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    Brian Masinick

      siduction on my newest hardware (the one I’ve had “difficulty” getting antiX going, but that’s OK, this works GREAT here and antiX works GREAT on OTHER hardware.

      Here’s the inxi full output:

      inxi -zrv7
      System:
        Kernel: 5.15.14-1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.2.0
          Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1
          vt: 7 dm: SDDM Distro: siduction 21.2.0 Farewell - xfce - (202109171810)
          base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
      Machine:
        Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A515-55 v: V1.12
          serial: <superuser required>
        Mobo: IL model: Doc_IL v: V1.12 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Insyde
          v: 1.12 date: 09/07/2020
      Battery:
        ID-1: BAT1 charge: 50.3 Wh (100.0%) condition: 50.3/47.8 Wh (105.3%)
          volts: 12.5 min: 11.2 model: LGC AP18C8K type: Li-ion serial: <filter>
          status: Full
      Memory:
        RAM: total: 3.62 GiB used: 1.92 GiB (53.1%)
        RAM Report:
          permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
      CPU:
        Info: dual core model: Intel Core i3-1005G1 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
          smt: enabled arch: Ice Lake rev: 5 cache: L1: 160 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
          L3: 4 MiB
        Speed (MHz): avg: 1098 high: 1135 min/max: 400/3400 cores: 1: 1112
          2: 1135 3: 1080 4: 1067 bogomips: 9523
        Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
          arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 avx512_bitalg avx512_vbmi2
          avx512_vnni avx512_vpopcntdq avx512bw avx512cd avx512dq avx512f
          avx512ifma avx512vbmi avx512vl bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush clflushopt cmov
          constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb
          erms est f16c flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr gfni ht hwp
          hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify hwp_pkg_req ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ida
          intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor
          movbe msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx ospke pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm
          pdpe1gb pebs pge pku pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdpid rdrand rdseed
          rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep sha_ni smap smep split_lock_detect ss ssbd sse
          sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tsc tsc_adjust
          tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq umip vaes vme vpclmulqdq x2apic xgetbv1
          xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
      Graphics:
        Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G1 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
          driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:8a56 class-ID: 0300
        Device-2: Quanta HD User Facing type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-5:3
          chip-ID: 0408:a061 class-ID: 0e02
        Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.14 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver:
          loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
          s-dpi: 96
        OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics (ICL GT1) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.3.3
          direct render: Yes
      Audio:
        Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI
          driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:34c8
          class-ID: 0403
        Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.14-1-siduction-amd64 running: yes
        Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes
        Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.43 running: yes
      Use of uninitialized value $args in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/inxi line 2551.
      Use of uninitialized value in concatenation (.) or string at /usr/bin/inxi line 2551.
        % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                       Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
      100    12  100    12    0     0    242      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--   244
      Network:
        Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
          bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:34f0 class-ID: 0280
        IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
        IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
          broadcast: <filter>
        IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
        Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
          vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 3000
          bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
        IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
        WAN IP: <filter>
      Bluetooth:
        Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
          bus-ID: 1-10:5 chip-ID: 8087:0026 class-ID: e001
        Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter>
          bt-v: 3.0 lmp-v: 5.2 sub-v: 24bf hci-v: 5.2 rev: 24bf
      Logical:
        Message: No logical block device data found.
      RAID:
        Message: No RAID data found.
      Drives:
        Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 16.37 GiB (13.7%)
        ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: MZVLQ128HBHQ-00000
          size: 119.24 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
          rev: FXV7000Q temp: 15.8 C scheme: GPT
        Message: No optical or floppy data found.
      Partition:
        ID-1: / size: 27.64 GiB used: 16.35 GiB (59.2%) fs: ext4
          dev: /dev/nvme0n1p6 label: siduction
          uuid: 86348cb2-0643-4c3e-9b63-de05831f1aa9
        ID-2: /boot/efi size: 97.5 MiB used: 13.9 MiB (14.3%) fs: vfat
          dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 label: N/A uuid: 97F4-8CC1
      Swap:
        ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.93 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
          dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 label: N/A uuid: ced9c231-2616-4423-ae13-de0d613eea06
      Unmounted:
        ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1p3 size: 29.3 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
          uuid: 3ee82609-60f4-42f6-af91-b8befbc80072
        ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1p4 size: 29.33 GiB fs: ext4 label: Fedora
          uuid: 2df135b5-06a7-43fa-a0a3-c377d13960ab
        ID-3: /dev/nvme0n1p5 size: 29.33 GiB fs: ext4 label: endeavouros
          uuid: b74fdab6-d17b-4ead-8718-6838ca22ab3a
      USB:
        Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 12 rev: 2.0
          speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
        Device-1: 1-4:2 info: KYE Systems (Mouse Systems) Trackbar Emotion
          type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0
          speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 0458:0007 class-ID: 0301
        Device-2: 1-5:3 info: Quanta HD User Facing type: Video driver: uvcvideo
          interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0408:a061
          class-ID: 0e02
        Device-3: 1-7:4 info: Elan Micro ELAN:Fingerprint type: <vendor specific>
          driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA
          chip-ID: 04f3:0c03 class-ID: 0000
        Device-4: 1-10:5 info: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: Bluetooth
          driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA
          chip-ID: 8087:0026 class-ID: e001
        Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 6 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
          chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
      Sensors:
        System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A
        Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
      Repos:
        Packages: apt: 1959
        No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
        No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/dbgsym.list
        Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
          1: deb https://deb.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
        Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extra.list
          1: deb https://siduction.office-vienna.at/extra unstable main
        Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/fixes.list
          1: deb https://siduction.office-vienna.at/fixes unstable main
        Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
          1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
        Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:stevenpusser.list
          1: deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/stevenpusser/Debian_10/ /
        Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
          1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free
      Info:
        Processes: 191 Uptime: 38m wakeups: 1 Init: systemd v: 250 runlevel: 5
        Compilers: gcc: 11.2.0 alt: 10/11 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16
        running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.11

      --
      Brian Masinick

      #75146
      Moderator
      christophe

        I’d keep it all one partition. 71 GB is small these days, and this gives you the freedom to use the space for new programs OR user files, as you see fit.

        If you do split, I’d say maybe 20 GB root, and the rest as home – except for a swap partition. Maybe 1-2 GB swap.

