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  • #104958
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    Brian Masinick

      After using the system a while and switching browsers, resource usage has increased slightly (for this system with plenty of resources):

      free -h
                     total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
      Mem:           7.1Gi       1.6Gi       3.2Gi        23Mi       2.6Gi       5.5Gi
      Swap:          7.8Gi          0B       7.8Gi

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      Brian Masinick

      #104951
      Moderator
      Brian Masinick
        free -h
                       total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
        Mem:           7.1Gi       1.4Gi       4.0Gi        14Mi       2.0Gi       5.7Gi
        Swap:          7.8Gi          0B       7.8Gi

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        Brian Masinick

        #104730
        Member
        flyingchap

          Hi Punranger, thank you for responding so quickly.

          Re kernel alternatives — no I haven’t, but only because you’re already over my head with that, a little: I’m pretty experienced with Linux in general, and on a range of distros, but I have always “swerved” ‘messing with kernels’ as I’ve always assumed that would take me into deep territory I’m not familiar with and would soon break something.

          **BUT am happy to try it if you can describe how to do it ? By all means please tell me the commands. [ As I mentoned I have Antix 19 on hand on same machine, in case relevant.]

          Re you mentioning experts, any mouse-driver specialist wisdom would also be appreciated — some of the debate in that ARCH forum I mentioned, had very knowledgeable types seeming to be using obscure commands to read real-time event logs of the mouse drivers and the like so see what they’re doing.. quite deep stuff. I don’t know if all distrols handle mice the same way, or if kernel differences can mean whole different driver setups. There seemed to be talk there of default drivers or overriding installer drivers etc and config associated, but as I said they aborted the dialogue before it was resolved. Sounded V similar to what I’m seeing.

          Just to add one bit of detail – at the heart of this effect, seems to be a “lag on mouse command”, in that as well as mouse movement variability, I find the left-click always seems to contain a small but significant, DELAY: if I click to (for example) put cursor on a given row of a document – it will always go there, but about ~~ 0.8 sec AFTER I click, not when I click. It’s so consistent that I’ve now started to autoadjust to it an instinctively “wait a moment” after such a moment before typing. SAME, when clicking to move focus – to move from a Console window to an application window for example. And all this happens on a nice fast i5 (which if i reboot to Antix 19 is PERFECT).

          IN THE MEANWHILE – output from the command you mentioned – thank you for that I’ve not met that command before..:

          $ inxi -zrv7
          System:
            Kernel: 4.9.0-326-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
              v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.0.1 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0
              Distro: antiX-22_x64-base Grup Yorum 19 October 2022
              base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
          Machine:
            Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 3680FBG v: ThinkPad X201
              serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
            Mobo: LENOVO model: 3680FBG serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO
              v: 6QET64WW (1.34 ) date: 02/24/2011
          Battery:
            ID-1: BAT0 charge: 2.5 Wh (100.0%) condition: 2.5/62.2 Wh (4.1%)
              volts: 12.5 min: 11.1 model: SANYO 42T4835 type: Li-ion serial: <filter>
              status: N/A
          Memory:
            RAM: total: 3.73 GiB used: 980.4 MiB (25.7%)
            RAM Report:
              permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
          CPU:
            Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5 M 520 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
              smt: enabled arch: Westmere rev: 5 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 3 MiB
            Speed (MHz): avg: 1699 high: 2400 min/max: 1199/2400 boost: enabled
              cores: 1: 1199 2: 1199 3: 2400 4: 1999 bogomips: 19151
            Flags: acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov
              constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept est flexpriority
              flush_l1d fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor
              msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pebs pge pni
              popcnt pse pse36 rdtscp rep_good sep smx ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2
              ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi vpid xtopology
              xtpr
          Graphics:
            Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo
              driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen5.75 ports: active: LVDS-1,VGA-1
              empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0046 class-ID: 0300
            Device-2: Lenovo Integrated Webcam type: USB driver: uvcvideo
              bus-ID: 1-1.6:5 chip-ID: 17ef:4816 class-ID: 0e02
            Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
              display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
            Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3200x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 846x285mm (33.31x11.22")
              s-diag: 893mm (35.15")
            Monitor-1: LVDS-1 mapped: LVDS1 pos: primary,left model: Lenovo 0x4011
              res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 125 size: 261x163mm (10.28x6.42")
              diag: 308mm (12.1") modes: 1280x800
            Monitor-2: VGA-1 mapped: VGA1 pos: right model: AOC F22 serial: <filter>
              res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102 size: 476x268mm (18.74x10.55")
              diag: 537mm (21.1") modes: max: 1920x1080 min: 640x480
            OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (ILK) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5
              direct render: Yes
          Audio:
            Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 5
              driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56
              class-ID: 0403
            Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-326-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
            Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no
          Network:
            Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e
              v: 3.2.6-k port: 1820 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10ea class-ID: 0200
            IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
            Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6200 driver: N/A bus-ID: 02:00.0
              chip-ID: 8086:4239 class-ID: 0280
            Device-3: TP-Link TL-WN823N v2/v3 [Realtek RTL8192EU] type: USB
              driver: rtl8192eu bus-ID: 1-1.1:3 chip-ID: 2357:0109 class-ID: 0000
              serial: <filter>
            IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter>
            IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
            IP v6: <filter> scope: link
            WAN IP: <filter>
          Bluetooth:
            Message: No bluetooth data found.
          Logical:
            Message: No logical block device data found.
          RAID:
            Message: No RAID data found.
          Drives:
            Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 297.72 GiB (63.9%)
            ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500LT012-1DG142 size: 465.76 GiB
              speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: SDM1 scheme: MBR
            Message: No optical or floppy data found.
          Partition:
            ID-1: / size: 91.11 GiB used: 17.59 GiB (19.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda7
              label: rootantiX22 uuid: 320500d3-4234-46ac-bce0-480f6bd19335
            ID-2: /media/240GB size: 219.9 GiB used: 198.02 GiB (90.1%) fs: ext4
              dev: /dev/sda4 label: 240GB uuid: dcca6886-267c-4543-be7e-e0ca4fb866a7
            ID-3: /media/Windows size: 83.06 GiB used: 82.11 GiB (98.9%) fs: ntfs
              dev: /dev/sda2 label: Windows uuid: B272B58272B54C3B
            ID-4: /media/mikeh/dell830_DATA size: 245.59 GiB used: 241.07 GiB (98.2%)
              fs: cifs dev: /dev/DELLac03_DATA
          Swap:
            ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.85 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -1
              dev: /dev/sda6 label: N/A uuid: e3899b21-925c-4c3d-827a-73b0dab729d5
          Unmounted:
            ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 5.85 GiB fs: ntfs label: System
              uuid: ECFCB367FCB32B2A
            ID-2: /dev/sda3 size: 1 KiB fs: <superuser required> label: N/A uuid: N/A
            ID-3: /dev/sda5 size: 58.28 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
              uuid: a279d843-62f3-45a8-ba93-160d71a20732
          USB:
            Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
              chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
            Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
              speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900
            Device-1: 1-1.1:3 info: TP-Link TL-WN823N v2/v3 [Realtek RTL8192EU]
              type: Network driver: rtl8192eu interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s
              power: 500mA chip-ID: 2357:0109 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
            Device-2: 1-1.3:4
              info: Upek Biometric Touchchip/Touchstrip Fingerprint Sensor
              type: <vendor specific> driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0 speed: 12 Mb/s
              power: 100mA chip-ID: 147e:2016 class-ID: 0000
            Device-3: 1-1.6:5 info: Lenovo Integrated Webcam type: Video
              driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 200mA
              chip-ID: 17ef:4816 class-ID: 0e02
            Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 3 rev: 2.0
              speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
            Hub-4: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0
              speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900
            Device-1: 2-1.2:3 info: HP HP 1000 USB Optical Mouse type: Mouse
              driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
              power: 100mA chip-ID: 03f0:2a41 class-ID: 0301
          Sensors:
            System Temperatures: cpu: 67.0 C mobo: 0.0 C
            Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3494
          Repos:
            Packages: apt: 1506
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/alessandro-strada-ubuntu-ppa-bionic.list
              1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/alessandro-strada/ppa/ubuntu xenial main
              2: deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/alessandro-strada/ppa/ubuntu xenial main
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
              1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
              1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
              1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
              1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
              2: deb http://security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
              1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
            Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/teams.list
              1: deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable main
            No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
          Info:
            Processes: 181 Uptime: 1h 15m wakeups: 3 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5
            default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4
            running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.19
          
