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  • #98959
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    caprea

      A really well done look together with the wallpaper.In time running it from live usb with persist-all.antiX23 runs fast and stable (as always).

      Especially nice is that it is finally possible to use bluetooth for audio playback without installing the cumbersome pulseaudio.Installing pipewire made this possible now in bookworm.
      I first tried this with bluez-alsa-utils, which is installed by default, but /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/org.bluealsa.service does not exist.
      bluez-alsa-utils contains only systemd service file.
      After a lot of experimenting with creating runit service files, i decided to try pipewire which can be started from autostart and does not need an init.
      And pipewire until now works perfect.Just listening to my bluetooth speaker sound from firefox.
      I’m going install to harddrive now for further exploration. Many thanks for this beautiful and reliable OS.

      @Christophe, isn’t the start_sound_level tightly configured in desktop-session-conf ?

      @Sasa, For those who have the green screen until now they all had nvidia cards, did you try to boot with boot parameters like
      xorg=nouveau nouveau.modeset=1

      $ inxi -Fxz
      System:
        Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
          v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
          Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
          base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
      Machine:
        Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20AWS3RH00 v: ThinkPad T440p
          serial: <superuser required>
        Mobo: LENOVO model: 20AWS3RH00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO
          v: GLETA0WW (2.54 ) date: 08/27/2019
      Battery:
        ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.0 Wh (100.0%) condition: 36.0/56.2 Wh (64.1%)
          volts: 12.3 min: 10.8 model: SANYO 45N1769 status: full
      CPU:
        Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-4300M bits: 64 type: MT MCP
          arch: Haswell rev: 3 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 3 MiB
        Speed (MHz): avg: 2858 high: 3059 min/max: 800/3300 cores: 1: 2574
          2: 3058 3: 3059 4: 2743 bogomips: 20752
        Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
      Graphics:
        Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics
          vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen5.75
          bus-ID: 00:02.0
        Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
          unloaded: fbdev,vesa gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
        OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
          v: 4.6 Mesa 22.3.3 direct render: Yes
      Audio:
        Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio
          vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
          bus-ID: 00:03.0
        Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio
          vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
          bus-ID: 00:1b.0
        Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes
        Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 running: yes
      Network:
        Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T440p
          driver: e1000e v: kernel port: 3080 bus-ID: 00:19.0
        IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
        Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 03:00.0
        IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
      Bluetooth:
        Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
          bus-ID: 3-11:3
        Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter>
          bt-v: 2.1 lmp-v: 4.0
      Drives:
        Local Storage: total: 111.79 GiB used: 4.58 GiB (4.1%)
        ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Samsung model: SSD 750 EVO 120GB size: 111.79 GiB
      Partition:
        ID-1: / size: 9.82 GiB used: 4.58 GiB (46.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
        ID-2: /boot/efi size: 98.4 MiB used: 1.1 MiB (1.1%) fs: vfat
          dev: /dev/sda1
      Swap:
        ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 5.66 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
          dev: /dev/sda5
      Sensors:
        System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: 0.0 C
        Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
      Info:
        Processes: 171 Uptime: 4m Memory: 11.58 GiB used: 576.4 MiB (4.9%)
        Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1640 Shell: Bash
        v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.19
      
      • This reply was modified 3 months ago by caprea.
      • This reply was modified 3 months ago by caprea.
      #98954
      Member
      mcpderez

        I really like the new wallpaper.

        Connman Glitches

        When on the dialog to enter my wifi passphrase, the dialog is too narrow to show all of the content. In particular, the Cancel button at the bottom is only half there (captured on . A piece of label near WISPr mid-dialog is also truncated. The user should not need to scroll horizontally to use a dialog this size. The same thing happens on another laptop with 1366×768 (Thinkpad X230). The dialog in question is only 400px wide, so it should fit easily, at least in the horizontal direction.

        I also have trouble with the Connman System Tray not wanting to Minimize; nothing seems to happen after clicking the Minimize button on the bottom right. If I instead choose Exit, it will exit but I am still working on a sequence of events to reliably reproduce this one.

        Here are some specs from these two machines and a screenshot of the Connman dialog that is too narrow.

