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    namida12

      Xecure,

      Below is what shows in fstab:

      # Pluggable devices are handled by uDev, they are not in fstab   <---  Should I be using uDev instead of fstab?  
      UUID=42915636-f499-4f2f-a4b3-7d8b653a2416 / ext4 defaults,noatime 1 1
      UUID=5355c772-b18e-43cf-9ec3-33eedfb95a3a /home ext4 defaults,noatime 1 2
      UUID=cdc4e84b-8f50-43ad-aeae-1cf260df0c8e swap swap defaults 0 0 
      #-> /dev/nvme0n1p1
      UUID=58DB-7115                             /media/58DB-7115                            vfat       noauto,uid=1000,gid=users,dmask=002,fmask=113,users  0 0
      /dev/cdrom                                 /media/cdrom                                iso9660    noauto,exec,users,ro            0 0
      /dev/cdrw                                  /media/cdrw                                 iso9660    noauto,exec,users,rw            0 0
      /dev/dvd                                   /media/dvd                                  udf        noauto,exec,users,ro            0 0
      /dev/dvdrw                                 /media/dvdrw                                udf        noauto,exec,users,rw            0 0
      /dev/sr0                                   /media/sr0                                  auto       noauto,exec,users,ro            0 0
      

      Appears that the USB device is not showing.

      In your instructions this is all I want to do!
      2.2. Connect the device and manually mount the drive <— This is what I want to do, I do not have ability to find, locate and mount the exfat flash drive.

      JR

      • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by namida12.
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      mroot

        I think you may want to look at using zswap. Essentially zswap takes a portion of your ram (the default is 20%) and compresses it. This compressed memory can store a lot more information but is somewhat slower than regular uncompressed ram. It is however vastly faster than the swap on your hard drive. Here is a thread that talks about zswap.

        https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/using-zswap-instead-of-zram/

        Another option is zram which works in a similar way although I think zswap is probably a better choice for most people.

        Member
        namida12

          64gig fat32 USB drive mounts but 128gig exfat does not auto mount

          If I look in gparted I can see both drives. If I use yad (Unplug Removable Drive Icon in the panel) only the 64 gig drive is listed.

          Looking @ /media/green611 (Thumbs) I have one blue folder USB30FD that is the 64gig fat32…

          Seems the 128 gig flash drive is being seen by gparted, but not in media…

          What do I need to do for the exfat drive to automount, or force mount the flash drive?

          `$ inxi -F
          System: Host: green611 Kernel: 4.19.100-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 1.6.6
          Distro: antiX-19.2-4.19_kernel_x64-full Hannie Schaft 6 April 2020
          Machine: Type: Desktop Mobo: ASRock model: B450M Pro4 serial: <root required> UEFI [Legacy]: American Megatrends
          v: P3.90 date: 12/09/2019
          CPU: Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB
          Speed: 1860 MHz min/max: 1400/3700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1252 2: 1252 3: 1252 4: 2293 5: 1258 6: 1252
          7: 1253 8: 2294
          Graphics: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Picasso driver: N/A
          Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: vesa resolution: 1920×1080~N/A
          OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
          Audio: Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
          Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
          Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.100-antix.1-amd64-smp
          Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet driver: r8169
          IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: a8:a1:59:0d:db:5a
          Drives: Local Storage: total: 640.75 GiB used: 254.24 GiB (39.7%)
          ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Western Digital model: WDS500G3XHC-00SJG0 size: 465.76 GiB
          ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: PNY model: USB 3.0 FD size: 57.80 GiB
          ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB model: SMI USB size: 117.19 GiB
          Partition: ID-1: / size: 14.70 GiB used: 4.62 GiB (31.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
          ID-2: /home size: 434.06 GiB used: 192.24 GiB (44.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4
          ID-3: swap-1 size: 8.00 GiB used: 256 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
          Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 36.6 C mobo: N/A
          Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
          Info: Processes: 229 Uptime: 4d 17h 35m Memory: 13.62 GiB used: 2.26 GiB (16.6%) Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.36
          green611@green611:~

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          rayluo

            Thanks for all the valuable feedback in such a short time! I did not realize this turns out to be a much more common topic. 🙂 Please keep your opinions/workarounds coming.

