antiX-23.1-full-runit 64 bit for testers only

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  • #122050
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    anticapitalista

      I’d like people to test this out.
      The iso is about 1.7GB.
      In particular, have we fixed the 2 main bugs – UEFI boot and sound out of the box?
      Note – The flashing gui exit when rebooting/shutting down has not been fixed (yet).

      Please test on real hardware and post all relevant details
      eg frugal, local set to Greek, no persistence etc

      Please try switching from default pipewire to alsa and back.

      I’d like to hear from those who have had issues with pipewire and no sound (let’s leave out quality of sound for now).

      https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/Testing/

      Thanks

      Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

      antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

      #122069
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      abc-nix

        The most important update is the glibc security patch, the “Looney Tunables” Privilege Escalation. A few distros have released point releases to replace their main ISO so that people download the release with the security fix. I was going to mention this here a few weeks ago, but burdening anticapitalista to build over 10 ISOs is just being a d*ck. Thankfully, this point release arrived just in time. (People who update their system regularly are OK, don’t worry; this is just a recommendation for new downloads).

        I will test on live-USB tomorrow. Thanks, anticapitalista.

        #122073
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        Xunzi_23

          Thank you anticapitalista, will start with live USB on my setup Tomorrow.
          Monday or Tuesday first sound tests on a completely different different device at a friends house.

          #122083
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          calciumsodium

            Just a quick boot up of the this test antiX 23.1 from live DVD.

            On this live-DVD test system, the volumeicon does not show up after boot, even though the startup file has volumeicon has it to be launched with a preceding sleep 5.

            There is still sound however.

            After install, the volumeicon does show up after boot. Yes sound is present.

            The grub menu of the install system says only “Debian” as the label for this installed system, but not something like antiX 23.1. May have include antiX 23.1 label in the grub settings.

            Machine:
            Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Inspiron 530 v: N/A
            serial: <superuser required>
            Mobo: Dell model: 0G679R v: A00 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell
            v: 1.0.18 date: 02/24/2009
            CPU:
            Info: dual core Intel Core2 Duo E7300 [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 2631
            min/max: 1600/2667
            Graphics:
            Device-1: Intel 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
            Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: i915
            gpu: i915 resolution: 1600×900~60Hz
            API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.3 renderer: i915 (: G33)

            • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by calciumsodium.
            #122085
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            PPC

              @calciumsodium – loading a live system from an optical disk is extremely slow- I bet that the problem is that even sleeping 5 seconds before trying to launch volumeicon, the pipewire related processes don’t have enough time to load before the system tries to load the volumeicon. If you try booting live once again, from that disk, try waiting some 30 seconds adn then: menu > Run > volumeicon
              I bet it should load fine- audio is working, that’s the main goal. It’s not ideal, but volumeicon can be started by users any time they want, and volume can always be managed by pavucontrol (that’s in the menu).

              P.

              • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by PPC.
              #122087
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              anticapitalista

                @calciumsodium – Or try toram boot code

                Noted – thanks for the grub report – it will be fixed

                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                #122109
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                calciumsodium

                  1. Install on UEFI system works for me. Thank you.

                  2. On the installed system, using Firefox ESR. Accessing the antiX forum. If you click on forum > recent topics, latest topics etc, it does not work.
                  Edit: after several reboots, the firefox-esr recent topics, latest topics works. Strange. The first few times did not work. But that is what I observed.

                  3. On the installed system, volumeicon is present. Sound works out of the box.

                  4. On the live DVD system using the 6.1 kernel, volumeicon is not present. There is sound however. This is similar to what I found on a the live DVD on a different system. On that other system, I was running the 5.10 kernel. Interestingly, in terminal if I type volumeicon, volumeicon appears. When I close the terminal, volumeicon disappears. Is this the expected behavior?
                  Edit: every time running live DVD, no volumeicon after boot. But running alsamixer or pavucontrol can change volume. Or run volumeicon manually after boot would get volumeicon to appear.

                  5. On the live DVD system, in the menu, there is a main section Applications. Under this is submenu antiX. Under this antiX submenu are two menus both called Accessories, with the same icon. But they contain different things. In the first Accessories subsubmenu, there is set up persistence, etc. In the second Accessories subsubmenu, there is Cherrytree, etc. There is no System submenu. But in the installed system, these are not not present. They are back to “normal.”
                  Edit: running refresh menu solves the problem. There is a lot of error in the menu creation program in the live. Every time I boot up live, I get a different menu and submenus. Sometimes, there is a double selection of everything.

                  md5 confirmed before burning DVD.