          mikeh@antix22-X201:~

          THANK YOU – ALL ADVICE MUCH APPRECIATED.

          #104722

          In reply to: Window of App Select

          Member
          Robin

            I tried on two PC’s(laptop and desktop).
            But sadnely nothing changed in my system environments.

            This is really strange. For me the ampersand method works on two different hardware machines and two different antiX versions, two different kernels:

            Without ampersand, shot taken after moving around the windows:
            app-select

            Ampersand added, shot taken after moving around the windows:
            app-select with ampersand

            So maybe this is a question of localisation? My testings were done on „de” localised systems, and the ampersand works also on a live system booted to English language. So the question is:

            Does the issue show up for you still when adding the ampersand on an antiX 22 or 23 full, live booted to English language?

            Did you restart app-select after modifying the line in its config?

            Another chance is to modify the line as follows:

            Open in leafpad|coproc leafpad %p
            

            This should be enough already, but:

            Since app-select wouldn’t accept the default bash builtin „coproc” for some strange reason, if it is filed literally instead of the ampersand, you’ll need to apply additionally the following dirty hack:

            Create a text file /usr/lib/app-select/plugins/coproc and enter the following lines. Make sure to have an additional empty line at the end of the file.

            #!/bin/bash
            coproc "$@"
            
            

            Then set it’s permissions the way they are needed:
            sudo chmod 755 '/usr/lib/app-select/plugins/coproc'

            (711 is NOT sufficient, on contrary to what the info text found in app-select.conf reads, the file isn’t executed with 711 for some strange reason)

            This script will simply hand over the coproc instruction to bash, a simple task app-select should have done already on its own.

            Make sure app-select was closed and restarted completely after these modificatons.

            The Ampersand and the literal coproc method do work both for me on the two antiX machines, antiX 22 and antiX 23:

            inxi…

            System:
              Kernel: 5.19.0-0.deb11.2-686-pae arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                parameters: lang=de_DE tz=Europe/Berlin quiet splasht disable=lxF
              Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 wm: Blackbox dm: slimski v: 1.5.0
                Distro: antiX-21_386-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
            Machine:
              Type: Other-vm? System: Notebook product: RIM2000 v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
                Chassis: No Enclosure type: 1 serial: <superuser required>
              Mobo: Notebook model: RIM2000 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Phoenix v: RIM00F0A
                date: 05/27/2005
            Battery:
              ID-1: BAT0 charge: 60.7 Wh (100.0%) condition: 60.7/65.1 Wh (93.2%) volts: 16.7 min: 14.8
                model: ARIMA LI4403A type: Unknown serial: <filter> status: full
            Memory:
              RAM: total: 1.96 GiB used: 1.33 GiB (67.7%)
              RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
            PCI Slots:
              Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
            CPU:
              Info: model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 arch: M Dothan built: 2003-05 process: Intel 90nm
                family: 6 model-id: 0xD (13) stepping: 8 microcode: 0x20
              Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 1 smt: <unsupported> cache: 2 MiB note: check
              Speed (MHz): 800 min/max: 800/1733 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil core:
                1: 800 bogomips: 3457
              Flags: acpi apic bts clflush cmov cpuid cx8 de dts est fpu fxsr mca mce mmx msr mtrr nx pae
                pbe pge pse pti sep ss sse sse2 tm tm2 tsc vme
              Vulnerabilities:
              Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
              Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
              Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
              Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
              Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
              Type: retbleed status: Not affected
              Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
              Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
              Type: spectre_v2
                mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
              Type: srbds status: Not affected
              Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
            Graphics:
              Device-1: NVIDIA NV43M [GeForce Go 6600] vendor: Rioworks driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free:
                series: 304.xx status: legacy (EOL) last: release: 304.137 kernel: 4.13 xorg: 1.19 arch: Curie
                process: 90-130nm built: 2003-13 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: LVDS-1
                empty: TV-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0148 class-ID: 0300
              Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: nouveau unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
                alternate: nv gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
              Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1440x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 380x238mm (14.96x9.37") s-diag: 448mm (17.65")
              Monitor-1: LVDS-1 model: Seiko Epson 0x3847 built: 2006 res: 1440x900 hz: 60 dpi: 100
                gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.580 y: 0.341 green: x: 0.310 y: 0.549 blue: x: 0.153 y: 0.153
                white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 367x230mm (14.45x9.06") diag: 433mm (17.1") ratio: 16:10
                modes: 1440x900, 1152x864, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480, 720x400, 640x400, 640x350
              OpenGL: renderer: NV43 v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
            Audio:
              Device-1: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW High Definition Audio vendor: Rioworks
                driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:2668 class-ID: 0403
              Device-2: Philips s SAA7131/SAA7133/SAA7135 Video Broadcast Decoder vendor: Animation
                driver: saa7134 v: 0, 2, 17 bus-ID: 06:03.0 chip-ID: 1131:7133 class-ID: 0480
              Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.19.0-0.deb11.2-686-pae running: yes
            Network:
              Device-1: Marvell 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet vendor: Rioworks driver: sky2 v: 1.30 pcie: gen: 1
                speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: 2000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 11ab:4351 class-ID: 0200
              IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
              Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network driver: ipw2200 v: 1.2.2kmprq
                bus-ID: 06:08.0 chip-ID: 8086:4220 class-ID: 0280
              IF: eth1 state: up mac: <filter>
              IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
              IP v6: <filter> scope: link
              WAN IP: <filter>
            Bluetooth:
              Message: No bluetooth data found.
            Logical:
              Message: No logical block device data found.
            RAID:
              Message: No RAID data found.
            Drives:
              Local Storage: total: 151.75 GiB used: 83.79 GiB (55.2%)
              SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
              ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST9100823A size: 93.16 GiB block-size:
                physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: <unknown> type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 3.02 scheme: MBR
              ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk size: 58.59 GiB
                block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 8.01 scheme: MBR
              SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
              Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: PBDS model: DVD+-RW DS-8W1P rev: BD1B
                dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
              Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r state: running
            Partition:
              ID-1: /live/boot-dev raw-size: 58.54 GiB size: 57.54 GiB (98.29%) used: 9.04 GiB (15.7%)
                fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: antiX-Live-usb
                uuid: 862f493d-6951-444f-a3f6-734244b241e7
              ID-2: /media/ANTIX-UEFI raw-size: 49 MiB size: 48.2 MiB (98.43%) used: 5.4 MiB (11.1%)
                fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18 label: ANTIX-UEFI uuid: 4389-57D7
              ID-3: /media/_daten3 raw-size: 42.48 GiB size: 41.64 GiB (98.03%) used: 34.87 GiB (83.7%)
                fs: ext3 dev: /dev/sda7 maj-min: 8:7 label: /daten3 uuid: c1bc867a-ec28-436d-831b-e47f334471ce
              ID-4: /media/_daten4 raw-size: 3 GiB size: 2.89 GiB (96.20%) used: 2.03 GiB (70.1%) fs: ext3
                dev: /dev/sda8 maj-min: 8:8 label: /daten4 uuid: 556a43c4-118c-4bb5-baa2-7c997faea6da
              ID-5: /media/_home raw-size: 20 GiB size: 19.52 GiB (97.58%) used: 16.92 GiB (86.7%) fs: ext3
                dev: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5 label: /home uuid: 94021be3-c160-4166-a151-92ad72b26f9a
              ID-6: /media/antiX raw-size: 10 GiB size: 9.74 GiB (97.45%) used: 8.11 GiB (83.3%) fs: ext4
                dev: /dev/sda6 maj-min: 8:6 label: antiX uuid: a6852dda-0c34-4c4f-8efc-5d458cbaaeec
              ID-7: /media/antiX-Frugal raw-size: 8 GiB size: 7.79 GiB (97.43%) used: 6.54 GiB (83.9%)
                fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 label: antiX-Frugal
                uuid: 19eaea0e-493b-4007-8eff-f14aca40363f
              ID-8: /media/sda10 raw-size: 7.51 GiB size: 7.26 GiB (96.61%) used: 5.93 GiB (81.7%) fs: ext4
                dev: /dev/sda10 maj-min: 8:10 label: N/A uuid: 0eb91a9b-ea52-4f5b-9140-5a06f6f73d1d
              ID-9: /mnt/192.168.178.24/Arbeitsordner on 192.168.178.24 raw-size: N/A size: 151.78 GiB
                used: 145.05 GiB (95.6%) fs: cifs dev: /dev/Arbeitsordner
            Swap:
              Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
              ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.16 GiB used: 367.9 MiB (16.6%) priority: -2
                dev: /dev/sda9 maj-min: 8:9 label: N/A uuid: 2d151628-e6f1-4e23-a8a6-7820d17b8a14
            Unmounted:
              ID-1: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 1 KiB fs: <superuser required> label: N/A uuid: N/A
            USB:
              Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                class-ID: 0900
              Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                class-ID: 0900
              Device-1: 2-2:7 info: Pixart Imaging Gaming Mouse type: Mouse,Keyboard
                driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 093a:2533
                class-ID: 0300
              Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                class-ID: 0900
              Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                class-ID: 0900
              Device-1: 4-3:3 info: Alcor Micro Flash Drive type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage
                interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 200mA chip-ID: 058f:6387 class-ID: 0806
                serial: <filter>
            Sensors:
              System Temperatures: cpu: 68.2 C mobo: 58.0 C
              Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
            Repos:
              Packages: apt: 1882 lib: 894
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
                1: deb http: //ftp.halifax.rwth-aachen.de/mxlinux/packages/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
                1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
                1: deb http: //ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
                1: deb http: //ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
                2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
            Processes:
              CPU top: 5 of 162
              1: cpu: 26.0% command: yad pid: 3434 mem: 24.3 MiB (1.2%)
              2: cpu: 1.5% command: app-select started by: python3 pid: 2396 mem: 47.7 MiB (2.3%)
              3: cpu: 1.1% command: firefox-esr pid: 12989 mem: 451.1 MiB (22.4%)
              4: cpu: 0.9% command: xorg pid: 32724 mem: 49.8 MiB (2.4%)
              5: cpu: 0.8% command: gtkdialog pid: 3089 mem: 24.2 MiB (1.2%)
              Memory top: 5 of 162
              1: mem: 451.1 MiB (22.4%) command: firefox-esr pid: 12989 cpu: 1.1%
              2: mem: 117.2 MiB (5.8%) command: firefox-esr pid: 13088 cpu: 0.0%
              3: mem: 94.4 MiB (4.6%) command: firefox-esr pid: 15790 cpu: 0.0%
              4: mem: 88.4 MiB (4.3%) command: firefox-esr pid: 14815 cpu: 0.0%
              5: mem: 87.5 MiB (4.3%) command: firefox-esr pid: 13125 cpu: 0.0%
            Info:
              Processes: 162 Uptime: 35d 19h 41m wakeups: 5 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5
              tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.1.4-release inxi: 3.3.19
            System:
              Kernel: 6.1.10-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.0
                parameters: lang=de_DE quiet splasht disable=lxF
              Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0
                Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023 base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
            Machine:
              Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P7P55-M v: Rev X.0x serial: <superuser required>
                BIOS: American Megatrends v: 0903 date: 07/09/2010
            Battery:
              Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech MX Keys Wireless Keyboard serial: <filter>
                charge: Normal status: discharging
              Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Marathon Mouse/Performance Plus M705
                serial: <filter> charge: Normal status: discharging
            Memory:
              RAM: total: 7.76 GiB used: 7.15 GiB (92.1%)
              RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
            PCI Slots:
              Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
            CPU:
              Info: model: Intel Core i3 540 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Westmere gen: core 1 built: 2010-11
                process: Intel 32nm family: 6 model-id: 0x25 (37) stepping: 5 microcode: 0x2
              Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 tpc: 2 threads: 4 smt: enabled cache: L1: 128 KiB
                desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 512 KiB desc: 2x256 KiB L3: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
              Speed (MHz): avg: 1204 min/max: 1200/3067 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil
                cores: 1: 1204 2: 1204 3: 1204 4: 1204 bogomips: 24618
              Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 de
                ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept est flexpriority fpu fxsr ht lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr
                mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 pti rdtscp
                rep_good sep sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi vpid
                xtopology xtpr
              Vulnerabilities:
              Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
              Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
              Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable
              Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
              Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
              Type: retbleed status: Not affected
              Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
              Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
              Type: spectre_v2
                mitigation: Retpolines, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
              Type: srbds status: Not affected
              Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
            Graphics:
              Device-1: AMD Cedar [Radeon HD 5000/6000/7350/8350 Series] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: radeon
                v: kernel alternate: amdgpu arch: TeraScale 2 code: Evergreen process: TSMC 32-40nm
                built: 2009-15 pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: HDMI-A-1
                empty: DVI-I-1,VGA-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:68f9 class-ID: 0300
              Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
                gpu: radeon display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
              Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2048x1152 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 540x304mm (21.26x11.97") s-diag: 620mm (24.4")
              Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-0 model: PMO S321-IQSC serial: <filter> built: 2021
                res: 2048x1152 hz: 60 dpi: 74 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.655 y: 0.337 green: x: 0.322 y: 0.612
                blue: x: 0.153 y: 0.059 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 700x390mm (27.56x15.35")
                diag: 801mm (31.5") ratio: 16:9 modes: 2048x1152, 1920x1200, 1920x1080, 1920x1080i, 1600x1200,
                1680x1050, 1680x945, 1400x1050, 1600x900, 1280x1024, 1440x900, 1280x960, 1366x768, 1360x768,
                1280x800, 1152x864, 1280x768, 1280x720, 1024x768, 1024x576, 832x624, 800x600, 720x576,
                848x480, 720x480, 640x480, 720x400
              OpenGL: renderer: AMD CEDAR (DRM 2.50.0 / 6.1.10-antix.1-amd64-smp LLVM 15.0.6)
                v: 4.5 Mesa 22.3.3 direct render: Yes
            Audio:
              Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 5
                driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 class-ID: 0403
              Device-2: AMD Cedar HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5400/6300/7300 Series] vendor: ASUSTeK
                driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 01:00.1
                chip-ID: 1002:aa68 class-ID: 0403
              Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k6.1.10-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
              Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
            Network:
              Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: ASUSTeK M4A785/P7P55
                driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: c800 bus-ID: 02:00.0
                chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
              IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
              IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
              IP v6: <filter> scope: link
              WAN IP: <filter>
            Bluetooth:
              Message: No bluetooth data found.
            Logical:
              Message: No logical block device data found.
            RAID:
              Message: No RAID data found.
            Drives:
              Local Storage: total: 3.89 TiB used: 687.09 GiB (17.2%)
              ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Maxtor model: STM3250318AS size: 232.89 GiB block-size:
                physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: CC38
                scheme: MBR
              SMART Message: Unknown smartctl error. Unable to generate data.
              ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: SMI (STMicroelectronics) model: USB DISK
                size: 29.49 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1100
                scheme: GPT
              SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
              ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: EXTERNAL USB size: 3.64 TiB
                block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 5438 scheme: GPT
              SMART Message: A mandatory SMART command failed. Various possible causes.
              Message: No optical or floppy data found.
            Partition:
              ID-1: /live/boot-dev raw-size: 29.44 GiB size: 28.91 GiB (98.18%) used: 18.47 GiB (63.9%)
                fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: antiX-Live-usb
                uuid: 76ca61e0-47f8-4075-8448-e28989c3b64e
              ID-2: /media/ANTIX-UEFI raw-size: 49 MiB size: 48.2 MiB (98.43%) used: 12.3 MiB (25.4%)
                fs: vfat block-size: 512 B dev: /dev/sdb2 maj-min: 8:18 label: ANTIX-UEFI uuid: 2100-8C30
              ID-3: /media/Robert/sdc1-usb-TOSHIBA_EXTERNAL raw-size: 3.64 TiB size: 3.58 TiB (98.40%)
                used: 519.48 GiB (14.2%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33 label: N/A
                uuid: ade4760b-84fb-4bcf-8de6-2071af30fe8d
              ID-4: /media/homeantiX raw-size: 49.02 GiB size: 47.95 GiB (97.82%) used: 1.38 GiB (2.9%)
                fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda3 maj-min: 8:3 label: homeantiX
                uuid: e1991eba-59bf-4106-8a46-09b3ee0e94af
              ID-5: /media/rootantiX21 raw-size: 24.43 GiB size: 23.88 GiB (97.74%) used: 6.59 GiB (27.6%)
                fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 label: rootantiX21
                uuid: 9d2f9bb5-5d2f-4aad-96ed-12c96919bd8d
              ID-6: /media/sda4 raw-size: 155.27 GiB size: 151.78 GiB (97.75%) used: 137.28 GiB (90.4%)
                fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 label: N/A
                uuid: c48583c1-9e59-4d5b-9114-c6041479f9f7
            Swap:
              Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
              ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 3.91 GiB used: 3.87 GiB (99.2%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2
                maj-min: 8:2 label: swapantiX uuid: 57ab2d2d-e0e9-49e6-b8d0-d8bea277cf7c
            Unmounted:
              Message: No unmounted partitions found.
            USB:
              Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                class-ID: 0900
              Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
                chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900
              Device-1: 1-1.1:30 info: Toshiba America MQ04UBF100 type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage
                interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0480:0900 class-ID: 0806
                serial: <filter>
              Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                class-ID: 0900
              Hub-4: 2-1:2 info: Intel Integrated Rate Matching Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
                chip-ID: 8087:0020 class-ID: 0900
              Device-1: 2-1.7:3 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID
                driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 98mA
                chip-ID: 046d:c52b class-ID: 0300
              Hub-5: 2-1.8:4 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 100mA
                chip-ID: 05e3:0608 class-ID: 0900
              Device-1: 2-1.8.1:5 info: Silicon Motion - Taiwan (formerly Feiya ) USB DISK
                type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA
                chip-ID: 090c:2000 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
            Sensors:
              System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: 37.0 C gpu: radeon temp: 57.5 C
              Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1480 case-1: 1259
              Power: 12v: 12.26 5v: N/A 3.3v: 3.42 vbat: N/A
            Repos:
              Packages: apt: 2467 lib: 1287
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
                1: deb http: //repo.antixlinux.com/testing testing main nonfree nosystemd
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bookworm-backports.list
                1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
                1: deb http: //ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bookworm-updates main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
                1: deb http: //ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ bookworm main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
                2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ bookworm-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
                3: deb http: //ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
                4: deb http: //security.debian.org/ buster-security main contrib non-free non-free-firmware
              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
            Processes:
              CPU top: 5 of 327
              1: cpu: 100% command: ps pid: 1281386 mem: 3.82 MiB (0.0%)
              2: cpu: 38.0% command: yad pid: 1281352 mem: 31.2 MiB (0.3%)
              3: cpu: 18.3% command: mpv pid: 1012863 mem: 514.1 MiB (6.4%)
              4: cpu: 6.0% command: firefox-esr pid: 409502 mem: 717.1 MiB (9.0%)
              5: cpu: 5.9% command: xorg pid: 318412 mem: 85.3 MiB (1.0%)
              Memory top: 5 of 327
              1: mem: 717.1 MiB (9.0%) command: firefox-esr pid: 409502 cpu: 6.0%
              2: mem: 514.1 MiB (6.4%) command: mpv pid: 1012863 cpu: 18.3%
              3: mem: 391.2 MiB (4.9%) command: meld started by: python3 pid: 3926911 cpu: 0.3%
              4: mem: 293.4 MiB (3.6%) command: zzzfm pid: 3746556 cpu: 0.4%
              5: mem: 288.5 MiB (3.6%) command: firefox-esr pid: 545557 cpu: 0.1%
            Info:
              Processes: 327 Uptime: 34d 4h 4m wakeups: 6725 Init: runit v: N/A runlevel: 2 tool: service
              Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 alt: 12 Client: shell wrapper v: 5.2.15-release inxi: 3.3.19