            Hi. You can disable swap, if you want to. I think the command is: “swapoff -a” But I have no idea what the OS will do if the memory limit is exceeded…

            Yes, that was my first attempt to address this. Disabling swap on a hard disk has an interesting effect in that the computer would remain responsive when you reach to roughly 90% or even 95% of memory being used (as reported by antiX’s Task Manager). The computer remains responsive at this level, because there is no hard disk swap I/O to be conducted. If a swap on hard disk was being used, thrashing would likely already happen. However, unfortunately and disappointingly, somehow the unresponsiveness would still happen once you get closer to 100%. And, given that you did not enable swap in the first place, there is less overall memory available for your desktop session. So, that is not really a solution.

            Thanks rayluo for reporting results of this very interesting stress test. I believe this is not specific to antiX but I had no idea Linux would not be able to handle such simple condition… Googling around seems to confirm this is happening, so it is not just a unique condition.
            I was trying to test this on my laptop(s) but not able to exhaust memory (4GB) so I must rely on such reports, but as soon as I dig out 2GB laptop from my closet I will be glad to re-create this condition and experience this system failure myself… IMHO this seems to expose some fault (or sloppiness) in design of Linux core system as it is nowadays. …

            This situation seems to be recognized by some and architecture re-designed, such as Intel’s Clear Linux completely separates Linux system from the user files, so as to make the system stable and able to boot even if user messes things up. To accomplish this they abandoned /etc for system use and placed system files somewhere not polluted by user installs. The system no longer uses /etc folder.

            Out of curiosity I will remove some memory from a laptop running Clear Linux to test the ‘out of memory’ unresponsive system condition reported by rayluo to check if Intel was able to remedy this issue with this ‘rock solid’ as claimed Linux distro…

            It was not a stress testing. 🙂 You would easily reproduce this if you are surfing heavy websites in multi tabs, on a 2GB ram computer.

            I don’t know how big or deep this issue is. I thought there were supposed to be a configuration for this, otherwise how those Linux servers being able to run stably in last couple decades?

            In particular, I do not think Intel’s Clear Linux’s clever reconstructing directories would make any difference here. But I would be happy to be proved wrong here. 🙂

            I have experienced this before as well. The easiest way from my experience is to setup a keyboard shortcut to run a killall command for firefox (as most of my out of memory usage comes from firefox on the one pc).

            Thanks for confirmation!

            In one of my recent reply to the One-Tab plugin on Firefox, I mentioned to use just one mouse click to do the same job. Sometimes it would work.

            I suppose the second easiest thing to do would be … you could run a script to check for the process using the highest amount of ram and kill it.

            Sure that would mitigate a little bit. But there are supposed to be a better way for such a common need…

            Recently, Fedora implemented a so called Early OOM (Out of Memory) to deal with this issue.
            My quick search lead me to find that there is a package ‘earlyoom’ in the repositories.
            It is described at e.g. Debian packages and/or linux.

            Interesting. This sounds like an automated version of the self-developed script approach that Dave suggested. But does that also hint that there is NOT a simple configuration to turn on the “Windows XP behavior” that I described in OP?

            Changing parameter swappiness is also possible.

            I doubt whether that would help, given that the situation would still happen when using no swap at all. But still thanks.

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            Dave

              Hmm interesting point.
              I have experienced this before as well. The easiest way from my experience is to setup a keyboard shortcut to run a killall command for firefox (as most of my out of memory usage comes from firefox on the one pc). I suppose the second easiest thing to do would be a similar keyboard shortcut. However rather than running killall NAMED_PROGRAM_HERE, you could run a script to check for the process using the highest amount of ram and kill it. For example:
              ps -e -o size,pid,comm --sort=-size --no-header |head -1
              Would list all processes with the format virtual size, process id, command, sort them by virtual size in reverse order then select the top line/process.
              There are probably other items that would work better for a ram statistic in ps (man ps).
              From here you can cut the pid column value and insert that into a kill command (or brutally with kill -9) within the script. This relies on you to be the judge of when the system is running out of memory by seeing it limp.