                  • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by calciumsodium.
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                  #122111
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                  PPC

                    @calciumsodium – please read my previous post, explaining why volumeicon did not appear when booting from the DVD and how to make volumeicon appear manually.

                    When you launch anything from a terminal, the default behavior is always that when you close that terminal, you close all it’s child processes, including any application you started from that terminal session. That’s a Linux thing, not an antiX problem. That’s why I recommended using the “run” entry on the menu, and not using the terminal, to start volumeicon. My recommendation – don’t do things the hard way, do them as advised 🙂

                    On the menu problems – please check if clicking the “Refresh” menu entry, on antiX’s menu, right below the “Applications” menu solves the problem. The script that generates the antiX menu sometimes errors out when the system is too slow or the boot medium too slow (like booting from a DVD)- my suggested workaround, that I already presented here in the forum is that, when running in live mode, antiX should run the script that refreshes the menu in the end of the window manager’s startup file. That would add a few seconds delay on slow computers but should also always provide a perfectly configured menu.

                    P.

                    • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by PPC.
                    #122117
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                    Xunzi_23

                      With pipewire no sound, from controll center setup or speaker test done manually.
                      Nothing in mixer muted.

                      Switched off pipewire sound worked immediately.

                      Pls guys put the switch off option in the controll center hardware Sound section, searching in menus is
                      off putting and absolutely illogical.

                      As a new user I would not have known of its existence, called antiX crap and moved on to another offering where sound worked
                      both in the speaker test, and applications….

                      No fancy settings or extra knowledge were needed, after switching off the pipedream, opened controll center, set soundcard yet
                      again to ensure correct, did the speaker test, since then sound just works.

                      Big improvement is the switch off now works. Thanks PPC abc-nix,

                      Output device is the Audigy, device-3
                      Audio:
                      Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Gigabyte 7
                      driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20 class-ID: 0403
                      Device-2: NVIDIA GK208 HDMI/DP Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
                      pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 8 bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0e0f class-ID: 0403
                      Device-3: Creative Labs EMU10k2/CA0100/CA0102/CA10200 [Sound Blaster Audigy Series]
                      driver: snd_emu10k1 v: kernel bus-ID: 04:02.0 chip-ID: 1102:0004 class-ID: 0401
                      Sound API: ALSA v: k6.1.55-antix.1-amd64-smp running: yes

                      • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by Xunzi_23.
                      #122120
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                      anticapitalista

                        Thanks.
                        Those of you who have bluetooth headphones.
                        Does it work out of the box? ie with pipewire
                        Does it work if you switch to alsa?

                        Does tethering work?

                        Does your phone show up when plugged in?

                        Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                        antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                        #122121
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                        madibi

                          2. On the installed system, using Firefox ESR. Accessing the antiX forum. If you click on forum > recent topics, latest topics etc, it does not work.
                          Edit: after several reboots, the firefox-esr recent topics, latest topics works. Strange. The first few times did not work. But that is what I observed.

                          The described issue is not related to the distro test. That happened also to me yesterday night, without testing, only during one of my daily chechs of the forum.

                          m

                          #122122
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                          marcelocripe

                            If the “volumeicon” continues to give problems, could the volume control that PPC uses in the FT10 be a good solution?
                            Even without the “volumeicon” icon in the system tray, I can have the sound working with the “antiX-23.1-runit_x64-full.iso” ISO, but I can control the volume with Pavucontrol or ALsaMixer when the PipeWire is active or when Alsa is active.
                            Thank you for making the ISO available for testing.

                            Note: Off topic, I made a new merge request for the file antix-cloud.desktop.

                            – – – – –

                            Se o “volumeicon” continua dando problemas, será que o controle de volume que o PPC utiliza no FT10 poderia ser uma boa solução?
                            Mesmo sem o ícone do “volumeicon” na bandeja do sistema, eu consigo ter o som funcionando com a ISO “antiX-23.1-runit_x64-full.iso”, mas consigo controlar o volume com o Pavucontrol ou com o ALsaMixer quando o PipeWire está ativo ou quando é o Alsa que está ativo.
                            Eu agradeço por disponibilizar a ISO para ser testada.

