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August 21, 2021 at 6:26 pm #65341Member
calciumsodium
::On an installed version of B2-runit version, the first program that I installed was kodi.
I got this display:Setting up kodi (2:19.1+dfsg2-2) ... Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.26-1) ... Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme (0.17-2) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-13) ... Processing triggers for man-db (2.9.4-2) ... Processing triggers for mailcap (3.69) ... Available xsessions have changed Updating Slimski /etc/slimski.local.conf Writing file: /usr/share/desktop-session/wm-menus/fluxbox-wm-menu Writing file: /usr/share/desktop-session/wm-menus/icewm-wm-menu Writing file: /usr/share/desktop-session/wm-menus/jwm-wm-menu Writing file: /usr/share/desktop-session/wm-menus/RAW-wm-menu Writing Menu: icewm Writing Menu: fluxbox Writing Menu: jwmThat is the first time that I have seen this message:
Available xsessions have changed
Updating Slimski /etc/slimski.local.confWhen I installed another program, I did not see the above two lines.
Also,
when I tried to install my favorite Kodi addon within Kodi, I saw this error message:
The dependency on script.module.six version 0.0.0 could not be satisfied. This is the first time that I have seen this error message. I have installed this addon many times on antiX-bullseye A2 and B1 on Kodi 19.1 without any problems. I don’t know if it has to do with this B2 version or recent changes to the Debian bullseye repos. For those that use Kodi, can you also please try to install your addons using this B2 version and share your experience?Update: I copied the .kodi folder from a working kodi on my antiX-bullseye-B1 system to this B2-system and kodi works with this addon. Therefore, it is not this B2-system, but has something to do with this kodi from the Debian repos that I just installed.
- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by calciumsodium. Reason: update on kod
August 21, 2021 at 6:46 pm #65342Member
andyprough
::Excellent – You made the tag numbers clickable in herbstluftwm!! I’m hooked already. And 9 tags. And roxterm. This is looking really good.
Look at this nifty little piece of programming to create the clickable tags – nice work @anticapitalista :
if [ ! -z "$dzen2_svn" ] ; then # clickable tags if using SVN dzen echo -n "^ca(1,$hc_quoted focus_monitor \"$monitor\" && " echo -n "$hc_quoted use \"${i:1}\") ${i:1} ^ca()" else # non-clickable tags if using older dzen echo -n " ${i:1} "- This reply was modified 1 year, 8 months ago by andyprough.
August 21, 2021 at 7:19 pm #65345Membercalciumsodium
::The Unplug Removable Device button in the taskbar does not work for me. It shows that it does click, but no action.
August 21, 2021 at 7:21 pm #65346Member
Xecure
::There is a problem getting to herbstluft from the live boot menus. I will see what happened there.
This line needs to changed to:
desktop "desktop=herbstluftwm " "Herbstluftwm " \
the min-herbstluft is no used anymore, and slimski can only recognize the sessiontype “herbstluftwm”That is the first time that I have seen this message:
Available xsessions have changed
Updating Slimski /etc/slimski.local.confThis is the new change I added to the apt hook so that it correctly updates the slimski login options. It also updates the Other desktop menus, but it already did this before. I just added the extra informative messages “xsessions have changed” and an explanation of what file is edited for slimski’s sessiontypes.
when I tried to install my favorite Kodi addon within Kodi, I saw this error message:
The dependency on script.module.six version 0.0.0 could not be satisfied.If possible, compare the sources between b1 (pre-stable) and b2 (current stable). It is possible that a deb-multimedia repo is missing or something. I will have a look in a bit.
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.August 21, 2021 at 7:29 pm #65347Member
Xecure
::The Unplug Removable Device button in the taskbar does not work for me. It shows that it does click, but no action.
Robin’s last changes requires it to start with root privileges. The button needs to change to
gksudo unplugdrive.sh
I will see what version of desktop-defaults-icewm-antix is up on gitlab and send a merge request.antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.August 21, 2021 at 8:05 pm #65348Membercalciumsodium
::gksudo unplugdrive.sh
Just curious,
the format in ~/.icewm/toolbaris
su-to-root -X -c
instead of gksudo. Does it matter
between
su-to-root -X -c unplugdrive.sh vs gksudo unplugdrive.shAugust 21, 2021 at 8:10 pm #65349Member
Xecure
::the format in ~/.icewm/toolbar
is
su-to-root -X -c
instead of gksudo. Does it matterI could change it to su-to-root instead (any of them work). I just created the merge request, but if anticapitalista prefers su-to-root I will change the toolbar entries and add a new commit.
antiX Live system enthusiast.
