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  • #98808
    Moderator
    Brian Masinick

      @masinick

      Do the *default* antiX 4.19/5.10 kernels on antiX-23 alpha (live or installed) show any marked differences from antiX-22 or earlier?
      I’m certain and if I understand your tests correctly that a 6 series kernel on *any* antiX will have higher RAM usage. – please confirm – thanks

      Both the 5 and 6 series kernels on antiX 22 used fewer resources than any of the scenarios I ran with either the 4 or 5 series kernels for antiX 23 so the overhead is not coming from the kernels, it’s coming from the method used in the Alpha build.

      The xanmod1 6.1.9 kernel I used on antiX 22 unexpectedly used fewer resources on the Dell than it did on either of the test kernels.

      --
      Brian Masinick

      #98810
      Member
      olsztyn

        We are indeed using more memory in this version – straight from boot, on my Dell I’m using

        $ free -h
        total used free shared buff/cache available
        Mem: 7.7Gi 457Mi 6.9Gi 52Mi 611Mi 7.3Gi
        Swap: 8.0Gi 0B 8.0Gi
        demo@antix1:~

        I want to confirm Brian’s observation on much higher (almost 290M more) memory used reported by ‘free -h’ on freshly booted antiX 23 vs. antiX 22 runit.
        I do not know what this really means for using ‘free -h’ as memory footprint measurement however and why it shows that much higher under antiX 23, because measuring footprint using Lxtask both antiX 22 and antiX 23 are very much comparable, where antiX 23 appears just slightly higher, by just a few Mb than antiX 22.
        Just to note, a similarly much higher memory footprint is reported by ‘free -h’ on antiX/Bookworm/SID than on antiX 22. So I am not sure if so much higher memory footprint reported by ‘free -h’ is to be taken for the face value.
        My testing is on Thinkpad T410, i5, 6Mb. Tested with kernel 5.10.

        What I do notice – an additional process at-spi-bus-launcher seems to be running by default in antiX 23, which takes over 7Mb. I am not sure yet of the purpose of this process in antiX 23, especially because I do not see this process running in antiX/Bookworm.SID.

        Aside from my above memory footprint observation:
        – antiX 23 seems a head turner now, with the new wallpaper. Excellent. Huge initial impression.
        – JWM default theme seems nicer than before, I think.
        – No issues in operation so far…

        • This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by olsztyn.

        Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
        http://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

        #98822
        Member
        Xunzi_23

          Sorry unable to join the party, not yet anyway.

          green screen on both old and new kernel, never seen that before,

          normal is only happens the antiX latest version. I use Kernel: 5.18.0-4-amd64 arch: x86_64 from debian,
          the legacy kernel has booted fine up to this time.
          The ISO sha256 sum is checked, usb stick was booting stable version until I rewrote this morning.
          Stick was formatted after getting greenout. No errors from antiX usb write utility.
          Screen messages and system Info attached.

          System runs fine, no high temeratures or other reported issues.

          #98826
          Member
          PPC

            On my home computer- Ram after booting into zzz-icewm:
            Conky: 178M/3.81G
            “free -h” in the terminal: 381Mi
            Task manager: 160/3.90

            CPU: 0% when idle
            1% running zzzfm and firefox-esr showing only the forum (RAM: conky: 605; free -h: 874Mi; task-manager: 587MB

            I tested opening several .odt documents and one .pdf file using zzzfm- it worked perfectly and lightning fast, even in live mode… Writer launches in less than 3 seconds!

            Edit: I’m using wi-fi via an USB dongle: no network problems to report, for now.
            Edit2: I installed Ft10 on it- it runs fine, but, for some reason a few menu entries come up twice (the second one without icon and does not run anything: “Bluetooth” and “Add items to menu”, “app-select” and “adsl/ppp…”)
            P.