        Lenovo ThinkPad T61

        demo@antix1:~
        $ inxi -Fxz
        System:
          Kernel: 4.19.0-256-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
            v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup
            Yorum 3 February 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
        Machine:
          Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 64576PU v: ThinkPad T61
            serial: <superuser required>
          Mobo: LENOVO model: 64576PU serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO
            v: 7LET51WW (1.21 ) date: 08/22/2007
        Battery:
          ID-1: BAT0 charge: 64.9 Wh (91.7%) condition: 70.8/84.2 Wh (84.0%)
            volts: 12.5 min: 10.8 model: Panasonic 92P1133 status: charging
        CPU:
          Info: dual core model: Intel Core2 Duo T7500 bits: 64 type: MCP
            arch: Core2 Merom rev: B cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 4 MiB
          Speed (MHz): avg: 1696 high: 1840 min/max: 800/2201 boost: enabled cores:
            1: 1552 2: 1840 bogomips: 8777
          Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3 vmx
        Graphics:
          Device-1: NVIDIA G86M [Quadro NVS 140M] vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61
            driver: nouveau v: kernel arch: Tesla bus-ID: 01:00.0 temp: 52.0 C
          Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
            unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz
          API: OpenGL v: 3.3 Mesa 22.3.3 renderer: NV86 direct render: Yes
        Audio:
          Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61/R61
            driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
          Sound API: ALSA v: k4.19.0-256-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
        Network:
          Device-1: Intel 82566MM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo ThinkPad T61/R61
            driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: 1840 bus-ID: 00:19.0
          IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
          Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network
            driver: iwl4965 v: in-tree: bus-ID: 03:00.0
          IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
        Drives:
          Local Storage: total: 14.55 GiB used: 8.6 MiB (0.1%)
          ID-1: /dev/sda type: USB model: General USB Flash Disk size: 14.55 GiB
        Partition:
          Message: No partition data found.
        Swap:
          Alert: No swap data was found.
        Sensors:
          System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: 44.0 C gpu: nouveau temp: 52.0 C
          Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2536
        Info:
          Processes: 154 Uptime: 56m Memory: 1.91 GiB used: 1.06 GiB (55.2%)
          Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1625 Shell: Bash
          v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.24

        Lenovo Thinkpad X230

        $ inxi -Fxz
        System:
          Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
            v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup
            Yorum 3 February 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
        Machine:
          Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 2306CTO v: ThinkPad X230
            serial: <superuser required>
          Mobo: LENOVO model: 2306CTO serial: <superuser required>
            UEFI-[Legacy]: LENOVO v: G2ETA2WW (2.62 ) date: 09/12/2014
        Battery:
          ID-1: BAT0 charge: 40.1 Wh (62.1%) condition: 64.6/85.9 Wh (75.3%)
            volts: 11.3 min: 10.8 model: SANYO 45N1175 status: discharging
        CPU:
          Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-3210M bits: 64 type: MT MCP
            arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 3 MiB
          Speed (MHz): avg: 2636 high: 2814 min/max: 1200/3100 cores: 1: 2814
            2: 2533 3: 2465 4: 2735 bogomips: 19952
          Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3
        Graphics:
          Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Lenovo driver: i915
            v: kernel arch: Gen-7 bus-ID: 00:02.0
          Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
            unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
          API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 22.3.3 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB
            GT2) direct render: Yes
        Audio:
          Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 7
            driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
          Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes
        Network:
          Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e
            v: kernel port: 5080 bus-ID: 00:19.0
          IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
          Device-2: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
            bus-ID: 03:00.0
          IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
        Drives:
          Local Storage: total: 447.13 GiB used: 4.91 GiB (1.1%)
          ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST480HM000-1G5162 size: 447.13 GiB
        Partition:
          ID-1: / size: 431.16 GiB used: 4.91 GiB (1.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
        Swap:
          ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2
        Sensors:
          System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: 0.0 C
          Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2979
        Info:
          Processes: 144 Uptime: 24m Memory: 11.4 GiB used: 478.3 MiB (4.1%)
          Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1625 Shell: Bash
          v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.24
        • This reply was modified 3 months ago by mcpderez.
        • This reply was modified 3 months ago by mcpderez. Reason: Corrected model number
        #98913
        Moderator
        Brian Masinick

          Here with a “classic: Hewlett-Packard product: Desktop s5747c.
          I’m going to research this, but I suspect that this model is a derivative of the old Compaq desktop series, possibly the “Presario” line.
          Once I do some research, I’ll either confirm or correct that comment.