            Hopefully you succeed also making it work properly on your devices. But in the end I reckon this is something which must be fixed in the app-select application.

            Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

            Member
            andfree

              Hi. Sometimes, when I have opened multiple tabs, Pale Moon crashes when I open this page in a new tab.

              $ palemoon
              Segmentation fault
              System:
                Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-486-smp arch: i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                  Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 Distro: antiX-21_386-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021
                  base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
              Machine:
                Type: Laptop System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite 2450 v: PS245E-03TE0-GK
                  serial: <superuser required>
                Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: Version A0
                  serial: <superuser required> BIOS: TOSHIBA v: Version 1.30 date: 03/20/2003
              CPU:
                Info: single core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 arch: Netburst Northwood
                  rev: 7 cache: 512 KiB note: check
                Speed (MHz): 2793 min/max: N/A core: 1: 2793 bogomips: 5586
                Flags: ht pae sse sse2
              Graphics:
                Device-1: NVIDIA NV17M [GeForce4 420 Go] vendor: Toshiba driver: nouveau
                  v: kernel arch: Kelvin bus-ID: 01:00.0
                Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: nouveau
                  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: nouveau_vieux gpu: nouveau
                  resolution: 1024x768~60Hz
                API: OpenGL v: 1.2 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI nv17 x86/MMX/SSE2
                  direct-render: Yes
              Audio:
                Device-1: Intel 82801DB/DBL/DBM AC97 Audio vendor: Toshiba
                  driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.5
                Sound API: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-486-smp running: yes
              Network:
                Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
                  vendor: Toshiba driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: ce00 bus-ID: 02:09.0
                IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
                Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros TP-Link TL-WN821N v2 / TL-WN822N v1 802.11n
                  [Atheros AR9170] type: USB driver: carl9170 bus-ID: 1-3:2
                IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
              Drives:
                Local Storage: total: 93.16 GiB used: 33.18 GiB (35.6%)
                ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK1032GAX size: 93.16 GiB
              Partition:
                ID-1: / size: 89.65 GiB used: 33.18 GiB (37.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
              Swap:
                ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.5 GiB used: 4.5 MiB (0.3%)
                  dev: /dev/sda2
              Sensors:
                Src: lm-sensors+/sys Message: No sensor data found using /sys/class/hwmon
                  or lm-sensors.
              Info:
                Processes: 113 Uptime: 1h 16m Memory: 998 MiB used: 653.7 MiB (65.5%)
                Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1440 Shell: Bash
                v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.25
              #104499
              Member
              bakunin

                Hi, I made a frugal install AntiX 21 full on an old computer with Xp on it. I gave space for persistence, but now, after trying to install an app, I run into a “not enough space on your device” issue. I switched out of the computer to do other things. Now I can’t even enter the frugal install, again saying not enough space on your device. I looked into the XP files, and there is the AntiX frugal-4.9.0-279-antix.1-486.smp file at 2.72 Gb, also the swap file. I guess that I should increase the size of the file, or the size of the persistence files, but I have no idea of how to do that. Any help? thanks

                #104475
                Member
                Robin

                  Great finding, @Wallon !

