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stevesr0
To caprea,
I am a very a dull permanent noobie indeed. I “ASS”umed that what I needed to make Pipewire work on my cobbled together minimistic Sid install would be required by this full alpha engineered by anticapitalista!
Once I read your message,
I went back to the directions by Xecure (following the Debian wiki) and reproduced that in my /home/demo/.desktop-sessions/startup file. (Including a “sleep 2” time after pipewire before wireplumber. Then pipewire-pulse. I threw in an lxterminal without a following & to avoid the session closing if pipewire closed. (This is all written up in the threads “Pipewire for antix 21” and “Pipewire without systemdd”.) Then I ran the .desktop-session/startup from the terminal and voila, pipewire and pavucontrol worked.
After an apt update and full-upgrade, all the needed pipewire, libpipewire, libspa, wireplumber, and gstreamer packages were available for installation.
Specifically, this is running after I removed libelogind0.
So, Thank you much caprea.
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To olsztyn,
I haven’t used pipewire bluetooth. I just looked and saw that pipewire-audio is the package that supports bluetooth. Supposed to work automagically via wireplumber. I just installed it but it didn’t automatically work. sorry. Here is a link to a page on Bluetooth configuration for Pipewire: https://pipewire.pages.freedesktop.org/wireplumber/configuration/bluetooth.html It is beyond my “paygrade” <g>.
stevesr0
- This reply was modified 3 months ago by stevesr0.
- This reply was modified 3 months ago by stevesr0.
When I type in alpha, it seems to me that the letters are jumping around more than when I run antiX-19 (the installed version.) I am not sure if it is due to the mouse jumping. While I have been typing this, I accidentally “parked” the mouse on the top of the submission box and it became a finger -and the jumping seems to have stopped.
anyone noticing mouse problems in alpha?
stevesr0
dolphin_oracle
libspa-0.2-bluetooth for pipewire bluetooth.
Hi dolphin_oracle and caprea,
I had libspa-0.2-bluetooth installed, along with the other bluetooth packages and the pipewire-audio package which I read was needed, but pavucontrol doesn’t add my bluetooth headphones automagically to the output devices.
I had read that pairing with bluetooth devices by the new version of Pipewire was prompt and automagic.
What did you do to get bluetooth paired with Pipewire?
stevesr0
caprea
@olsztyn, on antiX full there is already everything installed you need for bluetooth in general.
For pipewire installpipewire wireplumber gstreamer1.0-pipewire libspa-0.2-bluetooth pavucontrol pipewire-pulseIn startup file I have
#start pipewire pipewire & #start wireplumber sleep 3 && wireplumber & #start pipewire-pulse sleep 4 && pipewire-pulse & ## Puts a volume icon on the taskbar sleep 5 && volumeicon &You can use blueman for connection, you can use pavucontrol for settings.In summary, pipewire works well here, but is not yet very well tested in general.So time will tell us.
Edit: Stevesr0, did you do the trust and pair with blueman? If this is done ones it should connect automatically.
Edit2:Stevesr0,you are right, the pipewire-audio-client-libraries are not needed. Deleted them from the above text.- This reply was modified 3 months ago by caprea.
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anticapitalista
You probably need to use runit-service-manager to start bluetooth as well.
Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.
antiX with runit - leaner and meaner.
caprea
Yes, sure, on the live usb after every boot, on installed only ones.
olsztyn
Great info…Thank you all for details.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters
Brian Masinick
I have the bluez package installed. I’m running antiX 21/22 right now, and while on one hand, the Bluetooth service IS running, the unfortunate reality for me is that the Bluetooth devices I have seldom work with antiX or any Debian-based system on a consistent basis. Fortunately a couple of the devices I actually use also have either USB, a skinny round audio serial plug, or both, and these DO work to provide audio – on antiX, provided the browser is also running apulse. If it isn’t, I simply restart a browser command or script with apulse, which I happen to have on my personal IceWM toolbar for the browsers I most commonly use.
