64 bit only – antiX-21-runit-beta2 available for testing.

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  • #65365
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    After rebooting, Virtualbox is running b2’s Virtual Machine again:

    small suggestions:
    -in zzzmf disable showing hidden files/folders by default (it may be confusing for some users)
    – I tested creating a file called x.deb, to see it gdebi would try to install it- is there no GUI way to install a .deb file? I wrote a small GUI script to install/purge deb files (basicly a GUI to run “sudo apt install” or “sudo apt purge” from a file manager)- it’s far from perfect- it just installs and removes .deb packages, but it’s light and as safe to use as the terminal… (it’s available in the antix-contribs package (https://gitlab.com/antix-contribs/contribs-goodies)

    Remaks:
    -RAM usage on idle (on legacy kernel)- icewm: 110-112mb, fluxbox: 108-109mb!!! What??? What black magic is anticapitalista using to achieve this?
    -this b2 boots almost as fast as 10.X coming out of sleep…

    P.

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    Hello everyone.

    I managed to download the ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso”, I had no problems downloading it using a download manager program. The tests I did were using the ISO on a USB stick set up with Ventoy. Unfortunately, I will not have the time available to do the amount of testing I would like to do, so I will leave here my general impressions, those that my eyes can easily see.

    It was possible to boot normally in pt-BR language, the ISO boot menus are OK, both the first level of choice of language and kernel that will be booted, and the second level menu, both are with the texts that I inserted in Transifex.

    After the antiX has booted, I have noticed that the texts in the menus are still out of date with the texts that are available in Transifex. It is the same texts that are in the antiX 19.4 ISO, i.e. the menus that I see in the “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” ISO have texts in “en”, “en-GB” and “en” languages. Please anticapitalist, when building the new ISOs, always consider using the latest files that are available on Transifex (antix-development, antix-linux-community-contributions, if using SpaceFM from ignorantguru). This way, it ensures that the ISO receives the most recently revised texts (texts with better translation adaptation of the texts translated by internet translators, fewer grammatical errors, better understanding of my programs to better adapt the translation, etc.).

    I was able to switch between all desktops successfully. The zzzFM file manager opened extremely fast compared to antiX 19.4’s SpaceFM in a test under equivalent conditions.

    I went to Control Center > Login > Login Manager (not translated to “Gerenciador de Início de Sessão”), opened the password prompt box and the program opened normally. Same test, trying to open via Menu, antiX, Login Manager (is translated ok to pt-BR), I get an English language message:
    “Yad
    You need to be root!
    Cannot continue.

    The “Login Manager” program does not start with the menu click, it only starts if it is through the Control Center or through the command in Terminal.

    I tested slimski’s themes:

    The themes that remain in English language only are “ax” and “apartment”.
    The “Space” theme is all translated (this is excellent!) and “default” only doesn’t display the text “Username”, maybe due to the limited space, the other texts are translated ok.
    One detail, at each theme change, when antiX is started, the theme background image started to take the place of the desktop background image, depending on the desktop, the default background image was replaced by the slimski theme image. On some desktops this did not happen.
    The “antiX” theme has a sentence in English (Press F1 to toggle sessions) that I think should not be displayed, the other texts are ok in Brazilian Portuguese.
    The themes “antiXIce”, “BlueLines”, “BlueLinesLigth”, “DarkCity”, “PrettyPink” and “SunnyDay” are not translated only the texts “Username” and “Password”, the other texts are ok.

    The text “% host login”, where is the “%” always displays the text “antix1”, is this correct? Or should it display the username? Or should it display only antiX?

    Double-click mouse sensitivity (Suggestion):
    In the program “ds-mouse” could you have control of the sensitivity/speed of the double mouse click?

    Toobar Icon Manager (problem continues):
    The list that is displayed in the Toolbar Icon Manager for IceWM (TIM) is not localized to “en-BR”, it only displays the “en” texts that are in the “.desktop” shortcut files. I believe that TIM cannot display the four-letter language texts in the list. For more information, please refer to the topic https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/toolbar-icon-manager-list-for-icewm-is-not-located-for-pt-br/. This means that the shortcut icon texts that are inserted into the Toolbar are displayed in either “en” or “en”, so it does not display the shortcut icons with “en-GB” texts.

    Personal Menu > Personal Menu Help Video:
    Displays the message:
    “Streamlight
    Livestreamer reported an error. See log for detais

    I have never seen this “Personal Menu Help Video” menu working, what is the purpose of this menu?