        I’ve never noticed a performance difference, personally. And my HDDs tend to be small.

        I normally only split up the HDD if I intend to multi-boot.

        Just my preferences. YMMV, as they say. 😉

        confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

        #75112
        Forum Admin
        rokytnji
          System: Host: antix1 Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
          parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/antiX/vmlinuz quiet splasht disable=lxF
          Desktop: IceWM 2.3.4 dm: SLiM 1.3.6 Distro: antiX-19.4_x64-full Grup Yorum 20 May 2021
          base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
          Machine: Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A114-31 v: V1.09 serial: <filter> Chassis:
          type: 10 serial: <filter>
          Mobo: APL model: Bulbasaur_AP v: V1.09 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.09
          date: 10/17/2017
          Battery: ID-1: BAT1 charge: 31.9 Wh condition: 32.2/37.0 Wh (87%) volts: 8.2/7.7
          model: PANASONIC AP16M5J type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging
          Memory: RAM: total: 3.77 GiB used: 258.9 MiB (6.7%)
          RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
          PCI Slots: Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
          CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N3350 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Goldmont
          family: 6 model-id: 5C (92) stepping: 9 microcode: 40 L2 cache: 1024 KiB bogomips: 4377
          Speed: 1096 MHz min/max: 800/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1096 2: 1161
          Flags: 3dnowprefetch acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon art bts clflush
          clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept erms est
          flexpriority fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht ida intel_pt kaiser lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor
          movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln
          pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep sha_ni smap smep ss sse
          sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer
          vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
          Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
          Type: l1tf status: Not affected
          Type: mds status: Not affected
          Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
          Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
          Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
          Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
          Type: srbds status: Not affected
          Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
          Graphics: Device-1: Intel vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0
          chip ID: 8086:5a85
          Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
          resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
          OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 500 (Broxton 2x6) v: 4.5 Mesa 18.3.6
          compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes
          Audio: Device-1: Intel Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor N4200/N3350/E3900 Series Audio Cluster
          vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:0e.0
          chip ID: 8086:5a98
          Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp
          Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
          vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 1000 bus ID: 02:00.1
          chip ID: 10ec:8168
          IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
          Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter vendor: Lite-On
          driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 1000 bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 168c:0042
          IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
          WAN IP: No WAN IP data found. Connected to the web? SSL issues?
          Drives: Local Storage: total: 72.70 GiB used: 4.02 GiB (5.5%)
          ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 model: DF4064 size: 58.24 GiB block size: physical: 512 B
          logical: 512 B serial: <filter> scheme: MBR
          ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: TransMemory size: 14.45 GiB block size:
          physical: 512 B logical: 512 B serial: <filter> rev: 1.00 scheme: MBR
          Message: No Optical or Floppy data was found.
          RAID: Message: No RAID data was found.
          Partition: ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 2.97 GiB used: 2.8 MiB (0.1%) fs: overlay source: ERR-102
          label: N/A uuid: N/A
          ID-2: /live/boot-dev raw size: 4.29 GiB size: 4.18 GiB (97.50%) used: 1.17 GiB (28.1%)
          fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 label: userpart uuid: a65b852e-644e-4cab-b47f-9b29857a7b98
          ID-3: /live/linux raw size: 1.14 GiB size: <root required> used: <root required>
          fs: squashfs dev: /dev/loop0 label: N/A uuid: N/A
          ID-4: /media/ANTIX-UEFI raw size: 49.0 MiB size: 48.2 MiB (98.43%) used: 4.2 MiB (8.

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          #74987
          Member
          roland

            I cannot install any current release of antiX on this Acer Aspire small laptop, having recently tried with 17, 19 and 21. The install procedure usually fails processing the device, either attempting some partition format or simply hanging endlessly. I can run from a memory stick which is what I am doing right now using the very latest release 21 recently downloaded.

            I have tried every imaginable combination of partition table type, ESP present or not, boot and esp flags set or or not, 2, 3 or more partitions present, default install or using prepared partions, but nothing works.

            Related to this problem my questions are, what are the suggested or recommended device setup parameters to achieve a successful install?
            Also why does the install process insist on its formatting the esp swap and root partitions? Why can this not be left to the user, to prepare all partitions himself in advance of the install? Maybe as an option?
            Why does the install fail to recognise my ESP partition which is present with esp and boot flags set?

            The install procedure has been revised and enhanced several times with each successive release, and I have no quarrel with the release 21 version when I have used it on a normal PC, but I am not so sure it can cope with this laptop. This laptop has me beat.

            All contributions welcome, it’s all probably down to my own lack of experience.

            • This topic was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by christophe. Reason: marked solved
            Member
            scruffyeagle

              I have a problem with my Dell “Latitude” laptop. Its built-in touchpad w/ mouse buttons gets in the way, while I’m typing on the keyboard. The lower ends of my thumbs occasionally contact the touchpad, and then the cursor on screen jumps somewhere else instead of remaining where I need it to be. (I use an external trackball as my mouse.)

              Note, this isn’t the same laptop I’ve posted about before involving other issues. The other was in a Dell Precision laptop using a fully upgraded copy of Antix v19.3, and this one is in a Dell Latitude laptop using Antix v19.4.

              If I could, I’d disable the touchpad from within the BIOS – but, this is a used (second-hand) machine, and some previous owner of the machine set an “Administrator password” which I don’t know the value of. The BIOS won’t let me change the settings of the machine’s components, without that password.

              So, I’m wondering if there’s any method of over-riding the BIOS settings for the touchpad, to disable the touchpad via software within the Linux operating system. This, if at all possible, probably requires an expert understanding of the operating system, and coding.