            • This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by PPC.
            • This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by PPC.
            #98836
            Member
            calciumsodium

              A comparison of memory at baseline of antiX21 and antiX23 a1 on the same computer. I tried to make both systems as similar to each other as possible: wallpaper, startup, etc.

              For antiX21:

              $ free -h
                             total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
              Mem:           2.4Gi       145Mi       2.0Gi        66Mi       240Mi       2.1Gi
              Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
              jakersfan@antix1:~
              $ inxi -b
              System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1-8.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 
                         Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 

              For antiX23a1:

              $ free -h
                             total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
              Mem:           2.4Gi       379Mi       1.9Gi        69Mi       310Mi       2.0Gi
              Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
              jakersfan@antix1:~
              $ inxi -b
              System:
                Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1.9-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
                  Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
                  Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023

              The difference is about 234 Mb of used ram at baseline.

              #98837
              Forum Admin
              anticapitalista

                Posting output of sudo ps_mem.py would help to see what is taking up all that extra RAM.
                I suspect Xorg.

                Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                #98838
                Member
                PPC

                  sudo ps_mem.py

                  In my OS, this reports:

                  sudo ps_mem.py
                   Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                  112.0 KiB +  21.5 KiB = 133.5 KiB	runit
                  128.0 KiB +  24.5 KiB = 152.5 KiB	runsvdir
                  148.0 KiB +  29.5 KiB = 177.5 KiB	svlogd
                  148.0 KiB +  34.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	seatd
                  372.0 KiB + 113.5 KiB = 485.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                  356.0 KiB + 298.5 KiB = 654.5 KiB	udevil
                  364.0 KiB + 291.5 KiB = 655.5 KiB	icewm-session
                  800.0 KiB + 432.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	desktop-session
                  824.0 KiB + 431.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	devmon
                    1.1 MiB + 355.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	runsv (12)
                  968.0 KiB + 584.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	getty (7)
                  904.0 KiB + 672.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	dbus-daemon (3)
                    1.0 MiB + 812.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	sudo (2)
                    1.6 MiB + 462.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	bash
                    1.4 MiB + 800.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
                    1.8 MiB + 653.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udevd
                    2.2 MiB + 672.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	conky
                    3.6 MiB + 259.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB	connmand
                    2.5 MiB +   2.4 MiB =   4.8 MiB	fbxkb
                    3.3 MiB +   2.9 MiB =   6.2 MiB	volumeicon
                    4.8 MiB +   1.4 MiB =   6.3 MiB	slimski
                    5.3 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   7.6 MiB	icewm
                    7.2 MiB + 645.5 KiB =   7.8 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                   11.1 MiB +   4.5 MiB =  15.6 MiB	zzzfm
                   12.2 MiB +   4.8 MiB =  17.0 MiB	roxterm
                   82.5 MiB +   2.0 MiB =  84.5 MiB	Xorg
                  ---------------------------------
                                          174.3 MiB

                  I think that “free -h” is reporting the wrong value, for some reason???

                  #98844
                  Member
                  marcelocripe

                    Hello.
                    Olá.