          Using our Alpha 1 image with my own downloaded image of Firefox, and I’ve installed this version –

          free -h
                         total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
          Mem:           3.6Gi       435Mi       2.5Gi       1.3Mi       954Mi       3.2Gi
          Swap:          5.5Gi          0B       5.5Gi
          root@antixalpha:~# ps_mem.py
           Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
          
          112.0 KiB +  24.5 KiB = 136.5 KiB	runit
          128.0 KiB +  27.5 KiB = 155.5 KiB	runsvdir
          148.0 KiB +  29.5 KiB = 177.5 KiB	svlogd
          144.0 KiB +  35.5 KiB = 179.5 KiB	seatd
          376.0 KiB + 138.5 KiB = 514.5 KiB	dbus-launch
          368.0 KiB + 289.5 KiB = 657.5 KiB	icewm-session
          356.0 KiB + 308.5 KiB = 664.5 KiB	udevil
          456.0 KiB + 212.5 KiB = 668.5 KiB	su
          684.0 KiB + 346.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	devmon
          812.0 KiB + 343.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	desktop-session
          720.0 KiB + 447.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
            1.1 MiB + 361.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	runsv (12)
          960.0 KiB + 583.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	getty (7)
          948.0 KiB + 852.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	sudo (2)
            1.7 MiB + 627.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udevd
            2.1 MiB + 669.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	conky
            2.7 MiB + 957.0 KiB =   3.6 MiB	bash (2)
            3.6 MiB + 324.5 KiB =   4.0 MiB	connmand
            3.5 MiB +   3.3 MiB =   6.8 MiB	volumeicon
            6.8 MiB + 627.5 KiB =   7.4 MiB	wpa_supplicant
            5.3 MiB +   2.5 MiB =   7.8 MiB	icewm
           11.8 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  13.3 MiB	slimski
           12.1 MiB +   4.9 MiB =  17.0 MiB	roxterm
           23.3 MiB +   3.8 MiB =  27.1 MiB	zzzfm
          118.8 MiB +   1.5 MiB = 120.4 MiB	Xorg
          ---------------------------------
                                  223.7 MiB
          =================================
          root@antixalpha:~# 
          
          inxi -b
          System:
            Host: antixalpha Kernel: 4.19.0-256-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
              Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
              Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
          Machine:
            Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: s5747c v: N/A
              serial: <superuser required>
            Mobo: PEGATRON model: 2A6C v: 5.00 serial: <superuser required>
              BIOS: American Megatrends v: 6.01 date: 09/29/2010
          CPU:
            Info: dual core AMD Athlon II X2 255 [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 800
              min/max: 800/3100
          Graphics:
            Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] driver: nvidiafb v: kernel
            Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: fbdev,nouveau
              unloaded: modesetting,vesa gpu: nvidiafb resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
            OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.3
          Network:
            Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet type: network bridge driver: forcedeth
            Device-2: Ralink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
          Drives:
            Local Storage: total: 698.64 GiB used: 5.82 GiB (0.8%)
          Info:
            Processes: 136 Uptime: 56m Memory: 3.6 GiB used: 1.32 GiB (36.5%)
            Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.19

          --
          Brian Masinick

          #98878
          Member
          marcelocripe

            Here is a very interesting and exciting surprise.
            Thank you very much anticapitalista.