              From here you could get more fancy in the script… monitoring the usage of memory via a watch script or a cron job or another program (conky maybe?) and running the script when the system determines high memory usage. This is overkill for me as the number of times and the reasoning I run out of memory are very low (normally catching me by surprise). However my *guess* at the most accurate way to monitor this would be to monitor/watch physical ram use vs the rate of swap within the script. If both are high then run the select highest ram use and kill part of the script. Perhaps with a notification sent when the kill command is successful. I think you can watch the rate of swap by looking at page swap values in /proc/vmstat
              cat /proc/vmstat |grep "psw"
              of course that would give you an instantaneous look a the total since boot. You would then need to poll this value in your script keeping record of the past two, three, or more times to determine a swap rate / spike. You could probably watch memory usage through /proc/meminfo or through programs like ps_mem.py or free (man free). Maybe there is a program that already does this…

              • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Dave.
              • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Dave.

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              sybok

                Recently, Fedora implemented a so called Early OOM (Out of Memory) to deal with this issue.
                My quick search lead me to find that there is a package ‘earlyoom’ in the repositories.
                It is described at e.g. Debian packages and/or linuxx.

                Changing parameter swappiness is also possible.

                • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by sybok.
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                PPC

                  Hi. You can disable swap, if you want to. I think the command is:

                  swapoff -a

                  But I have no idea what the OS will do if the memory limit is exceeded…

                  Some time ago I remember reading about something that does exactly what you want: when the available is fully used, I think the last opened program/more memory using program was closed- but I have no idea where I found that info…
                  My point: it can be done, and in antiX. Google “linux close program when out of memory”, try to find that info. If I recall where the link, I’ll post it here (I’m not even sure it was in a thread here or not).

                  P.

                  #37256
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                  Xecure

                    If it was me, I would use Suspend instead of hibernate, as suspends keeps things in RAM when “going to sleep”, while hibernate saves them in disk. With only 4 GB of space in your USB, (I don’t know if you also have swap in this same USB), you are a bit limited. Anyway, as using this option may be indespensable for you, I will just trust it is something needed. I missread. sorry. You are using suspend.

                    For editing boot parameters in live systems, you need to edit: /live/boot-dev/boot/grub/grub.cfg
                    Under your Custom entry, change the boot parameters there. Save persistent changes and reboot (no update grub needed).

                    EDIT: I searched, for the specific problem, and it seems that after waking up, the system changes the controller for the mouse/touchpad.
                    Your sugestion of editing the boot parameter should work.
                    quiet splash psmouse.proto=exps
                    should set the mouse to keep this controller “exps” running.

                    • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by Xecure.

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                    rayluo

                      Currently, antiX runs fine even on low end computers. But then when you (accidentally?) open one more tab in your browser, it would become the last straw and then your entire computer becomes very unresponsive (a.k.a. thrashing), and at that point you would likely need a hard shutdown and reboot. Such symptom would happen, seemingly regardless of whether I enable swap on hard disk, or use no swap at all.

                      I remember that, back in my Windows XP days, I could disable swap (it is named “pagefile” in Windows), so that my computer was fully operating on RAM only. When I’m about to open a new app Xyz, and if the computer was running out of memory, I would get a pop-up error window saying something like “there is not enough memory to run your program Xyz”. Of course, if that “offending” app happens to be my browser attempting to open a new tab, that entire browser process would be killed, and effectively free up all its previously consumed RAM. At least my entire desktop session remains as responsive as usual, therefore I would not lose – for example – my Word document being edited in a separated Word app.

                      Can antiX (or Linux, for that matter) be configured to still be responsive when running out of memory?

                      #36974
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                      rayluo

                        When the original post above was posted, I understood what such a one-tab plugin would do, and I thought it would be a “good-to-have”.