              Anybody have any ideas on how to disable the touchpad and its mouse buttons?
              ——————————

              Here’s the output from inxi -Fxxxrz:

              System:
              Kernel: 4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
              Desktop: IceWM 2.9.3 vt: 7 dm: SLiM 1.3.6
              Distro: antiX-19.4_x64-full Grup Yorum 20 May 2021
              base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
              Machine:
              Type: Portable System: Dell product: Latitude E6400 v: N/A
              serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter>
              Mobo: Dell model: 0U692R serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A34
              date: 06/04/2013
              Battery:
              ID-1: BAT0 charge: 57.7 Wh (127.1%) condition: 45.4/57.7 Wh (78.7%)
              volts: 11.7 min: 11.1 model: Samsung SDI DELL PT43697 type: Li-ion
              serial: <filter> status: Full
              CPU:
              Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo P8600 bits: 64 type: MCP
              arch: Penryn rev: A cache: L2: 3 MiB
              flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 9575
              Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/2401 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz):
              1: 800 2: 800
              Graphics:
              Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell
              driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:2a42 class-ID: 0300
              Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: intel
              resolution: 1280×800~60Hz s-dpi: 96
              OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express v: 2.1 Mesa 18.3.6
              direct render: Yes
              Audio:
              Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel
              v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e class-ID: 0403
              Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-264-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
              Network:
              Device-1: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network vendor: Dell driver: e1000e
              v: 3.2.6-k port: efe0 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10f5 class-ID: 0200
              IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
              Device-2: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 1100
              bus-ID: 0c:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:4232 class-ID: 0280
              IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
              RAID:
              Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci
              v: 3.0 port: 6ea0 bus-ID: 00:1f.2 chip-ID: 8086.282a rev: 03
              class-ID: 0104
              Drives:
              Local Storage: total: 1.14 TiB used: 5.72 GiB (0.5%)
              ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK2561GSYN size: 232.89 GiB
              speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: 0C scheme: MBR
              ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Western Digital
              model: WD My Passport 0748 size: 931.48 GiB type: N/A serial: <filter>
              rev: 1019 scheme: MBR
              Partition:
              ID-1: / size: 28.71 GiB used: 5.72 GiB (19.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda5
              Swap:
              ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 9.77 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
              priority: -1 dev: /dev/sda3
              Sensors:
              System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: SODIMM C
              Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
              Repos:
              Packages: apt: 1963
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
              1: deb http://mirrors.rit.edu/mxlinux/mx-packages/antix/buster buster main nonfree nosystemd
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list
              1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
              1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
              1: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
              2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list
              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
              Info:
              Processes: 198 Uptime: 10h 3m wakeups: 5 Memory: 3.82 GiB
              used: 1.22 GiB (31.9%) Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5
              Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Shell: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: roxterm
              inxi: 3.3.06

              • This topic was modified 1 year, 1 month ago by christophe. Reason: solved
              #74937
              Member
              rayluo

                Here I have to contradict, seaken64.

                seaken64 wrote:

                With Firefox you may get two or three tabs before RAM is used up.

                Simply No. It depends only on how you set up your system and how you set up firefox. I’m runnung firefox right now with 147(!) tabs open on an 32bit single core PC with 2 GB RAM (DDR2, PC-5200) only on antiX 19.3 with all recent updates. It doesn’t matter whether it is an Intel Pentium or an Athlon XP, I have both here in daily use

                Theoretically speaking, how many tabs a browser can handle, also largely depends on what kind of websites you are browsing. I used to also have a 2GB RAM laptop (a Thinkpad X60, fwiw) as my daily driver, it could possibly handle 100+ tabs of antiX forum posts *ONLY* (although I did not try it that way), but definitely not when I already have some Gmail+GoogleCalender+GoogleNotes (or the Outlook+Calendar+OneNote flavor) + GitHub + StackOverflow + etc tabs constantly open. From a technology standpoint, the tipping point is when the last straw (i.e. the last tab) that brings your computer into thrashing situation. You could know you are approach that limit by keeping an eye on the second-rightmost icon on the systray (i.e. the memory gauge) and an “htop” console, but you usually won’t be able to pull your computer back if it went pass the no-return-point.

                That is why I think @Robin’s 147(!) number is very impressive! I would love to learn from Robin’s wisdom and reproduce his/her success.

                Probably I should add: I’m running antiX full from a 64GB Live Persistent USB stick, but having the Swap partition NOT on the Live medium, letting antiX use the existing Swap partition on rotational hard drive.

                @Robin you mentioned “it depends on (1) how you set up your system and (2) how you set up fiBut even under really heavy load I rarely see the hard drive starting to swap (Especially this can happen when editing really big and highres images in Gimp.) But firefox never has made the PC start swapping.refox”. Was the paragraph above the “set up your system” part? I assume only a minority of antiX users are using Live USB, but coincidentally I am one of the Live USB users, and I have long been setting up swap partition on outside of USB stick.

                But even under really heavy load I rarely see the hard drive starting to swap (Especially this can happen when editing really big and highres images in Gimp.) But firefox never has made the PC start swapping.

                That is an enviable performance, @Robin. I don’t know Gimp much so I just assume Gimp would use a definitive amount of RAM proportional to your image size. But the Firefox (or its “content process(es)” seems to be a different beast. Right now, on my 4GB RAM laptop, there are 8 default firefox content processes. Each of them occupies ~100MB to ~600MB RAM, one of them even uses 33.3GB(!) Virtual RAM, according to htop.

                
                $ sudo ps_mem.py -S
                 Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used   Swap used	Program
                  ...
                  1.3 GiB + 150.3 MiB =   1.4 GiB    90.1 MiB	firefox-esr (10)
                
                $ htop
                    PID   ...  VIRT   RES   SHR ... COMMAND
                    ...   ... 33.3G  157M 72544 ... /usr/lib/firefox-esr/firefox-esr -contentproc -childID 2 ...  
                
                $ free -h
                               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                Mem:           3.8Gi       1.5Gi       973Mi       899Mi       1.3Gi       1.2Gi
                Swap:          8.0Gi       872Mi       7.1Gi
                

                So, @Robin, I already use same “system set up” as yours, but you can see my laptop(s) behave very differently than yours. So, I would assume it is the following “firefox setup” that would make a big difference.

                Probably the magic behind it is how you configure your firefox. There are some settings, I change from the default values on these machines so everything runs smoothly:
                1.) remove the checkmark from the Entry “Use recommended Performance settings” in section “Performance settings”

                2.) Set chekmark at “Use Hardware-accelleration”. This will have only any affect, when your video driver is able to handle this. I observed the original Nvidia driver does handle this perfectly, but Nouveau driver I have doubts whether there is any accelleration in use at all. It feels as if all the rendering is done by the CPU instead of GPU.