                  Now, please try the key combinations:

                  AltGr + B
                  AltGr + N
                  AltGr + Shift + B
                  AltGr + Shift + N
                  AltGr + W
                  AltGr + X
                  AltGr + Shift + W
                  AltGr + Shift + X

                  If I read your screenshot right, these should give you the typographic Quotation in some variants and the typographic Apostrophe (the latter should be AltGr + Shift + N) you have been missing. These are in your screenshot exactly at the same position as on the German keyboard layout (with the exception that » and « have swapped their place to match the French convention of using them „the other way around”).

                  Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

                  #104470
                  Moderator
                  Brian Masinick

                    When I say “a little bit”, I noticed reported memory at 1.32, 1.33, and 1.34 Gib at various points in time. Not huge, that’s for certain, but Google will snag more memory to provide a fast, efficient Web page caching, but based on these findings, it also shows that it’ll release resources too when they’re not being actively used. That’s pretty cool, and it’s the first time in a while that I’ve seen anything that clean and obvious, though it’s not the first time I’ve seen the overall Linux system operate well and efficiently.

                    Many years ago I had a Dell Dimension 4100 desktop system. When it was “young” it ran quite well, but as it aged and as the memory requirements of applications absolutely mushroomed in size (expanded greatly, like being gorged with water). Anyway that particular system as it aged would actually swap from time to time. The swapping algorithm was excellent; it wouldn’t swap out a task unless memory was completely full, then it wouldn’t shift back and forth unless it had to do so, but when it did, the operation was about as clean and effective as you could imagine.

                    Now, on this system with GOBS of memory to spare, we’re not even close to swapping, and the system isn’t going nuts adding and removing memory, yet when the browser itself (arguably the biggest single memory consumer on the entire system) doesn’t need a resource, it releases it without causing any major performance issue either when allocating or releasing the resource. Again, very good behavior of the browser, the operating system, and the interaction between them, and that’s why I thought it was “cool” to “watch this”, even without seeing the exact resource that was allocating or releasing resources.

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                    Brian Masinick

                    #104347
                    Member
                    antixcat

                      I’m getting really unpredictable behavior. First I tried increasing the swap to 34GiB and suspend now works, but only sometimes. Sometimes it only blanks the screen for a few seconds like it did before. Sometimes it works, but when it resumes it blanks the screen a few more times a few seconds apart, or if I suspend with xlock, xlock takes 10 seconds to trigger on resume after the screen is already showing the desktop, but only sometimes.

                      At 34GiB I tried hibernating and everything froze. When I forced a reboot, it was printing extremely small text and would freeze with garbage characters on the screen. Luckily it just booted normally after a few reboots.

                      So then I tried increasing my swap to 48GiB, and suspend is having the same issue, but now hibernate is simply rebooting the system like it did before. What could be causing this if it’s not the swap size?

                      • This reply was modified 1 month ago by antixcat.
                      #104327
                      Moderator
                      Brian Masinick

                        @antixcat – that’s pretty good use of your system and your partitions. Unless you are multi-booting MANY different systems, I do not see the need for the /boot/efi partition to be that large. Even mine is arguably larger than it needs to be, and I boot 5-7 systems at times. The utilization of mine is 22% /boot/efi, so you can see that I may have possibilities for more effective selection of partitions and sizes. Suppose your /boot/efi was
                        2048*64 = 131072; maybe that would be enough for /boot/efi, and you could increase the size of your swap accordingly, and that would undoubtedly help either suspend, hibernate or both. As it currently stands, your swap is NOT QUITE twice memory size, so even a couple more GiB might improve the situation.

                        Suppose you’re somehow able to redistribute this and you could make a 48 GiB swap? I think that *may* improve the situation; if NOT, it’d be worth investigating in more depth to understand why it’s not performing correctly. 48 may not be *mandatory* but it would give you hibernation and suspend “head room”, and that could be just what it’s looking for and why it’s not working as you expect.

                        See if I’m right or wrong about this if you are able to resize anything or reinstall anything.

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                        Brian Masinick

                        #104306
                        Member
                        antixcat

                          I am using antiX only. I have already set up my swap partition to about 32GB while installing antiX. (I have 16gb of RAM, following the same advice you gave me from a different post on this forum). When suspending, my screen blanks for a moment, but comes right back. When hibernating, the system just reboots instead. I know that my swap partition is functioning, because when backing up (or when moving large files with external drives) sometimes the swap is used. I’ve been able to get my screen to lock successfully, but otherwise my PC just runs all the time unless I turn it off. I’ve attach an image of GParted to show how my drive is set up.

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                          #104304
                          Moderator
                          Brian Masinick

                            @antixcat – when you say you want to get suspend and hibernate working, are you referring to suspending and/or hibernating antiX (or another Linux distribution?

                            One recommendation I found is:

                            “If RAM > 1 GB – swap size should be at least equal to the square root of the RAM size and at most double the size of RAM. If hibernation is used, then swap size should be equal to size of RAM plus the square root of the RAM size.”

                            My system rarely, if ever actually SWAPS, in fact, most of the time the entire usable workspace is able to execute in my physical memory space.
                            I have, however, read in the past about using swap when you want to either suspend or hibernate. If you DO NOT want to do a bunch of complex math, and you have sufficient space, create a SWAP file OR a swap partition that is AT LEAST double the size of the memory in your system and you’ll probably have success, assuming that all of the other requirements are in place. The few times that I’ve wanted to suspend or hibernate, I’ve done this and it’s worked great.

                            Hope this helps.

