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[Member Peter Linu]

Hiyall,
I’m trying to install antiX 32bit-core on a 2011 Netbook.I have managed to get to the disk formatting window but don’t know how to move on.
Any help appreciated.

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While you are welcome to use any version of antiX that you wish to use, may I suggest as a beginner that you consider trying out antiX Full or possibly antiX Base?

The Net and Core versions are very cool because you can customize them to a very fine degree but it’s all on your own and that’s a great way to learn but only if you do a LOT of research on your own. There are too many details that are specific to individuals and their preferences to even attempt to describe them here so I recommend you start with antiX Full.

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Are you installing antiX all by itself and is it replacing something else?

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Just a quick suggestion first: Do you know that antiX core has no graphical user interface by default. You would have to add one yourself. Pretty easy to do, BUT…

I’m thinking you just want a low-resource “ready-made” OS, right? If my assumption is right, then use antiX “full” ISO. It has a GUI, and is easy to install & use — even for an “absolute beginner.” It does not take much resources. It’s the normal one that people review, so if someone recommended antiX to you, that’s probably the one they mean.

So give that one a try.

https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix-linux/files/Final/antiX-21/antiX-21_386-full.iso/download

Or set me straight, and we’ll help you with core. 😉

Edit: Brian beat me to the punch…

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My ‘punches’ are more like soft taps, especially if a woman is involved!

In any case I am not a fighter, I am merely an gracefully aging geek! 😄

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Hi Brian,
Thank you for getting back.
My situation: I have been with Linux Mint for about 3 years and can get around pretty well. I have made a few knowledgeable friends so as they say, that’s Mint sorted.
I also have an Asus Netbook 2011 which is 32 bit and has a SSD drive and 2Gb RAM (it says 64 bit inside however runs deathly-slow with 64 bit software.) It runs most 32 bit software very well – even Windoze7 starter pack. I only use it for playing music so I need only an audio player, perhaps video player, pdf reader and a small text writer. THAT’S IT!
I have been looking for a tiny OS to fit the bill. antiX-386-core seems to be it.

I’m very good at following orders. While I don’t know code, I certainly know how to copy/paste. If you would be so kind as to give me a sheet with 1…do this, 2. do that, etc, I’m sure I could make it work.
Cheers,
Peter Linu

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[Member Peter Linu]

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and YES, I want a gui!

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I suggest the base version then. It has a GUI, and yet is very light on disk space & RAM use.
Since you have experience with Mint, I’m sure the GUI installer will be no problem for you. And, as Brian mentioned, core can be fun, but for more advanced users, I think.

Edit:. If you’re sure you want core, see this thread:
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-core-plus-just-enough-x-a-recipe/

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Hello Peter Linu.

Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.

I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original Brazilian Portuguese text directly into your language with the help of internet translators.

Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.

When I first started using antiX, I read the tutorials that PPC created, these readings saved me a lot of time and I think it saves time for any new antiX user. Your time will not be wasted with these readings, everything will seem to be much easier than you could imagine. You won’t waste your time searching the internet or even creating new topics, on the contrary, you will gain a lot of time with these readings.

I recommend you try out desktops that have “zzz” in their name. I usually use zzz-IceWM or zzz-JWM or zzz-Fluxbox (each of these desktops has its own characteristics and consumes more or less resources), zzz-FM will be the default file manager for your desktop, it it is very similar to the other file managers of other GNU/Linux distributions and Windows XP. To access other antiX workspaces, click on Menu, Workspace, Other Workspaces and click on the workspace name, instantly the workspace will be loaded.

Whenever you need to ask for help or technical support, post the output of the terminal command $ inxi -Fxz, copy and paste it in the message of the topic you are going to create in this forum.

When you start a topic or participate with a post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option, you will receive a message in your email box whenever there are replies from topic in question.

After this “small” introduction which is dedicated to all newcomers here on the antiX forum, let’s get to your case:

You wrote “Absolute Beginner”, so it makes no sense to start with antiX’s Core or Net ISO. For all antiX beginners the most correct is to use the full ISO.

I’m very good at following orders. While I don’t know code, I certainly know how to copy/paste. If you would be so kind as to give me a sheet with 1…do this, 2. do that, etc, I’m sure I could make it work.

