antiX-23.1 released

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  • #135173
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    Robin

      ls -la /sbin | grep samb gives no output

      anticapitalista, you have stated yourself in your posting right above:

      /sbin is a symlink to /usr/sbin

      Then, how could you expect grep would find something in the output of ls when asking for /sbin, besides the link target itself?

      $ ls -la /sbin
      lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 25. Jan 23:08 /sbin -> usr/sbin

      You’d need to add -L option to the ls command to see the files in the softlinked folder, then you can grep for the file in the output.

      Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

      #135181
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      Brian Masinick

        /sbin is a symlink to /usr/sbin

        So then it is enough to have /sbin in the path to have it accessible, I presume.
        While the path contains both, /sbin and /usr/sbin, when not running from antiX main menu, so it doesn’t make much difference whether the one or the other of the two applies. And this is what I guess what must be fixed in the way antiX main menu starts the control centre script.
        Alternatively there probably could be added a path statement line into control centre head itself (like this was usual in good old MS-DOS autoexec.bat file already, also a batch script), to have the full path available within all programs and scripts started from the control centre entries and running as child processes of it.

        I don’t know what you want to do, if anything, but it’s a one line change if someone wants to add an in-line PATH statement;
        if NOT, users who want to do this on their own can append :/sbin:/usr/sbin to the PATH variable.
        (As for me, I OFTEN alter my PATH environment variable, either adding or removing entries when testing specific features.
        Those who can edit text files or change environment variables –

        This is SUPER easy to add to a shell script, including .bashrc:

        function addpath
        {
            PATH=$PATH:$1
            echo $PATH
        }

        interactively PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin
        changes the path; echo $PATH verifies the current value of PATH.

        If you do it interactively, it will not REMAIN across terminal emulation access.
        If you add either a function or save your PATH, for example:
        export PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin
        in your .bashrc, this will be set every time you open your shell.

        If you move to another environment and you can determine WHAT is altering your
        PATH, change that resource file and you solve that problem as well.

        When you are operating in privileged accounts, be careful; best to always
        save a copy of everything somewhere; one day you’ll make a silly mistake and
        be GLAD that you can recover from the silly mistake – it may be construed
        with less favor if you do not take proper precautions when you do not back
        up important information!

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        #135189
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        Robin

          I don’t know what you want to do, if anything

          The issue is, that when control centre is started from antiX main menu, the path set in system is dishonoured, but cut by the two entries /sbin and /usr/sbin.
          That’s all the trouble. And this is something which can’t be fixed by the user, I guess. Since the path in system is already set up including /sbin and /usr/sbin as you can inspect when using ctrl+alt+F2, then login on tty directly and check the original path on antiX 23.1 final. What could a user add more than this, and where?
          The /sbin and /usr/sbin part of the original path must have been removed when mangling it through the main menu. And that is what should not happen.

          Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

          #135195
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          Brian Masinick

            I don’t know what you want to do, if anything

            The issue is, that when control centre is started from antiX main menu, the path set in system is dishonoured, but cut by the two entries /sbin and /usr/sbin.
            That’s all the trouble. And this is something which can’t be fixed by the user, I guess. Since the path in system is already set up including /sbin and /usr/sbin as you can inspect when using ctrl+alt+F2, then login on tty directly and check the original path on antiX 23.1 final. What could a user add more than this, and where?
            The /sbin and /usr/sbin part of the original path must have been removed when mangling it through the main menu. And that is what should not happen.

            Maybe you should consider “forking” the antiX Control Centre and adding the PATH entries you want to the tool and see if it works.
            If it does, then make the code available to whoever wants to use it. Sometimes that’s how new projects are started.

            It doesn’t SEEM like a big change, BUT I don’t actually know because I have NOT looked directly at the code myself.
            It may end up being simple or it may end up being more trouble than it’s worth.