                        Turns out it is a life-saver, if some of your computer happen to be at the low-end of the spectrum (which might be the case in the community here).

                        Specifically, if a computer does not have plenty of memory yet you open too many tabs in your browser (who doesn’t?), a newly opened tab could become the last straw to bring your computer into Thrashing mode. The symptoms include: CPU usage go high (and go red); Hard disk light flashes (if you have a swap file on hard disk, that is); and the entire system become very unresponsive. At this point, if you do not want to reboot and lose all your current Desktop session, your only option would be: (1) to start a Terminal console; (2) Run a ps -ef|grep firefox to find its PIDs; (3) Run a kill PID to close Firefox. These procedure is slow because each keystroke would take seconds.

                        But if you have One-Tab plugin already installed, you just need one click on that funnel icon in your browser. And then get up to refill your coffee, when you come back, most likely One-Tab has closed all Firefox tabs for you.

                        Thanks @frtorres for sharing this useful tool!

                        #36882
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                        ModdIt

                          Hallo BobC, you wrote
                          maybe a pop up box with attributes to remember (if possible and delete) checkboxes would be a reasonable solution. I would expect people would set up the window defaults to match their workflow, and once setup they wouldn’t be changed often.

                          I agree that would be the most new user friendly solution.

                          As you noted it took a while to get things working with editing text files, especially as it looked at first as if Ice could do it without help of wmctrl. After i was unable to get my setup working, installed and use that to put applications in correct windows with startup file.

                          Once setup we have have found no need for changes. Our standard user for schoolkids and students opens Calc on 4, Writer on 3, Palemoon on 2, Last Claws on 1.
                          Claws is set to show all IMAP folders immediately as checking and answering mail is first step for all of us after login.

                          Depending on usage style LO Calc and Writer can be a bit touchy, at present we use –norestore –writer/calc to open them with fresh pages.
                          LO is set to autosave with a very short interval to avoid work loss.

                          That is a workaround for users (kids or “angry parents”) just powering off instead of correctly saving work then shutting down, also helps in power outages caused by roadworks in our area.

                          My setup uses 6 workspaces at present, switching with Alt 1 to 6 is near instant. I have 2 Gig RAM and rarely see swapping whatever I do. Feels more natural to me than tiling or stacking window management with a couple of desktops.

                          Thanks for your input PPC, we all are working in same direction it seems, just slightly different routes along the way. :-).

                          #36862
                          Member
                          ModdIt

                            Hallo BobC,
                            thanks for the very useful script, not sure if I can do it, a version with addition of remembering “which desktop” together with the position and size as well as setup autostart would mean new users can setup an efficient working environment more easily, yet another step toward perfection along with Antix performance light weight and elegance.

                            Once autostarting an environment in a system has been experienced it feels crazy to have to click around with the mouse, switch desktops setup window sizes before getting anything useful done.

                            Our work boxes are around 9 to 13 years old but after installing ssd cope well. Ram usage in Conky display right now, 752M, Swap 512. Claws open on WS1, Palemoon on 2, along with Rox filer and Mirage window, and the Firefox I am writing this with. LO Calc on 3 Writer on 4.

                            Antix magic on a box that was saved from the dump because too weak for windoze 10.. Many Thanks to all who make this possible.

                            #36477
                            Member
                            frazelle09

                              Dear Bob: Thanks for replying and offering to help! i changed the theme to clearview and can now see the icons a little better. i’m using ethernet at the present and can see the icon with the two arrows very clearly. When i left click i get no list of networks… Oh, this cannot be. With a dark DE background i can see what looks like a white window with an up arrow at the top and a down arrow at the botton. It appears that there is some info bet. these two arrows but the line has such a short height that it isn’t shown..

