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May 12, 2023 at 3:18 pm #106605Member
Robin
::Dear Wallon,
There are no international keyboard shortcuts.
There are. All ctrl + whatever (including ctrl + alt + whatever) are control sequences, and do work on all other keyboard layouts I know. All the ctrl + whatever combinations are not meant on any keyboard to produce actual characters. So I don’t see any plausible reason azerty designers have messed them up.
This will not work for English and Spanish keyboards. There is no “Alt Gr” key.
Also this is simply wrong:

(English keyboard layout showing AltGR key, Source: commons.wikimedia.org)For example, a linux distribution of French origin will make keyboard shortcuts with the “Alt Gr” key.
So they could have kept the ctrl + alt key combinations as well, and use the AltGr for additonal characters instead, which now obviously block the control sequences used by literally all software.
As there are no more free spaces on the keys
This is not the issue. The issue is that the designers have messed up the ctrl key combinations, expecting now all programs and OS to change the control sequences to the AltGr key instead of using the AltGr key for those additional characters.
And if there is a lack of keys for the french alphabet, you’d rather need different hardware, with some additional keys on it to make it work. I don’t see any reason not to add one more row to the hardware keyboard layout since it obviously is needed…Now the antiX community knows that keyboard shortcuts do not automatically work with all keyboards.
This is not an issue of some antiX tools only, it is present in thousands of programs out there due to the way the azerty treats the control keys. And it is not an issue of antiX only, it is present in other Linux as well, and also in completely different OS like Windows and Apple/Mac.
So, we need an ISO image that adapts the keyboard shortcuts to the keyboard of each country.
This is something which defintively antiX can’t stem. You’d need to create specific control key mappings for each program you can install on antiX to make it work. That’s simply impossible. And in many of them the control key codes are hard coded, not configurable at all. Don’t know what the azerty designers think who should do all this.
I stick to my original statement: This is something the designers of azerty keyboard layout or the respective keyboard drivers need to fix, so the international control sequences mapped to the ctrl+something combinations are properly sent to all the programs also from french keyboards.
As long as azerty keyboard designers don’t care for sticking to the international used control key sequences, the users will have to deal with all the missing shortcuts in all the programs in their language on their own.
Kind regards
RobinWindows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.
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