                    ISO: antiX-23-alpha1-runit_x64-full.iso

                    System:
                    Kernel: 5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
                    v: 12.2.0 Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
                    Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
                    base: Debian GNU/Linux bookworm/sid
                    Machine:
                    Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP G42 NoteBook PC
                    v: 049D110000202710000010000 serial: <superuser required>
                    Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 1484 v: 77.36 serial: <superuser required>
                    BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: F.31 date: 10/18/2010
                    Battery:
                    ID-1: BAT0 charge: 27.3 Wh (96.5%) condition: 28.3/47.5 Wh (59.6%)
                    volts: 12.4 min: 10.8 model: Hewlett-Packard Primary status: N/A
                    CPU:
                    Info: dual core model: Pentium T4500 bits: 64 type: MCP
                    arch: Penryn Yorkfield rev: A cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
                    Speed (MHz): avg: 2255 high: 2256 min/max: 1200/2300 cores: 1: 2256
                    2: 2255 bogomips: 9177
                    Flags: ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 ssse3
                    Graphics:
                    Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen5 bus-ID: 00:02.0
                    Device-2: Suyin HP Webcam-101 type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus-ID: 2-4:3
                    Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.6 driver: X: loaded: intel gpu: i915
                    resolution: 1366×768~60Hz
                    OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Mobile Intel GM45 Express (CTG) v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.3
                    direct render: Yes
                    Audio:
                    Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0
                    Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.142-antix.2-amd64-smp running: yes
                    Network:
                    Device-1: Realtek RTL8191SEvA Wireless LAN vendor: Hewlett-Packard
                    driver: rtl8192se v: kernel port: 3000 bus-ID: 02:00.0
                    IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter>
                    Device-2: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet
                    vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0
                    IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
                    Info:
                    Processes: 141 Uptime: 3m Memory: 3.74 GiB used: 448.4 MiB (11.7%)
                    Init: runit runlevel: 2 Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 Packages: 1625 Shell: Bash
                    v: 5.2.15 inxi: 3.3.19

                    demo@antix1:~
                    $ free -m
                    total usada livre compart. buff/cache disponível
                    Mem.: 3832 420 3118 53 562 3412
                    Swap: 0 0 0
                    demo@antix1:~
                    $

                    Conky displayed 181MB of RAM with no other windows open.
                    O Conky exibia 181 MB de memória RAM sem nenhuma outra janela aberta.

                    #98846
                    Member
                    calciumsodium

                      Here are my updated numbers with conky + free -h + ps_mem.py:

                      antiX 21: Conky at baseline 165 Mb of RAM.

                      $ free -h
                                     total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                      Mem:           2.4Gi       172Mi       2.0Gi        66Mi       240Mi       2.0Gi
                      Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
                      jakersfan@antix1:~
                      $ sudo ps_mem.py
                      [sudo] password for jakersfan: 
                       Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                      184.0 KiB +  43.5 KiB = 227.5 KiB	acpid
                      196.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 243.5 KiB	anacron
                      212.0 KiB +  37.5 KiB = 249.5 KiB	gpm
                      216.0 KiB +  61.5 KiB = 277.5 KiB	init
                      312.0 KiB +  80.5 KiB = 392.5 KiB	cron
                      364.0 KiB + 142.5 KiB = 506.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                      472.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 508.5 KiB	rpc.idmapd
                      440.0 KiB + 119.5 KiB = 559.5 KiB	rpc.statd
                      512.0 KiB + 170.5 KiB = 682.5 KiB	rpcbind
                      364.0 KiB + 340.5 KiB = 704.5 KiB	udevil
                      352.0 KiB + 354.5 KiB = 706.5 KiB	icewm-session
                      640.0 KiB + 440.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	devmon
                      804.0 KiB + 433.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	desktop-session
                      724.0 KiB + 583.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	redshift
                      856.0 KiB + 536.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	getty (6)
                      748.0 KiB + 672.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
                        1.6 MiB +  40.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	smartd
                        1.4 MiB + 319.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	ntpd
                        1.7 MiB +  88.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	elogind-daemon
                        1.5 MiB + 337.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	connmand
                        1.4 MiB + 471.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	bash
                        1.8 MiB +  53.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	rsyslogd
                        1.4 MiB + 511.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	sudo
                        2.6 MiB + 447.5 KiB =   3.0 MiB	udevd
                        3.2 MiB +  27.5 KiB =   3.2 MiB	haveged
                        3.8 MiB + 955.5 KiB =   4.7 MiB	conky
                        4.9 MiB + 617.5 KiB =   5.5 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                        5.3 MiB +   2.6 MiB =   7.8 MiB	icewm
                        4.4 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   7.9 MiB	volumeicon
                        7.4 MiB +   1.0 MiB =   8.4 MiB	slimski
                        9.8 MiB +   5.3 MiB =  15.1 MiB	roxterm
                       17.3 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  18.9 MiB	Xorg
                       21.8 MiB +   3.8 MiB =  25.7 MiB	rox
                      ---------------------------------
                                              124.2 MiB
                      =================================
                      jakersfan@antix1:~
                      $ inxi -b
                      System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1-8.1-liquorix-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: IceWM 2.8.0 
                                 Distro: antiX-21_x64-base Grup Yorum 31 October 2021 
                      

                      antiX 23 a1: Conky at baseline 182 Mb of RAM.