                2.) set “Max Content threads” to “1” (one).
                In contrast to what they do write there (“the more threads you have the better would be the performance”), the opposite is true on weak machines. Firefox will run like a youngster on even a single core 32 bit system when setting this to one only.

                3.) When running on original Nvidia driver the setting “activate smooth scrolling” is fine. But again, when running on Nouveau driver you should deactivate this setting for improved performance.

                As you can see, the usability of your system in everyday usage heavily depends on the quality of the video drivers you can lay hands on and install.

                Thanks. I applied that “set max content threads to 1” just now. I would need some time (days?) to observe how it behaves.

                I do have questions on the video drivers.

                * How does a user know whether his/her antiX system is using the optimal video driver? antiX21 uses an i915 driver on my laptop. Is it good? Bad?

                
                Graphics:  Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel 
                           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0166 class-ID: 0300 
                           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa 
                           display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
                           ... 
                           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2) v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 
                           compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
                

                * How does a user know/test/benchmark whether Firefox is using GPU for rendering?

                4.) And finally do install at all costs “uBlock origin” on firefox. This stops rendering all the heavy overhead the modern internet web pages come with. You would not believe what a difference this makes in everyday usage. Actually you do need the modern hardware only to satisfy the needs of advertising industry…

                Interesting point on the advertising industry. 🙂

                antiX seems to already comes with some ad-blocking capability out-of-the-box, and I thought that was enough (even though it is also sometimes inconvenient). I installed “uBlock Origin” just now, and I’ll observe its effect in next few days.

                However, I have to say I am skeptical on whether ad-blocker alone would make much difference to my usage pattern. As hinted above in my first paragraph in this post, my constant opened tabs are those like Gmail or Outlook. Those 2 particular web pages contain no ads, they are just resource-hungry in their own right.

                All in all, thanks a lot for Robin’s sharing. I really look forward to hear more details from @Robin.

                #74923
                Member
                Robin

                  Here I have to contradict, seaken64.

                  With Firefox you may get two or three tabs before RAM is used up.

                  Simply No. It depends only on how you set up your system and how you set up firefox. I’m runnung firefox right now with 147(!) tabs open on an 32bit single core PC with 2 GB RAM (DDR2, PC-5200) only on antiX 19.3 with all recent updates. It doesn’t matter whether it is an Intel Pentium or an Athlon XP, I have both here in daily use, both with 2GB RAM and no problems with running Thunderbird or Claws mail parallel, and in the background having the machine translation script working at the antiX translations from transifex one language after the other. This class of machines is even good for watching live TV using aCSTV, without having to close the other programs before. Sometimes I have 20 Windows at the same time opened, Geany with multiple tabs at several projects running and also leafpad, mirage, and loading some photos with gtkam from digital camera. All this works smooth and fluent, the memory management on antiX does a really great job.
                  Probably I should add: I’m running antiX full from a 64GB Live Persistent USB stick, but having the Swap partition NOT on the Live medium, letting antiX use the existing Swap partition on rotational hard drive.
                  But even under really heavy load I rarely see the hard drive starting to swap (Especially this can happen when editing really big and highres images in Gimp.) But firefox never has made the PC start swapping.
                  Probably the magic behind it is how you configure your firefox. There are some settings, I change from the default values on these machines so everything runs smoothly:
                  1.) remove the checkmark from the Entry "Use recommended Performance settings" in section "Performance settings"

                  2.) Set chekmark at "Use Hardware-accelleration". This will have only any affect, when your video driver is able to handle this. I observed the original Nvidia driver does handle this perfectly, but Nouveau driver I have doubts whether there is any accelleration in use at all. It feels as if all the rendering is done by the CPU instead of GPU.

                  2.) set "Max Content threads" to "1" (one).
                  In contrast to what they do write there (“the more threads you have the better would be the performance”), the opposite is true on weak machines. Firefox will run like a youngster on even a single core 32 bit system when setting this to one only.

                  3.) When running on original Nvidia driver the setting "activate smooth scrolling" is fine. But again, when running on Nouveau driver you should deactivate this setting for improved performance.

                  As you can see, the usability of your system in everyday usage heavily depends on the quality of the video drivers you can lay hands on and install. If the driver lets all the work to the CPU, and the GPU idles most of the time instead of being used for what it is designed for, it is needless to ask why a specific system is not usable in everyday usage. All the existing performance is eaten up by rendering everything on CPU instead of GPU. And this goes also for the rendering of multiple browser tabs.

                  Just an example: I can run a simple video file of e.g. 2360 kbps smoothly even dual screen with a CPU load of max 60% peak and an average of 40% with antiX 19.3 on the 32 bit pentium M system (nominal 1,4 GHz, 2GB RAM) with original nvidia drivers installed. But on antiX 21 using the nouveau driver on the very same machine the very same video file using the very same program (mpv) outpowers the CPU to constantly 100%, even rendering the video display choppy and not allowing to do anything else at the same time on the machine. That makes all the difference.

                  4.) And finally do install at all costs "uBlock origin" on firefox. This stops rendering all the heavy overhead the modern internet web pages come with. You would not believe what a difference this makes in everyday usage. Actually you do need the modern hardware only to satisfy the needs of advertising industry… For the true content of any webpage a 32 bit single core CPU combined with a true high performance GPU is enough to render dozens of tabs in firefox. As I told you, I’m right now running 147 tabs simultaneously. No joke. (This comes since I work at a lots of projects parallel, swithing fast between them. It would simply take to much time to close and open the tabs. Allways open: Leo, Deepl, google-translate, woxicon, duden, linguee, 4 times transifex, antiX forum, 6 times gitlab, 2 times gitgub, wikipedia, to list only a couple of them, and also dozens of sites for recent researching in different matters.) Runing frescobaldi sometimes parallel, or listening to some audio stream from “poor mans radio player” or Audio-CD. All this parallel on a single core 32 bit CPU, without having to wait longer than a second or two for anything. No need at all to be patient.

