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January 22, 2023 at 7:05 pm #98010Member
seaken64
Hello all,
I have recently been playing with a new “old computer” I was given (as is my hobby, after all) and I have been wanting to experiment with a desktop environment that is friendly with a touch screen. I had some experience with Gnome after using it on Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian and I figured it would be a good environment for a touch screen (which I usually avoid in my distros since I have never used a touch screen desktop before and I usually want to use the keyboard and mouse only – but this machine has a touch screen).
This machine is a dual-core at 1.6Ghz and with 2Gb RAM. I installed MX KDE on it and it runs fine but is a little sluggish. I installed antiX-22 and it is better, as to be expected. So, I didn’t want to try a full distro with Gnome like Ubuntu since I figured it would run like a dog in 2Gb of RAM. Instead, I thought I would try installing the Gnome desktop in antiX-22.
But I ran into an issue in the Package Installer and could use some help sorting it out. This is the first time I have attempted to install an actual DE in antiX – I usually use the standard IceWM or Fluxbox window manager “desktops”. So, I am not too familiar with DE’s in antiX.
Here’s the issue:
I opened the “Package Installer” and on the “Manage popular packages” screen there is a section called “Desktop Environment”. On that list are two entries for Gnome. One says “Gnome – Minimal install of gnome shell”. The other says “Gnome-core – Very minimal install of Gnome”.
My first try was the first entry “Gnome”. The package installer ran the update and then started to launch a terminal screen, but the terminal screen disappeared quickly. I was then asked if I wanted to exit the Package Installer. It acted as though it completed the operation but it did not work. I logged out and logged in. There was no sign of Gnome at all.
So, I thought maybe I need to run the “Gnome-core” package first. I went ahead and launched that and this time the terminal stayed open and I was able to complete the install routine. I again logged out and logged in. It tried to start but I got an error box saying the desktop was not part of the Other Desktop and it crashed.
I used Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to the console and rebooted. This time I got to the gdm3 desktop manager and I was able to log in. The wallpaper says Debian and the typical “Activities” menu was in the upper left. I clicked on that and I could then see the Gnome desktop. All the antiX programs are on the Gnome menu and I can use the touch screen or the keyboard and mouse.
So, the “Gnome-core” seems to have worked. I went back to try the “Gnome – Minimal install of gnome shell”. It did the same thing. The terminal came up and then quickly closed. This selection was not installed. However, the “Gnome-core” entry was now greyed out, indicating it was installed.
What am I missing by not being able to install the first entry “Gnome”? Do I have enough of Gnome with the second entry “Gnome-core”?
Thanks for any tips you share with me.
Seaken64
- This topic was modified 3 months, 2 weeks ago by Brian Masinick.
January 22, 2023 at 7:07 pm #98011Memberseaken64
::Here’s the inxi for this computer:
$ inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: GNOME v: 3.38.6 Distro: antiX-22_x64-full Grup Yorum 18 October 2022 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: N/A System: MICRO-STAR product: MS-AA53 v: 0A serial: <superuser required> Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: MS-AA53 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: MS-AA53 V3.10 date: 10/15/2012 CPU: Info: dual core model: AMD E-450 APU with Radeon HD Graphics bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Bobcat rev: 0 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 1024 KiB Speed (MHz): avg: 867 high: 900 min/max: 825/1650 boost: disabled cores: 1: 900 2: 835 bogomips: 6599 Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4a ssse3 svm Graphics: Device-1: AMD Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: radeon v: kernel arch: TeraScale 2 bus-ID: 00:01.0 Device-2: Acer BisonCam NB Pro type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-5:5 Display: wayland server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 with: Xwayland compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa gpu: radeon resolution: 1600x900~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: AMD PALM (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp LLVM 11.0.1) v: 3.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: AMD Wrestler HDMI Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:01.1 Device-2: AMD SBx00 Azalia vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:14.2 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.19 running: no Network: Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: e000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Realtek RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter vendor: AzureWave AW-NE139H Half-size Mini PCIe Card driver: rtl8192ce v: kernel port: d000 bus-ID: 07:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Drives: Local Storage: total: 473.22 GiB used: 7.21 GiB (1.5%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD5000AAKX-221CA1 size: 465.76 GiB ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Lexar model: USB Flash Drive size: 7.46 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 38.15 GiB used: 5.8 GiB (15.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda6 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 1.91 GiB used: 9.3 MiB (0.5%) dev: /dev/sda3 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 54.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 56.0 C Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A Info: Processes: 191 Uptime: 47m Memory: 1.55 GiB used: 1.06 GiB (68.6%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 1918 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.19January 22, 2023 at 8:25 pm #98018Moderator
caprea
::When such problems occur, it sometimes helps if the terminal is also readable and does not disappear immediately as with the package installer.