I tried one of them without apulse and it did not produce sound; I ran the image from my toolbar with apulse and my plugged in device WAS able to receive sound, so that’s my workaround. My alternative workaround for actually using Bluetooth is to run a non-Debian system; they often have better results. However, both a pair of earbuds and a headset DO have a serial plug available, so I get my sound. I also have some systems that don’t have very good speakers or no speakers, but my ear based alternatives are pretty decent, so I’m OK here.
Another option is to build a bluez environment from source code. Be careful here, too, because the very newest bluez source code is too new to work with the stable antiX release, though it MAY work with our final antiX 23 release. It’s something to consider for anyone wanting the certainty of Bluetooth capability.
I mentioned that “the Bluetooth service IS running”. By that, I mean that runsv Bluetooth is running – at the moment it happens to be process 1906; the Connman daemon happens to be process 1905, so our distribution does appear to start the service correctly. The larger problem is that Debian based systems have some of the worst Bluetooth configurations, so unless we as a team or we as individuals build the Bluetooth infrastructure from standard Bluetooth sources instead of utilizing upstream components, we may not end up with an adequately consistent service. I base those comments both on my personal experiences over the past three years and my repeated investigations. I have managed to get things working a few times, only to have them inexplicably break all over again the next time I try them, so since in my case I have other options, plus other things to do, I’ve pretty much given up on laptop Bluetooth. If I really want it or need it I resort to my phone or my Chromebook, both of which handle the Bluetooth service fine.
So for those who want to conquer Bluetooth, those are my experiences; I hope yours have been more successful than mine!
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Brian MasinickHi all (too many to name),
After going to the control-centre and enabling bluetooth using the service manager in the systems tab, the bluetooth manager program launched and I did a search for my bluetooth headset. The terminal running the startup script detected an old bluetooth device but the bluetooth manager search didn’t find it.
I don’t see where/how to trust and pair with blueman. Is that run by a terminal command? (I haven’t played with bluetooth in a long while and my headset is old.)
stevesr0
P.S. first experience with the service manager tool – nice!
P.P.S. back after dinner.
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fladd
Pressing the “compact view” or “detailed view” buttons in zzzfm will remove desktop icons for some reason.
Brian Masinick
Hi all (too many to name),
After going to the control-centre and enabling bluetooth using the service manager in the systems tab, the bluetooth manager program launched and I did a search for my bluetooth headset. The terminal running the startup script detected an old bluetooth device but the bluetooth manager search didn’t find it.
I don’t see where/how to trust and pair with blueman. Is that run by a terminal command? (I haven’t played with bluetooth in a long while and my headset is old.)
stevesr0
P.S. first experience with the service manager tool – nice!
P.P.S. back after dinner.
Like I said above, with a great deal of effort, I’ve occasionally had success with Bluetooth, but the overall experience was so frustrating that it’s easier for me to either plug in a device or if I have to use Bluetooth, use my phone or my Chromebook, which work.
But frankly, even there, both of them have that serial plug too and I’ve found the physical connection to be more consistently reliable than Bluetooth even when it is working.
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Brian Masinickcaprea
Stevesr0, did you make the adapter visible for other devices in the adapter settings of blueman-manager?
It’s by default set to invisible.Hi caprea,
Thanks for input.
Yes, I just did that and searched again.
I also changed the Network Settings PAN and DUN support from Network Manager to Blueman and in the Transfer Settings selected “Demo” as a folder for incoming objects and checked “accept files from trusted devices”.
Even after that, search doesn’t result in discovery of my headphones.
Open to other suggestions until I shut off for the night.
stevesr0
caprea
While looking how desktop-icons can get removed by zzzfm, i stumbled across a glitch in zzzfm.
Invalid Bookmark Target
Bookmark target is missing or invalid.
The bookmarks are not translated here, so cant be found.Attachments:
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