                              inxi -Fxz..
                              System:
                              Host: PequesLappy Kernel: 4.9.212-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32
                              compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.6.5
                              Distro: antiX-19.2.1_386-base Hannie Schaft 29 March 2020
                              base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
                              Machine:
                              Type: Portable System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite M45 v: PSM40U-07X001
                              serial: <filter>
                              Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: Version A0 serial: <filter>
                              BIOS: TOSHIBA v: Version 1.60 date: 05/27/2005
                              Battery:
                              ID-1: BAT1 charge: 50.3 Wh condition: 50.1/64.5 Wh (78%)
                              model: PA3399U-1BAS/BRS status: Unknown
                              CPU:
                              Topology: Single Core model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 type: MCP
                              arch: M Dothan rev: 8 L2 cache: 2048 KiB
                              flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 1995
                              Speed: 1000 MHz min/max: 600/1600 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 1000
                              Graphics:
                              Device-1: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics
                              vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel
                              bus ID: 00:02.0
                              Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
                              unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280×800~60Hz
                              OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6
                              direct render: Yes
                              Audio:
                              Device-1: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW AC97 Audio
                              vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel
                              bus ID: 00:1e.2
                              Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.212-antix.1-486-smp
                              Network:
                              Device-1: Marvell 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet
                              vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: sky2 v: 1.30 port: c000
                              bus ID: 01:00.0
                              IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
                              Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network driver: ipw2200
                              v: 1.2.2kmprq port: c000 bus ID: 05:04.0
                              IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
                              Drives:
                              Local Storage: total: 74.53 GiB used: 5.37 GiB (7.2%)
                              ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST980815A size: 74.53 GiB
                              Partition:
                              ID-1: / size: 70.86 GiB used: 5.37 GiB (7.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
                              ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 340 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
                              Sensors:
                              System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: 43.0 C
                              Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
                              Info:
                              Processes: 137 Uptime: 9m Memory: 486.2 MiB used: 267.5 MiB (55.0%)
                              Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
                              inxi: 3.0.36

                              Have a wonderful day, stay safe and be happy! 🙂

                              TEst, test

                              "The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."
                              BahĂĄ'u'llĂĄh
                              "La tierra es un sĂłlo paĂ­s y la humanidad sus ciudadanos."

                              #36474
                              Member
                              frazelle09

                                Dear Bob: Thanks for replying and offering to help! i changed the theme to clearview and can now see the icons a little better. i’m using ethernet at the present and can see the icon with the two arrows very clearly. When i left click i get no list of networks… Oh, this cannot be. With a dark DE background i can see what looks like a white window with an up arrow at the top and a down arrow at the botton. It appears that there is some info bet. these two arrows but the line has such a short height that it isn’t shown..

                                inxi -Fxz..
                                System:
                                Host: PequesLappy Kernel: 4.9.212-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32
                                compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.6.5
                                Distro: antiX-19.2.1_386-base Hannie Schaft 29 March 2020
                                base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
                                Machine:
                                Type: Portable System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite M45 v: PSM40U-07X001
                                serial: <filter>
                                Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: Version A0 serial: <filter>
                                BIOS: TOSHIBA v: Version 1.60 date: 05/27/2005
                                Battery:
                                ID-1: BAT1 charge: 50.3 Wh condition: 50.1/64.5 Wh (78%)
                                model: PA3399U-1BAS/BRS status: Unknown
                                CPU:
                                Topology: Single Core model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 type: MCP
                                arch: M Dothan rev: 8 L2 cache: 2048 KiB
                                flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 1995
                                Speed: 1000 MHz min/max: 600/1600 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 1000
                                Graphics:
                                Device-1: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics
                                vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel
                                bus ID: 00:02.0
                                Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel
                                unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280×800~60Hz
                                OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6
                                direct render: Yes
                                Audio:
                                Device-1: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW AC97 Audio
                                vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel
                                bus ID: 00:1e.2
                                Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.212-antix.1-486-smp
                                Network:
                                Device-1: Marvell 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet
                                vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: sky2 v: 1.30 port: c000
                                bus ID: 01:00.0
                                IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
                                Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network driver: ipw2200
                                v: 1.2.2kmprq port: c000 bus ID: 05:04.0
                                IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter>
                                Drives:
                                Local Storage: total: 74.53 GiB used: 5.37 GiB (7.2%)
                                ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST980815A size: 74.53 GiB
                                Partition:
                                ID-1: / size: 70.86 GiB used: 5.37 GiB (7.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
                                ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 340 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
                                Sensors:
                                System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: 43.0 C
                                Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
                                Info:
                                Processes: 137 Uptime: 9m Memory: 486.2 MiB used: 267.5 MiB (55.0%)
                                Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3
                                inxi: 3.0.36

                                Have a wonderful day, stay safe and be happy! 🙂

                                • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by frazelle09.