    I hope everyone can correctly understand my text and my intention is to help that are automatically translated by the internet translator.

    Thank you very much.

    marcelocripe
    (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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    Olá a todos.

    Eu consegui baixar a ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso”, não tive problemas para baixar utilizando um programa gerenciador de transferências. Os testes que eu fiz foram utilizando a ISO em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy. Infelizmente, eu não terei tempo disponível para fazer a quantidade de testes que eu gostaria de fazer, por isso deixarei aqui as minhas impressões gerais, aquelas que os meus olhos conseguem ver facilmente.

    Foi possível iniciar normalmente em idioma pt-BR, os menus de inicialização da ISO estão OK, tanto o primeiro nível de escolha do idioma e do kernel que será iniciado, quanto o menu do segundo nível, ambos estão com os textos que eu inseri no Transifex.

    Após o antiX inicializar, eu consegui observar que os textos exibidos nos menus permanecem desatualizados em relação aos textos que estão disponíveis no Transifex. São os mesmos textos que estão na ISO do antiX 19.4, ou seja, nos menus que eu vejo na ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” possuem textos em idioma “pt”, “pt-BR” e em “en”. Por favor, anticapitalista, quando for construir as novas ISOs, considere sempre utilizar os arquivos mais recentes que estão disponíveis no Transifex (antix-development, antix-linux-community-contributions, se for utilizar o SpaceFM do ignorantguru). Desta forma, garante que a ISO receba os textos com a revisão mais recente (textos com melhor adaptação da tradução dos textos traduzidos pelos tradutores da internet, menos erros de gramática, melhor compreensão minha dos programas para adaptar melhor a tradução, etc.).

    Eu consegui alternar entre todas as áreas de trabalho com sucesso. O gerenciador de arquivos zzzFM abriu extremamente rápido se comparado ao SpaceFM do antiX 19.4 em um teste em condições equivalentes.

    Eu acessei o Centro de Controle > Sessão > Login Manager (não está traduzido para “Gerenciador de Início de Sessão”), abriu a caixa de solicitação de senha e o programa abriu normalmente. O mesmo teste, tentando abrir via Menu, antiX, Gerenciador de Início de Sessão (está traduzido ok para pt-BR), eu recebo uma mensagem em idioma inglês:
    “Yad
    You need to be root!
    Cannot continue.

    O programa “Gerenciador de Início de Sessão” não inicia com o clique no menu, só inicia se for através do Centro de Controle ou através do comando no Terminal.

    Testei os temas do slimski:

    Os temas que permanecem apenas em idioma Inglês são “ax” e “flat”.
    O tema “Space” está todo traduzido (isto é excelente!) e “default” só não exibe o texto “Nome de Usuário”, talvez devido ao espaço ser limitado, os demais textos estão traduzidos ok.
    Um detalhe, a cada troca de tema, quando é iniciado o antiX, a imagem de fundo do tema passou a ocupar o lugar da imagem de fundo da área de trabalho, dependendo da área de trabalho, a imagem padrão de fundo foi substituída pela imagem do tema do slimski. Em algumas áreas de trabalho isto não aconteceu.
    O tema “antiX” possui uma frase em Inglês (Press F1 to toggle sessions) que eu acho que não deveria estar sendo exibida, os demais textos estão ok em Português do Brasil.
    Os temas “antiXIce”, “BlueLines”, “BlueLinesLigth”, “DarkCity”, “PrettyPink” e “SunnyDay” só não estão traduzidos os textos “Username” e “Password”, os outros textos estão traduzidos ok.

    O texto “% host login”, onde está o “%” sempre exibe o texto “antix1”, isto está correto? Ou deveria exibir o nome de usuário? Ou deveria exibir apenas antiX?

    Sensibilidade do duplo clique do rato (Sugestão):
    No programa “ds-mouse” poderia ter o controle da sensibilidade/velocidade do duplo clique do rato?

    Toobar Icon Manager (o problema continua):
    A lista que é exibida no Gerenciador de Ícones da Barra de Ferramentas para o IceWM (TIM) não está localizada para “pt-BR”, exibe somente os textos em “pt” que estão nos arquivos de atalho “.desktop”. Eu acredito que o TIM não consegue exibir na lista os textos dos idioma de quatro letras. Para obter mais informações, por favor, consulte o tópico https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/toolbar-icon-manager-list-for-icewm-is-not-located-for-pt-br/. Com isso, os textos dos ícones de atalho que são inseridos na Barra de Ferramentas são exibidos em “pt” ou em “en”, portanto, não exibe os ícones de atalho com os textos em “pt-BR”.