General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.August 21, 2021 at 8:46 pm #65350Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::Thanks for the feedback so far.
I’d like some feedback from users who have tried printing, scanning, bluetooth devices, exfat partitioned usb devices, phone connections, tethering etc.
Also, some comments on stability, speed, RAM usage would be useful.
Doesn’t matter if it is running live or installed.
ThanksPhilosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
August 21, 2021 at 9:08 pm #65352Membercalciumsodium
::some comments on … RAM usage would be useful.
Concerning ram usage, after B2-runit boots, the baseline ram is 177 Mb. I then installed several programs via terminal and closed out the terminal window. Without any major application running, the ram did not go back to the baseline 177 Mb. It stayed at 277 Mb. I included a screenshot of the ram usage:
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August 21, 2021 at 9:15 pm #65354Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::So is that better/worse/on a par with sysvinit/previous versions? Thanks
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
August 21, 2021 at 9:18 pm #65355Membercalciumsodium
::I’d like some feedback … exfat partitioned usb devices …
I have a Samsung 60 Gb USB drive formatted with exfat partitioning. It would not properly mount for me in antiX 19. I thought that I would only use it for Windows systems. This drive mounts and transfers data great in this B2-runit system.
August 21, 2021 at 9:33 pm #65356Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::This is just some data from how I use antiX – it compares antiX-19 (heavily modified) and antiX-21 (beta and also modified.
I run herbstluftwm and aim to keep the footprint as low as possible by turing off/removing services I don’t need.* Boot time from grub to herbstluftwm desktop antiX-19 - 11.73 secs antiX-21 - 8.62 secs* RAM usage according to ps_mem.py script antiX-19: Private + Shared = RAM used Program 92.0 KiB + 23.5 KiB = 115.5 KiB runit 108.0 KiB + 30.5 KiB = 138.5 KiB runsvdir 132.0 KiB + 82.5 KiB = 214.5 KiB sleep 172.0 KiB + 49.5 KiB = 221.5 KiB ifup 200.0 KiB + 41.5 KiB = 241.5 KiB anacron 208.0 KiB + 39.5 KiB = 247.5 KiB sh 292.0 KiB + 196.5 KiB = 488.5 KiB herbstclient 364.0 KiB + 142.5 KiB = 506.5 KiB dbus-launch 464.0 KiB + 208.5 KiB = 672.5 KiB runsv (7) 408.0 KiB + 315.5 KiB = 723.5 KiB getty (3) 760.0 KiB + 291.5 KiB = 1.0 MiB desktop-session 1.0 MiB + 319.5 KiB = 1.3 MiB sudo 828.0 KiB + 575.0 KiB = 1.4 MiB dbus-daemon (2) 1.4 MiB + 125.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB awk 1.5 MiB + 25.5 KiB = 1.5 MiB wpa_supplicant 1.5 MiB + 439.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB ntpd 1.1 MiB + 859.5 KiB = 1.9 MiB dzen2 1.3 MiB + 782.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB gnome-keyring-daemon 2.0 MiB + 343.5 KiB = 2.3 MiB udevd 1.6 MiB + 1.0 MiB = 2.5 MiB console-kit-daemon 2.6 MiB + 1.3 MiB = 3.9 MiB herbstluftwm 2.5 MiB + 3.0 MiB = 5.5 MiB dhclient (3) 4.1 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 5.6 MiB bash (7) 4.4 MiB + 1.5 MiB = 5.9 MiB slim 10.1 MiB + 6.8 MiB = 16.8 MiB urxvt (4) 24.2 MiB + 1.0 MiB = 25.3 MiB Xorg --------------------------------- 84.0 MiB ================================= antiX-21: Private + Shared = RAM used Program 92.0 KiB + 42.5 KiB = 134.5 KiB runit 108.0 KiB + 45.5 KiB = 153.5 KiB runsvdir 124.0 KiB + 115.5 KiB = 239.5 KiB sleep 200.0 KiB + 170.5 KiB = 370.5 KiB runsv (3) 316.0 KiB + 116.5 KiB = 432.5 KiB getty 304.0 KiB + 287.5 KiB = 591.5 KiB herbstclient 804.0 KiB + 410.5 KiB = 1.2 MiB desktop-session 1.5 MiB + 208.5 KiB = 1.7 MiB awk 1.0 MiB + 866.5 KiB = 1.8 MiB dzen2 1.4 MiB + 732.5 KiB = 2.2 MiB sudo 2.0 MiB + 412.5 KiB = 2.4 MiB udevd 2.0 MiB + 1.6 MiB = 3.6 MiB bash (6) 2.6 MiB + 1.4 MiB = 4.0 MiB herbstluftwm 3.7 MiB + 292.5 KiB = 4.0 MiB dhclient 4.8 MiB + 1.8 MiB = 6.6 MiB slimski 10.0 MiB + 2.8 MiB = 12.9 MiB urxvt (2) 26.7 MiB + 1.2 MiB = 27.9 MiB Xorg --------------------------------- 70.0 MiB =================================Finally, pstree showing running services.