                      $ free -h
                                     total        used        free      shared  buff/cache   available
                      Mem:           2.4Gi       356Mi       2.0Gi        65Mi       306Mi       2.1Gi
                      Swap:          2.0Gi          0B       2.0Gi
                      jakersfan@antix1:~
                      $ sudo ps_mem.py
                      [sudo] password for jakersfan: 
                       Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                      112.0 KiB +  20.5 KiB = 132.5 KiB	runit
                      132.0 KiB +  25.5 KiB = 157.5 KiB	runsvdir
                      148.0 KiB +  34.5 KiB = 182.5 KiB	svlogd
                      148.0 KiB +  36.5 KiB = 184.5 KiB	seatd
                      328.0 KiB + 147.5 KiB = 475.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                      364.0 KiB + 284.5 KiB = 648.5 KiB	icewm-session
                      364.0 KiB + 319.5 KiB = 683.5 KiB	udevil
                      644.0 KiB + 419.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	devmon
                      692.0 KiB + 447.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
                      808.0 KiB + 425.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	desktop-session
                      740.0 KiB + 508.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	redshift
                        1.1 MiB + 379.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	runsv (12)
                      952.0 KiB + 609.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	getty (7)
                      944.0 KiB + 815.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	sudo (2)
                        1.5 MiB + 463.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	bash
                        1.7 MiB + 649.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	udevd
                        2.2 MiB + 602.5 KiB =   2.8 MiB	conky
                        3.6 MiB + 291.5 KiB =   3.9 MiB	connmand
                        6.9 MiB + 638.5 KiB =   7.6 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                        5.9 MiB +   2.4 MiB =   8.2 MiB	icewm
                        5.1 MiB +   3.3 MiB =   8.5 MiB	volumeicon
                        7.4 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   8.9 MiB	slimski
                       11.4 MiB +   5.4 MiB =  16.8 MiB	roxterm
                       22.4 MiB +   4.1 MiB =  26.5 MiB	rox
                       61.4 MiB +   1.9 MiB =  63.3 MiB	Xorg
                      ---------------------------------
                                              162.5 MiB
                      =================================
                      jakersfan@antix1:~
                      $ inxi -b
                      System:
                        Host: antix1 Kernel: 6.1.9-2-liquorix-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
                          Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.1
                          Distro: antiX-23-runit_x64-full Grup Yorum 3 February 2023
                      

                      The RAM difference in Conky and ps_mem.py are not as dramatic as in the free -h method.

                      #98847
                      Forum Admin
                      anticapitalista

                        So Xorg RAM used accounts for the difference. (almost 45MB more!)

                        Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

                        antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.

                        #98849
                        Moderator
                        Brian Masinick

                          Good finding. Regardless of the memory consumption my Dell Inspiron 5558 has plentiful memory and the Alpha build, even with the minor issues is a first rate Alpha build.

                          I challenge anyone to find more reliable builds than those in our family of distributions. Both antiX and MX Linux have a long history of reliable software and the first builds are quite usable.

                          I will check ps_mem.py next time I run the image. Meanwhile I trust the data and the explanation just provided. It makes sense to me.

                          --
                          Brian Masinick

                          #98852
                          Member
                          Xunzi_23

                            Was now able to run on a T420, same stick, no problems at all with either kernel.
                            Will have to switch to rox as my preference.

