5.4 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 6.5 MiB fluxbox
                      10.1 MiB + 3.6 MiB = 13.7 MiB xfce4-appfinder
                      11.5 MiB + 4.1 MiB = 15.6 MiB volumeicon
                      14.6 MiB + 5.6 MiB = 20.2 MiB x-terminal-emul
                      22.0 MiB + 3.7 MiB = 25.7 MiB Xorg
                      19.7 MiB + 7.9 MiB = 27.6 MiB connman-gtk
                      27.6 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 29.0 MiB glances
                      49.3 MiB + 5.8 MiB = 55.1 MiB spacefm
                      ———————————
                      252.0 MiB

                      #20954
                      Member
                      ex_Koo

                        Skidoo

                        Whats with browsers why do they use so much memory even qutebrowser uses 304mb

                        `┏>>>{Wed May 01 05:54 PM}0:233 4
                        ┗>>>koo@debian10 ~ 29 files = 1008K ~ >$sudo ps_mem
                        Private + Shared = RAM used Program

                        112.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 161.5 KiB sleep
                        188.0 KiB + 25.5 KiB = 213.5 KiB acpid
                        304.0 KiB + 39.5 KiB = 343.5 KiB agetty
                        332.0 KiB + 82.5 KiB = 414.5 KiB cron
                        380.0 KiB + 71.5 KiB = 451.5 KiB rtkit-daemon
                        356.0 KiB + 206.0 KiB = 562.0 KiB sh (4)
                        500.0 KiB + 118.5 KiB = 618.5 KiB irqbalance
                        712.0 KiB + 18.5 KiB = 730.5 KiB ssh-agent
                        244.0 KiB + 576.5 KiB = 820.5 KiB urxvt
                        392.0 KiB + 670.0 KiB = 1.0 MiB avahi-daemon (2)
                        800.0 KiB + 295.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB at-spi-bus-launcher
                        776.0 KiB + 322.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB ibus-portal
                        904.0 KiB + 226.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB gconfd-2
                        792.0 KiB + 362.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB ibus-engine-simple
                        856.0 KiB + 322.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB ibus-dconf
                        920.0 KiB + 344.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB at-spi2-registryd
                        1.0 MiB + 234.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB sudo
                        1.0 MiB + 629.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB systemd-timesyncd
                        1.0 MiB + 635.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB alsactl
                        1.4 MiB + 290.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB gvfsd
                        1.3 MiB + 602.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB systemd-logind
                        1.7 MiB + 230.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB exim4
                        1.7 MiB + 304.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB ibus-daemon
                        1.4 MiB + 697.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB dunst
                        2.0 MiB + 166.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB systemd-udevd
                        2.2 MiB + 77.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB rsyslogd
                        1.9 MiB + 747.5 KiB = 2.7 MiB cupsd
                        2.6 MiB + 163.5 KiB = 2.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
                        2.5 MiB + 313.5 KiB = 2.8 MiB polkitd
                        2.1 MiB + 749.5 KiB = 2.9 MiB dbus-daemon (3)
                        2.1 MiB + 963.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB cups-browsed
                        2.0 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 3.1 MiB bash (2)
                        2.3 MiB + 848.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB transmission-daemon
                        3.2 MiB + 25.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged
                        2.3 MiB + 904.0 KiB = 3.2 MiB lightdm (2)
                        3.0 MiB + 321.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB dhclient
                        3.3 MiB + 29.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB mount.ntfs-3g
                        3.3 MiB + 602.5 KiB = 3.9 MiB systemd-journald
                        2.2 MiB + 2.2 MiB = 4.4 MiB ibus-x11
                        4.4 MiB + 459.5 KiB = 4.8 MiB ModemManager
                        4.3 MiB + 891.5 KiB = 5.2 MiB colord
                        2.8 MiB + 2.5 MiB = 5.2 MiB i3
                        5.4 MiB + 229.5 KiB = 5.6 MiB compton
                        5.1 MiB + 520.5 KiB = 5.7 MiB udisksd
                        5.0 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 6.3 MiB NetworkManager
                        4.1 MiB + 2.4 MiB = 6.5 MiB i3bar
                        4.3 MiB + 2.5 MiB = 6.7 MiB conky
                        4.1 MiB + 4.4 MiB = 8.4 MiB systemd (3)
                        9.3 MiB + 2.4 MiB = 11.7 MiB rxvt
                        9.1 MiB + 2.9 MiB = 12.0 MiB ibus-extension-gtk3
                        10.4 MiB + 3.1 MiB = 13.5 MiB pulseaudio
                        13.5 MiB + 4.8 MiB = 18.3 MiB ibus-ui-gtk3
                        22.2 MiB + 5.4 MiB = 27.6 MiB mpd
                        44.8 MiB + 772.5 KiB = 45.5 MiB Xorg
                        ———————————
                        255.3 MiB
                        =================================