    Menu Pessoal > Personal Menu Help Video:
    Exibe a mensagem:
    “Streamlight
    Livestreamer reported an error. See log for detais

    Eu nunca vi este menu “Personal Menu Help Video” funcionado, qual é o objetivo deste menu?

    Eu espero que todos consigam compreender corretamente o meu texto e a minha intenção é de ajudar que são traduzidas automaticamente pelo tradutor da internet.

    Muito obrigado.

    marcelocripe
    (Texto original em Português do Brasil)

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    This is just some data from how I use antiX – it compares antiX-19 (heavily modified) and antiX-21 (beta and also modified.
    I run herbstluftwm and aim to keep the footprint as low as possible by turing off/removing services I don’t need.

    Your pstree seems to show wpa-supplicant, dbus, and consolekit as running services (unless I am reading it wrong), but your ps_mem.py script printout shows no memory allocated to those services, while on antiX 19 you were showing memory allocation to them.

    Would you share how are you running those services without memory? Is that a feature of runit?

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    The ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” on a USB stick prepared with Ventoy booted with Rox-IceWM, connected to the internet via cable, RAM consumption:

    114 MB displayed in Conky
    103 MB displayed in Terminal with command free -m
    105 MB displayed in Task Manager
    146 MB displayed in Htop

    PPC, please check the folder /usr/share/locale/en_EN/LC_MESSAGES, I found only 5 translation files with the extension “.mo”, compared to the folder /usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES which has 166 translation files with the extension “.mo” and /usr/share/locale/en_BR/LC_MESSAGES which has 190 translation files with the extension “.mo”. I think that this difference of 19 translation files with the extension “.mo” must be missing a lot for antiX localized in en.

    I do not know how the “.mo” translation files are managed to be included in antiX ISOs and what we can do to help this important work as it reflects how antiX is perceived in other languages/countries.

    One remark about the “Time and Date” or “set_time-and_date”, the program is with all the texts I inserted in Transifex (antix-linux-community-contributions), however there is only one thing that makes me doubt, there is a dash and number “-03” right after the time, I believe it should not be there, or is that correct?
    It is another win that we have this program translated.

    https://ibb.co/wpHHFBh

    marcelocripe
    (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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    A ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy inicializado com Rox-IceWM, conectado na internet via cabo, o consumo de memória RAM:

    114 MB exibido no Conky
    103 MB exibido no Terminal com o comando free -m
    105 MB exibido no Gerenciador de Tarefas
    146 MB exibido no Htop

    PPC, por favor verifique a pasta /usr/share/locale/pt_PT/LC_MESSAGES, eu encontrei apenas 5 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo”, comparando com a pasta /usr/share/locale/pt/LC_MESSAGES que possui 166 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo” e /usr/share/locale/pt_BR/LC_MESSAGES que possui 190 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo”. Eu acho que esta diferença de 19 arquivos de tradução com a extensão “.mo” devem fazer muita falta para o antiX localizado em pt.

    Eu não sei como é feito o gerenciamento dos arquivos de tradução “.mo” para serem incluídos nas ISOs do antiX e o que podemos fazer para ajudar neste importante trabalho, pois isto reflete de como o antiX é visto em outros idiomas/países.

    Um observação sobre o “Data e Hora” ou “set_time-and_date”, o programam está com todos os textos que eu inseri no Transifex (antix-linux-community-contributions), contudo só tem uma coisa que me deixa com dúvida, tem um traço e número “-03” logo após o horário, eu acredito que não deveria estar lá, ou está correto?
    É outra vitória termos este programa traduzido.

    https://ibb.co/wpHHFBh

    marcelocripe
    (Texto original em Português do Brasil)

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    [Side note- I recently made my first convert to antiX- a friend had a crappy 32 bits netbook with Windows XP!!! On it- it did not work correctly any more so, antix 19.4, 32 bits to the rescue- it’s now a fully working netbook, although a bit slow doing some harder stuff like rendering very complex webpages, opening LibreOffice, etc- but nothing out of the ordinary- when I said I helped develop the script that I was using to set the time and date, he asked me: “This stuff is great! Why don’t you retire and live off this? With a sad smile I replied- because the folks that make this, like me, do it for free… He didn’t really get, it wasn’t some pirated software I was installing, that it really was completely free and legal)

    I hear the same from several people (laughs), they don’t believe that the antiX operating system is original and free, so it is not a piracy.

    Thank you very much for all your voluntary work in developing many great solutions, whether they made it onto the official ISO or not. I use several of your excellent programs.