With -s at the end of command it’s only simulated.Here in terminal it says there is a problem with the installed libreoffice version.Probably because gnome has it’s own version libreoffice-gnome.$ LANG=C sudo apt install gnome -s Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree... Done Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libreoffice-core : Breaks: libreoffice-gnome (< 1:7.4.4~rc2-2~bpo11+3) but 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4 is to be installed libreoffice-gnome : Depends: libreoffice-core (= 1:7.0.4-4+deb11u4) but 1:7.4.4~rc2-2~bpo11+3 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.January 22, 2023 at 8:31 pm #98019Forum Admin
rokytnji
::I not on Dell Xt2 Touchscreen with wacom pen with MX Fluxbox edition Linux installed.
Pen and Touch screen work OK for my limited skill set in MX Fluxbox edition. I’ll try and supply some info later on request if needed later on.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsJanuary 22, 2023 at 8:41 pm #98020Memberseaken64
::Thanks caprea, I thought about trying it at the terminal but I was not sure how. Are these two entries in PI called “gnome” and “gnome-core” at the terminal? I will try that with the -s switch so as to only simulate so there is no harm done.
Thanks for the tip.
I also thought of using Synaptic. I was just wondering what was going on with the entries on the PI. I guess maybe the PI does not display error messages like the terminal or Synaptic?
Since I don’t need LibreOffice or any other applications installed is the “gnome-core” the right choice anyway? Maybe I don’t need the “gnome” choice at all?
Seaken64
January 22, 2023 at 8:48 pm #98021Memberseaken64
::Hi roky,
I can use the touch screen with regular antiX and IceWM or Fluxbox. But I wanted to use something with big on-screen buttons, like the typical Android desktop. You know, the interface that everyone hates from Ubuntu Unity and Windows 8. I also hate those interfaces when I DON’T have a touch screen, or using a phone or tablet. But now that I have a desktop machine with a touch screen I wanted to try it out on one of those interfaces.
Seaken64
January 22, 2023 at 9:04 pm #98022Forum Admin
rokytnji
::Ok. Understandable. Here. I broke it out anyways
$ inxi -Fxz System: Kernel: 5.10.0-20-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1 Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.7 Distro: MX-21.3_x64 Wildflower October 20 2021 base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye) Machine: Type: Portable System: Dell product: Latitude XT2 v: N/A serial: <filter> Mobo: Dell model: 0HJ48R serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A01 date: 05/07/2009 Battery: ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.3 Wh (100.0%) condition: 37.3/42.2 Wh (88.5%) volts: 12.3 min: 11.1 model: Sanyo DELL H986H98 status: Full CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo U9600 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn rev: A cache: L2: 3 MiB flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 bogomips: 6379 Speed: 797 MHz min/max: 800/1601 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 1: 797 2: 797 Graphics: Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel bus-ID: 00:02.0 Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel resolution: 1280x800~60Hz OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG) v: 2.1 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes Audio: Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-20-amd64 running: yes Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes Network: Device-1: Intel 82567LM Gigabit Network vendor: Dell driver: e1000e v: kernel port: efe0 bus-ID: 00:19.0 IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter> Device-2: Intel WiFi Link 5100 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: 1100 bus-ID: 0c:00.0 IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter> Bluetooth: Device-1: Cambridge Silicon Radio Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8 bus-ID: 4-1:3 Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 1.2 lmp-v: 2.0 RAID: Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci v: 3.0 bus-ID: 00:1f.2 Drives: Local Storage: total: 167.68 GiB used: 62.17 GiB (37.1%) ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: OCZ model: D2CSTK181M11-0180 size: 167.68 GiB Partition: ID-1: / size: 156.85 GiB used: 62.17 GiB (39.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 Swap: ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 7.25 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/sda2 ID-2: swap-2 type: zram size: 610.7 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/zram0 ID-3: swap-3 type: zram size: 610.7 MiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/zram1 Sensors: System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: SODIMM C Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 Info: Processes: 188 Uptime: 4m Memory: 4.77 GiB used: 673.4 MiB (13.8%) Init: SysVinit runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 2106 Shell: Bash v: 5.1.4 inxi: 3.3.06Used to carry this on the motorcycle. My new antiX chromebook does that duty now.
