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September 23, 2020 at 6:52 am #42130Member
bb73
Hi People,
I’m new to this live os stuff running of usb stick and its pretty awsome,
I wondered, do I have to do sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade whilst running live???Cheers
bbSeptember 23, 2020 at 7:48 am #42132Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::Welcome!
Not if you don’t want to.
If you want to run live with updates, then you will need to use persist options as well.Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
September 23, 2020 at 8:02 am #42133Memberbb73
::Thank you for the info, I have persist root enabled, after I updated packages and terminal has completed, do I need to do anything when shutting down? or will the root persistence just automatically save everything 🙂
September 23, 2020 at 8:05 am #42134Forum Admin
anticapitalista
::When you set up root persistence, you were asked if you wanted to autosave, prompt to save, not save.
How big is your rootfs(root persistence) file?
How much RAM do you have?
How big is the usb stick GB?You should Remaster regularly.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
September 23, 2020 at 8:24 am #42135Anonymous
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“semi-auto”, in conjunction with persist_root, provides the freedom to experiment (modify system files, install oddball programs) with ability to forego saving changes if the results aren’t satisfactory. Also, during a semi-auto livesession you can call “persist-save” at will ~~ repeatedly, on-demand. Before electing to do something risky during the session (installing a new/unknown program, for instance) you can perform a persist save operation to create a known-good “all’s well” waypoint. FWIW, when saving changes back to a USB3 pendrive, depending on the number of newly-changed files each save operation only takes a few (5s, or 60s) seconds to complete.
tip: After persistence has been setup, we still have the freedom to select during each boot (from boot menu, or by specifying options in the bootline) whether or not to enable persistence for the session as well as the persist “mode” (auto/semi/manual).
September 23, 2020 at 8:42 am #42137Memberolsztyn
::If you want to run live with updates, then you will need to use persist options as well.
Just want to add to this advice: Once you are satisfied with your antiX updates and/or installed software then you can ‘bake’ them permanently into your Live using ‘Remaster’.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersSeptember 23, 2020 at 9:13 am #42139Anonymous
::The mention of live-remaster here, and the word “permanently”, probably muddies the water.
Changes captured via persist-save during a persist_root session are, essentially, permanently saved.
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A live-remaster operation packs the content of the original (linuxfs file)
along with the cumulatively added/changed files which have been saved into the rootfs file
into a new linuxfs file. Immediately afterward, it (live-remaster) invites you to create
a new, empty rootfs (you can defer, and later setup persistence again during a future boot).September 23, 2020 at 1:25 pm #42148Memberolsztyn
::A live-remaster operation packs the content of the original (linuxfs file)
along with the cumulatively added/changed files which have been saved into the rootfs file
into a new linuxfs file. Immediately afterward, it (live-remaster) invites you to create
a new, empty rootfs (you can defer, and later setup persistence again during a future boot).Thanks indeed for this clarification. However if any software additions or changes are done during session, before they are explicitly saved to rootfs (either manually or automatically), then they will also be ‘baked’ into linuxfs during Remaster process, in addition to any rootfs content.
The significance that changes made during session are ‘baked in’ on Remaster is that you do not need to run with Persistence (rootfs) if you want to try various software and just remaster when you are happy with software just installed and want to keep it for good.Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersSeptember 23, 2020 at 2:20 pm #42150Memberbb73
::#42134,
Thanks,Not really sure what Im doing just tinkering around and watching the dolphin tutorials, this is what I have done so far, see screenshot attachment. I also set up 1gb of swap not really sure if I needed to. I guess the next thing would be re-master, but not sure I know what Im doing there so will leave that till I have watched a few tutorials. I guess the upgrade has saved as showing 1.13gb used on rootfs 🙂Attachments:
September 23, 2020 at 3:23 pm #42152Memberolsztyn
::I am using antiX Live and Frugal exclusively, since I found it is the best fit and use of antiX no other distro can match. Looking at your screenshot you have 4GB rootfs, out of which used 1.13GB. If you are satisfied the way your system is composed and the way it runs with no issues and you want to keep it this way you can just remaster at this point. If you want to keep root persistence IMHO 4GB rootfs you have now I would consider excessive and unnecessary waste of space on your USB of 16GB. After remastering I would also suggest to delete old linuxfs file, which will also save a few GB, along with a few other *.old files.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters -
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