antiX-23.1-full-runit 64 bit for testers only

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  • #124065
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    stevesr0

      Hi Brian,

      Is “locate/updatedb” comparable? That’s what I use.

      #124075
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      Brian Masinick

        Yeah they both get the job done too.
        Plenty of ways to search and these are fine.

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        Brian Masinick

        #124321
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        PPC

          @anticapitalista – just an heads up – there are a few commits waiting approval over at https://gitlab.com/antiX-Linux/antix-goodies/-/merge_requests
          Two are mine, related to “fbxkb-toggle”, that I already commited (and you accepted) to the project “antix-goodies-2023”, before noticing that “antiX-goodies” was probably the right place…
          Just in case I make future additions, which one is the right project?

          Off topic, but answering what was talked some posts ago:
          @Mr Masinick – sorry I derailed the Thread for a while, introducing a question about Finder to anticapitalista… I just wanted to comment that Finder’s file search is just a GUI for the “find” command, that’s where the script really gets it’s name from. “find” is powerful and simple, but can get quite complex (ex: the current version of Finder runs a long find command to also display date of last modification and approximated size, basically the only thing that matters when searching for a file, other than the file name and full path). It was tiresome, but I enjoyed “finding” (pun intended) how to make the script do exactly what I wanted!

          P.

          • This reply was modified 7 months ago by PPC.
          #124334
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          anticapitalista

            @PPC – I created a new repo

            https://gitlab.com/antiX-Linux/antix-fbxkb-toggle

            Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

            antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

            #124352
            Moderator
            Brian Masinick

              “Masinick – sorry I derailed the Thread for a while, introducing a question about Finder to anticapitalista… `”

              No problem at all. The main conversation is about 23.1; as long as we’re talking about the release and the features, all is well.

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              Brian Masinick

              #124356
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              PPC

                Not sure if any of this is important. Today, while updating antix 23.1v2 Live, I got this:

                update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-6.1.60-antix.1-amd64-smp
                cryptsetup: ERROR: Couldn’t resolve device overlay
                cryptsetup: WARNING: Couldn’t determine root device

                Available xsessions have changed
                Updating Slimski /etc/slimski.local.conf

                #124383
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                PPC

                  During my coffee break, I took a look at my updated antiX 23.1v2 live:

                  -I still recommend to insert, on the main Boot screen something like “If you previously selected your language, please do it again”, because… well, having to select your language twice is not what usually users expect. I find no problem with the fact that antiX’s boot screens act in a non usual way- but regular users could be reminded to select their language again. Many folks that have English as a second language don’t even register that the main boot screen is not in their native tongue, until they notice that the entire OS is in English, and the installer too (and I think it results in the first layer of the menu, on the install system being in English)- all that caused because most people expect to have to select the language only once.

                  -I really, really love the Control Centre – the fact that it now includes tool-tips is really a nice touch to an excelent tool- it’s a shame that not all entries have tooltips yet
                  – How did I not ever noticed the “sync folders” entry? Great tool, but really needs a tool-tip!
                  – Still recommend to add the shared folders script to the “Shares” tab.
                  – Suggestion – If searchmonkey will cease coming by default, since some users may, for one reason or another miss it, adding it to the first Package Installer tab would be handy. Another suggestion, since it’s so easy to use- if possible add “LocalSend” to Package Installer – it’s a great GUI tool to share files to/from almost any possible computing device, on the same network (windows, mac, linux, android, IOS) – it’s available over at https://localsend.org/#/
                  – Really, really nitpicking: if all control Centre tabs content start from left to right, why is the Nvidia driver installer on the right side (tip: I really know why, because there used to be a now deleted entry to the left of it. When that entry was removed, the Nvidia entry just remained on the same place, instead of getting moved to the first available stop)

                  Still nitpicking, but stuff I probably can try to commit to git:
                  -change zzzfm’s icon, on the .desktop file to the one our version now uses by default (the blue folder icon)
                  -optionally also use the very same icon in the default File Manager .desktop file. I just think that anyone sees it and realizes what it does. The “file cabinet drawer” is not an instant association, at least, not to me.

                  On trying to deal with antiX “bloat” – do we really need “dillo”, on antiX 23? Please note, if it does get removed, I still recommend adding it to the first Package Installer “Browsers” tab, so folks that miss it, for some reason, can easily install it. This is the only possible “antiX bloat” that I can think of (other than having 2 GUI text editors, but I understand perfectly the reason for that).

                  Also – I made, so long ago that I don’t even recall in which thread, a suggestion for a script that replaced the current “icewm recent files” one- that BobC seemed to approve. That script would be simpler to use… even if that script is not applied, IceWM’s menu file can be edited so users don’t have to go through 2 submenus to reach recent files (I also posted about that once or twice, before antiX came out, so probably in one of the threads related to the testing versions).

                  Other than that, my only possible suggestion would be: why not using a more recent LibreOffice branch, 7.6.X?

                  NOTE: a new version of Claws just came out with some improvements!

                  P.

                  • This reply was modified 7 months ago by PPC.
                  #124389
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                  Xunzi_23

                    @abc-nix conmann connection issue disappears if I activate logging so can not as yet
                    catch messages.

                    #124392
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                    anticapitalista

                      @PPC – just so you know, adding more apps to package manager means a lot of translation changes in PI descriptions as they get out of sync.
                      It takes hours to resync (and check).

                      Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                      antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                      #124394
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                      sybok

                        @PPC: Latest LO = 7.6.X
                        https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libreoffice&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
                        Debian’s:
                        stable = 7.4.7-1,
                        stable, backports = 7.5.8
                        testing = 7.5.8

                        Not sure which would be installed in package manager (did not show version and I did not want to proceed with ‘Install’ not sure whether a confirmation will be asked).