I also consider myself an excellent command copyer and would love to learn how to do this one day. But I think it’s unfair to ask someone to teach you how to build an operating system from a forum thread, since there are already two ready-to-use ISOs, the full ISO and the base ISO. Can you imagine how difficult it will be for people to help you without being able to see everything you’ve done on your computer?
The other day an antiX beginner was complaining that he couldn’t use Wi-Fi with the antiX base ISO, however, the full ISO has all the solutions to his problems, but he still insists with the base ISO. Installed ISO antiX 21 full consumes about 3.7 GB hard disk space, Windows 7 consumes about 19 GB hard disk space, how much hard disk space does Linux Mint consume after installation?
AntiX 21 of ISO full installed consumes about 90 MB to 157 MB of RAM, it has 4 window managers that you can choose from by going to Menu, Desktop, Others Desktop, click on the window manager name.

marcelocripe
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Olá Peter Linu.

Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.

Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.

Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:

What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.
Quando eu comecei a utilizar o antiX, eu li os tutoriais que o PPC criou, estas leituras me pouparam muito do meu tempo e acho que poupa o tempo de qualquer novo usuário do antiX. O seu tempo não será perdido com estas leituras, tudo parecerá ser muito mais fácil do que você poderia imaginar. Você não perderá o seu tempo com pesquisas na internet ou até mesmo em criar novos tópicos, ao contrário, você ganhará muito tempo com estas leituras.

Eu recomendo você experimentar as áreas de trabalho que possuem “zzz” em seu nome. Eu costumo utilizar o zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (cada uma destas áreas de trabalho possuem características próprias e consomem mais ou menos recursos), o zzz-FM será o gerenciador de arquivos padrão da sua área de trabalho, ele é muito semelhante aos outros gerenciadores de arquivos das outras distribuições GNU/Linux e do Windows XP. Para acessar as outras áreas de trabalho do antiX, clique no Menu, Área de Trabalho, Alternar Entre as Áreas de Trabalho e clique sobre o nome da área de trabalho, instantaneamente a área de trabalho será carregada.

Sempre que você precisar solicitar ajuda ou suporte técnico, poste o resultado do comando do terminal $ inxi -Fxz, copie e cole aqui na mensagem do tópico que você for criar neste fórum.

Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.

Após esta “pequena” introdução que é dedicada a todos os recém chegados aqui no fórum do antiX, vamos ao seu caso:

Você escreveu “Absolute Beginner”, então não faz sentido algum você iniciar com a ISO Core ou Net do antiX. Para todos os iniciantes no antiX o mais correto é utilizar a ISO full.

I’m very good at following orders. While I don’t know code, I certainly know how to copy/paste. If you would be so kind as to give me a sheet with 1…do this, 2. do that, etc, I’m sure I could make it work.

Eu também me considero um excelente copiador de comandos e gostaria muito de aprender a fazer isso um dia. Mas eu acho injusto pedir para alguém ensinar a construir um sistema operacional a partir de um tópico no fórum, uma vez que já existem duas ISOs prontas para uso, a ISO full e a base. Você consegue imaginar como será difícil para as pessoas te ajudarem sem poder ver tudo que você fez no seu computador?
Outro dia um iniciante no antiX estava reclamando que não conseguia utilizar o Wi-Fi com a ISO base do antiX, contudo, a ISO full possui todas as soluções dos problemas dele, mas mesmo assim ele insiste com a ISO base.
O antiX 21 da ISO full instalado consome cerca de 3,7 GB de espaço no disco rígido, o Windows 7 consome cerca de 19 GB de espaço no disco rígido, quanto espaço em disco rígido o Linux Mint consome após a instalação? O antiX 21 da ISO full instalado consome cerca de 90 MB a 157MB de memória RAM, possui 4 gerenciadores de janelas que você pode escolher acessando o Menu, Desktop, Others Desktop, clique no nome do gerenciador de janelas.

marcelocripe
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[Member Peter Linu]

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Hi Christophe,
Can I use wifi with ‘base’?

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Yes. Base just has fewer added programs than full has, like libre office, and some others, but has the normal antiX setup.

It is what I always use, myself for a “normal” system. And even then, you can always add or remove software.

For example, base comes with SeaMonkey browser, but I normally remove it & install firefox-esr or palemoon. It’s a matter of personal taste, and you can subtract/add as you like.