                        ┏>>>{Wed May 01 05:53 PM}0:233 3
                        ┗>>>koo@debian10 ~ 29 files = 1008K ~ >$sudo ps_mem
                        Private + Shared = RAM used Program

                        112.0 KiB + 41.5 KiB = 153.5 KiB sleep
                        188.0 KiB + 24.5 KiB = 212.5 KiB acpid
                        304.0 KiB + 37.5 KiB = 341.5 KiB agetty
                        332.0 KiB + 81.5 KiB = 413.5 KiB cron
                        380.0 KiB + 68.5 KiB = 448.5 KiB rtkit-daemon
                        356.0 KiB + 202.0 KiB = 558.0 KiB sh (4)
                        500.0 KiB + 114.5 KiB = 614.5 KiB irqbalance
                        712.0 KiB + 18.5 KiB = 730.5 KiB ssh-agent
                        244.0 KiB + 568.5 KiB = 812.5 KiB urxvt
                        692.0 KiB + 294.5 KiB = 986.5 KiB gconfd-2
                        392.0 KiB + 665.0 KiB = 1.0 MiB avahi-daemon (2)
                        776.0 KiB + 287.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB ibus-portal
                        800.0 KiB + 269.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB at-spi-bus-launcher
                        784.0 KiB + 322.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB ibus-engine-simple
                        856.0 KiB + 288.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB ibus-dconf
                        920.0 KiB + 301.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB at-spi2-registryd
                        1.0 MiB + 232.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB sudo
                        1.0 MiB + 473.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB alsactl
                        1.0 MiB + 620.5 KiB = 1.6 MiB systemd-timesyncd
                        1.4 MiB + 266.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB gvfsd
                        1.3 MiB + 598.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB systemd-logind
                        1.3 MiB + 579.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB dunst
                        1.7 MiB + 215.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB exim4
                        1.7 MiB + 270.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB ibus-daemon
                        2.0 MiB + 164.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB systemd-udevd
                        2.2 MiB + 74.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB rsyslogd
                        1.9 MiB + 737.5 KiB = 2.6 MiB cupsd
                        2.6 MiB + 159.5 KiB = 2.7 MiB wpa_supplicant
                        2.4 MiB + 294.5 KiB = 2.7 MiB polkitd
                        2.1 MiB + 726.5 KiB = 2.8 MiB dbus-daemon (3)
                        2.1 MiB + 938.5 KiB = 3.0 MiB cups-browsed
                        2.0 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 3.1 MiB bash (2)
                        2.3 MiB + 846.5 KiB = 3.1 MiB transmission-daemon
                        2.3 MiB + 870.0 KiB = 3.2 MiB lightdm (2)
                        3.2 MiB + 24.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged
                        3.0 MiB + 320.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB dhclient
                        3.3 MiB + 28.5 KiB = 3.3 MiB mount.ntfs-3g
                        2.1 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 3.7 MiB ibus-x11
                        3.3 MiB + 598.5 KiB = 3.9 MiB systemd-journald
                        2.7 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 4.5 MiB i3
                        4.3 MiB + 206.5 KiB = 4.5 MiB compton
                        4.4 MiB + 446.5 KiB = 4.8 MiB ModemManager
                        4.3 MiB + 829.5 KiB = 5.1 MiB colord
                        5.1 MiB + 501.5 KiB = 5.6 MiB udisksd
                        4.1 MiB + 1.7 MiB = 5.8 MiB i3bar
                        5.0 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 6.3 MiB NetworkManager
                        4.3 MiB + 2.2 MiB = 6.5 MiB conky
                        4.1 MiB + 4.4 MiB = 8.4 MiB systemd (3)
                        8.9 MiB + 2.0 MiB = 10.9 MiB ibus-extension-gtk3
                        9.1 MiB + 1.9 MiB = 10.9 MiB rxvt
                        10.3 MiB + 2.7 MiB = 13.1 MiB pulseaudio
                        11.6 MiB + 3.9 MiB = 15.5 MiB ibus-ui-gtk3
                        22.2 MiB + 5.0 MiB = 27.2 MiB mpd
                        44.7 MiB + 13.7 MiB = 58.4 MiB Xorg
                        449.3 MiB + 178.2 MiB = 627.5 MiB waterfox (2) <<<<280.1 MiB + 24.3 MiB = 304.3 MiB qutebrowser with half the memory usage
                        ———————————
                        885.8 MiB
                        =================================