    My sincere thanks.

    marcelocripe
    (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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    Eu ouço o mesmo de várias pessoas (risos), elas não acreditam que o sistema operacional antiX seja original e gratuito, portanto não é uma pirataria.

    Muito obrigado por todo o seu trabalho voluntário no desenvolvimento de várias soluções fantásticas, sejam as que entraram nas ISO oficial ou as que não entraram na ISO oficial. Eu utilizo vários dos seus excelentes programas.

    Meus sinceros agradecimentos.

    marcelocripe
    (Texto original em Português do Brasil)

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    This is just some data from how I use antiX – it compares antiX-19 (heavily modified) and antiX-21 (beta and also modified.
    I run herbstluftwm and aim to keep the footprint as low as possible by turing off/removing services I don’t need.

    Your pstree seems to show wpa-supplicant, dbus, and consolekit as running services (unless I am reading it wrong), but your ps_mem.py script printout shows no memory allocated to those services, while on antiX 19 you were showing memory allocation to them.

    Would you share how are you running those services without memory? Is that a feature of runit?

    The only folders I have in /etc/service are getty-tty1, slimski and udevd (it’s an experiment).
    I use ceni and removed connman (using ethernet only).
    No desktop startup file from desktop-session, so no conky etc and no wallpaper.
    Everything seems to be runnng ok. Internet works, I can browse using firefox-esr, use libreoffice.

    antiX-19 is still my daily driver and will continue to be so for a while though. I’m using consolekit rather than elogind on that.
    No real reason why, just to see if it worked (I know fungalnet dislikes elogind and even though it might be installed on antiX-21, you can disable it and dbus)

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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    @marcelocripe – thanks for the feedback.
    I’ll try to get all the latest translations on the final iso and update the packages before then.
    About the menus, please send me your corrected menu entries of the files in /usr/share/antiX/localisation/pt-br

    Thanks.

    @PPC – I chose not to include gdebi to see what the reaction would be. I’ll put it back in if people insist on it being on the iso.

    @everyone else – thanks for the feedback – keep it coming.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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    I’d like some feedback from users who have tried printing, scanning, bluetooth devices, exfat partitioned usb devices, phone connections, tethering etc.

    I installed 21runitb2 on Real hardware.
    Printing (over network): works out of the box (cups service running).
    Scanning (over network): works out of the box (saned service running).
    Bluetooth test 0 – Detection of Android 10 phone: works (bluetooth service and blueman-applet working).
    Bluetooth test 1 – Transfer file from computer to android phone: works (bluetooth service and blueman-applet working).
    Bluetooth test 2 – Transfer file from android phone to computer: works (bluetooth service and blueman-applet working).
    USB phone connection and file transfer: works (I need to use “Android Device USB connect” program to mount the folder).
    USB android phone tethering: works (as soon as I enabled it on the phone). Connection is stable. (tested only with connman and it works automatically).

    All this without playing with the services.

    I don’t know how to measure boot time.
    I don’t really pay too much attention to RAM use, and only enable or disable services when needed, but most are always running.

    -On zzz-icewm- the “root file manager” toolbar icon lunched “rox” not “zzzfm in root mode”

    I think it is better to remove this entry, so users don’t make mistakes. If they need root access, launch rox (root) from menus or launch zzzfm root window from zzzfm window menus.

    -in zzzmf disable showing hidden files/folders by default (it may be confusing for some users)

    On zzzfm hidden files, I will change the desktop-defaults-zzzfm-antix configuration to hide hidden files.

    antiX Live system enthusiast.
    General Live Boot Parameters for antiX.

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    To change run level eg run the desktop without Xorg,

    sudo runsvchdir solo

    Then login to your X-less environment. (You might need to press Enter/Return key first though).

    sudo ps_mem.py shows this

    `Private + Shared = RAM used Program

    88.0 KiB + 84.5 KiB = 172.5 KiB runit
    108.0 KiB + 105.5 KiB = 213.5 KiB runsvdir
    136.0 KiB + 254.0 KiB = 390.0 KiB runsv (2)
    176.0 KiB + 224.5 KiB = 400.5 KiB getty
    1.2 MiB + 954.5 KiB = 2.1 MiB login
    1.4 MiB + 1.1 MiB = 2.5 MiB sudo
    3.0 MiB + 418.5 KiB = 3.4 MiB bash
    3.9 MiB + 251.5 KiB = 4.2 MiB dhclient
    ———————————
    13.4 MiB
    =================================`

    To get back to X desktop

    sudo runsvchdir default

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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    Considering the question of boot time, I dual installed antiX21-b1-sysVinit and antiX21-b2-runit on the same computer, an old Toshiba Satelite C655D-S5135.