                                "The earth is one country and mankind its citizens."
                                BahĂĄ'u'llĂĄh
                                "La tierra es un sĂłlo paĂ­s y la humanidad sus ciudadanos."

                                #36473
                                Member
                                frazelle09

                                  Dear Bob: Thanks for replying and offering to help! i changed the theme to clearview and can now see the icons a little better. i’m using ethernet at the present and can see the icon with the two arrows very clearly. When i left click i get no list of networks… Oh, this cannot be. With a dark DE background i can see what looks like a white window with an up arrow at the top and a down arrow at the botton. It appears that there is some info bet. these two arrows but the line has such a short height that it isn’t shown..

                                   inxi -Fxz..
                                  System:
                                    Host: PequesLappy Kernel: 4.9.212-antix.1-486-smp i686 bits: 32 
                                    compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.6.5 
                                    Distro: antiX-19.2.1_386-base Hannie Schaft 29 March 2020 
                                    base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster) 
                                  Machine:
                                    Type: Portable System: TOSHIBA product: Satellite M45 v: PSM40U-07X001 
                                    serial: <filter> 
                                    Mobo: TOSHIBA model: Portable PC v: Version A0 serial: <filter> 
                                    BIOS: TOSHIBA v: Version 1.60 date: 05/27/2005 
                                  Battery:
                                    ID-1: BAT1 charge: 50.3 Wh condition: 50.1/64.5 Wh (78%) 
                                    model: PA3399U-1BAS/BRS status: Unknown 
                                  CPU:
                                    Topology: Single Core model: Intel Pentium M bits: 32 type: MCP 
                                    arch: M Dothan rev: 8 L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
                                    flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 1995 
                                    Speed: 1000 MHz min/max: 600/1600 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 1000 
                                  Graphics:
                                    Device-1: Intel Mobile 915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics 
                                    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: i915 v: kernel 
                                    bus ID: 00:02.0 
                                    Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel 
                                    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280x800~60Hz 
                                    OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 915GM x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 
                                    direct render: Yes 
                                  Audio:
                                    Device-1: Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW AC97 Audio 
                                    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: snd_intel8x0 v: kernel 
                                    bus ID: 00:1e.2 
                                    Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.212-antix.1-486-smp 
                                  Network:
                                    Device-1: Marvell 88E8036 PCI-E Fast Ethernet 
                                    vendor: Toshiba America Info Systems driver: sky2 v: 1.30 port: c000 
                                    bus ID: 01:00.0 
                                    IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
                                    Device-2: Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG [Calexico2] Network driver: ipw2200 
                                    v: 1.2.2kmprq port: c000 bus ID: 05:04.0 
                                    IF: eth1 state: down mac: <filter> 
                                  Drives:
                                    Local Storage: total: 74.53 GiB used: 5.37 GiB (7.2%) 
                                    ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST980815A size: 74.53 GiB 
                                  Partition:
                                    ID-1: / size: 70.86 GiB used: 5.37 GiB (7.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 
                                    ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 340 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2 
                                  Sensors:
                                    System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: 43.0 C 
                                    Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
                                  Info:
                                    Processes: 137 Uptime: 9m Memory: 486.2 MiB used: 267.5 MiB (55.0%) 
                                    Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 
                                    inxi: 3.0.36

                                  Have a wonderful day, stay safe and be happy! 🙂

                                  What a mess. i can’t even get this to post. Grrr.

                                  • This reply was modified 2 years, 11 months ago by frazelle09.

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