AntiX 19.3 on Sony Vaio Picturebook PCG-C1MZX

[Member ArchiMark]

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Hi again,

Used package installer to install Pale Moon browser. Went OK.

However, when I looked in ‘Internet’, Pale Moon is not listed.

When I tried to open it in urxvt, I get:

$ palemoon
bash: palemoon: command not found

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

[Member ArchiMark]

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Tried installing 32-bit, non-SSE2 version, Pale Moon browser as instructed.

Package installer said it installed.

However, when I tried to locate it in the ‘Internet’ section of menu, it was not listed.

Tried to open it in terminal, but nothing happened.

Looked for it in terminal and got this:

$ locate /palemoon
/etc/firejail/palemoon.profile
/usr/share/icons/numix-square-antix/48x48/apps/palemoon.png
/usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/24x24/apps/palemoon.png
/usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48x48/apps/palemoon.png
/usr/share/packageinstaller-pkglist/palemoon.pm
/usr/share/packageinstaller-pkglist/palemoon_nonsse2.pm

So, program did not really install.

Any suggestions???

Thanks!

[Member Xecure]

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I still suspect there was some corruption in the installation.

First, when you get back to connect your computer to the net try installing palemoon using the working terminal emulator:
sudo apt update && sudo apt install palemoon-nonsse2

And see if it installs properly and can be launched. This program is almost 100% guarantied to install and launch. If it doesn’t, it means there is some trouble (possible corruption) on your machine and a re-installation from a verified media may be needed.

If palemoon works, reinstall some of the programs that we mentioned have problems. Launch the commands in the working terminal emulator.

Roxterm:

sudo apt purge roxterm
sudo apt install roxterm

Package installer:

sudo apt purge packageinstaller*
sudo apt install packageinstaller

First, test if roxterm works after reinstalling. If it does, then probably other programs that were previously installed were corrupt.
If roxterm still doesn’t work after reinstallation, then it is possible that caprea was right and some software is limited in your system.

If you can get palemoon to work, try signing in to the forum and pasting the output of
inxi -Fxz
So maybe someone with similar hardware can explain what to expect for this machine.

Regards.

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[Member ArchiMark]

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Reinstalling Pale Moon worked!

Runs but slowly.

Roxterm: following package replaces it: roxterm-common

Did apt install, got:

roxterm is already latest version

Tried to run, but did not open

Reinstalled packageinstaller OK

`$ inxi -Fxz

Can’t copy and paste text from terminal now. will try later.

[Member Xecure]

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ArchiMark wrote:

roxterm is already latest version

Tried to run, but did not open

Sorry. I forgot it is roxterm-gtk2

sudo apt purge roxterm-gtk2 roxterm-common
sudo apt install roxterm-gtk2

ArchiMark wrote:

`$ inxi -Fxz

Can’t copy and paste text from terminal now. will try later.

Maybe you can copy by selecting and right-click > copy.

ArchiMark wrote:

Reinstalling Pale Moon worked!

Runs but slowly.

Good.
The problem with modern browsers + old CPUs + limited RAM. Maybe some other browser will do the trick on your old system.

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[Moderator caprea]

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ArchiMark wrote:

Can’t copy and paste text from terminal now. will try later.

In urxvt you can copy and paste by just marking the text in the terminal and then use the middle-button for pasting here.

[Member ArchiMark]

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Thanks, Xecure and caprea for your help!

Tried running roxterm after following directions, it shows up in menu, but does not open.

I tried opening it from terminal, but no go, as before…..

I did get results from running inxi command as follows:

$ inxi -Fxz | tee inxi.txt

System:
Host: marks-C1MZX Kernel: 4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp i586 bits: 32 compiler: gcc
v: 8.3.0 Desktop: IceWM 1.8.3
Distro: antiX-19.3_386-full Manolis Glezos 15 October 2020
base: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Sony product: PCG-C1MZX(J) v: 01 serial: <filter>
Mobo: N/A model: N/A serial: N/A BIOS: Phoenix v: R0246E0 date: 08/07/02