                            Really like the look with new wallpaper, now need some flash icons to match :-).

                            No way found to boot the beta on my desktop setup, as always freezing or crashing
                            with the reported green screen. Everything unresponsive so unsure what happens.
                            Busy but can try some boot codes from BitJam tomorrow and hope to get some sensible
                            output for fault finding..

                            Will try and test on another couple of desktop setups tomorrow, recently I ran in to
                            same green screen crash on one of those. Similar setup to mine, I5 and Nvidia card
                            gigabyte board.

                            • This reply was modified 1 year, 2 months ago by Xunzi_23.
                            #98854
                            Member
                            marcelocripe

                              The ISO boot “antiX-23-alpha1-runit_x64-full.iso” took place on a USB device prepared with Ventoy, this is just a live boot.

                              The F1 option is now next to the F2 option in the antiX ISO boot and this is great, before the F1 option was not visible.

                              Now I want to make some suggestions:

                              1 – Place the “Unplug Removable Device” icon (original text in English to avoid any misunderstanding) at the far left, as it was always further to the left in previous editions of antiX. Please, don’t answer me so I can use “IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager” to organize it as I’m suggesting.

                              My suggestion:

                              prog “Unplug Removable Device” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/devices/drive-removable-media-usb.png unplugdrive.sh
                              prog “antiX Updater” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/categories/software-sources.png /usr/local/bin/yad-updater
                              prog “Software Installer” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/apps/packageinstaller.png su-to-root -X -c packageinstaller
                              prog “File Manager” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/apps/file-manager.png desktop-defaults-run -fm
                              prog “Web Browser” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/apps/web-browser.png desktop-defaults-run -b
                              prog “IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/categories/icewm_editor.png /usr/local/bin/icewm-toolbar-icon-manager.sh

                              2 – I thank you for correcting the “pt_BR” identifier in the “/usr/share/antiX/localisation” folder.

                              3 – The file “refresh-menu.desktop.desktop” continues with the entry like this “Exec=desktop-menu –write-out-global”, by chance it should be with “sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global ” for the menu to work?

                              4 – Now I’m going to look at the menus and compare with antiX 21/22.

                              “antiX” submenu: All menus are translated to “pt_BR”, except “locale-antix-user.desktop” and “locale-antix-system.desktop”. Please use the translated .desktop files on GitLab (http://gitlab.com/antix-contribs/antix-desktop-files/-/tree/main/.desktop).
                              “Accessories” submenu: They will only be 100% translated to “pt_BR” when all our translated .desktop files are used by the creators of the respective programs. I’ve already found out that this will be impossible, because many developers don’t care about translations or have refused to use our translations. For example, the creators of Firejail, Celluloid, MPV, DeSmuMe, etc. If any of the programs that are in the antiX full ISO are maintained by the antiX development team and are on this list of menus that need to be translated, please use our translations.
                              “Development” submenu: Only Geany needs to be translated.
                              “Graphics” submenu: It remains to be translated to “pt_BR” – “Gtkam Digital Camera Browser”, “Mirage” and “LibreOffice Draw” (the latter is an “impossible mission”).
                              “Internet” submenu: Still need to be translated to “pt_BR” – “Ceni”, “Claws Mail”, “Dillo”, “Firefox ESR”, “HexChat”, “Links 2”, “Modem Manager GUI”, “Sakis3G” and “Transmission”.
                              “Games” submenu: Still need to be translated to “pt_BR” – “DOSBox Emulator” and “Mahjongg”.
                              Submenu “Multimídia”: Need to be translated to “pt_BR” – “Asunder CD Ripper”, “Celluloid” (I already explained the reason above), “SMTube”, “WinFF” (this project is unfortunately abandoned and therefore will never be merged with our translations) and “XMMS”.
                              “Preferences” submenu: Still need to be translated to “pt_BR” – “Bluetooth Manager”, “Screenlight” and “User Language”. The “blueman-manager.desktop” and “User Language” files are an old version and it is not the file that was used in antiX 22, please compare with our GitLab file or the file used in antiX 22.
                              “System” submenu: It remains to be translated to “pt_BR” – “Firetools” (I already explained the reason above), “Modem Manager GUI” and “ROXTerm”.

