antiX-23 released.

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  • #115172
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    ecr

      Thank you very much for this distro! I found out about it very recently, have tried the beta2 of v23, and have already switched some of my friends to it also.

      I will be doing a clean install once again.

      #115173
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      techore

        Yeeha!

        Now to beat my head into my desk trying to create somewhat compliant debian packages for antix-dwm 23 spin. *sigh* rpms were so much simpler 😛

        Thank you, anticapitalista et al.

        #115189
        Member
        blur13

          My super unsophisticated testing of startup speeds between runit and sysvinit revealed no difference. I used a stopwatch and isos “dd”:d to usb-sticks. Timed from hitting enter in the start-up menu until conky appeared.

          Granted, startup speed is only one tiny parameter. I’m sure there are a host of differences, runit being more modern etc. Tough choice. I’m probably going with sysvinit because I’m familiar with it, it seems more compatible with all sorts of apps, and its easier to manage (perhaps due to the familiarity aspect).

          #115191
          Member
          ile

            hello anticapitalista
            full Arditi del Popolo 26 August 2023
            Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
            installed on intel integrated WallE desktop tower
            zzz-fluxbox begins

             Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
            116.0 KiB +  21.5 KiB = 137.5 KiB	runit
            128.0 KiB +  26.5 KiB = 154.5 KiB	runsvdir
            156.0 KiB +  45.5 KiB = 201.5 KiB	seatd
             96.0 KiB + 175.5 KiB = 271.5 KiB	pipewire-start (3)
            264.0 KiB + 120.5 KiB = 384.5 KiB	startup
            372.0 KiB + 144.5 KiB = 516.5 KiB	dbus-launch
            360.0 KiB + 267.5 KiB = 627.5 KiB	udevil
            660.0 KiB + 283.5 KiB = 943.5 KiB	devmon
            816.0 KiB + 284.5 KiB =   1.1 MiB	desktop-session
            760.0 KiB + 405.0 KiB =   1.1 MiB	dbus-daemon (2)
            984.0 KiB + 346.5 KiB =   1.3 MiB	runsv (11)
            872.0 KiB + 558.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	getty (6)
            824.0 KiB + 889.0 KiB =   1.7 MiB	sudo (2)
              1.6 MiB + 289.5 KiB =   1.9 MiB	bash
              1.5 MiB + 772.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	pipewire-pulse
              1.6 MiB + 654.5 KiB =   2.2 MiB	udevd
              3.5 MiB + 245.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB	connmand
              3.2 MiB + 614.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB	wpa_supplicant
              4.5 MiB + 553.5 KiB =   5.1 MiB	conky
              3.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   5.2 MiB	pipewire
              4.6 MiB +   1.3 MiB =   5.9 MiB	fluxbox
              3.5 MiB +   4.2 MiB =   7.7 MiB	volumeicon
              7.8 MiB +   1.8 MiB =   9.7 MiB	wireplumber
             11.6 MiB +   1.6 MiB =  13.2 MiB	slimski
             11.4 MiB +   3.8 MiB =  15.2 MiB	zzzfm
             12.9 MiB +   4.9 MiB =  17.8 MiB	roxterm
             82.3 MiB +   1.7 MiB =  84.0 MiB	Xorg
            ---------------------------------
                                    187.5 MiB
            #115194
            Member
            Lead Farmer

              Thanks to dev team and the beta testers.

              Installation was easy, there were a few hiccups installing packages, I changed the repos, and it seemed to solve the problem.
              To me there is no big changes from antiX 22 that is still a very good OS.
              The changes are more packages in the repos 98k in antiX 23 compare 93k in antiX 22, new packages like alacritty terminal and nala instaaler.
              Performers are a little worse ~190MB compare to 140MB, Xorg takes more memory in antiX 23, CPU is a little low 1% compare 1.5% in antiX 23.

              I still need to finish setting up my laptop, and do more testing, but over all I like antiX 23.

              hello anticapitalista
              full Arditi del Popolo 26 August 2023
              Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm)
              installed on intel integrated WallE desktop tower
              zzz-fluxbox begins

              @ile what is the command to show the ram usage you posted.

              • This reply was modified 9 months ago by Lead Farmer.
              #115197
              Member
              ile

                sudo ps_mem.py

                #115199
                Member
                Lead Farmer

                  sudo ps_mem.py

                  Thanks.