                            For additional reading:
                            https://wiki.debian.org/Swap
                            https://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=152498
                            https://linuxreviews.org/HOWTO_choose_the_right_swap_partition_size

                            --
                            Brian Masinick

                            #104168
                            Member
                            Trashthrasher

                              `System:
                              Kernel: 6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
                              parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp
                              root=UUID=181d69b5-f759-4d14-99e5-e5b97e71ffa4 ro quiet video=1920×1080
                              Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.2 vt: 7 dm: slimski v: 1.5.0 Distro: antiX-22_x64-full Grup Yorum 18
                              October 2022 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
                              Machine:
                              Type: Desktop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Z400 Workstation v: N/A
                              serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 6 serial: <superuser required>
                              Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 0B4Ch v: D serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Hewlett-Packard
                              v: 786G3 v03.61 date: 03/05/2018
                              Battery:
                              Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard serial: <filter> charge: N/A
                              status: N/A
                              Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse serial: <filter> charge: Normal
                              status: discharging
                              Memory:
                              RAM: total: 15.61 GiB used: 1.36 GiB (8.7%)
                              RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
                              PCI Slots:
                              Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
                              CPU:
                              Info: model: Intel Xeon W3565 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Nehalem level: v2 built: 2008-10
                              process: Intel 45nm family: 6 model-id: 0x1A (26) stepping: 5 microcode: 0x1D
                              Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB
                              desc: d-4×32 KiB; i-4×32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4×256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1×8 MiB
                              Speed (MHz): avg: 2682 high: 3337 min/max: 1596/3193 boost: enabled scaling:
                              driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 3337 2: 1596 3: 3334 4: 3334 5: 1596 6: 3334
                              7: 3334 8: 1596 bogomips: 51205
                              Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 dca de
                              ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept est flexpriority flush_l1d fpu fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ida lahf_lm lm
                              mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse
                              pse36 pti rdtscp rep_good sep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2
                              tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi vpid xtopology xtpr
                              Vulnerabilities:
                              Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
                              Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
                              Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT vulnerable
                              Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
                              Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
                              Type: retbleed status: Not affected
                              Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl
                              Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
                              Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB
                              filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
                              Type: srbds status: Not affected
                              Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
                              Graphics:
                              Device-1: NVIDIA G94GL [Quadro FX 1800] driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: series: 340.xx
                              status: legacy (EOL) last: release: 340.108 kernel: 5.4 xorg: 1.20 arch: Tesla process: 40-80nm
                              built: 2006-13 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 empty: DP-2,DVI-I-1
                              bus-ID: 0f:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0638 class-ID: 0300 temp: 54.0 C
                              Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 compositor: Picom v: 8.2 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
                              unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
                              Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920×1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00×11.22″) s-diag: 582mm (22.93″)
                              Monitor-1: DP-1 model: HP E221i serial: <filter> built: 2015 res: 1920×1080 hz: 60 dpi: 102
                              gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.651 y: 0.337 green: x: 0.318 y: 0.612 blue: x: 0.149 y: 0.063 white:
                              x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 477x268mm (18.78×10.55″) diag: 547mm (21.5″) ratio: 16:9
                              modes: 1920×1080, 1680×1050, 1600×900, 1280×1024, 1440×900, 1280×720, 1024×768, 800×600,
                              640×480, 720×400
                              API: OpenGL v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: NV94 direct-render: Yes
                              Audio:
                              Device-1: Intel 82801JI HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
                              bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3a3e class-ID: 0403
                              Sound API: ALSA v: k6.1.18-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
                              Sound Server-1: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: no
                              Network:
                              Device-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: tg3
                              v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: N/A bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1684
                              class-ID: 0200
                              IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
                              IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
                              IP v6: <filter> scope: global
                              IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic mngtmpaddr scope: global
                              IP v6: <filter> scope: link
                              WAN IP: <filter>
                              Bluetooth:
                              Message: No bluetooth data found.
                              Logical:
                              Message: No logical block device data found.
                              RAID:
                              Hardware-1: Intel SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci v: 3.0 port: d0c0 bus-ID: 00:1f.2
                              chip-ID: 8086:2822 rev: class-ID: 0104
                              Drives:
                              Local Storage: total: 3.19 TiB used: 1.37 TiB (43.0%)
                              SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
                              ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS100T2B0A-00SM50 size: 931.51 GiB
                              block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 00WD
                              scheme: MBR
                              ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: A-Data model: SU760 size: 476.94 GiB block-size:
                              physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 4R23 scheme: MBR
                              ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD My Passport 0820
                              size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1007
                              scheme: MBR
                              Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: hp model: DVD A DH16ABLH rev: 3HD9 dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
                              Features: speed: 40 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram
                              state: running
                              Partition:
                              ID-1: / raw-size: 923.5 GiB size: 907.93 GiB (98.31%) used: 22.39 GiB (2.5%) fs: ext4
                              dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 label: rootantiX22 uuid: 181d69b5-f759-4d14-99e5-e5b97e71ffa4
                              ID-2: /home/<filter>/pCloudDrive raw-size: N/A size: 2 TiB used: 1.26 TiB (63.0%) fs: fuse
                              source: ERR-102
                              ID-3: /media/dank/sdc1-usb-WD_My_Passport_0 raw-size: 1.82 TiB size: 1.82 TiB (100.00%)
                              used: 122.7 MiB (0.0%) fs: ntfs dev: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33 label: N/A uuid: 3E5BB57B043F4587
                              ID-4: /run/timeshift/backup raw-size: 476.94 GiB size: 468.39 GiB (98.21%)
                              used: 94.05 GiB (20.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: Timeshift
                              uuid: 3a83843b-21f9-4bcd-9125-053d9248bf39
                              Swap:
                              Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
                              ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2
                              maj-min: 8:2 label: N/A uuid: 6a81be70-9c09-4f92-972b-4487a29e2d56
                              Unmounted:
                              Message: No unmounted partitions found.
                              USB:
                              Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-5: 5-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Device-1: 5-1:2 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: Keyboard,Mouse
                              driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 98mA
                              chip-ID: 046d:c534 class-ID: 0301
                              Hub-6: 6-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-7: 7-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-8: 8-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-9: 9-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
                              chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-10: 9-2:2 info: VIA Labs USB2.0 Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 2109:2822
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-11: 10-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-12: 10-2:2 info: VIA Labs USB3.1 Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.2 speed: 10 Gb/s chip-ID: 2109:0822
                              class-ID: 0900
                              Device-1: 10-2.2:3 info: Western Digital My Passport Ultra (WDBMWV WDBZFP) type: Mass Storage
                              driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s power: 896mA chip-ID: 1058:0820
                              class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
                              Sensors:
                              System Temperatures: cpu: 52.2 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 55.0 C
                              Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1731 fan-2: 0 fan-3: 0
                              Power: 12v: N/A 5v: N/A 3.3v: 3.29 vbat: N/A gpu: nouveau V: 1.05
                              Repos:
                              Packages: pm: dpkg pkgs: 2312 libs: 1126 tools: apt,apt-get,nala,synaptic
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
                              1: deb http: //ftp.osuosl.org/pub/mxlinux/antix/bullseye/ bullseye main nosystemd nonfree
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/bullseye-backports.list
                              1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-backports main contrib non-free
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
                              1: deb http: //debian.osuosl.org/debian/ bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
                              1: deb http: //debian.osuosl.org/debian/ bullseye main contrib non-free
                              2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ bullseye-security main contrib non-free
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/nicotine-team-ubuntu-stable-lunar.list
                              1: deb http: //ppa.launchpad.net/nicotine-team/stable/ubuntu lunar main
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
                              1: deb http: //repository.spotify.com stable non-free
                              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/volian-archive-scar-unstable.list
                              1: deb [arch=amd64,arm64,armhf] http: //deb.volian.org/volian/ scar main
                              Processes:
                              CPU top: 5 of 210
                              1: cpu: 100% command: pcloud pid: 4177 mem: 203.5 MiB (1.2%)
                              2: cpu: 99.4% command: pcloud pid: 10617 mem: 185.1 MiB (1.1%)
                              3: cpu: 14.0% command: pcloud pid: 2758 mem: 325.6 MiB (2.0%)
                              4: cpu: 11.1% command: [kworker/u16:1-events_unbound] pid: 8510 mem: 0.00 MiB (0.0%)
                              5: cpu: 5.6% command: [kworker/u16:3-events_unbound] pid: 9658 mem: 0.00 MiB (0.0%)
                              Memory top: 5 of 210
                              1: mem: 325.6 MiB (2.0%) command: pcloud pid: 2758 cpu: 14.0%
                              2: mem: 203.5 MiB (1.2%) command: pcloud pid: 4177 cpu: 100%
                              3: mem: 185.1 MiB (1.1%) command: pcloud pid: 10617 cpu: 99.4%
                              4: mem: 96.2 MiB (0.6%) command: mariadbd pid: 2519 cpu: 0.0%
                              5: mem: 88.0 MiB (0.5%) command: pcloud pid: 2880 cpu: 0.0%
                              Info:
                              Processes: 210 Uptime: 3h 2m wakeups: 36 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5
                              tool: service Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Client: IceWM v: 3.3.2 inxi: 3.3.25