                              5 – I missed having a “trash.desktop”, without it the zzzFM right-click menu won’t have the translations. Trash-related translations could be in the “trash.desktop” file.

                              6 – On the zzzFM right-click menu, I suggest changing the position of the “Delete (Shitf + Delete)” option to be below the “Send to Trash” option (this menu is not translated to “pt_US”) . I believe it is safer to have the “Send to Trash (Delete)” option below the Rename option (F2).

                              Rename (F2)
                              Send to Trash (Delete)
                              Delete (Shift+Delete)

                              As soon as possible, I will boot the ISO “antiX-23-alpha1-runit_x64-full.iso” on computers older than the one I posted in my previous message.

                              – – – – –

                              A inicialização da ISO “antiX-23-alpha1-runit_x64-full.iso” ocorreu em um dispositivo USB preparado com o Ventoy, trata-se apenas uma inicialização ao vivo.

                              A opção F1 agora está ao lado da opção F2 na inicialização da ISO do antiX e isso é muito bom, antes a opção F1 não estava visível.

                              Agora eu pretendo apresentar algumas sugestões:

                              1 – Posicionar o ícone do “Unplug Removable Device” (texto original em Inglês para evitar qualquer mal entendido) na extremidade da esquerda, pois ele sempre esteve mais a esquerda nas edições anteriores do antiX. Por favor, não me respondam para eu utilizar o “IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager” para deixar organizado como eu estou sugerindo.

                              A minha sugestão:

                              prog “Unplug Removable Device” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/devices/drive-removable-media-usb.png unplugdrive.sh
                              prog “antiX Updater” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/categories/software-sources.png /usr/local/bin/yad-updater
                              prog “Software Installer” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/apps/packageinstaller.png su-to-root -X -c packageinstaller
                              prog “File Manager” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/apps/file-manager.png desktop-defaults-run -fm
                              prog “Web Browser” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/apps/web-browser.png desktop-defaults-run -b
                              prog “IceWM Toolbar Icon Manager” /usr/share/icons/papirus-antix/48×48/categories/icewm_editor.png /usr/local/bin/icewm-toolbar-icon-manager.sh

                              2 – Eu agradeço por você corrigir o identificador “pt_BR” na pasta “/usr/share/antiX/localisation”.

                              3 – O arquivo “refresh-menu.desktop.desktop” continua com a entrada assim “Exec=desktop-menu –write-out-global”, por acaso deveria ser com “sudo desktop-menu –write-out-global” para o menu funcionar?

                              4 – Agora eu vou olhar para os menus e comparar com o antiX 21/22.