                  System:    Kernel: 4.19.184-antix.1-686-smp-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
                             parameters: vga=0x0317 persist_all lang=de_DE tz=Europe/Berlin quiet splash=v 
                             disable=lxF 
                             Desktop: IceWM 2.9.4 vt: 7 dm: SLiM 1.3.6 
                             Distro: antiX-19.3_386-full Manolis Glezos 15 October 2020 
                             base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
                  Memory:    RAM: total: 1.96 GiB used: 1.21 GiB (61.9%) 
                             RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                  CPU:       Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 type: MCP arch: M Dothan family: 6 
                             model-id: D (13) stepping: 8 microcode: 20 cache: L2: 2 MiB bogomips: 2659 
                             Speed: 1333 MHz min/max: 800/1733 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 1333 
                             Flags: acpi apic bts clflush cmov cpuid cx8 de dts est fpu fxsr mca mce mmx msr mtrr nx 
                             pae pbe pge pse pti sep ss sse sse2 tm tm2 tsc vme 
                  Graphics:  Device-1: NVIDIA NV43M [GeForce Go 6600] vendor: Rioworks driver: nvidia v: 304.137 
                             alternate: nvidiafb,nouveau bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0148 class-ID: 0300 
                             Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: loaded: nvidia unloaded: modesetting 
                             failed: fbdev,nouveau,vesa alternate: nv display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
                             Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2464x900 s-dpi: 98 s-size: 639x231mm (25.2x9.1") 
                             s-diag: 679mm (26.8") 
                             Monitor-1: VGA-1 res: 1024x768 hz: 60 
                             Monitor-2: VGA-2 res: 1440x900 hz: 60 dpi: 100 size: 367x230mm (14.4x9.1") 
                             diag: 433mm (17.1") 
                             OpenGL: renderer: GeForce Go 6600/PCIe/SSE2 v: 2.1.2 NVIDIA 304.137 direct render: Yes 

                  And the Athlon XP system (1,2 GHz nominal and also 2GB DDR 2 RAM, BIOS date: 2001) has absolutely the same performance, it is even a bit faster (3319 bogomips). No difference in everyday usability.

                  Firefox + 1 GB RAM = “daily driver” ?

                  Unfortunately I can’t answer this. Indeed, it might be a great difference whether you have only one GB RAM instead of the 2 GB on which my experience is based.

                  Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

                  #74880
                  Member
                  ydek

                    Linuxdaddy.

                    Here is the output of the command: inxi -Fxz
                    System:
                    Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
                    v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.9.4
                    Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021
                    base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
                    Machine:
                    Type: Desktop Mobo: PCCHIPS model: A33G v: 1.0 serial: <filter>
                    BIOS: American Megatrends v: 080013 date: 07/07/2006
                    CPU:
                    Info: Single Core model: AMD Sempron 3000+ bits: 64 type: UP
                    arch: K8 rev.F+ rev: 2 cache: L2: 256 KiB
                    flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 3200
                    Speed: 1600 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 1600
                    Graphics:
                    Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or
                    662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
                    driver: N/A bus-ID: 01:00.0
                    Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: vesa
                    resolution: 640×480
                    OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5
                    direct render: Yes
                    Audio:
                    Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC97 Sound
                    vendor: Elite driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.7
                    Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
                    Network:
                    Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 190 Ethernet Adapter
                    vendor: Elite driver: sis190 v: 1.4 port: d000 bus-ID: 00:04.0
                    IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
                    RAID:
                    Hardware-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 182 SATA/RAID Controller
                    driver: sata_sis v: 1.0 bus-ID: 00:05.0
                    Drives:
                    Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 3.65 GiB (1.2%)
                    ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK3265GSX size: 298.09 GiB
                    Partition:
                    ID-1: / size: 290 GiB used: 3.65 GiB (1.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
                    Swap:
                    ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.38 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
                    dev: /dev/sda2
                    Sensors:
                    System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A
                    Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
                    Info:
                    Processes: 129 Uptime: 7m Memory: 1.83 GiB used: 636.9 MiB (33.9%)
                    Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1213
                    Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06

                    #74735
                    Member
                    Arius

                      Thanks for all the input, everybody. (Marcelo was also extremely helpful via PM.)
                      When I have a moment I’m going to see what I can accomplish with Gparted.

                      I’m definitely using antiX 21 x64 FULL sysv edition ~~~ 1570 preinstalled packages.

                      and here’s my inxi output, in case that’s still useful to anyone:

                      System:
                        Kernel: 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 
                        Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 Distro: antiX-21_x64-full Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
                        base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
                      Machine:
                        Type: Desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: FK790AAR-ABA m9400f v: N/A 
                        serial: <filter> 
                        Mobo: ECS model: Nettle3 v: 2.2 serial: <filter> BIOS: Phoenix v: 5.17 
                        date: 04/23/2008 
                      CPU:
                        Info: Quad Core model: AMD Phenom 9750 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: K10 rev: 3 
                        cache: L2: 2 MiB 
                        flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a svm bogomips: 19289 
                        Speed: 2400 MHz min/max: 1200/2400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2400 2: 2400 
                        3: 2400 4: 2400 
                      Graphics:
                        Device-1: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] vendor: ZOTAC driver: nouveau 
                        v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.0 
                        Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting 
                        unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz 
                        OpenGL: renderer: NVA8 v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes 
                      Audio:
                        Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 High Definition Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
                        driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:05.0 
                        Device-2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio vendor: ZOTAC driver: snd_hda_intel 
                        v: kernel bus-ID: 02:00.1 
                        Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
                      Network:
                        Device-1: NVIDIA MCP61 Ethernet vendor: Hewlett-Packard 
                        type: network bridge driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: ec00 
                        bus-ID: 00:07.0 
                        IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                        Device-2: Ralink RT2790 Wireless 802.11n 1T/2R PCIe vendor: Lite-On 
                        driver: rt2800pci v: 2.3.0 port: ac00 bus-ID: 03:00.0 
                        IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                        Device-3: Linksys WUSB600N v2 Dual-Band Wireless-N Network Adapter [Ralink 
                        RT3572] 
                        type: USB driver: rt2800usb bus-ID: 1-1:2 
                        IF: wlan1 state: up mac: <filter> 
                      Drives:
                        Local Storage: total: 931.52 GiB used: 4.9 GiB (0.5%) 
                        ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST3500320AS size: 465.76 GiB 
                        ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKB-00H8A0 
                        size: 465.76 GiB 
                      Partition:
                        ID-1: / size: 26.82 GiB used: 4.69 GiB (17.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 
                        mapped: root.fsm 
                        ID-2: /boot size: 487.2 MiB used: 102.3 MiB (21.0%) fs: ext4 
                        dev: /dev/sda1 
                        ID-3: /home size: 421.99 GiB used: 117.2 MiB (0.0%) fs: ext4 
                        dev: /dev/dm-1 mapped: 1.home.fsm 
                      Swap:
                        ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.98 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) 
                        dev: /dev/dm-2 mapped: swap 
                      Sensors:
                        System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 75.0 C 
                        Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
                      Info:
                        Processes: 177 Uptime: 16m Memory: 7.77 GiB used: 1.01 GiB (13.0%) 
                        Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1637 
                        Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06
                      #74721
                      Member
                      lapswimmer