    The way that I tried to measure boot time was as follows: At the grub menu, I pressed enter on either antiX21-b1-sysVinit or antiX21-b2-runit right away at the first appearance of the grub menu and started the timer. I did not wait for the 5s or whatever time out period there is. I stopped the timer at the first appearance of the mouse cursor in the middle of the screen.

    These are my results:

    
    b2 runit:
    trial 1: 39.66 s
    trial 2: 39.84 s
    average: 39.75 s
    
    b1-sysVinit:
    trial 1: 40.18 s
    trial 2: 40.59 s
    average: 40.39 s
    
    Difference in "boot time": 0.64 s
    

    This result is consistent with my other tests on “boot time” on the antiX21-a2-sysVinit vs antiX21-a2-runit. The difference in those systems was 1 s.

    For all practical purposes, there is no difference in boot time. 1 s is not that big of a difference.

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    We have a script that measures boot time.
    Use pstree to find out the session (it’s after desktop-session), then type for example

    start-t icewm-session

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

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    start-t icewm-session

    Using the start-t icewm-session script, here are my numbers for the boot time comparison on the same computer Toshiba Satelite C655D-S5135:

    
    b2-runit: 34.77
    b1-sysVinit: 35.81
    
    difference in boot time: 1.04 s
    

    Result: only a 1 s difference in boot time between b2-runit and b1-sysVinit with respect to launching icewm.

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    I’ll try to get all the latest translations on the final iso and update the packages before then.

    A: Is there anything we can do to help you?

    About the menus, please send me your corrected menu entries of the files in /usr/share/antiX/localisation/en-br

    A: I can do this without difficulty and send you all the corrected menus that are in the fluxbox, icewm and jwm folders. But, when antiX gets the updates and $ sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global is applied, the menus will change and will get the texts in the line “Name[en_BR]=” from each “.desktop” file in the folders /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/applications/antix. Would the correct action be to correct all “.desktop” files that are created by the official team and the antiX community?
    Please guide me through the private message so that my actions can be as correct as possible so that they can be used in time in antiX 21.

    I chose not to include gdebi to see what the reaction would be. I’ll put it back in if people insist on it being on the iso.

    PPC had spoken out in another thread being totally against my suggestion to include Debinstaller as a replacement for Gdeb. Certainly PPC will not like my insistence, but if the program he created wasn’t really excellent for performing local package installation, I wouldn’t insist, and even worse, I run the risk of getting in trouble with this excellent person that is my friend PPC. Please be aware, PPC, that I have no intention of getting into trouble with you.
    The Debinstaller (white color) can install the dependencies that the local package needs if the computer is connected to the Internet. I have tested Gdeb many times, before Xecure created this my-offline-repo-0118.zip. Gdeb only has looks, fails to do what it sets out to do, and does not work like my-offline-repo-0118 or its Debinstaller gift (white in color). My-offline-repo-0118 and Debinstaller are the tools I use the most for installing local packages.

    Another test with the ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” on a USB stick prepared with Ventoy, booted with Modern Kernel (5.10.57) and the Rox-IceWM desktop, connected to the internet via cable, the RAM consumption:

    125 MB displayed in Conky
    106 MB displayed in Terminal with the command free -m
    108 MB displayed in Task Manager
    147 MB displayed in Htop

    When you have no internet connection, these values increase, due to the automatic startup of Connman.

    marcelocripe
    (Original text in Brazilian Portuguese)

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    I’ll try to get all the latest translations on the final iso and update the packages before then.

    R: Tem alguma coisa que podemos fazer para te ajudar?

    About the menus, please send me your corrected menu entries of the files in /usr/share/antiX/localisation/pt-br

    R: Eu consigo fazer isso sem dificuldades e te enviar os menus todos corrigidos que estão nas pastas fluxbox, icewm e jwm. Mas, quando o antiX receber as atualizações e o comando $ sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global for aplicado, os menus serão alterados e passarão a receber os textos contidos na linha “Name[pt_BR]=” de cada arquivo “.desktop” que estiverem nas pastas /usr/share/applications e /usr/share/applications/antix. A ação correta seria corrigir todos os arquivo “.desktop” que são criados pela equipe oficial e pela comunidade antiX?
    Por favor, oriente-me através da mensagem particular para que as minhas ações possam ser as mais corretas possíveis para poderem ser utilizadas a tempo no antiX 21.