            – – – – –

            Aqui está uma surpresa muito interessante e animadora.
            Muito obrigado anticapitalista.

            demo@antix1:~
            $ free -h
            total usada livre compart. buff/cache disponível
            Mem.: 942Mi 242Mi 392Mi 12Mi 455Mi 700Mi
            Swap: 0B 0B 0B
            demo@antix1:~
            $

            demo@antix1:~
            $ inxi -Fxz
            System:
            Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
            v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
            Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
            base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
            Machine:
            Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P5S800-VM v: Rev 1.xx
            serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 1022.001
            date: 05/11/2006
            CPU:
            Info: single core model: Intel Celeron bits: 64 arch: Netburst Smithfield
            rev: 9 cache: L1: 16 KiB L2: 256 KiB
            Speed (MHz): 2653 min/max: N/A core: 1: 2653 bogomips: 5306
            Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3
            Graphics:
            Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx
            PCIE VGA Display Adapter
            vendor: ASUSTeK driver: N/A bus-ID: 01:00.0
            Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: vesa
            unloaded: fbdev,modesetting gpu: N/A resolution: 800×600
            OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 15.0.6 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.3
            direct render: Yes
            Audio:
            Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC97 Sound
            vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.7
            Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes
            Network:
            Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
            vendor: ASUSTeK P5P800-MX Mainboard driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: e400
            bus-ID: 00:0b.0
            IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
            RAID:
            Hardware-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] RAID bus controller 180
            SATA/PATA [SiS]
            driver: sata_sis v: 1.0 bus-ID: 00:05.0
            Drives:
            Local Storage: total: 14.65 GiB used: 24.5 MiB (0.2%)
            ID-1: /dev/sdd type: USB model: N/A size: 14.65 GiB
            Partition:
            Message: No partition data found.
            Swap:
            Alert: No swap data was found.
            Sensors:
            Message: No sensor data found. Is lm-sensors configured?
            Info:
            Processes: 119 Uptime: 5m Memory: 942.5 MiB used: 272.4 MiB (28.9%)
            Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1625 Shell: Bash
            v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.19
            demo@antix1:~
            $

            #98874
            Moderator
            Brian Masinick

              You guys were colder than us a day or so ago and today it looks like you have very nice weather!
              Must be crazier than Michigan weather around Pecos, TX!

              We’re hovering just under 40 degrees now, though we did have a nice, sunny, but brisk day today. The sun was shining first thing this morning, something that didn’t happen more than 60 times a year with bright sunshine in some areas of Michigan, due to the number of lakes, streams, and major Great Lakes, which of course carry a lot of water, leading to a LOT of cloudy days!

              We have ocean, but it’s between four and five hours east of us, so it’s not a factor. We also have mountains, but most of them are hills around here, except one that nicely protects us, (in my opinion) from too many extremes – we’re NEAR it, but not ON it, so that also helps. To our North are higher elevations and they can get colder weather and more frequent snow; we haven’t had any snow at all this season and only ONE last season, so that is also nice.

              Also our weather was often warm, but rarely extreme over the past year, so it was a good year that way too.

              I’m thinking of pulling out one of my dinosaur desktop units and trying out the new Alpha version there.

              Weather report: pecos
              
                              Overcast
                     .--.     28(21) °F      
                  .-(    ).   ↙ 4 mph        
                 (___.__)__)  9 mi           
                              0.0 in      
              System:
                Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
                  v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 Distro: antiX-22_x64-full Grup Yorum 18
                  October 2022 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
              Machine:
                Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Candy v: 1.0
                  serial: <superuser required>
                Mobo: GOOGLE model: Candy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required>
                  UEFI: coreboot v: MrChromebox-4.18.1 date: 10/27/2022
              Battery:
                ID-1: BAT0 charge: 41.9 Wh (100.0%) condition: 41.9/44.5 Wh (94.2%)
                  volts: 12.9 min: 11.4 model: Samsung DELL XK status: full
              CPU:
                Info: dual core model: Intel Celeron N2840 bits: 64 type: MCP
                  arch: Silvermont rev: 8 cache: L1: 112 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
                Speed (MHz): avg: 1645 high: 2355 min/max: 500/2582 cores: 1: 2355 2: 936
                  bogomips: 8666
                Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
              Graphics:
                Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display
                  driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0
                Device-2: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo
                  bus-ID: 1-3:4
                Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
                  unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: i965 gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
                API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT)
                  direct render: Yes
              Audio:
                Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series High Definition Audio
                  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
                Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes
                Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no
              Network:
                Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0
                IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
              Bluetooth:
                Device-1: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
                  bus-ID: 1-4:6
                Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 2.1
                  lmp-v: 4.0
              Drives:
                Local Storage: total: 44.65 GiB used: 19.66 GiB (44.0%)
                ID-1: /dev/mmcblk1 vendor: Hynix model: HAG2e size: 14.68 GiB
                ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: PNY model: USB 2.0 FD size: 29.97 GiB
              Partition:
                ID-1: / size: 13.36 GiB used: 5.99 GiB (44.8%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/mmcblk1p2
                ID-2: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 274 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat
                  dev: /dev/mmcblk1p1
              Swap:
                ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 768 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
                  dev: /dev/mmcblk1p3
              Sensors:
                System Temperatures: cpu: 34.0 C mobo: N/A
                Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
              Info:
                Processes: 137 Uptime: 10m Memory: 3.76 GiB used: 1004.2 MiB (26.1%)
                Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1643 Shell: Bash
                v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.23
              