                  ~> sudo ps_mem.py
                  [sudo] password for oren: 
                   Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                  156.0 KiB +  47.5 KiB = 203.5 KiB	seatd
                  196.0 KiB +  25.5 KiB = 221.5 KiB	gpm
                  212.0 KiB +  65.5 KiB = 277.5 KiB	init
                  304.0 KiB +  38.5 KiB = 342.5 KiB	acpid
                   96.0 KiB + 278.5 KiB = 374.5 KiB	pipewire-start (2)
                  292.0 KiB +  86.5 KiB = 378.5 KiB	cron
                  392.0 KiB + 171.5 KiB = 563.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                  460.0 KiB + 104.5 KiB = 564.5 KiB	rpc.statd
                  516.0 KiB +  48.5 KiB = 564.5 KiB	rpc.idmapd
                  476.0 KiB + 111.5 KiB = 587.5 KiB	rpcbind
                  352.0 KiB + 286.5 KiB = 638.5 KiB	udevil
                  364.0 KiB + 278.5 KiB = 642.5 KiB	icewm-session
                  164.0 KiB + 566.0 KiB = 730.0 KiB	saned (2)
                  656.0 KiB + 339.0 KiB = 995.0 KiB	dbus-daemon (2)
                  656.0 KiB + 398.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	devmon
                  824.0 KiB + 411.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	desktop-session
                  848.0 KiB + 565.0 KiB =   1.4 MiB	getty (6)
                    1.6 MiB +  26.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	smartd
                    1.7 MiB +  32.5 KiB =   1.7 MiB	sshd
                  992.0 KiB + 801.0 KiB =   1.8 MiB	sudo (2)
                    1.7 MiB + 239.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	connmand
                    2.1 MiB + 359.5 KiB =   2.4 MiB	bluetoothd
                    1.5 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   2.7 MiB	pipewire-pulse
                    2.1 MiB + 946.5 KiB =   3.0 MiB	pipewire
                    2.5 MiB + 625.5 KiB =   3.1 MiB	cupsd
                    1.0 MiB +   2.3 MiB =   3.3 MiB	udevd (2)
                    4.8 MiB +  26.5 KiB =   4.9 MiB	haveged
                    2.4 MiB +   2.6 MiB =   5.1 MiB	fish (2)
                    2.4 MiB +   3.5 MiB =   5.9 MiB	fbxkb
                    4.9 MiB +   1.2 MiB =   6.1 MiB	slimski
                    6.6 MiB + 546.5 KiB =   7.2 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                    5.5 MiB +   2.8 MiB =   8.4 MiB	icewm
                   13.4 MiB +   5.7 MiB =  19.1 MiB	roxterm
                   84.2 MiB +   1.4 MiB =  85.6 MiB	Xorg
                  ---------------------------------
                                          174.4 MiB

                  I don’t use the conkey and the volume icon.

                  #115201
                  Member
                  mcpderez

                    Just a minor question on top of what I already previously noticed:
                    – There are two occurences of dbus-daemon task running. Is this expected? I think I saw just one occurrence in Beta 3, if I am not mistaken.
                    – I see also at-spi-bus-launcher running? What actually needs this one? I do not think I saw this one in Beta3.

                    at-spi-bus-launcher enables accessibility technologies such as screen readers. Firefox and other GTK+ applications (among others) may use it, though the question is probably not so much what needs it as who needs it. If you don’t need any accessibility features then you could remove the at-spi2-core package and probably be OK as it was not present in the betas. You will, however, then get errors complaining about the accessibility bus address being unavailable as documented here: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/antix-23-beta1-runit-full-64bit-for-testing/page/25/#post-107913. Some users reported that the environment variable method of suppressing the errors mentioned there did not work for them in the long run.

                    AT-SPI runs a separate accessibility DBus by design. I would guess that is responsible for the second dbus-daemon you’re seeing.

                    More info:
                    http://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/at-spi2-core/-/tree/main/bus
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assistive_Technology_Service_Provider_Interface

                    #115202
                    Member
                    mcpderez

                      antiX-23 release was a welcome surprise to find after a journey on the high seas. My thanks to all the developers, testers, and enthusiasts as well.