                        EDIT: (Did not fully finish my post since I had to leave.) I guess it is easier to re-use/pack an existing DEB package instead of coming up with necessary dependencies of the newest 7.6 which is not yet in Debian (or at least it was not when I started this post).

                        • This reply was modified 7 months ago by sybok.
                        #124436
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                        PPC

                          It takes hours to resync (and check).

                          I’m aware that sometimes a tiny change in a script/program sometimes requires a lot of work!
                          My no means I’m insisting that any of my observations should be implemented, if they are hard to do!- They are mere details (or suggestions for small additions, that we can perfectly live without)
                          Like I mentioned, I nitpick a lot… when it’s something I can try to change myself, I try do so. You already do too much!
                          About my P.I. suggestions- stuff that’s in the repo, like I assume dillo and searchmonkey are, can be simply installed from the second P.I. tab (or using Synaptic, or via apt). P.I, excels in giving easy access to what’s not on the repo, or newer versions of packages that are in the repo- that’s why I mentioned LibreOffice and suggested LocalSend

                          I don’t want to sound like someone that is always complaining that nothing is perfect, sorry if it sounded like that.

                          P.

                          • This reply was modified 7 months ago by PPC.
                          #124478
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                          blur13

                            https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download-libreoffice/
                            ———
                            Download LibreOffice

                            LibreOffice 7.6.3
                            If you’re a technology enthusiast, early adopter or power user, this version is for you!

                            LibreOffice 7.5.8
                            This version is slightly older and does not have the latest features, but it has been tested for longer.
                            ————–

                            Take a wild guess which version fits into the Debian philosophy

                            #124529
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                            PPC

                              I already told here that antiX 23.1 runs great on my crappy netbook, on live mode (it runs faster than the 23 that I have installed on the hard drive- but on this system, Live always runs faster…)
                              I was surprised when I downloaded the binary of the latest seamonkey, uncompressed it to the Live_usb_storage folder and run the binary (I did not install from the repo because I have no presistency set):
                              on a single core ATOM CPU, with 1 GB of shared RAM, and the showest HDD on earth, on that browser, even YouTube runs great, by default, on 480p. I did the usual test – trying to run YouTube on 720p – to my surprise, it’s completely watchable!- That never ever happened on a browser on that netbook. I tried streaming a movie, on a different service, on 720p – once again, after a the usual big waiting period, the movie started playing, even better than the YouTube video I tested- my jaw dropped. It may take a bit more time loading, but now, this crappy device allows me to do what only my more powerful desktop does…. 5 stars

                              Short review of antiX 23.1 on this device – great sound, great video, touch-pad working with the config file I adapted from this thread (note: once I saved the file, even across reboots, without persistency, the touch-pad works perfectly every time). Using seamonkey, this netbook does what modern devices do (it just takes a bit more to load stuff).

                              P.

                              #125030
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                              PPC

                                Yesterday I installed antiX 23.1 on my “new” desktop pc- it runs great, in all my tests (in running some Windows only games using the Heroic game launcher).
                                Sound works great out of the box, system suspends and wakes without losing wi-fi connection.
                                No wi-fi problems at all.
                                Single possible problem – when I give up running a non working game using Heroic (that uses WINE), if I ctrl + alt +del, the system works as expected, except in one thing – pipewire stops working. If I toggle it off and back on, I get sound back.
                                So, one suggestion – if possible to implement, change system so pipewire toggle does not require sudo ALSO, at booting, restart or waking, check if pipewire is running. If so, just to be on the safe side, kill it and restart it…

                                Other that tiny detail, that I cause by forcing the system to try to run windows software via Wine, no problem at all – the system is as steady as a rock! Simply perfect!

                                P.

                                #125031
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                                Brian Masinick

                                  I’ve mentioned a few times that our Connman network manager seems to be more “sensitive” to the stability of the network signal than our other network manager solution, Ceni, but Ceni is significantly slower in making WiFi connections, but it very stable and tolerant of brief disruptions.

                                  I wanted to note this today, because I’m having a different situation; so far today I’ve been running antiX-23.1-runit_x64-full with Connman and if I’ve had any disruptions at all, they have NOT been noticed; this is a solid indication that the sensitivity may be true, but as long as the WiFi signal is reliable, so is Connman. Those who use Ethernet or an unstable network might want to consider Ceni; it’s a trade-off, but in those scenarios, that’s when I’d pick Ceni.

                                  Connman advantages: once you set it up, on subsequent reboots, if configured properly, connection is automatic, so convenience is a plus.

                                  Ceni advantages: reliability; for either Ethernet or WiFi connections, if they are available, Ceni can connect to them.

                                  Connman disadvantages: Connman uses slightly more memory for the daemon process and the control center; if it’s connecting automatically you do not have to bring up CMST, so that makes the difference in memory usage very small. The daemon process *appears* to be the component that is somewhat more sensitive to network stability, so use antix-wifi-switch if you’re having issues and switch between the two solutions.

                                  The good news is that we provide two solid network manager solutions that are nosystemd and are complementary to one another and memory efficient tools.

                                  Ceni disadvantages: Ceni has no automatic configuration; the only way I can think of to automate it would be to create an Expect script that correctly anticipates every interaction and provide an Expect – Send dialogue to automate it. Ceni appears to be significantly slower in recognizing and establishing available connections, so the daemon process used by Connman is helpful in bringing up a stable wireless network quicker and automatically, whereas Ceni is manual and does not provide direct assistance.

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                                  Brian Masinick

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