              Time to bring Lulus back inside while I screw around with bluetooth on this chromebook.

              --
              Brian Masinick

              #98846
              Member
              calciumsodium

                Here are my updated numbers with conky + free -h + ps_mem.py:

                antiX 21: Conky at baseline 165 Mb of RAM.

                $ free -h
                               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                Mem:           2.4Gi       172Mi       2.0Gi        66Mi       240Mi       2.0Gi
                Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
                jakersfan@antix1:~
                $ sudo ps_mem.py
                [sudo] password for jakersfan: 
                 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                
                184.0 KiB +  43.5 KiB = 227.5 KiB	acpid
                196.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 243.5 KiB	anacron
                212.0 KiB +  37.5 KiB = 249.5 KiB	gpm
                216.0 KiB +  61.5 KiB = 277.5 KiB	init
                312.0 KiB +  80.5 KiB = 392.5 KiB	cron
                364.0 KiB + 142.5 KiB = 506.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                472.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 508.5 KiB	rpc.idmapd
                440.0 KiB + 119.5 KiB = 559.5 KiB	rpc.statd
                512.0 KiB + 170.5 KiB = 682.5 KiB	rpcbind
                364.0 KiB + 340.5 KiB = 704.5 KiB	udevil
                352.0 KiB + 354.5 KiB = 706.5 KiB	icewm-session
                640.0 KiB + 440.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	devmon
                804.0 KiB + 433.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	desktop-session
                724.0 KiB + 583.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	redshift
                856.0 KiB + 536.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	getty (6)
                748.0 KiB + 672.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
                  1.6 MiB +  40.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	smartd
                  1.4 MiB + 319.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	ntpd
                  1.7 MiB +  88.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	elogind-daemon
                  1.5 MiB + 337.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	connmand
                  1.4 MiB + 471.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	bash
                  1.8 MiB +  53.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	rsyslogd
                  1.4 MiB + 511.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	sudo
                  2.6 MiB + 447.5 KiB =   3.0 MiB	udevd
                  3.2 MiB +  27.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	haveged
                  3.8 MiB + 955.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB	conky
                  4.9 MiB + 617.5 KiB =   5.5 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                  5.3 MiB +   2.6 MiB =   7.8 MiB	icewm
                  4.4 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   7.9 MiB	volumeicon
                  7.4 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   8.4 MiB	slimski
                  9.8 MiB +   5.3 MiB =  15.1 MiB	roxterm
                 17.3 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  18.9 MiB	Xorg
                 21.8 MiB +   3.8 MiB =  25.7 MiB	rox
                ---------------------------------
                                        124.2 MiB
                =================================
                jakersfan@antix1:~
                $ inxi -b
                System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1-8.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 
                           Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
                

                antiX 23 a1: Conky at baseline 182 Mb of RAM.