antiX-19:
pstree
runit─┬─anacron───sh───run-parts───apt-compat───sleep
├─bash─┬─bash─┬─bash─┬─bash───awk
│ │ │ └─sleep
│ │ └─herbstclient
│ ├─bash
│ └─dzen2
├─console-kit-dae───4*[{console-kit-dae}]
├─dbus-daemon
├─dbus-launch
├─2*[dhclient]
├─rox───leafpad
├─runsvdir─┬─runsv───udevd
│ ├─runsv───slim─┬─Xorg───2*[{Xorg}]
│ │ └─desktop-session───herbstluftwm─┬─firefox-esr─┬─Privileged Cont───23*[{Privileged Cont}]
│ │ │ ├─Web Content───23*[{Web Content}]
│ │ │ ├─Web Content───17*[{Web Content}]
│ │ │ ├─WebExtensions───21*[{WebExtensions}]
│ │ │ └─57*[{firefox-esr}]
│ │ └─urxvt─┬─bash───pstree
│ │ └─urxvt
│ ├─3*[runsv───getty]
│ ├─runsv───dbus-daemon
│ └─runsv───ntpd───{ntpd}
└─wpa_supplicantantiX-21:
runit-+-bash-+-bash-+-bash-+-bash—awk
| | | `-sleep
| | `-herbstclient
| |-bash
| `-dzen2
|-dhclient—3*[{dhclient}]
`-runsvdir-+-runsv—udevd
|-runsv—slimski-+-Xorg—5*[{Xorg}]
| `-desktop-session—herbstluftwm—urxvt-+-bash—pstree
| `-urxvt
`-runsv—gettyPhilosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
August 21, 2021 at 9:38 pm #65357MemberPPC
::I just tested runit beta2 on a virtual machine:
-It feels fast
-It looks great – I love the new desktops, the new log-in manager
-I tip my hat to skidoo and the folks that themed the log-in manager- it looks amazing for a low footprint piece of software! And it’s localized too!… This leads to the next point:
-antiX is now much more localized- stuff like set time & date, select new wallpaper, now are multi-lingual.
– I’m a great fan of zzzfm- I helped test it and translate it- if you choose a desktop that starts with “zzz” you’ll end up with a a spacefm spin off that runs fast, with almost the same RAM foot print as the default Rox file manager. I liked the fact that it comes as secondary File Manager and now shows the bookmarks and the devices list- looking very similar to User Interface most people are used to
– About the RAM usage, on zzz-icewm it runs on about 150 mb on my virtual box test- pretty nice for a latest version of Debian- I haven’t tested it much…
– I tested HerbWM- true that I had a bit more experience with it, but now, clicking the “tag” on the top, made it much more usable for someone that (like I’ve always been- knows a few keyboard shortcuts but is too used to click on stuff)
– What the hell? It comes with Firefox ESR AND Firefox? Or was that a dmenu bug, on herbWM?Suggestions-
-unplugdrive.sh- I’m not aware of the security risks, but Robin suggested a way to automatically run the script in root mode- most users won’t like having to type the password to eject a pendrive…
-On zzz-icewm- the “root file manager” toolbar icon lunched “rox” not “zzzfm in root mode”
-Use pt-br gksu localization files as pt-pt localization files- the gksu interface in pt-pt is unlocalized- it’s a shame that something as important has the prompt to enter a password is not localized (true that about 99% of users probably understand what it means…- but hey, there’s already a localization file available… might as well use it)
-…When I have the time to test it a bit more, I’ll have some more suggestions…Note- testing b2 on virtualbox made the vm crash- opening a web site in herbWM, in firefox- virtualbox now crashes every time I try to click that vm now… I’ll reboot and try again…
Verdict:
I only tested it for less than 10 minutes before my VM craped out but this version looks great, feels snappier, is almost completely localized.
It feels polished- it’s almost like having a shiny new device instead of a PC that is almost old enough to vote…
As always my thanks to anti and to the entire dev team and translator team
