antiX-22 being worked on

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

This is just to let you know that antiX-22 is being worked on.

I have decided to up the version to 22 rather than 21.1 because antiX-22 will be completely free of elogind/libelogind0.
It will use seatd instead.

I have been running antiX-21 like this for months (installed and frugal) without issue.

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[Member calciumsodium]

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Very cool. Thanks for letting us know.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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Looking forward to seeing and using antiX 22!

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[Member olsztyn]

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anticapitalista wrote:

I have decided to up the version to 22 rather than 21.1 because antiX-22 will be completely free of elogind/libelogind0.
It will use seatd instead.
I have been running antiX-21 like this for months (installed and frugal) without issue.

Thank you!
I have been running *elogind*-free runit for many months too with no issue. Good it will be labelled as 22 not 21.1 due to a decisive elimination of *elogind* across the board.

To be more clear on details:
– As it is described as ‘being worked on’: Is there more in 22 than just firmly declaring *elogind*-free is ‘officially’ the new way… Will I see any difference, being already *elogind* free for half a year? Do I need to do anything on the current 21 runit *elogind*-free? Or do I need to re-install?
– As edition is changing to 22, hopefully it will continue as Grup Yorum line and spirit, rather than changing name. As a matter of fact I am listening to Grup Yorum Mix as I am typing this, unrelated to your announcement…
In any case, thanks for continuing antiX evolution to new hights…

• This reply was modified 10 months, 2 weeks ago by olsztyn.
• This reply was modified 10 months, 2 weeks ago by olsztyn.

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Some more details.

The only big/real change is that antiX-22 will be elogind-free out of the box as an iso file.
All antiX-21 iso files currently include elogind.
This will be the first ‘bullseye’ based iso without it.
(Note antiX-17.5 and antiX-19.5 are both elogind-free).

Existing users of antiX will not need to reinstall.

The version name will not change.
The default ‘look’ such as theme, wallpaper etc will not change.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Member marcelocripe]

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This is just to let you know that antiX-22 is being worked on.

I have decided to up the version to 22 rather than 21.1 because antiX-22 will be completely free of elogind/libelogind0.
It will use seatd instead.

I have been running antiX-21 like this for months (installed and frugal) without issue.

This is excellent news.
Can we give our suggestions?

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)

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Esta é uma excelente notícia.
Nós podemos dar as nossas sugestões?

marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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This is excellent news.
Can we give our suggestions?

marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)

Sure, please do.

Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

[Member ile]

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antiX works equally just as diligently to go under the bar as it does work hard to go over the bar. Somewhat limbo [dance, game.]

Champions.

[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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Brian Masinick wrote:

Looking forward to seeing and using antiX 22!

Along those ‘lines’, when there is a build available I’d love to test and assist in any way possible.

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[Member madibi]

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This is really a good news!
I’m still noob since 2003, so I don’t perceive what will happens with the improvements that you are declaring to study/test/ and implement.

From my point of view of basic end user, I can say that from 17 to 19 to 21, antiX is becoming more user friendly and more beautiful to see.

@anticapitalista
My wish is that in this new development you will prosecute to stick to your original manifesto and continue to create the “lightest, but 100% still usable with modern sw” distro in the planet. So my request is that you should be Draconian to avoid whistle and bell.

Secondly, and only for diffusion marketing of the distro, I find it an excellent idea to continue to insert the possibility of inserting FT10 as an option. Maybe you can advertise it on the home page.

Also other options may be offered, and this does not contradict my first request, as it is up to the user to choose whether to burden the system. In case he has a good PC.

VERY VERY OPTIONAL
Last request, if possible and if it does not burden the system, is to have the possibility with zzzfm to browse the samba network “in an easy way” (as other distros do), without having to know ex ante the ip-address of the samba-shares (already @PPC answered NO to me, during the FT10 development).

LAST QUESTION: with the new release, how many PCs will be left to their fate?
With what hw features?

Many many thanks again. I’m very grateful to you and all the active members of the forum

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Dear anticapitalista,

This is very good news.

I have a suggestion.

When I do a new installation, I run this command line;
“sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales”.

So, when I update antiX, I only get 4 languages. Here is a small copy of my update;

Generating locales (this might take a while)…
en_US.ISO-8859-1… done
en_US.UTF-8… done
fr_BE.UTF-8… done
fr_FR.UTF-8… done
Generation complete.

I don’t know if I should keep the locales for English. I’m thinking that if the program is not translated into French, maybe you should keep an English locale on your system.

My suggestion, can you put a button in the control center to activate this function? I have seen in several distributions that there is this kind of function to lighten the distribution. It shouldn’t take up much space in the distribution because the package is already included in the ISO.

We could also put a button to do the cleanup with this command;
“sudo dpkg-reconfigure localepurge”

It saves a lot of time to do the updates. antiX will be even faster…

Best regards,
Wallon

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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Wallon wrote:

Dear anticapitalista,

This is very good news.

I have a suggestion.

When I do a new installation, I run this command line;
“sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales”.

So, when I update antiX, I only get 4 languages. Here is a small copy of my update;

Generating locales (this might take a while)…
en_US.ISO-8859-1… done
en_US.UTF-8… done
fr_BE.UTF-8… done
fr_FR.UTF-8… done
Generation complete.

I don’t know if I should keep the locales for English. I’m thinking that if the program is not translated into French, maybe you should keep an English locale on your system.

My suggestion, can you put a button in the control center to activate this function? I have seen in several distributions that there is this kind of function to lighten the distribution. It shouldn’t take up much space in the distribution because the package is already included in the ISO.

We could also put a button to do the cleanup with this command;
“sudo dpkg-reconfigure localepurge”

It saves a lot of time to do the updates. antiX will be even faster…

Best regards,
Wallon

I agree with Wallon. In my case I only speak American English and recognize a small handful of words in other languages, not nearly enough to justify switching locales or removing dozens of them.

A dialogue during the installation to select the language (default C) would be useful. Not even multilingual people are likely to use more than 5 languages and it would be rare if someone selected ten or more languages and actually used them.

A true linguistics expert could certainly select many languages at installation and add more locales by installing more locale packages.

Great suggestion! I agree 100%.

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[Moderator Brian Masinick]

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In the event that some people love having all of the locales, perhaps that’s an option for the Full distribution. For Core, no locales other than C by default (that may already be the case). I suggest the same for Base, with the opportunity to add additional locales as needed.

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anti, thanks for all the effort and hard work you and the other Devs put into continually improving the distro.

I tried searching for a comparison between elogind and seatd and was able to see that elogind seems to be Debian’s way to replacing systemd, but to be honest didn’t find a good layman’s explanation of the difference or pros and cons.

I did however find a post from olstxyn that it would reduce the memory footprint, which would be a tremendous plus on the older machines where bigger and slower programs are perpetually a growing problem. Of course I am always willing to help test and debug on both my antiques and more modern machines.

Can anyone help with a less technical explanation of the differences and advantages of the change?

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Hi,

As a Sid user (based on antiX-19), I have three questions:

1) Will/can I transition to an elogind/libelogind0-free system by apt-update and apt full-upgrade or would I need to do a new install?

2) Will Pipewire (or Pulseaudio) be installable and work without libelogind0 in antiX-22?

3) Will antiX-22 support users who need/want libelogind0 for some application (v.s. question #2)?

Happy to try testing if it would be helpful.

stevesr0

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