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Foundation idProduct 0x0001 1.1 root hub bcdDevice 5.10 iManufacturer 3 Linux 5.10.0-20-amd64 uhci_hcd iProduct 2 UHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:1d.0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0019 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0002 1x 2 bytes bInterval 255 Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 2.00 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0002 2.0 root hub bcdDevice 5.10 iManufacturer 3 Linux 5.10.0-20-amd64 ehci_hcd iProduct 2 EHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:1a.7 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0019 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0004 1x 4 bytes bInterval 12 Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0a5c:5801 Broadcom Corp. BCM5880 Secure Applications Processor with fingerprint swipe sensor Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 0 bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x0a5c Broadcom Corp. idProduct 0x5801 BCM5880 Secure Applications Processor with fingerprint swipe sensor bcdDevice 1.02 iManufacturer 1 Broadcom Corp iProduct 2 5880 iSerial 3 0123456789ABCD bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0037 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 0 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xc0 Self Powered MaxPower 100mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 3 bInterfaceClass 254 Application Specific Interface bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 iInterface 4 ** UNRECOGNIZED: 10 25 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x01 EP 1 OUT bmAttributes 2 Transfer Type Bulk Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0040 1x 64 bytes bInterval 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x85 EP 5 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0010 1x 16 bytes bInterval 1 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0001 1.1 root hub bcdDevice 5.10 iManufacturer 3 Linux 5.10.0-20-amd64 uhci_hcd iProduct 2 UHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:1a.2 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0019 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0002 1x 2 bytes bInterval 255 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0001 1.1 root hub bcdDevice 5.10 iManufacturer 3 Linux 5.10.0-20-amd64 uhci_hcd iProduct 2 UHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:1a.1 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0019 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0002 1x 2 bytes bInterval 255 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Couldn't open device, some information will be missing Device Descriptor: bLength 18 bDescriptorType 1 bcdUSB 1.10 bDeviceClass 9 Hub bDeviceSubClass 0 bDeviceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub bMaxPacketSize0 64 idVendor 0x1d6b Linux Foundation idProduct 0x0001 1.1 root hub bcdDevice 5.10 iManufacturer 3 Linux 5.10.0-20-amd64 uhci_hcd iProduct 2 UHCI Host Controller iSerial 1 0000:00:1a.0 bNumConfigurations 1 Configuration Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 2 wTotalLength 0x0019 bNumInterfaces 1 bConfigurationValue 1 iConfiguration 0 bmAttributes 0xe0 Self Powered Remote Wakeup MaxPower 0mA Interface Descriptor: bLength 9 bDescriptorType 4 bInterfaceNumber 0 bAlternateSetting 0 bNumEndpoints 1 bInterfaceClass 9 Hub bInterfaceSubClass 0 bInterfaceProtocol 0 Full speed (or root) hub iInterface 0 Endpoint Descriptor: bLength 7 bDescriptorType 5 bEndpointAddress 0x81 EP 1 IN bmAttributes 3 Transfer Type Interrupt Synch Type None Usage Type Data wMaxPacketSize 0x0002 1x 2 bytes bInterval 255Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
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How to Search for AntiX solutions to your problemsJanuary 22, 2023 at 9:06 pm #98023Memberseaken64
::Hmmm, I went back to the touch screen machine to try the terminal. But now I can’t log in. I’ve checked and double-checked my password. I know it is correct but it won’t let me in. I held the power button and restarted. I can get to the gdm and when I enter my name I can then go the the session chooser. But no matter what I can’t get in.
