Adding AnyDesk to antiX

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      For many years i used TeamViewer for remote access and support. A couple of years ago, it stopped working. When I contacted support, they claimed that I had used it for commercial purposes (which was very stranged, since I hadn’t used it at all for an extended period) and that I needed to purchase a license. A few Google searches revealed that I was far from the only one who encountered this problem. This new policy of trying to “bully/blackmail” people into buying a license led me and many others to find alternatives to TeamViewer.

      It appears that AnyDesk has become the new goto application for remote access and support. I downloaded a .deb file from anydesk.com and tried installing it using Gdebi, but there was an error message saying something about dependencies. Eventually I managed to install it from the anydesk repositories using terminal commands that I found on anydesk.com. Once installed, it ran without problems.

      This raises two questions.

      1. Why wouldn’t Gdebi install the .deb file?
      2. Would it be possible to add AnyDesk to the Package Installer in future releases? If space/size is an issue, might I suggest that it can replace TeamViewer. After all, Linux is very much about free software, and in reality, TeamViwer is no longer free, even for private use.

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        3.3 The customer is obliged to register the licence key in the portal https://my.anydesk.com or in the application within 14 days of receipt. ANYDESK reserves the right to restrict or block access to the services if the Customer fails to comply with the aforementioned.

        It says it’s $9.90 per month

        What other options are available?

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          3.3 The customer is obliged to register the licence key in the portal https://my.anydesk.com or in the application within 14 days of receipt. ANYDESK reserves the right to restrict or block access to the services if the Customer fails to comply with the aforementioned.

          It says it’s $9.90 per month

          What other options are available?

          @BobC

          Free Remote Desktop Software for Personal Users

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            I’m not sure that is very different from what Team View offered originally.

            Why not just use something that doesn’t have license issues instead?

            PS: the quote I pasted in above was from the licensing fine print on the download link you gave, and when you go to download the “free version” it says you are agreeing to that whole thing. I’m not saying there is anything bad about them, or that they will do anything bad, just that you are agreeing to lots of stuff that is similar to what Teamviewer did to you.

            I’m actually looking for some remote support software to help family and friends with different systems from afar myself, so I’m interested in the subject, but for Free, not $9.90 a month. No offense to anyone, but I don’t want to invest the time setting it up and learning to configure and work it, if that will be the end result a few months from now.

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              I downloaded the .deb file from their site and had no problem installing it to a live USB booted system with the following command from a terminal in the same folder it was downloaded to. Gdebi is not the way I install things as it doesn’t handle things like dependencies or updating menus, etc.

              sudo apt update && sudo apt install ./anydesk_6.1.1-1_amd64.deb

              The program automatically was added to the internet menu and appears to work, but I don’t know enough about it to connect to anything at this point.

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                I installed it on a 2nd laptop booted with antiX 19.4 runit, and remoted into the first antiX 21 laptop, and am typing on the one into the other.

                Both machines are on the same LAN, so its not a good test from a security standpoint, but it does definitely work, both via keyboard and mouse.

                Now what we need is a security guru to come along and tell us how to secure it…

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                  @BobC

                  I’m not sure that is very different from what Team View offered originally.

                  Any Desk and TeamViewer are quite similar. The main difference today being that AnyDesk still works in reality without a license, as I described above.

                  Why not just use something that doesn’t have license issues instead?

                  Ease of use. AnyDesk as well as TeamViewer only require an identity number to connect. Invaluable when trying to support less computer knowledgable people.

                  I’m actually looking for some remote support software to help family and friends with different systems from afar myself, so I’m interested in the subject, but for Free, not $9.90 a month. No offense to anyone, but I don’t want to invest the time setting it up and learning to configure and work it, if that will be the end result a few months from now.

                  While testing Puppy Linux, I was suggested to have a look at Remmina and DWS Remote Control. Not quite as simple as AnyDesk and TeamViewer, but still very useful.

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                    Both machines are on the same LAN, so its not a good test from a security standpoint, but it does definitely work, both via keyboard and mouse.

                    Now what we need is a security guru to come along and tell us how to secure it…

                    I have used it numerous times to support friends outside my LAN and never had any problems. Im definitely not claiming to be a security guru though…

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                      Have you looked at their Reddit? 6 days ago someone posted that AnyDesk is doing the same thing TeamViewer was doing with the licensing games…

                      https://www.reddit.com/r/AnyDesk/comments/p6yvy2/was_anydesk_purchased_by_teamviewer/

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                        @BobC

                        Have you looked at their Reddit? 6 days ago someone posted that AnyDesk is doing the same thing TeamViewer was doing with the licensing games…

                        I had not seen this before, and I have not had any problems like that myself. The answer from AnyDesk support suggests we might continue to use it for free, at least for the time beeing.

                        “AnyDeskSupport
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                        AnyDesk is still free for personal use”

                        Personally I use it within my LAN most of the time, to run laptops from the desktop, since the desktop has a better keyboard and a much larger screen. On occasions I help friends in remote sites. I guess I just haven’t triggered their “commercial use detection”.

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                          Ease of use. AnyDesk as well as TeamViewer only require an identity number to connect. Invaluable when trying to support less computer knowledgable people.

                          Yes, and this is exactly why many people use Anydesk.

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                            We have in-house apps that you may want to try. 1-1 Assistant, 1-1 Voice and ssh-conduit. See the antiX FAQ for more details.

                            Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                            antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

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                              @aticapitalista

                              We have in-house apps that you may want to try. 1-1 Assistant, 1-1 Voice and ssh-conduit. See the antiX FAQ for more details.

                              Can 1-1 Assistant be used cross platform?

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                                @aticapitalista

                                We have in-house apps that you may want to try. 1-1 Assistant, 1-1 Voice and ssh-conduit. See the antiX FAQ for more details.

                                Can 1-1 Assistant be used cross platform?

                                A few reasons for the in-house antiX apps:
                                • They are extremely lightweight in the demands placed on the system CPU and RAM. This minimalist approach means they are able to run on a very wide range of of old and new kit

                                • They work within a local network and/or across the internet

                                • Except for an ISP, connections across the internet do not depend upon the availability of third party services. Registration with an external provider is not required. This approach means they avoid the whims and changing attitudes of third party providers

                                • The connection between systems is automatically secured.

                                The apps in the antiX repos are primarily aimed at use between antiX boxes and are configured for simplicity and security of use. After installing the in-house app, the underlying apps can still be used with other similar apps. In such cases you have to take care of configuration yourself.

                                Outline
                                You seem to be interested in VNC connections. For this antiX uses x11vnc to serve a remote desktop and SSVNC to view the remote desktop. They are two independent apps that work together very well but do not depend on each other. It is possible to run x11vnc server on an antiX box and view it using a VNC viewer of your choice running on a box from an entirely different distro or even on a Windows system. The opposite is also possible i.e. the Windows system runs a VNC server of your choice and an antiX box runs an SSVNC viewer.

                                The original author of x11vnc/SSVNC made binaries available for installation on Windows systems. Of course these were never included in any antiX repo. I don’t know if they are still available, you will have to search for them.

                                Useful links
                                https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/1-to-1-suite-of-apps-2
                                https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/ssh-conduit-suite
                                http://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-19/FAQ/index.html
                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEmtZTpKR0A

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                                  We have in-house apps that you may want to try. 1-1 Assistant, 1-1 Voice and ssh-conduit. See the antiX FAQ for more details.

                                  Right, these antiX tools seem very interesting, but need to change some practices.

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