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            #135197
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            Robin

              pt-pt … includes stuff that is not there

              @PPC You simply don’t know you have them available. This is why you are urgently in need of such a map obviously 🙂 . Joking apart, I just have checked out the Portuguese default keyboard (no variant) antiX comes with. Result: All keys work precisely as displayed in the layout map:

              \|¬¬
              1!¹¡
              2"@⅛
              3#££
              4$§$
              5%½⅜
              6&¬⅝
              7/{⅞
              8([™
              9)]±
              0=}°
              '?\¿
              «»¸˛ (the last two are dead keys, you need to key in a blank after them to see them.)
              qQ@Ω
              wWſ§
              eE€¢
              rR¶®
              tTŧŦ
              yY←¥
              uU↓↑
              iI→ı
              oOøØ
              pPþÞ
              +*"° (the last two are dead keys, you need to key in a blank after them to see them.)
              aAæÆ
              sSßẞ
              dDðÐ
              fFđª
              gGŋŊ
              hHħĦ
              jJủư (the last two are dead keys, you need to key in another character after them to see them.)
              kKĸ&
              lLłŁ
              çÇ'˝ (the last two are dead keys, you need to key in a blank after them to see them.)
              ºª^ˇ (the last two are dead keys, you need to key in a blank after them to see them.)
              ~^'˘ (all of them are dead keys, you need to key in a blank after them to see them.)
              <>\\
              zZ«<
              xX»>
              c¢¢©
              vV„‚
              bB“‘
              nN”’
              mMµº
              ,;•×
              .:·÷
              -_̣ ˙ (the last two are dead keys, you need to key in a blank after them to see them.)
              

              For accessing layer 1 just press the key.
              For accessing layer 2, use the shift key as usual.
              For accessing layer 3, hold down the altgr key (marked as layer3 in the layout map) while pressing the key.
              For accessing layer 4, hold down the altgr AND the shift key while pressing the key.
              For dead keys you need either to key in a blank immediately afterwards, or another character, otherwise nothing happens.
              That’s why these are called dead. The ̉j key even expects two additional keys being pressed afterwards, no idea why or what this special mark means in Portuguese.

              if possible, remove the mention “dead”, that does nothing, just hides the main character present on that key (in pt-pt that happens in the letter “J”.

              No clue why this shows up in Portuguese, in other languages the dead keys are not labled this way, and also in Portuguese this is the single dead key which is marked that way. Sorry, I can’t do anything about this, maybe you could ask the maintainers of the library (libgnomekbd) engaged? → (Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>)

              Some more layout maps attached, so you can see what it looks like in other languages. All keys work in the languages tested, precisely as shown in the maps. That’s the gist of making these maps available. Most people don’t know they can use these keys in third and fourth level out of the box in antiX.

              like, in pt-pt, “C” includes stuff that is not there

              I fail to see how C could be selected from the keyboard management present in antiX control centre. For me there is no entry reading “C”.

              Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

              #135202
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              Robin

                make the code available to whoever wants to use it.

                That’s not the point, Brian. Some tools in antiX control centre fail currently in antiX 23.1 final, even with most current bugfixes. And what I’m talking about is simply one of these bugfixes needed, to make control centre work smoothly for antiX users, not merely for some specialists who know how to deal with this kind of issues when they run into them while starting antiX control centre tools, expecting people to look up the bug listing and proposed methods for fixing here in forum. This must be fixed in a way the fix can be distributed by a simple package update average user receives when updating his system.

                Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

                #135212
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                Stéphane Ascoët

                  @Robin – the GUI to display the current keyboard layout is pure genius, and something I though a few times that antiX needed, despite not being essential.

                  Yeah, we used to search for one in my local LUG to help someone who had put a far much too strange character in it and didn’t know how to type it again. Finally the leader of the group showed us a great trick with keyboard that I forgot since then(I’ve written it, but where?)

                  #135213
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                  Robin

                    a great trick with keyboard

                    Possibly it was ctrl+shift+u, followed by the ‹unicode-entity›, then ctrl+shift again? That allows you to key in any unicode sign you can think of.
                    Endless listings for valid unicode entities here. That’s what I constantly use. You’ll have to click open the sub listings on that site to see the actual entity numbers. (These are hex values, so the range is from 0 to F instead of 0 to 9 merely)

                    Example:
                    ctrl+shift+u 0807 ctrl+shift makes ࠇ (that's Samaritan randomly chosen)

                    Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

                    #135294
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                    anticapitalista

                      While testing antix 23.1 in pt-br I noticed that the new CC localization (that fix the huge gap that is displayed between the tabs and the buttons, because of an “/” added to that localization) was not used (no problem, sooner or later, when CC is updated, it will carry the new localization file and fix that)

                      Where is that fix?

                      Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                      antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                      #135298
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                      Robin

                        it will carry the new localization file and fix that

                        @anticapitalista: Not sure what @PPC is talking about, but I guess this is something concerning the pt localisation, so the fix was probably done at transifex. At least I have not noticed something unusual in CC display itself.