                        #20925
                        Member
                        manyroads

                          @skidoo here you are…

                          Private + Shared = RAM used Program

                          112.0 KiB + 59.5 KiB = 171.5 KiB sleep
                          228.0 KiB + 40.0 KiB = 268.0 KiB gpm
                          264.0 KiB + 81.5 KiB = 345.5 KiB cron
                          296.0 KiB + 64.5 KiB = 360.5 KiB init
                          368.0 KiB + 40.5 KiB = 408.5 KiB acpid
                          240.0 KiB + 243.5 KiB = 483.5 KiB bamfdaemon-dbus
                          368.0 KiB + 122.5 KiB = 490.5 KiB dbus-launch
                          484.0 KiB + 52.0 KiB = 536.0 KiB rpc.idmapd
                          364.0 KiB + 252.5 KiB = 616.5 KiB udevil
                          476.0 KiB + 167.5 KiB = 643.5 KiB rpcbind
                          636.0 KiB + 220.5 KiB = 856.5 KiB devmon
                          396.0 KiB + 549.5 KiB = 945.5 KiB avahi-daemon (2)
                          744.0 KiB + 333.5 KiB = 1.1 MiB dconf-service
                          880.0 KiB + 217.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB rpc.statd
                          364.0 KiB + 758.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB saned (2)
                          1.0 MiB + 93.0 KiB = 1.1 MiB VBoxService
                          812.0 KiB + 471.0 KiB = 1.3 MiB getty (6)
                          588.0 KiB + 767.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB desktop-session (2)
                          952.0 KiB + 406.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB dbus-daemon (2)
                          1.2 MiB + 280.5 KiB = 1.4 MiB sshd
                          1.2 MiB + 266.0 KiB = 1.5 MiB sudo
                          1.5 MiB + 74.0 KiB = 1.5 MiB elogind-daemon
                          1.2 MiB + 383.0 KiB = 1.6 MiB gnome-keyring-daemon
                          1.5 MiB + 206.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB connmand
                          1.1 MiB + 568.0 KiB = 1.7 MiB compton
                          1.6 MiB + 73.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB rsyslogd
                          1.1 MiB + 829.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB polkitd
                          1.6 MiB + 383.5 KiB = 2.0 MiB bluetoothd
                          1.9 MiB + 575.5 KiB = 2.5 MiB console-kit-daemon
                          2.3 MiB + 713.0 KiB = 3.0 MiB bash (3)
                          2.5 MiB + 537.0 KiB = 3.0 MiB udevd
                          2.6 MiB + 546.0 KiB = 3.1 MiB wpa_supplicant
                          3.2 MiB + 28.5 KiB = 3.2 MiB haveged
                          2.3 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 3.3 MiB cupsd
                          3.7 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 4.8 MiB conky
                          4.0 MiB + 918.0 KiB = 4.9 MiB slim
                          3.8 MiB + 2.5 MiB = 6.3 MiB tint2
                          5.5 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 7.1 MiB volumeicon
                          7.4 MiB + 3.2 MiB = 10.6 MiB jwm
                          13.3 MiB + 3.1 MiB = 16.4 MiB bamfdaemon
                          15.6 MiB + 4.6 MiB = 20.1 MiB lxterminal
                          18.9 MiB + 10.1 MiB = 28.9 MiB yad
                          24.6 MiB + 12.7 MiB = 37.4 MiB plank
                          52.0 MiB + 7.9 MiB = 59.9 MiB Xorg
                          ———————————
                          243.7 MiB
                          =================================

                          Pax vobiscum,
                          Mark Rabideau - http://many-roads.com
                          "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong." H. L. Mencken
                          dwm & i3wm ~Reg. Linux User #449130
                          20 Jan 2021 ~ "End of an Error"