Edit: I’m not sure why someone had problems with WIFI on antiX base, as Marcelocripe points out. I never do. In any event, full is not “bloated” by any means, as his stats above show. So maybe go with that to just test out from a live usb. If you like it, then install. Or try base. One or the other.
Note: full has synaptic package manager already installed. So if you want that graphical package manager, perhaps use full. (Or install it to base from the command line, if you want to add it to base.)

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I think Christophe made an excellent suggestion; I rarely use Core anymore, though it’s actually pretty easy to get going. You do have to install several things but if you start with a few crucial meta packages you’d be surprised how quickly you can build it, IF you have a fast broadband network from which to download the packages.

I took a look at the link mentioned earlier and that’s a good way to do it; you can naturally choose your own favorite packages too.

I did write a blog post a very long time ago about antiX Core; I’m not sure how much of it is still relevant; it was 10-15 years ago, so I think the suggestion by Christophe is more relevant and recent.

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[Member Peter Linu]

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Thank you all. Marcelo Cripe’s suggestion of using ‘base’ was the answer. I now am on a pretty sparse desktop which is what I want and have wifi configured. I am no longer an Absolute Beginner. My next job of course is to find the apps I want.

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[Member marcelocripe]

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I’m not sure why someone had problems with WIFI on antiX base, as Marcelocripe points out. I never do.

If my memory serves me correctly, it would be something related to using Ceni instead of the ConnMan CMST. I’m not sure if the antiX base ISO has the “antiX WiFi Switch” to do the Wi-Fi manager program switch. And on the topic in question, the beginner wanted almost everything that exists in the ISO ful, but he didn’t know the names of programs to install in the base version. In the past, when there was only the “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso” ISO with Kernel 4.4.240 built by Xecure, I “suffered” a lot to make the base version as close as possible to the official full version.

My next job of course is to find the apps I want.

Now, read the tutorials, you will learn to operate antiX much faster than any other distribution.

Here is an opinion from those who have read the PPC tutorials:

@T620user wrote:

Thanks for the great intro – it really reflects the spirit of this community, Today I am setting up the T620 again (properly) now that I have read the links you sent me. The advice about using a zzz-desktop was very useful, and it has solved my problems here now.

Good luck!

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I’m not sure why someone had problems with WIFI on antiX base, as Marcelocripe points out. I never do.

Se não me falha a memória, seria algo relacionado a fazer o uso do Ceni no lugar no CMST ConnMan. Eu não tenho certeza se a ISO base do antiX possui o “antiX WiFi Switch” para fazer a troca do programa gerenciador de Wi-Fi. E no tópico em questão, o iniciante queria quase tudo que existe na ISO ful, mas ele não sabia os nomes dos programas para instalar na versão base. No passado, quando existia apenas a ISO “antiX-19-legacy-bet2_386-base.iso” com Kernel 4.4.240 construída pelo Xecure, eu “sofria” muito para tornar a versão base o máximo possível parecida com a versão full oficial.

My next job of course is to find the apps I want.

Agora, leia os tutoriais, você aprenderá muito mais rápido a operar antiX do que qualquer outra distribuição.

Aqui está uma opnião de quem leu os tutoriais do PPC:

@T620user wrote:

Thanks for the great intro – it really reflects the spirit of this community, Today I am setting up the T620 again (properly) now that I have read the links you sent me. The advice about using a zzz-desktop was very useful, and it has solved my problems here now.

Boa sorte!

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As pointed out, the Base version does not have some of the more helpful gui’s installed by default. Synaptic is a very useful GUI for managing the packages and repositories but it is missing in Base. You can install it using the Package Installer off the Control Centre or menu.

When you use the term “Beginner” we make some assumptions about your ability. Usually we assume you are not going to be comfortable at the “command line”, or “Console”. You will have to inform us as to what your actual comfort level is. antiX does tend to tilt more toward the “console” way of configuring your Linux system than Mint. There are not as many gui tools as is available in Mint or MX, for instance.

The Full version has more of the traditional “desktop” environment flavor many users are accustomed to. Yet, antiX does not use a full Desktop Environment at all, like Mint uses Cinnamon, or MX uses XFCE. antiX uses a different approach, using Window Managers and File Managers instead. Many other Linux communities will not quite understand why this is and will not appreciate the power available in antiX even though it does not use a full DE (Desktop Envoronment). But don’t worry. We can help you translate the different advice you might get as a beginner on other sites.

Welcome to antiX.

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