                        @entropyagent: re installing on LVM:

                        I too attempted installing 21 on an LVM, though swap was an existing regular swap partition. I found the install stopped at 8 to 12%, failing to mount /dev/vgname-lvname. In my case, I used vg name of os and an lv name of antix. The lvm2 installed (from Debian) seems to put the symbolic names in /dev/vgname/lvname (NOT using a dash, but subdirectory structure). In my case, I formatted the lvm as ext4 in another linux since that had not been done. Could have done it from the antiX live session by referring to the right /dev/dm-#. Then in the live session I provided a symbolic link to the right dm-# from /dev/os-antix (generic /dev/vgname-lvname). I was able to complete installation. I choose NOT to install boot code since I have a more active but slow Linux installation on the computer already. That Linux was able to find the two initrd and vmlinuz files and add them to my grub choices. On booting, /dev/os-antix appears not to have been found and booting failed.

                        Finding and fixing wherever it is that the old /dev/vgname-lvname convention is assumed or getting all the lvm2 drivers to also produce /dev names in that form or finding a right version of lvm2 is beyond me, but I suspect it is doable.

                        Best

                        #74668
                        Member
                        ydek

                          can you post the output of this as a txt attachment or a screenshot of the system?

                          inxi -Fxz

                          Here is the output of the command: inxi -Fxz
                          System:
                            Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
                            v: 10.2.1 Desktop: IceWM 2.9.4
                            Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021
                            base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
                          Machine:
                            Type: Desktop Mobo: PCCHIPS model: A33G v: 1.0 serial: <filter>
                            BIOS: American Megatrends v: 080013 date: 07/07/2006
                          CPU:
                            Info: Single Core model: AMD Sempron 3000+ bits: 64 type: UP
                            arch: K8 rev.F+ rev: 2 cache: L2: 256 KiB
                            flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 bogomips: 3200
                            Speed: 1600 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 1600
                          Graphics:
                            Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or
                            662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
                            driver: N/A bus-ID: 01:00.0
                            Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: vesa
                            resolution: 640×480
                            OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 128 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5
                            direct render: Yes
                          Audio:
                            Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS7012 AC97 Sound
                            vendor: Elite driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.7
                            Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
                          Network:
                            Device-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 190 Ethernet Adapter
                            vendor: Elite driver: sis190 v: 1.4 port: d000 bus-ID: 00:04.0
                            IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
                          RAID:
                            Hardware-1: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 182 SATA/RAID Controller
                            driver: sata_sis v: 1.0 bus-ID: 00:05.0
                          Drives:
                            Local Storage: total: 298.09 GiB used: 3.65 GiB (1.2%)
                            ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK3265GSX size: 298.09 GiB
                          Partition:
                            ID-1: / size: 290 GiB used: 3.65 GiB (1.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
                          Swap:
                            ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.38 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%)
                            dev: /dev/sda2
                          Sensors:
                            System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A
                            Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
                          Info:
                            Processes: 129 Uptime: 7m Memory: 1.83 GiB used: 636.9 MiB (33.9%)
                            Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1213
                            Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06

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                          #74608
                          Member
                          blackwood

                            Not Exactly a new user, but I love this distro that’s keeping my 2010 macbook usable.

                            Thank you and happy new year.