    I chose not to include gdebi to see what the reaction would be. I’ll put it back in if people insist on it being on the iso.

    O PPC havia se manifestado em outro tópico sendo totalmente contra a minha sugestão de incluir o Debinstaller em substituição ao Gdeb. Certamente o PPC não irá gostar da minha insistência, mas se o programa que foi criado por ele não fosse realmente excelente para a execução da instalação de pacotes locais, eu não iria insistir, e pior, ainda corro o risco de me indispor com esta excelente pessoa que é o amigo PPC. Saiba PPC, que eu não tenho intenção alguma de me indispor com a sua pessoa.
    O Debinstaller (de cor branca) consegue instalar as dependências que o pacote local necessita caso o computador esteja conectado à internet. Eu testei muitas vezes o Gdeb, antes do Xecure criar o presente my-offline-repo-0118.zip. O Gdeb só possui aparência, não consegue fazer o que se propõe a fazer e não funciona como o my-offline-repo-0118 ou como o seu presente Debinstaller (de cor branca). O my-offline-repo-0118 e o Debinstaller são as ferramentas que mais utilizo para a instalação de pacotes locais.

    Outro teste com a ISO “antiX-21-b2-runit_x64-full.iso” em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy, inicializado com o Kernel Moderno (5.10.57) e a área de trabalho Rox-IceWM, conectado na internet via cabo, o consumo de memória RAM:

    125 MB exibido no Conky
    106 MB exibido no Terminal com o comando free -m
    108 MB exibido no Gerenciador de Tarefas
    147 MB exibido no Htop

    Quando não possui conexão com a internet, estes valores aumentam, devido a inicialização automática do Connman.

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    We have a script that measures boot time.
    Use pstree to find out the session (it’s after desktop-session), then type for example

    start-t icewm-session

    I cannot compare with antiX19 (heavily customized, with many schroot entries to build packages that sometimes are checked during boot, a service that autostarts to remote-access the PC, etc.). It would be unfair, so I only compare on my laptop with this a21-b2 runit installation with small changes.

    Normal boot: 8,5 seconds.
    Moving slimski to /etc/runit-core instead of runit service: 7,73 seconds (slimski starts before runit services)
    Changing /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf MODULES=dep: 7,46 seconds (reduces the amount of modules loaded when the temp filesystem is created).

    All this without changing the runit services (which don’t matter after moving slimski to start before runit services).

    $ env-info 
    
    OS: antiX-21-runit Grup Yorum
    Kernel: Linux 5.10.57-antix.1-amd64-smp x86_64
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
    Uptime: 0d 0h 8m
    Packages: 1573
    Shell: /bin/bash
    Terminal: xterm
    WM: zzz-icewm
    Init: runit
    GTK Theme: Arc-EvoPro2
    GTK Icons: papirus-antix
    Font: Ubuntu 10.5
    Disk: 4.4G / 20G
    Mem: 546Mi / 7.6Gi

    Anyone know how Void or artiX linux sets up services running once installed to hard disk?

    No experience here. But I was thinking of doing it the Debian way.

    I am thinking of taking advantage of the packages that come with sysvinit scripts, which use update-rc.d, service and invoke-rc.d, to enable and start runit services (if there is already a service folder in /etc/sv/) instead of enabling services in /etc/init.d/.
    This was an attempt to get it on main Debian by the Debian/Devuan runit maintainer (ignored). I just took their effort and added it to this repo. I need to test it still, and I want to add to it the ability to also enable/disable the services in /etc/runit-core.

    This would require us to have a large collection of services in /etc/sv/, even if not symlinked in /etc/service/, so that the package picks it up while installing/uninstalling, to enable/disable the runit service by symlinking it. When not present, it would default to the /etc/init.d script and enable it instead.

    This way, it could be easier to disable enable services from live-USB (instead of, for runit, creating a “down” file), to use the update-rc.d command to disable runit/sysvinit scripts (but that is above my pay grade).

    antiX Live system enthusiast.
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    A: I can do this without difficulty and send you all the corrected menus that are in the fluxbox, icewm and jwm folders. But, when antiX gets the updates and $ sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global is applied, the menus will change and will get the texts in the line “Name[en_BR]=” from each “.desktop” file in the folders /usr/share/applications and /usr/share/applications/antix

    As long as they are antiX packages, changes can be made. If they are Debian packages, contribute the changes to Debian (we can do nothing).

    antiX Live system enthusiast.
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