                $ free -h
                               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                Mem:           2.4Gi       356Mi       2.0Gi        65Mi       306Mi       2.1Gi
                Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
                jakersfan@antix1:~
                $ sudo ps_mem.py
                [sudo] password for jakersfan: 
                 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                
                112.0 KiB +  20.5 KiB = 132.5 KiB	runit
                132.0 KiB +  25.5 KiB = 157.5 KiB	runsvdir
                148.0 KiB +  34.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	svlogd
                148.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 184.5 KiB	seatd
                328.0 KiB + 147.5 KiB = 475.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                364.0 KiB + 284.5 KiB = 648.5 KiB	icewm-session
                364.0 KiB + 319.5 KiB = 683.5 KiB	udevil
                644.0 KiB + 419.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	devmon
                692.0 KiB + 447.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
                808.0 KiB + 425.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	desktop-session
                740.0 KiB + 508.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	redshift
                  1.1 MiB + 379.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	runsv (12)
                952.0 KiB + 609.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	getty (7)
                944.0 KiB + 815.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	sudo (2)
                  1.5 MiB + 463.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	bash
                  1.7 MiB + 649.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udevd
                  2.2 MiB + 602.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	conky
                  3.6 MiB + 291.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB	connmand
                  6.9 MiB + 638.5 KiB =   7.6 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                  5.9 MiB +   2.4 MiB =   8.2 MiB	icewm
                  5.1 MiB +   3.3 MiB =   8.5 MiB	volumeicon
                  7.4 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   8.9 MiB	slimski
                 11.4 MiB +   5.4 MiB =  16.8 MiB	roxterm
                 22.4 MiB +   4.1 MiB =  26.5 MiB	rox
                 61.4 MiB +   1.9 MiB =  63.3 MiB	Xorg
                ---------------------------------
                                        162.5 MiB
                =================================
                jakersfan@antix1:~
                $ inxi -b
                System:
                  Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1.9-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
                    Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
                    Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
                

                The RAM difference in Conky and ps_mem.py are not as dramatic as in the free -h method.

                #98844
                Member
                marcelocripe

                  Hello.
                  Olá.

                  ISO: antiX-23-alpha1-runit_x64-full.iso

                  System:
                  Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
                  v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
                  Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
                  base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
                  Machine:
                  Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP G42 NoteBook PC
                  v: 049D110000202710000010000 serial: <superuser required>
                  Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1484 v: 77.36 serial: <superuser required>
                  BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.31 date: 10/18/2010
                  Battery:
                  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 27.3 Wh (96.5%) condition: 28.3/47.5 Wh (59.6%)
                  volts: 12.4 min: 10.8 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: N/A
                  CPU:
                  Info: dual core model: Pentium T4500 bits: 64 type: MCP
                  arch: Penryn Yorkfield rev: A cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
                  Speed (MHz): avg: 2255 high: 2256 min/max: 1200/2300 cores: 1: 2256
                  2: 2255 bogomips: 9177
                  Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3
                  Graphics:
                  Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                  driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen5 bus-ID: 00:02.0
                  Device-2: Suyin HP Webcam-101 type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-4:3
                  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
                  resolution: 1366×768~60Hz
                  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG) v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.3
                  direct render: Yes
                  Audio:
                  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
                  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes
                  Network:
                  Device-1: Realtek RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                  driver: rtl8192se v: kernel port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
                  IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
                  Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet
                  vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
                  IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
                  Info:
                  Processes: 141 Uptime: 3m Memory: 3.74 GiB used: 448.4 MiB (11.7%)
                  Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1625 Shell: Bash
                  v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.19

                  demo@antix1:~
                  $ free -m
                  total usada livre compart. buff/cache disponível
                  Mem.: 3832 420 3118 53 562 3412
                  Swap: 0 0 0
                  demo@antix1:~
                  $

                  Conky displayed 181MB of RAM with no other windows open.
                  O Conky exibia 181 MB de memória RAM sem nenhuma outra janela aberta.

                  #98836
                  Member
                  calciumsodium

                    A comparison of memory at baseline of antiX21 and antiX23 a1 on the same computer. I tried to make both systems as similar to each other as possible: wallpaper, startup, etc.

                    For antiX21:

                    $ free -h
                                   total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                    Mem:           2.4Gi       145Mi       2.0Gi        66Mi       240Mi       2.1Gi
                    Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
                    jakersfan@antix1:~
                    $ inxi -b
                    System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1-8.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 
                               Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 

                    For antiX23a1:

                    $ free -h
                                   total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                    Mem:           2.4Gi       379Mi       1.9Gi        69Mi       310Mi       2.0Gi
                    Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
                    jakersfan@antix1:~
                    $ inxi -b
                    System:
                      Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1.9-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
                        Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
                        Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023

                    The difference is about 234 Mb of used ram at baseline.