                            System:
                              Kernel: 4.19.0-222-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
                                parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19.0-222-antix.1-amd64-smp
                                root=UUID=3dec26f2-62cf-47a0-985f-aa15d9ec4390 ro quiet nomodeset nouveau.modeset=0
                              Desktop: IceWM 2.9.4 vt: 7 dm: SLiM 1.3.6 Distro: antiX-19.4_x64-full Grup Yorum 20 May 2021
                                base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
                            Machine:
                              Type: Laptop System: Apple product: MacBook7,1 v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
                                type: 10 v: Mac-F22C89C8 serial: <superuser required>
                              Mobo: Apple model: Mac-F22C89C8 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Apple
                                v: MB71.88Z.003F.B00.1802022149 date: 02/02/18
                            Memory:
                              RAM: total: 1.69 GiB used: 1006.2 MiB (58.2%)
                              RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
                            PCI Slots:
                              Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
                            CPU:
                              Info: model: Intel Core2 Duo P8600 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core Penryn family: 6
                                model-id: 0x17 (23) stepping: 0xA (10) microcode: 0xA0B
                              Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB
                                L2: 3 MiB desc: 1x3 MiB
                              Speed (MHz): avg: 1592 high: 1593 min/max: 798/2394 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
                                governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1591 2: 1593 bogomips: 9556
                              Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cx16 cx8 de
                                ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est flexpriority fpu fxsr ht lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr
                                nopl nx pae pat pbe pdcm pebs pge pni pse pse36 pti rep_good sep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 ssse3
                                syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi xsave xtpr
                              Vulnerabilities:
                              Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
                              Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: EPT disabled
                              Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
                              Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
                              Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
                              Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
                              Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
                              Type: srbds status: Not affected
                              Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
                            Graphics:
                              Device-1: NVIDIA MCP89 [GeForce 320M] vendor: Apple driver: nvidia v: 340.108
                                alternate: nvidiafb,nouveau bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:08a0 class-ID: 0300
                              Device-2: Apple Built-in iSight type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-6:2 chip-ID: 05ac:8507
                                class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
                              Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: nvidia display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
                              Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1280x800 s-dpi: 112 s-size: 290x181mm (11.4x7.1") s-diag: 342mm (13.5")
                              Monitor-1: LVDS-0 res: 1280x800 hz: 60 dpi: 125 size: 261x163mm (10.3x6.4")
                                diag: 308mm (12.1")
                              OpenGL: renderer: GeForce 320M/integrated/SSE2 v: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.108 direct render: Yes
                            Audio:
                              Device-1: NVIDIA MCP89 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:08.0
                                chip-ID: 10de:0d94 class-ID: 0403
                              Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.19.0-222-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes
                              Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 12.2 running: no
                            Network:
                              Device-1: NVIDIA MCP89 Ethernet vendor: Apple driver: forcedeth v: kernel port: 22a0
                                bus-ID: 00:09.0 chip-ID: 10de:0d7d class-ID: 0200
                              IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
                              Device-2: Broadcom Limited BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n vendor: Apple AirPort Extreme driver: wl
                                v: kernel modules: bcma bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4353 class-ID: 0280
                              IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
                              IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
                              IP v6: <filter> scope: link
                              WAN IP: <filter>
                            Bluetooth:
                              Device-1: Apple Bluetooth Host Controller type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 4-6.3:6
                                chip-ID: 05ac:8218 class-ID: fe01
                              Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: stopped rfk-block: hardware: no
                                software: no address: <filter>
                              Info: acl-mtu: 1021:8 sco-mtu: 64:1 link-policy: rswitch hold sniff park
                                link-mode: slave accept
                            Logical:
                              Message: No logical block device data found.
                            RAID:
                              Message: No RAID data found.
                            Drives:
                              Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 16.27 GiB (13.6%)
                              SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
                              ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: SanDisk model: SD7SB3Q-128G-1006 size: 119.24 GiB
                                block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0006
                                scheme: GPT
                              Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: MATSHITA model: DVD-R UJ-898 rev: HD10
                                dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
                              Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r state: running
                            Partition:
                              ID-1: / raw-size: 11.63 GiB size: 11.39 GiB (97.89%) used: 5.27 GiB (46.3%) fs: ext4
                                dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: rootantiX19 uuid: 3dec26f2-62cf-47a0-985f-aa15d9ec4390
                              ID-2: /home raw-size: 104.7 GiB size: 102.56 GiB (97.95%) used: 11 GiB (10.7%) fs: ext4
                                dev: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 label: homeantiX uuid: 1f6d37f0-4a24-466f-91b0-308566ce1501
                            Swap:
                              Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 50 (default 100)
                              ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2.62 GiB used: 512 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda3
                                maj-min: 8:3 label: swapantiX uuid: d2febf72-a9fe-4129-bfb4-a5ff297c4601
                            Unmounted:
                              ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 256 MiB fs: vfat label: N/A uuid: 8DA4-228F
                            USB:
                              Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                                class-ID: 0900
                              Device-1: 1-6:2 info: Apple Built-in iSight type: Video driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 3
                                rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 05ac:8507 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter>
                              Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
                                class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                                class-ID: 0900
                              Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
                                class-ID: 0900
                              Device-1: 4-3:2 info: Apple Internal Keyboard/Trackpad (ISO) type: Keyboard,HID,Mouse
                                driver: apple,bcm5974,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 40mA
                                chip-ID: 05ac:0237 class-ID: 0301
                              Hub-5: 4-6:3 info: Broadcom BCM2046B1 USB 2.0 Hub (part of BCM2046 Bluetooth) ports: 3
                                rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 94mA chip-ID: 0a5c:4500 class-ID: 0900
                              Device-1: 4-6.3:6 info: Apple Bluetooth Host Controller type: Bluetooth driver: btusb
                                interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 05ac:8218 class-ID: fe01
                            Sensors:
                              System Temperatures: cpu: 64.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 70 C
                              Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
                            Repos:
                              Packages: apt: 1600 lib: 766
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list
                                1: deb http: //it.mxrepo.com/antix/buster/ buster main nonfree nosystemd
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/buster-backports.list
                                1: deb http: //deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main contrib non-free
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
                                1: deb http: //ftp.pt.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib non-free
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
                                1: deb http: //ftp.pt.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
                                2: deb http: //security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
                              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list
                              Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/signal-xenial.list
                                1: deb [arch=amd64 signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/signal-desktop-keyring.gpg] https: //updates.signal.org/desktop/apt xenial main
                              No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list
                            Processes:
                              CPU top: 5 of 139
                              1: cpu: 37.8% command: mpv pid: 4572 mem: 182.9 MiB (10.5%)
                              2: cpu: 25.1% command: firefox-esr pid: 11647 mem: 199.8 MiB (11.5%)
                              3: cpu: 13.7% command: firefox-esr pid: 11597 mem: 346.1 MiB (20.0%)
                              4: cpu: 7.0% command: firefox-esr pid: 11698 mem: 237.6 MiB (13.7%)
                              5: cpu: 5.7% command: xorg pid: 2529 mem: 73.9 MiB (4.2%)
                              Memory top: 5 of 139
                              1: mem: 346.1 MiB (20.0%) command: firefox-esr pid: 11597 cpu: 13.7%
                              2: mem: 237.6 MiB (13.7%) command: firefox-esr pid: 11698 cpu: 7.0%
                              3: mem: 199.8 MiB (11.5%) command: firefox-esr pid: 11647 cpu: 25.1%
                              4: mem: 182.9 MiB (10.5%) command: mpv pid: 4572 cpu: 37.8%
                              5: mem: 73.9 MiB (4.2%) command: xorg pid: 2529 cpu: 5.7%
                            Info:
                              Processes: 139 Uptime: 38m wakeups: 2 Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5
                              tool: service Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 Client: IceWM v: 2.9.4 inxi: 3.3.11
                            • This topic was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by blackwood.
                            #74476
                            Anonymous

                              Hey Folks,

                              Sorry, don’t mean to necrobump, but I just want to report that I am also getting this error.

