antiX 22 elogindfree – to be seated or not to be seated: that is the question.

[Member Robin]

Hello!

After upgrading to antiX 22 I decided to get rid of elogind stuff now finally, to have running the pure antiX 22 here (not counting for the debian kernel, needed still to circumvent the nouveau issue).
It looked actually easy, since there were no dependencies to elogind package left after the upgrade from antiX 21, so I tried immediately:

apt-get --simulate purge elogind
for testing first, which came up with no issues, so I proceeded with

apt-get purge elogind

which removed it properly along with libpam-elogind.

Instead this command installed some other antiX specific packages automatically:

consolekit
libcgmanager0
libck-connector0
libnih-dbus1
libnih1
libpolkit-gobject-consolekit-1-0

After this, the system works as stable as before. So elogind really isn’t needed to run a system.

I have to admit: Obviously I missed to find the proper instructions here beforehand, which anticapitalista had given somewhere in the tons of threads here already:

“install seatd instead”

So I didn’t do this. I only found these instruction later now, checked the system, and noticed: There is no seat and no seatd present here, but my system still runs fine. So I started searching the forum and the web, what this seat and seatd might be good for. Strange thing, maybe it is caused by having to search in a foreign language, that I don’t find any comprehensive statement what this thing is and what it actually does, which a kernel before the seats aera haven’t managed as well. My vague impression is, that it is needed if you want to connect for multiple users multiple keyboards, multiple screens and multiple whatever to a single PC and allow multiple users to use them the very same time. But as said, I’m not sure whether I did get this right.

So my question is: Should I install seat? What will not work properly or poorly when it is not present on a system? When (in which precise use cases) should I install it? Do I actually need it if there is only a single user typing and reading at a time on a system?

Kind regards
Robin

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[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Technically, you/one probably don’t/doesn’t need seatd (whether running sysVinit or runit).
It depends on which apps are installed for example on runit, connman ‘needs’ a ‘seat’ such as elogind or systemd or seatd to work properly.

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[Member Antix-X]

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Where can I find how to upgrade from Antix 21 to Antix 22?

[Moderator christophe]

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https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-22-released/

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