                        Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

                        #135300
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                        marcelocripe

                          Where is that fix?

                          and

                          @anticapitalista: Not sure what @PPC is talking about, but I guess this is something concerning the pt_PT localisation, so the fix was probably done at transifex. At least I have not noticed something unusual in CC display itself.

                          According to what PPC had explained to me, the problem with the broken appearance in the Control Center window occurs because of the translation of the entry https://app.transifex.com/anticapitalista/antix-development/translate/#pt_BR/antixcc/1987925?q=text%3Awal.

                          “Choose Wallpaper”
                          I had translated it to “Papel de Parede / Imagem de Fundo”, it seems that the ” / ” slash was breaking the appearance in the Control Center window. 22 days ago I changed it to “Wallpaper or Background Image”, where I replaced the slash “/” with the word “or” (ou). Then, when the new translation file is used in the Control Center package, the “pt_BR” version should no longer take up the entire screen. What catches my attention is that there are other bars in other texts in English and also in the translation, but they do not break the appearance in the Control Center window.

                          – – – – –

                          Where is that fix?

                          e

                          @anticapitalista: Not sure what @PPC is talking about, but I guess this is something concerning the pt_PT localisation, so the fix was probably done at transifex. At least I have not noticed something unusual in CC display itself.

                          Segundo o que o PPC havia me explicado, o problema da quebra da aparência na janela do Centro de Controle ocorre por causa da tradução da entrada https://app.transifex.com/anticapitalista/antix-development/translate/#pt_BR/antixcc/1987925?q=text%3Awal.

                          “Choose Wallpaper”
                          Eu havia traduzido para “Papel de Parede / Imagem de Fundo”, ao que parece a barra ” / ” fazia a quebra da aparência na janela do Centro de Controle. Há 22 dias atrás eu alterei para “Papel de Parede ou Imagem de Fundo”, onde substituí a barra ” / ” pela palavra “ou”. Então, quando o novo arquivo de tradução for utilizado no pacote do Centro de Controle, a versão “pt_BR” não deverá ocupar mais a tela toda. O que me chama a atenção, é que existem outras barras em outros textos em idioma Inglês e também na tradução, mas não quebram a aparência na janela do Centro de Controle.

                          #135459
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                          PPC

                            Latest updates, today included antiX Control Centre
                            -The samba shares icon in CC is now missing
                            -The problem reported by Robin, that samba manager only works properly if cc is run from the terminal still stands. Even if run from the terminal, if I launch samba manager from aCC, I find no obvious way to mount shares. If I list the shares in the main window and click their entries, nothing happens.
                            @Robin – Possible work around: launching samba manager in control centre fires up a terminal window that launches samba manager’s script and then kills itself. Not the ideal solution, but it that works… it allows users to use Samba from aCC
                            -Control centre icon, once fixed went missing and never came back 🙁

                            -IceWM Control Centre still does not include the localization (at least the pt-pt one) of that string on the top of the window, warning users to click an option if it fails to work in the first click…

                            Other than that… Except for what I reported above and the partly missing pt-pt zzzfm localization, antiX 23.1 is looking great!

                            P.

                            #135461
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                            anticapitalista

                              New control centre and antix-samba-manager should hit repos soon

                              Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                              antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                              #135462
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                              anticapitalista

                                I have the latest control centre mo from @marcelocripe , but it does not solve the localisation issue of the control centre.
                                It must be something other than use of /
                                Other languages using / have no issues.
                                In fact pt_BR uses / in the IceWM control centre – no issues like we see with the control centre.

                                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                                #135463
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                                Robin

                                  I find no obvious way to mount shares. If I list the shares in the main window and click their entries, nothing happens.

                                  antiX Mount Manager - Main window

                                  @PPC What keeps you from clicking the Mount another one button (see screenshot above) ? Hopefully not another bug only present for some reason when not running on my own devices…

                                  And when clicking, DOUBLE-clicking btw, the entries in this mount manager main window, a popup with detailed information about the clicked share is expected to come up. Doesn’t this work for you either?

                                  For removing a share, click the Unmount ticked button after having checked the tickbox at line start of all shares you want to have unmounted.

                                  Btw, don’t all the tooltips work on the buttons?

                                  Windows is like a submarine. Open a window and serious problems will start.

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