                          #20775
                          Anonymous

                            re: where I do not have X installed

                            In case the results of the websearch queries suggested in my earlier post were too broad,
                            here’s another suggested query: “Xvfb linux remote”
                            ^—> leads to references like this one: (wikipedia.org) Xvfb#Remote_control_over_SSH

                            #20675

                            In reply to: Blank screen at boot

                            Member
                            zeh

                              Hi Jim,

                              Did you do “ls -l /usr/bin/sudo”?
                              Mine shows: “-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 157192 Jan 12 12:10 /usr/bin/sudo”

                              Following the previous posts I’ve searched a bit more and I’ve found that one, yes.

                              “ls -l /usr/bin/sudo” showed the version with incorrect permissions
                              I then did “chmod u+s /bin/sudo” (as per the instructions)
                              and “ls -l /usr/bin/sudo” again – it now showed the correct permissions (it looks like yours)

                              After this su is working fine (sudo was corrected before and also works fine) – no more “authentication failure”.

                              However, I still get a blank sreen at boot.
                              At the blank screen, Ctrl+Alt-F1 gives me the CLI with the boot info.

                              Visible part of the boot info:

                              [....] Starting session management daemon: elogind [   22.991661] cgroup:Cgroup2: unknown option "nsdelegate"
                              [   23.106731] elogind-daemon [1983]: New seat seat0. 
                              .
                              [OK] Starting mouse interface server: gpm.
                              [OK] Starting SMO IRQ Balancer: irqbalance.
                              [OK] Loading cpufreq kernel modules... done (acpi-cpureq).
                              [OK] CPUFreq Utilities: Setting ondemand CPUFreq governor... CPU0... CPU1... done.
                              [OK] Starting SANE Network scanner server: saned.
                              Starting X display manager: slim.
                              [OK] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd.
                              Applying Power save settings... done.
                              Setting battery charge thresholds... done.
                              [warn] VirtualBox Additions disabled, not in Virtual Machine... (warning).
                              [OK] Starting Network connection manager: wicd.
                              
                              Debian GNU/Linux buster/sid Sat2aX2 tty1
                              
                              Sat2aX2 login: axTest
                              Password:
                              Last login: Sun Apr 20 21:28:22 BST 2019 on tty1
                              No mail.
                              [84.482465] elogind-daemon[1983]: New session 2 of user axTest.
                              axTest@Sat2aX2:~

                              When I try “startx” I get:

                              startx
                              xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/axTest/.Xauthority
                              xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/axTest/.Xauthority
                              [EE]
                              Fatal server error:
                              [EE] Cannot open log file: "/home(axTest/.local/share/xorg/X.org.1.log"
                              [EE]
                              [EE]
                              Please consult the The X.org Foundation ....
                              [EE]
                              xinit: unable to connect to X server: Connection refused
                              xinit: server error
                              xauth: timeout in locking authority file: /home/axTest/Xauthority
                              axTest@Sat2aX2:~

                              When I do “sudo startx” I get a IceWM root session without the wallpaper. And when I try to log in into this forum I’m not able to enter my username or password. I just can’t type anything in the two boxes.

                              When I try to change to one of the other Desktops (rox-fluxbox, space-icewm, etc) the system just logs me out of the session and gives me the CLI back

                              When I update the system everything seems to go as usual except for some problem with /usr/bin/mandb