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                              #104142
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                              dolphin_oracle

                                I have a 510. good machine. very good keyboard. up till about 3 months ago it was my production machine. its the last thinkpad I owned that still had a optical bay that could be swapped for a second harddrive.

                                #104025
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                                h2

                                  Lines of code is always a challenge, and the quality of the language, like Perl, makes solving things unfortunately both possible and relatively easy when it comes to the actual code, the research and testing is always a pain, easily 95% or more of any feature or fix usually.

                                  Howeve,r you can’t compare these tools at all, inxi is now almost 34k lines of fairly tight Perl code, which handles Linux, BSD, and x86/x86_64/ARM/MIPS/PPC/SPARC etc, multiple optional data sources, and runs reasonably well on almost 20 year old Linux operating systems without any modification and almost no dependencies beyond Perl 5.008, and remains roughly agnostic to what is being used to make the OS you use.

                                  This takes a lot of code, unfortunately. Luckily I have yet to find any case Perl could not handle well, but compiling 34k LOC Perl takes time, that’s a big chunk of the execution time, tested on 200mhz 192 MiB ram laptop, takes about 10 seconds to compile the program, then about 10 seconds to execute it with -v8, depends really on how much L1,L2 cache is available more than anything else I find, more than CPU speed. Querying in subshells is slow too, I’ve run optimizers many times on inxi and the bottom line is once compiled and started, subshells take up some 80% or so, maybe more, of the execution time, that’s other things being slow, and kernel forking just being inherently slow and inefficient, though I keep pulling performance gains when I do focused optimizations, but the low hanging fruit is almost all gone now.

                                  Systems without any caching at all, like old 486 cpus, take forever to run this much perl, I think one guy timed it at 9 minutes, but I think that’s because it had to start using the disk swap file. But it ran, without issues or errors. Takes about 20 seconds on Pentium M 200 mhz laptop, that speed hasn’t gone up too much over time, I think when inxi was around 20k LOC, it was around 12 seconds, give or take.

                                  If systems were internally consistent, and if all desktops and window managers and distros did things the same way consistently, and if hardware vendors always filled out their info correctly and completely and reliably and consistently, and if I could droop BSD and ARM type support, I could probably slash 1/2 or more of the inxi codebase and have the output look roughly the same, but sadly, none of those cases are ever going to happen, randomness will rul under the covers, and inxi will try to make some sense of it, and that just takes a lot of code to do.

                                  However comparing execution time in this sense isn’t really relevant, similar to comparing the weight of some sandals to your pickup truck, the things aren’t the same, even if both have something to do with locomotion and movement.

                                  The main thing I realized after worrying a bit about how big inxi was getting was that you don’t run it all the time, it’s made to generate a fairly advanced report on many facets of your operating system and underlying hardware, which involves dealing with a massive amount of garbage data, randomness, and differing methods of doing similar things with different tools, that in general require an internal mapping to consistent data structures that can then be used to generate relatively consistent output. And to handle many many many corner and fringe and failure cases, and many different platforms, both hardware and OS.

                                  Still a sys admin tool first I think, and an end user tool second, that’s how it was started, and it’s still roughly how it develops, though end user support has taken on a bigger chunk of that admin than previously. To put it into perspective, to get a decent but not complete desktoo/wm/distro report takes about 1300 lines of code, give or take, plus internal utilities that are used, because every project is different, none are reliable or consistent, so just endless exceptions added year after year. And still runs, quite well, on the 2.4 kernel, lol, just fixed some weaknesses there today in fact.

                                  I opted for accuracy and reliability in the end, which just takes a whole lot of code, more as the years go by, since the old stuff remains supported, as the new stuff comes, so it just forms cascades of tests and data sources, all mapped to internal consistent data structures whenever possible so inxi can make sense of the stuff.

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