CPU:
Topology: Single Core model: Transmeta Crusoe TM5800 bits: 32 type: UP arch: N/A
L2 cache: 512 KiB
flags: N/A bogomips: 1852
Speed: 533 MHz min/max: 300/933 MHz Core speed (MHz): 1: 933

Graphics:
Device-1: AMD RV100/M6 [Rage/Radeon Mobility Series] vendor: Sony driver: radeon
v: kernel bus ID: 00:0c.0
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: ati,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280×600~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes

Audio:
Device-1: ULi M5451 PCI AC-Link Audio vendor: Sony driver: snd_ali5451 v: kernel
bus ID: 00:06.0
Device-2: Fujitsu Limited. vendor: Sony driver: N/A bus ID: 00:0a.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp

Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter vendor: Sony
driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: 2400 bus ID: 00:0b.0
IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Device-2: TP-Link TL WN823N RTL8192EU type: USB driver: rtl8xxxu bus ID: 2-1:2
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>

Drives:
Local Storage: total: 55.89 GiB used: 3.78 GiB (6.8%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Hitachi model: DK23EA-60 size: 55.89 GiB

Partition:
ID-1: / size: 52.76 GiB used: 3.78 GiB (7.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.00 GiB used: 2.7 MiB (0.1%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2

Sensors:
Message: No sensors data was found. Is sensors configured?

Info:
Processes: 140 Uptime: 29m Memory: 343.4 MiB used: 219.6 MiB (63.9%) Init: SysVinit
runlevel: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 inxi: 3.0.36

[Member Xecure]

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It seems caprea’s guess may be valid, and roxterm cannot handle your system. Use the Preferred Applications program in the Cntrol Centre to set the default terminal to the one you are using now.

Thanks for the inxi info.

ArchiMark wrote:

Audio:
Device-1: ULi M5451 PCI AC-Link Audio vendor: Sony driver: snd_ali5451 v: kernel
bus ID: 00:06.0
Device-2: Fujitsu Limited. vendor: Sony driver: N/A bus ID: 00:0a.0
Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.235-antix.1-486-smp

We will have to investigate the sound card.

Try to see if you can get it to output sound using xmms program and any audio file. Go changing between different cards as described here (third step):
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/fresh-install-no-sound-antix-19-2/#post-36314
and see if any of them work.

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Since the hardware is very limited, use the Minimal options.
This will reduce RAM usage.
At login screen, toggle F1 to Minimal-IceWM for example.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Member ArchiMark]

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@ Xecure

Thank you, will do as you suggest and report back!

@ anticapitalista

Thank you, will try your suggestion and report back!

[Member ArchiMark]

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Hi,

Here’s update on how things are working on the Vaio laptop.

Overall, it’s working quite well now, considering age and specs of laptop.

A. Programs

Spent quite a bit of time yesterday going through all the programs in the menu to see if the open.

Most programs do open, but there are a fair amount that do not.

Here’s list of programs (as listed in the Menu) that do not open:

Terminal

Web Browser

In Applications / antiX category:

Backlight Brightness

Chroot Rescue Scan

CLI APT-based Package Manager

Command Line Control Centre

Live-USB Kernel Updater

In Accessories category:

Calcurse

Midnight Commander Editor

In Games:

Gweled

Mahjonng

In Internet:

Ceni

Droopy

Firefox ESR

Modem Manager GUI

Transmission

In Multimedia:

Alsamixer

Alsamixer Equalizer

MPS-YouTube

Poor Man’s Radio Player

Speaker Test

In Preferences:

ADSL/PPPOE Configuration

In Programming:

Vim.tiny

In System:

Choose Startup Services

Assume if I want to know for sure, I need to try and install the programs listed and then see if they open.

B. Booting Up – Console Info

When I boot up, I see the following various lines in Console:

nce: Unable to init device /dev/ncelog (rc: -5)
…..

AC ’97 1 access is not valid [0xffff…] removing mixer.
Snd_ali5451
……

Setting sensor limits….No sensor found.
Try sensors-detect

Any concern over these messages?

C. Conky – Battery

In Conky, battery only shows 0%.

Is there a way to get battery charge to be shown?

D. Connman

When the window opens up for you to select the browser to open, Pale Moon, the browser that I recently installed is not in the list. Is there an easy way to have it added to the list?