                              root@Sat2aX2:~
                              # apt-get upgrade
                              Reading package lists... Done
                              Building dependency tree       
                              Reading state information... Done
                              Calculating upgrade... Done
                              The following packages will be upgraded:
                                antix-libs bash packageinstaller-pkglist
                              3 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
                              Need to get 1,508 kB of archives.
                              After this operation, 1,024 B of additional disk space will be used.
                              Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
                              Get:1 http://ftp.gr.debian.org/debian testing/main amd64 bash amd64 5.0-4 [1,378 kB]
                              Get:2 http://repo.antixlinux.com/testing testing/main amd64 antix-libs all 0.6.15 [85.3 kB]                                                                  
                              Get:3 http://repo.antixlinux.com/testing testing/main amd64 packageinstaller-pkglist all 0.2.17 [45.0 kB]                                                    
                              Fetched 1,508 kB in 14s (104 kB/s)                                                                                                                           
                              (Reading database ... 274011 files and directories currently installed.)
                              Preparing to unpack .../archives/bash_5.0-4_amd64.deb ...
                              Unpacking bash (5.0-4) over (5.0-3) ...
                              Setting up bash (5.0-4) ...
                              update-alternatives: using /usr/share/man/man7/bash-builtins.7.gz to provide /usr/share/man/man7/builtins.7.gz (builtins.7.gz) in auto mode
                              (Reading database ... 274011 files and directories currently installed.)
                              Preparing to unpack .../antix-libs_0.6.15_all.deb ...
                              Unpacking antix-libs (0.6.15) over (0.6.13) ...
                              Preparing to unpack .../packageinstaller-pkglist_0.2.17_all.deb ...
                              Unpacking packageinstaller-pkglist (0.2.17) over (0.2.16) ...
                              Setting up packageinstaller-pkglist (0.2.17) ...
                              Setting up antix-libs (0.6.15) ...
                              Installing new version of config file /etc/sudoers.d/antixers ...
                              Processing triggers for man-db (2.8.5-2) ...
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/vi/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/vi/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/vi/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/cs/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/cs/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/cs/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/sr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/sr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/sr/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/sv/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/sv/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/sv/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/ru/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/ru/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/ru/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/zh_TW/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/zh_TW/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/zh_TW/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/fr.ISO8859-1/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/fr.ISO8859-1/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/fr.ISO8859-1/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/pt/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/pt/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/pt/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/fr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/fr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/fr/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/hr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/hr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/hr/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/fr.UTF-8/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/fr.UTF-8/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/fr.UTF-8/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/id/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/id/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/id/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/fi/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/fi/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/fi/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/pl/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/pl/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/pl/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/es/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/es/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/es/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/pt_BR/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/pt_BR/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/pt_BR/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/da/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/da/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/da/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/tr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/tr/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/tr/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/nl/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/nl/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/nl/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/ko/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/ko/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/ko/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/ja/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/ja/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/ja/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/de/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/de/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/de/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/it/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/it/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/it/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/zh_CN/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/zh_CN/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/zh_CN/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/hu/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/hu/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/hu/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/sl/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/sl/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/sl/4658: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't chmod /var/cache/man/oldlocal/CACHEDIR.TAG: Operation not permitted
                              /usr/bin/mandb: can't remove /var/cache/man/oldlocal/CACHEDIR.TAG: Permission denied
                              /usr/bin/mandb: fopen /var/cache/man/oldlocal/4658: Permission denied
                              Processing triggers for menu (2.1.47+b1) ...
                              root@Sat2aX2:~
                              # apt-get dist-upgrade
                              Reading package lists... Done
                              Building dependency tree       
                              Reading state information... Done
                              Calculating upgrade... Done
                              0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
                              root@Sat2aX2:~
                              # 

                              Trying to find something out of normal related to xauth, the only thing I could notice is the difference in size between the files .Xauthority of my Testing install (104 B) and of my Stable install (53 B). My blind guess is that there may be a problem with my /home/axTest/.Xauthority file. Its permissions are “r–- r– –– —”.

                              Thanks for trying to help,
                              Zeh

                              #20655
                              Anonymous

                                Is it even possible to transfer graphics images through the SSH session when only in the console?

                                Yes, it’s possible ~~ various solutions exist.
                                Suggested websearch queries: “linux ssh tunneling”, “linux ssh tunnel Xvfb”, x11vnc, TightVNC, TigerVNC…

                                #20626
                                Member
                                seaken64

                                  I have installed a text only version of antiX-17.4.1 Core and have been learning a lot about what the console has to offer. I have setup the mouse and I have been able to use the framebuffer for graphics viewing using programs like fbi and links2.

                                  Today I learned how to use SSH to login remotely. And I have used screen and tmux to share the terminal between two computers. But I have noticed that I cannot use tmux or the SSH session to see any graphics. I can sit in front of the computer and see graphics when using programs like fbi and links2. But If I try to use an SSH session from another computer on my LAN I cannot use these programs to view any graphics.

                                  Is it even possible to transfer graphics images through the SSH session when only in the console? I know I can transfer X but I do not have X installed on this system. I use text mode only and the framebuffer video shows graphics. Are there some settings that allow use of the framebuffer graphics through the SSH session?

                                  Thanks for any advice you can offer,

                                  Seaken64

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