antiX-22 being worked on

[Member olsztyn]

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olsztyn wrote:

Kernel 5.18 appears to have the largest memory footprint though, which seems to me as much as 60M more than kernel 5.10.

anticapitalista wrote:

antiX-22 will ship with legacy 4.9 and ‘modern’ 5.10 kernels.

Decision on kernel version made by anticapitalista renders my prior comments on kernel 5.15 and 5.18 irrelevant to the subject of this thread. However I just want to correct my findings on memory footprint following further testing on various laptops:
– The largest memory footprint using kernel 5.18 I measured on 2008 Thinkpad X61 (Core2Duo) – almost 60M more than kernel 5.10
– The smallest increase in memory footprint noticed so far is on my Thinkpad T410 – just about 10M more.
– Using kernel 5.15 – just somewhere in between.

Considering default kernel (modern) for antiX-22 will be ver. 5.10, this means the most efficient, I do not expect overall memory footprint of antiX to change from that of antiX-21.

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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I created a Separate thread for Preferred Applications (desktop-defaults-set) enhancement since it was diverting this thread, and moved the posts on that to it.

If interested in that topic, look here instead:
https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/separate-thread-for-preferred-applications-desktop-defaults-set-enhancement/

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– The largest memory footprint using kernel 5.18 I measured on 2008 Thinkpad X61 (Core2Duo) – almost 60M more than kernel 5.10
– The smallest increase in memory footprint noticed so far is on my Thinkpad T410 – just about 10M more.

But the “memory footprint” comparision may be muddied by testing on multiple machines. If Thinkpad X61 has more RAM than the Thinkpad T410….. maybe it receives a comparatively larger tmpfs. tmpfs size is assigned based on percent of available RAM, right? Also, what if one machine is loading a hefty external nvidia module, vs inbuilt integrated graphics module being loaded by the other machine?

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iznit wrote:

But the “memory footprint” comparision may be muddied by testing on multiple machines. If Thinkpad X61 has more RAM than the Thinkpad T410….. maybe it receives a comparatively larger tmpfs. tmpfs size is assigned based on percent of available RAM, right? Also, what if one machine is loading a hefty external nvidia module, vs inbuilt integrated graphics module being loaded by the other machine?

@iznit:
You are absolutely right. Proper benchmark should be done to make sure we do not compare apples to oranges. My test was just rudimentary. Both machine have the same amount of memory though – 4Gb. On T410 running Nouveau driver rather than nVidia driver. My results are also too far off each other. The only reasonable conclusion is that kernel 5.18 appears to take more memory footprint than kernel 5.10, which should not be a surprise…

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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Awesome stuff! Down with getting rid of elogind/libelogind0 deps.

If you are looking for early testers before general release, I would love to build out my antix-core dwm respin with it and see what magical or evil things result. 🙂 Otherwise, I will patiently await its release.

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techore wrote:

Awesome stuff! Down with getting rid of elogind/libelogind0 deps.
If you are looking for early testers before general release, I would love to build out my antix-core dwm respin with it and see what magical or evil things result.

I have been using *elogind*-free antix 21 runit since about beginning of this year on various machines. Running JWM and DWM. Only good results in my experience. Rock solid and no adverse surprises. Since in my understanding antiX 22 is at this point basically antiX 21 coming out as *elogind*-free by default, I do not expect any difference.
My DWM is 6.2 pretty much default, compiled just with hardware keys definitions and streamlined Alt-keys mapping. No particular customization of status bar though. Your DWM is way more sophisticated. You do not need to wait for the official antiX 22 announcement to compose your DWM respin. You can test it now.
I am just a mainstream antiX user, not part of antiX team and I like what anticapitalist’s strategy brings about. Simplicity, dexterity and rock solid reliability…

• This reply was modified 8 months, 2 weeks ago by olsztyn.

Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

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olsztyn wrote:

You do not need to wait for the official antiX 22 announcement to compose your DWM respin. You can test it now.

@olsztyn, good to know and thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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All, if I find a package with a libelogind dependency, what forum section would I call that out as part of the planning for antiX 22 release?

For example, I use qemu/kvm.

> sudo apt install qemu-system-x86
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libbrlapi0.8 libelogind0
Suggested packages:
  samba vde2 qemu-block-extra
Recommended packages:
  qemu-system-gui ovmf
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libbrlapi0.8 libelogind0 qemu-system-x86
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 8,626 kB of archives.
After this operation, 35.9 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]

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Hi all, just removed purged elogind and libpam-elogind Installed seatd.
APT did not protest. Following dist-upgrade also no errors.

SID System: antiX 21, SysV init, active sid repos, kernel 5.18.04 Unlocked I5 Quad core
8GB Mem. Nvidia GT710 Passive cooled Grafics. ICEWM.
5.10 Kernel variants will run on this system but my NVME disk in a PCI adapter
preferres a newer kernel.
This setup is running like Mr Bolt. More than fast.

Early days but all seems fine. Including Printing with Brother drivers
which is really important to my setup.

I do not use pipewire, want best sound quality so pure alsa.

@stevesrO re. question 3. I have swapped out elogind so you will almost
certainly be able to use it later along with libpam-elogind if needed.

If you are worried pin the packages and test on a separate live system
made from an image of your installed system.

• This reply was modified 7 months ago by ModdIt.

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