E. Audio

Good news!

I do hear audio when I run a video or sound file in a webpage.

Also, as directed, I played an audio mp3 file in xmms and I heard the audio.

That’s the good news.

However, I don’t have any audio volume control in the taskbar. Is this because I don’t have Alsamixer working right now or ?
Would be great to have volume control readily accessible.

Again, overall, very pleased with how well antiX runs on such an old laptop and enjoy using antiX in general.

Thanks for any input!

Mark

[Member Xecure]

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ArchiMark wrote:

In Applications / antiX category:
Backlight Brightness
Chroot Rescue Scan
CLI APT-based Package Manager
Command Line Control Centre
Live-USB Kernel Updater

In Accessories category:
Calcurse
Midnight Commander Editor
[…]

In Internet:
Ceni
Droopy

For terminal based applications, change the terminal app using the instructions I gave before:

Xecure wrote:

Use the Preferred Applications program in the Cntrol Centre to set the default terminal to the one you are using now.

and see if they load after the change.

If possible, when you again have free time, re-download the 19.3 ISO and try to boot live again with the new downloaded version. See if roxterm loads on the live system. I want to be sure that the problems you are experiencing are not due to corrupted a ISO.

ArchiMark wrote:

B. Booting Up – Console Info

When I boot up, I see the following various lines in Console:

nce: Unable to init device /dev/ncelog (rc: -5)
...
AC ’97 1 access is not valid [0xffff…] removing mixer.
Snd_ali5451
...
Setting sensor limits….No sensor found.
Try sensors-detect

Any concern over these messages?

No idea. It seems related to the sound driver, but I am no expert reading the kernel messages.

ArchiMark wrote:

C. Conky – Battery
In Conky, battery only shows 0%.

For conky to display the correct battery level, we will have to figure out if the battery is recognized. Run in terminal:
ls -lh /sys/class/power_supply
If you have the green bar in the icewm toolbar indicating battery level, maybe changing the variable in conky from BAT0 to BAT1 (if that is the correct identifier) may work.
For now share the output of the command above.

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D. Connman
When the window opens up for you to select the browser to open, Pale Moon, the browser that I recently installed is not in the list. Is there an easy way to have it added to the list?

I am not sure if this is connman, but if you mean the “Web Browser” menu entry, use the “Preferred Applications” program I mentioned to change the default web browser to palemoon. This should fix it so it would load properly when clicking the “Web browser” menu entry.

ArchiMark wrote:

However, I don’t have any audio volume control in the taskbar. Is this because I don’t have Alsamixer working right now or ?

My guess this is because you are running minimal-icewm. try only desktop-session icewm (Menu > Desktop > Other Desktops > icewm). It takes over 8 MBs or RAM, but will give you the volume icon to manage/control the volume level.
If you see it uses too much RAM, create a key shortcut to raise and lower the volume, so you can do it without needing the volume icon.

See the ~/.icewm/keys as I think a combination is already there (amixer sset Master 5%-/5%+). Change it to the key combination you prefer (if you are interested in following this path).

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[Member ArchiMark]

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Thanks, as always, for your help, Xecure!

Will try your latest suggestions and report back.

Some I can do soon, but the one about using a new iso will have to wait until next Friday. As I don’t have the Sony DVD drive with me right now.

[Member Xecure]

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About changing the default terminal:
I was testing today different option of Preferred Applications, and it seems it changes the mimeopen behavior but not the x-terminal-emulator behavior.

To change the default terminal, you need to (when other programs launch it), you need to run:
sudo update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator
and write the number of the terminal emulator you want as default (in my case it showed “4. /usr/bin/urxvt” for urxvt).
You could also try the other terminal emulators to see which works for you.

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[Member ArchiMark]

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Hi,

Tried using the dvd Live version again….

Same problem with opening certain apps….so, maybe problem is the iso I burned…although I did check the checksum before burning disk.

Will try downloading iso file again and burning a new dvd. Then will report back on what happens.

As for battery, I got:

$ ls -lh /sys/class/power_supply
total 0

Tried IceWM again, and your right, see the volume control. So, that’s good.

Thanks.

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