                    #98810
                    Member
                    olsztyn

                      We are indeed using more memory in this version – straight from boot, on my Dell I’m using

                      $ free -h
                      total used free shared buff/cache available
                      Mem: 7.7Gi 457Mi 6.9Gi 52Mi 611Mi 7.3Gi
                      Swap: 8.0Gi 0B 8.0Gi
                      demo@antix1:~

                      I want to confirm Brian’s observation on much higher (almost 290M more) memory used reported by ‘free -h’ on freshly booted antiX 23 vs. antiX 22 runit.
                      I do not know what this really means for using ‘free -h’ as memory footprint measurement however and why it shows that much higher under antiX 23, because measuring footprint using Lxtask both antiX 22 and antiX 23 are very much comparable, where antiX 23 appears just slightly higher, by just a few Mb than antiX 22.
                      Just to note, a similarly much higher memory footprint is reported by ‘free -h’ on antiX/Bookworm/SID than on antiX 22. So I am not sure if so much higher memory footprint reported by ‘free -h’ is to be taken for the face value.
                      My testing is on Thinkpad T410, i5, 6Mb. Tested with kernel 5.10.

                      What I do notice – an additional process at-spi-bus-launcher seems to be running by default in antiX 23, which takes over 7Mb. I am not sure yet of the purpose of this process in antiX 23, especially because I do not see this process running in antiX/Bookworm.SID.

                      Aside from my above memory footprint observation:
                      – antiX 23 seems a head turner now, with the new wallpaper. Excellent. Huge initial impression.
                      – JWM default theme seems nicer than before, I think.
                      – No issues in operation so far…

                      • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by olsztyn.

                      Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                      https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                      #98802
                      Moderator
                      Brian Masinick

                        Comparing antiX 22 memory and antiX 23 Alpha with a 5 series kernel shows that the 5 series kernel uses less than the 6, (and as I said, 4 also uses less than 5 based on earlier tests) so antiX 22 overall definitely uses fewer resources.

                        free -h
                                       total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                        Mem:           7.7Gi       170Mi       7.2Gi        28Mi       276Mi       7.3Gi
                        Swap:          8.0Gi          0B       8.0Gi
                        [antix22]/home/masinick: >

                        --
                        Brian Masinick

                        #98801
                        Moderator
                        Brian Masinick
                          free -h
                                         total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                          Mem:           7.7Gi       204Mi       7.2Gi        35Mi       331Mi       7.2Gi
                          Swap:          8.0Gi          0B       8.0Gi
                          [antix22]/home/masinick: >

                          So antiX 22 and Legacy OS are similar, about 253 Mi less with antiX 22 compared to antiX 23 Alpha 1 on the same hardware.
                          I’m even using a newer kernel; I can compare older kernels and see if it’s similar; past tests showed using antiX with a 4 series kernel uses even fewer resources…

                          --
                          Brian Masinick

                          #98798
                          Moderator
                          Brian Masinick

                            Just to see how another distro that uses antiX does on the same hardware, here’s Legacy OS right after booting:

                            free -h
                                           total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                            Mem:           7.7Gi       209Mi       7.2Gi        40Mi       296Mi       7.2Gi
                            Swap:          8.0Gi          0B       8.0Gi
                            masinick@LegacyOS:~

                            I’ll do antiX 22 here too for comparison.

                            --
                            Brian Masinick

                            #98797
                            Moderator
                            Brian Masinick

                              We are indeed using more memory in this version – straight from boot, on my Dell I’m using

                              $ free -h
                                             total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                              Mem:           7.7Gi       457Mi       6.9Gi        52Mi       611Mi       7.3Gi
                              Swap:          8.0Gi          0B       8.0Gi
                              demo@antix1:~

                              The HP-14 running installed with a 6.1.9 kernel uses 300-320 Mi most of the time; it does vary between the xanmod1 and Liquorix kernel slightly, but it’s nearly 200 Mi smaller. That’s the price of the latest stuff I guess!