                            Observação: Fora do assunto principal, eu fiz um novo pedido de mesclagem para o arquivo antix-cloud.desktop.

                            #122124
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                            PPC

                              Pls guys put the switch off option in the controll center hardware Sound section

                              I think I suggested that already.
                              I know anticapitalista seems to not want to increase the number of options each Control Center tab has (max 8 options per tab)… It that’s a real problem, I suggest removing the Alsa equalizer (that I’m betting few users really use) and replace it with the “Pipewire toggle” entry, on the Full version of antiX.
                              It’s logical for similar switches to be on the configuration app of any OS (but I think only antiX has this kind of switch).

                              Note: I also think that only extremely motivated first time users, when testing antiX for the very first time and don’t sound working, will even look at the Control Centre to try to find a solution. Most people don’t even know what an audio server is (so, they have no idea what pipewire is- so perhaps keeping it’s default icon, “musical notes”, helps people notice that’s a sound related setting). We have almost 0 chance of a new user trying out antiX for the first time and finds out sound is not working, comes to the forum, reads about pipewire and finds out how to solve the problem, just by pressing a slider. There’s nothing we can do about that- pipewire is currently being used on the majority of distros… so if a computer has no audio under pipewire in antiX, I assume it won’t have audio in any other distro that uses pipewire, right? At least in antiX, there’s a easy “fix” (I can already see a new user: no audio > press that slider thingie > Yes! Audio > Installs Firefox > Firefox has no audio! What the….???)

                              @anticapitalista – this is of topic – there are several commits on the git, all extremely minor configuration tweaks, but if you agree with any of those suggestions, adding them o antiX 23.1 defaults would be a nice touch.

                              @marcelocripe – antiX Full already includes the yad-volume script, as an alternative to volumeicon (it’s meant to be run just when needed to change volume, and not to stay resident on RAM, like volumeicon, so using it from a toolbar icon would be my suggestion)

                              P.

                              • This reply was modified 6 months, 3 weeks ago by PPC.
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                              #122127
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                              abc-nix

                                Please try switching from default pipewire to alsa and back.

                                The toggle switch works properly on live USB. I took the chance to send the a merge request to gitlab, which you proposed here. Once merged, volumeicon’s config will update automatically to alsamixer or pavucontrol (if installed) when toggling off/on.

                                Those of you who have bluetooth headphones.
                                Does it work out of the box? ie with pipewire

                                I had to toggle bluetooth ON in cmst and relaunch bluez manager twice, but it works perfectly. I could connect with my bluetooth headphones with pipewire enabled and listen to music on youtube.
                                I was also able to send an image from my android phone through bluetooth to the live antiX.

                                Does it work if you switch to alsa?

                                Once I switched pipewire off, complete disconnect of my bluetooth headphones. I don’t know how to make them work with pure ALSA. I switched pipewire on again ang it worked again.

                                Does tethering work?

                                I don’t have a USB modem, so no idea. What I was able to do is set my android phone to share my connection through USB, connected to antiX, and connman detected it immediately. I disabled wifi on antiX and the phone sharing connection worked perfectly like plug-and-play. I could use firefox and reach the forum and could view youtube no problem. This is a great feature to connect to the internet while testing without having to write the passphrase every time I use a new live USB.

                                Does your phone show up when plugged in?

                                No. Where should it show up? “Android Device SB connect” no longer works out of the box., so I wasn’t able to test any further.

                                The volumeicon issue can be “fixed” restarting the session. Now that pipewire cannot start twice, restarting the session is no longer an issue.

                                #122136
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                                caprea

                                  Many thanks anticapitalista.
                                  Tested a live usb stick on a lenovo t440 until now.
                                  Volume icon appears without problems, sound works ootb.
                                  For bluetooth it needs to be enabled in the runit-service-manager as always on live stick..Sound works as expected. If turning the bluetooth headset off, sound comes out of the speakers immediately and the same the other way around. Perfect.

                                  After switching to alsa i had to set the soundcard in CC but then volumeicon appeared and sound works. As expected no bluetooth.

                                  I switched back to pipewire and volumeicon showed up by itself. Sound works.

                                  Once merged, volumeicon’s config will update automatically to alsamixer or pavucontrol (if installed) when toggling off/on.

                                  Thanks abc-nix, this is still a missing point.

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