I will have to re-install and start over. I’ll be back after I re-install.
Seaken64
January 22, 2023 at 9:20 pm #98025Memberseaken64
::I’m not sure, but I wonder if Gnome requires systemD. Maybe that is causing problems with antiX. I don’t know much about the subject. I figure it wouldn’t be on the list of DE’s in PI if it didn’t work. I’ll try Gnome again from the command line after I finish the re-install of antiX, which is running now.
Seaken64
January 22, 2023 at 9:49 pm #98029Moderator
Brian Masinick
::I’m not sure, but I wonder if Gnome requires systemD. Maybe that is causing problems with antiX. I don’t know much about the subject. I figure it wouldn’t be on the list of DE’s in PI if it didn’t work. I’ll try Gnome again from the command line after I finish the re-install of antiX, which is running now.
Seaken64
From the very beginning of the project, I’ve never been a fan of the GNOME desktop environment, but I do enjoy many of the Gtk+ applications, mostly those used in Xfce or available also as standalone applications. My reasons for never developing a fondness for GNOME are that:
1) compared to two of the other DEs, KDE and Xfce in particular, KDE always offered more flexibility and configurability, and Xfce, in both it’s initial form from the nineties and in its rework (quite a long time ago), which adopted many libraries that are common with GNOME, also offers more flexibility in a leaner footprint.
2) with regard to leaner footprint, you have to fully configure practically everything in the current KDE Plasma to approach the size and bloat of GNOME, yet it’s still useful and responsive, though I don’t need the features it offers.
To be honest, I don’t really need Xfce either; at least the overhead incurred in using it isn’t extreme and it’s responsive. A simple window manager like IceWM is all I need, and often, even in systems that default to either KDE or Xfce, I’ll add IceWM and sometimes login that way. I rarely install a distribution with GNOME; perhaps it has improved; I have my doubts, and since I don’t need it, I haven’t re-examined it in years.
Perhaps if someone sings the praises of GNOME I’ll take a short peek, maybe downloading an image to try out live, but other than a mild curiosity to find out if it’s ever become more efficient and flexible, that’d be the only reason I’d check it out because my typical computer use and preferences don’t require a desktop environment, just the copy, cut, and paste conveniences of a GUI and Web browser access.
After that “windbag” response, I did look around, and YES, it IS possible to obtain GNOME without bringing in systemD. I’m not entirely certain of whether our implementation has been carefully crafted to stay systemD or not; I know our core window managers all use NO-systemD components.
The following search brings up a bunch of articles that you may consider if you choose to dig into this further.
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Brian MasinickJanuary 22, 2023 at 10:32 pm #98035Memberseaken64
::Thanks Brian,
my guess is that the antiX developers figured out how to run Gnome without systemd. Nevertheless, I have been rethinking this Gnome on antiX idea and I think I will abandon it in favor of using Debian. In the meantime I am going to further explore setting up KDE for use with touch and maybe I will put KDE on top of antiX. First, I am going to try MX and MX Fluxbox.
The issue with this particular machine is that it only has 2Gb of RAM, and antiX reports it as only 1.5Gb. It is likely that some of the RAM is being used for the video or some other sub-systems and it is not all available. I don’t think Gnome will work with this machine unless I can increase the RAM.
I also am not a fan of Gnome. The only reason I was trying it out was because it is supposed to support touch screens better than other DE’s. But the modern versions are getting too much for an old machine. I will explore KDE and XFCE more.
I did get IceWM setup with larger icons and it is easier to touch to launch. But I haven’t found any way to use the touch in the terminal and I can’t respond without using the keyboard. I need to find an onscreen keyboard for antiX and IceWM.
I am downloading Debian w/ Gnome now and will install it in another partition just to see if it usable at all. That seems a better path than trying to shoehorn it into antiX.
This thread is closed, for now. Unless I decide to continue this futile exercise of Gnome on antiX.
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