                              --
                              Brian Masinick

                              #98796
                              Moderator
                              Brian Masinick

                                I’m using a LOT of default memory because I specified the boot option ‘toram’:

                                free -h
                                               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                                Mem:           7.7Gi       2.0Gi       5.5Gi       1.6Gi       2.0Gi       5.7Gi
                                Swap:          8.0Gi          0B       8.0Gi
                                demo@antix1:~

                                I’ll reboot without this setting; I’m not finding any delay on my system as calciumsodium is experiencing.

                                --
                                Brian Masinick

                                #98773
                                Member
                                PPC

                                  ok. Just tried it live:

                                  *about my infernal login “bug”:
                                  -The issue I reported that happens in the installed antiX 19/22 here in this Dell desktop, happens when running antiX 23-a1 live:
                                  I boot (it’s the same on both kernels) to a desktop without conky, and nothing seems to work until I change desktop/restart IcewM. Just found a new think: at least here in antiX 23a1, things do run- I clicked, by mistake in the presentation video and I got the scare of my life when I started hearing a strange voice after some 5 seconds- it’s D.O.’s voice, from the video- nothing showed in the desktop, but the video was running!

                                  *about the looks:
                                  -Wow – great default wallpaper
                                  -Wow – great that the default icewm theme is the dark one, nice touch, having volume-icon set to white- it’s easy to see! Perfect
                                  -The new menu and toolbar layout seems more intuitive, less cluttered.

                                  *about zzzfm:
                                  -nice to have the usual bookmarks – but they don’t work on localized systems because they link to the english folder name: ex: /home/demo/documents, and not, in pt-pt /home/demo/documentos
                                  -nice to see “Recent files” got into the zzzfm default setting – it’s a nice little touch, since jwm and fluxbox do not have a “Recent files” menu entry.
                                  -“Restore” contextual menu should only show up in the trash folder (there’s an how-to do it, in the antix-23 suggestions thread, by me)
                                  -“Send to trash” contextual menu should not show up when in the trash folder
                                  -All this new zzzfm entries require, of course, localization- get ready, translation team!

                                  *Youtube video player fails to work
                                  *Wallpaper settings does not show the “no wallpaper” option
                                  *Recent files in Icewm menu seems to include the fix to show special characters! Yes!… but bobc’s updated scripts to manage that entry are not being used!
                                  *on “just icewm” desktop, rox is the default File Manager – it makes sense to swap it for zzzfm, on all desktops (even when it’s not running desktop icons)
                                  *”Modem manager”? Hum…
                                  * Still no compositor installed by default? If it’s not too heavy, I vote for including one – its not just eye candy- it fixes some video problems too
                                  * The sound, for some reason is way louder than on antiX 22! Yes- I can hear stuff fine on my tiny work speakers, was that by chance?
                                  * If possible, use the .desktop entries localized for antiX autoremove; chroot; user language; yad-color
                                  * Also, putting user language up for localization would be nice , if it’s not already (I did not see it)- if there’s a script worth localizing, it’s that one! 🙂

                                  *system resources: after playing with the OS, opening Firefox-esr, file manager, etc, and closing everything, 178M of RAM usage. Nice
                                  When using just the “icewm” desktop, it uses 159M of 8Gb

                                  *Suggestion (for any antix version, in fact):
                                  – in Control Panel, if CUPS is not installed, in printer settings, show a window warning users to install it, and if, disabled just run it, before showing the printer properties)
                                  – Maybe add an updated GUI script to set the page size, also in C.P.?
                                  – Include the suggestions I made in Package Installer, if possible (and the option to install the old antix wallpapers).
                                  – Add a GUI off-line .deb installer – doesn’t MX have it’s own deb-installer? Can it be used in antiX?
                                  – Add the updated antiX-updater script, maybe?
                                  – The script to connect to samba shares would be a nice addition, maybe? It only installs the dependencies at first run, so it takes just a few kb on the iso, and is right there in zzzfm, in case users need this feature.

                                  *Verdict:
                                  For a betaalpha, extremely nice and stable, from what I tested!
                                  The OS looks more slick, modern, easy to use, feature rich, just amazing, considering it uses way less than 200Mb of RAM

                                  P.

                                  • This reply was modified 3 months, 1 week ago by PPC.
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