                              Submenu “antiX”: Todos os menus estão traduzidos para “pt_BR”, exceto “locale-antix-user.desktop” e “locale-antix-system.desktop”. Por favor, utilize os arquivos .desktop traduzidos no GitLab (http://gitlab.com/antix-contribs/antix-desktop-files/-/tree/main/.desktop).
                              Submenu “Acessórios”: Só ficarão 100% traduzidos para “pt_BR” quando todos os nossos arquivos .desktop traduzidos forem utilizados pelos criadores dos respectivos programas. Eu já descobri que isso será impossível, porque vários desenvolvedores não dão a mínima para as traduções ou se recusaram a utilizar as nossas traduções. Por exemplo, os criadores do Firejail, Celluloid, MPV, DeSmuMe, etc. Se algum dos programas que estão na ISO full do antiX for mantido pela equipe de desenvolvimento do antiX estiver neste relação dos menus que faltam ser traduzidos, por favor, utilize as nossas traduções.
                              Submenu “Desenvolvimento”: Só falta o Geany ser traduzido.
                              Submenu “Gráficos”: Faltam ser traduzidos para “pt_BR” – “Gtkam Digital Camera Browser”, “Mirage” e “LibreOffice Draw” (este último trata-se de uma “missão impossível”).
                              Submenu “Internet”: Faltam ser traduzidos para “pt_BR” – “Ceni”, “Claws Mail”, “Dillo”, “Firefox ESR”, “HexChat”, “Links 2”, “Modem Manager GUI”, “Sakis3G” e “Transmission”.
                              Submenu “Jogos”: Faltam ser traduzidos para “pt_BR” – “DOSBox Emulator” e “Mahjongg”.
                              Submenu “Multimídia”: Faltam ser traduzidos para “pt_BR” – “Asunder CD Ripper”, “Celluloid” (eu já expliquei acima o motivo), “SMTube”, “WinFF” (este projeto infelizmente está abandonado e por isso nunca será mesclado com as nossas traduções) e “XMMS”.
                              Submenu “Preferências”: Faltam ser traduzidos para “pt_BR” – “Bluetooth Manager”, “Screenlight” e “User Language”. Os arquivos “blueman-manager.desktop” e “User Language” são uma versão antiga e não é o arquivo que foi utilizado no antiX 22, por favor, compare com o nosso arquivo do GitLab ou com o arquivo utilizado no antiX 22.
                              Submenu “Sistema”: Faltam ser traduzidos para “pt_BR” – “Firetools” (eu já expliquei acima o motivo), “Modem Manager GUI” e “ROXTerm”.

                              5 – Eu senti falta de ter um “trash.desktop”, sem ele o menu do clique com o botão direito do zzzFM não terá as traduções. As traduções relacionadas a Lixeira poderiam estar no arquivo “trash.desktop”.

                              6 – Sobre o menu do clique com o botão direito do zzzFM, eu sugiro alterar a posição da opção “Excluir (Shitf + Delete)” para ficar abaixo da opção “Send to Trash” (este menu não está traduzido para “pt_BR”). Eu acredito ser mais seguro a opção “Send to Trash (Delete)” ficar abaixo da opção Renomear (F2).

                              Renamear (F2)
                              Send to Trash (Delete)
                              Excluir (Shitf + Delete)

                              Assim que for possível, eu irei inicializar a ISO “antiX-23-alpha1-runit_x64-full.iso” em computadores mais antigos que este que eu postei na minha mensagem anterior.

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                              marcelocripe

                                I just verified that zzzFM was unable to mount the hard disk partition with user “demo”. The partition is of type ext4 and has antiX 22 installed. Normally we can mount ext4 partitions with the regular user without the need for root. This appears to be a problem.

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                                Eu acabei de verificar que o zzzFM não conseguiu montar a partição do disco rígido com o usuário “demo”. A partição é do tipo ext4 e possui o antiX 22 instalado. Normalmente nós conseguimos montar as partições ext4 com o usuário comum sem a necessidade do root. Isso parece ser um problema.

                                #98857
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                                marcelocripe

                                  About the kernel, my suggestion is not to use the terms “Modern Kernel” or “Legacy Kernel”, I think it’s better to display the kernel version number. The concept “Legacy” or “Modern” is very relative and is not consistent, the number still presents the accuracy of the information.
                                  As for the version that will be used, I don’t have enough technical knowledge to make suggestions about it.

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                                  Sobre o kernel, a minha sugestão não é utilizar o termos “Kernel Moderno” ou “Kernel Legado”, eu acho melhor que seja exibido o número da versão do kernel. O conceito “Legado” ou “Moderno” é muito relativo e não é consistente, o número ainda apresenta a exatidão na informação.
                                  Quanto a versão que será utilziada, eu não tenho conhecimentos técnicos suficientes para apresentar sugestões a respeito disso.

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