                              $ inxi -zv7
                              System:    Kernel: 4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: i3 4.19.1-non-git info: i3bar 
                                         vt: 7 dm: N/A Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) 
                              Machine:   Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Latitude E7270 v: N/A serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 9 serial: <filter> 
                                         Mobo: Dell model: 0K4CNR v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.31.3 date: 10/13/2021 
                              Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 46.7 Wh (91.4%) condition: 51.1/55.0 Wh (92.9%) volts: 8.3 min: 7.6 
                                         model: LGC-LGC3.65 DELL NJJ2H type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging 
                              Memory:    RAM: total: 11.63 GiB used: 2.09 GiB (18.0%) 
                                         RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
                              CPU:       Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i5-6300U bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake rev: 3 cache: L2: 3 MiB 
                                         bogomips: 19968 
                                         Speed: 729 MHz min/max: 400/3000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 729 2: 747 3: 782 4: 759 
                                         Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon art avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush 
                                         clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma 
                                         fpu fsgsbase fxsr hle ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single kaiser 
                                         lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm 
                                         pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good rtm sdbg sep smap smep smx ss ssbd sse 
                                         sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic 
                                         xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr 
                              Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 
                                         chip-ID: 8086:1916 class-ID: 0300 
                                         Device-2: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-2:2 chip-ID: 0bda:5686 class-ID: 0e02 
                                         serial: <filter> 
                                         Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel resolution: 1366x768~60Hz s-dpi: 96 
                                         OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 11.0.1 256 bits) v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.5 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
                              Audio:     Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1f.3 
                                         chip-ID: 8086:9d70 class-ID: 0403 
                                         Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k4.9.0-279-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes 
                                         Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.19 running: yes 
                              Network:   Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: 3.2.6-k port: f040 bus-ID: 00:1f.6 
                                         chip-ID: 8086:156f class-ID: 0200 
                                         IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> 
                                         Device-2: Intel Wireless 8260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f040 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:24f3 
                                         class-ID: 0280 
                                         IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> 
                                         IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
                                         IP v6: <filter> scope: link 
                                         WAN IP: <filter> 
                              Bluetooth: Message: No bluetooth data found. 
                              Logical:   Message: No logical block device data found. 
                                         Device-1: swap type: LUKS dm: dm-1 size: 7.98 GiB 
                                         Components: p-1: sda4 
                                         Device-2: root.fsm type: LUKS dm: dm-0 size: 214.8 GiB 
                                         Components: p-1: sda3 
                              RAID:      Message: No RAID data found. 
                              Drives:    Local Storage: total: 223.57 GiB used: 46.31 GiB (20.7%) 
                                         ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WDS240G2G0B-00EPW0 size: 223.57 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s type: SSD 
                                         serial: <filter> rev: 0400 scheme: GPT 
                                         Message: No optical or floppy data found. 
                              Partition: ID-1: / size: 210.37 GiB used: 46.25 GiB (22.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 mapped: root.fsm label: N/A uuid: N/A 
                                         ID-2: /boot size: 487.2 MiB used: 52.3 MiB (10.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 label: boot 
                                         uuid: fbe4d676-c50b-4c52-a4b4-e8ffdaf792b0 
                                         ID-3: /boot/efi size: 252 MiB used: 9.2 MiB (3.6%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 label: EFI System uuid: 5C3B-F379 
                              Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.98 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -1 dev: /dev/dm-1 mapped: swap 
                                         label: swapantiX uuid: ce86bab7-039b-4a8e-a969-f5ca3b399251 
                              Unmounted: Message: No unmounted partitions found. 
                              USB:       Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 12 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900 
                                         Device-1: 1-2:2 info: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 
                                         speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA chip-ID: 0bda:5686 class-ID: 0e02 serial: <filter> 
                                         Device-2: 1-4:3 info: Microsoft Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID 
                                         driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 045e:0745 class-ID: 0300 
                                         Device-3: 1-7:4 info: Broadcom 5880 type: Smart Card driver: N/A interfaces: 4 rev: 1.1 speed: 480 Mb/s 
                                         power: 100mA chip-ID: 0a5c:5805 class-ID: 0b00 serial: <filter> 
                                         Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900 
                              Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 34.5 C mobo: N/A 
                                         Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
                              Info:      Processes: 211 Uptime: 7m wakeups: 3 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 
                                         Packages: apt: 1274 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 running-in: lxterminal inxi: 3.3.06 
                              #74326
                              Member
                              kbJFJF4fSzoJZw
                                # Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab
                                UUID=b716e404-aee8-4a7a-a693-d0d53118a7c8 / ext4 noatime 1 1
                                UUID=89b862e8-8899-4661-b29b-8dad22842327 swap swap defaults 0 0
                                /dev/cdrom                                 /media/cdrom                                iso9660    noauto,users,exec,ro            0 0
                                /dev/cdrw                                  /media/cdrw                                 iso9660    noauto,users,exec,rw            0 0
                                /dev/dvd                                   /media/dvd                                  udf        noauto,users,exec,ro            0 0
                                /dev/dvdrw                                 /media/dvdrw                                udf        noauto,users,exec,rw            0 0
                                /dev/fd0                                   /media/fd0                                  auto       noauto,users,exec,rw            0 0
                                /dev/sr0                                   /media/sr0                                  auto       noauto,users,exec,ro            0 0

                                I’ve disconnected the floppy drive and everything continues to work fine. So the problem was probably with the installation mode.

                                #74211
                                Member
                                PPC

                                  @skidoo- You are, as always correct on your analisys- but doesn’t the same thing apply to any “Trash can/ recycle bin”?
                                  And wouldn’t it be worse if the user removes folders/files in a OS that does not allow for easy “undo”?

                                  @All – Version 1.0 is out!
                                  Changes:
                                  -Thanks to BobC right clicking the Network toolbar icon makes a pop appear with info about your connection (it goes away after 20 seconds)
                                  -The calendar allows to add/edit events, by left clicking any date. The events are stored at ~/yad-calendar.txt (that can be manually edited in any text editor)
                                  -I swapped the last 2 Tiles, and pre added a last Tile to access gnome-clocks (that line has to be uncommented in tiles.csv)
                                  -Small edit in jgmenu-edit.desktop

                                  That’s all, folks, for now I packed as many features as I could, without any extra resource usage. There are still many things in my to-do list, but that’s for an eventual next release.

                                  If a bug/typo is found, let me know and I’ll try to solve it and update the package, but for now FT10 is in “feature freeze” – no feature will be added.
                                  Thanks to Marcelocripe and BobC, but specilly to Xecure ( that’s responsable for many features and the original packaging) for helping make FT10 what it currently is!
                                  If would be great to see FT10 (and jgmenu’s) packages added to the antiX repository, so installing it is even easier for the newbies it’s meant to help transition to antiX…

                                  Happy new year, everyone!

                                  • This reply was modified 1 year, 4 months ago by PPC.
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