                      I noticed the links on the announcement in the “Quick News” at https://www.antixforum.com/category/news/ are broken (they show the HTML tags).

                      Example:

                      antiX-23 (<a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arditi_del_Popolo” rel=”noopener” target=”_blank”>Arditi del Popolo</a>) is a new release based on Debian bookworm.

                      #115206
                      Member
                      marcelocripe

                        Anticapitalista, I identified only three menus that are without translations: Magnus, Onboard and GParted. Can we translate them in antiX’s GitLab or do they need to be via Upstream from the respective programs?

                        Thanks so much for using all the other translations.

                        To other volunteer translators, whenever you need help making merge requests on GitLab, please make your texts available in the topic Several “.desktop” files to be translated with the template I requested here.

                        – – – – –

                        Anticapitalista, eu identifiquei apenas três menus que estão sem as traduções: Magnus, Onboard e o GParted. Nós podemos traduzi-los no GitLab do antiX ou precisam ser via Upstream dos respectivos programas?

                        Muito obrigado por utilizar todas as outras traduções.

                        Aos outros tradutores voluntários, sempre que precisarem de ajuda para fazerem as solicitações de mesclagens no GitLab, por favor, disponibilizem os seus textos no tópico Several “.desktop” files to be translated com o modelo que eu solicitei aqui.

                        #115207
                        Member
                        olsztyn

                          I don’t use the conkey and the volume icon.

                          Hi Lead Farmer…
                          I am curious if you have sound while in the session you posted with the ps_mem.py, or if you do have sound whether you can adjust volume with hardware keys… It appears that wireplumber did not start for you in that session…
                          Usually when wireplumber fails to start for me then I do get sound but volume adjustment does not work…

                          Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                          http://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                          #115209
                          Member
                          olsztyn

                            at-spi-bus-launcher enables accessibility technologies such as screen readers. Firefox and other GTK+ applications (among others) may use it, though the question is probably not so much what needs it as who needs it. If you don’t need any accessibility features then you could remove the at-spi2-core package and probably be OK as it was not present in the betas.

                            Thank you @mcpderez…
                            I have done exactly that yesterday. I figured that since I do not use these features I might as well clean up some extra baggage… But understandably some users do need it.

                            Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
                            http://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters

                            #115222
                            Moderator
                            Brian Masinick

                              Memory configuration running antiX 23 runit full live (already customized and using a Frugal persist configuration –

                              sudo ps_mem.py 
                               Private  +   Shared  =  RAM used	Program
                              116.0 KiB +  16.5 KiB = 132.5 KiB	runit
                              124.0 KiB +  21.5 KiB = 145.5 KiB	runsvdir
                              156.0 KiB +  28.5 KiB = 184.5 KiB	seatd
                               96.0 KiB + 164.5 KiB = 260.5 KiB	pipewire-start (3)
                              268.0 KiB +  98.5 KiB = 366.5 KiB	network-check-a
                              256.0 KiB + 112.5 KiB = 368.5 KiB	startup
                              388.0 KiB +  72.5 KiB = 460.5 KiB	dbus-launch
                              372.0 KiB + 113.5 KiB = 485.5 KiB	icewm-session
                              356.0 KiB + 169.5 KiB = 525.5 KiB	udevil
                              672.0 KiB + 247.5 KiB = 919.5 KiB	devmon
                              816.0 KiB + 243.5 KiB =   1.0 MiB	desktop-session
                                1.0 MiB + 240.5 KiB =   1.2 MiB	runsv (11)
                              848.0 KiB + 431.0 KiB =   1.2 MiB	getty (6)
                              856.0 KiB + 694.0 KiB =   1.5 MiB	chrome_crashpad_handler (2)
                                1.2 MiB + 378.5 KiB =   1.5 MiB	upowerd
                              872.0 KiB + 734.0 KiB =   1.6 MiB	sudo (2)
                                1.1 MiB + 519.5 KiB =   1.6 MiB	dbus-daemon (3)
                                1.6 MiB + 244.5 KiB =   1.8 MiB	udevd
                                1.4 MiB + 632.5 KiB =   2.0 MiB	pipewire-pulse
                                1.8 MiB + 294.5 KiB =   2.1 MiB	bash
                                2.1 MiB + 528.5 KiB =   2.6 MiB	conky
                                2.8 MiB + 493.5 KiB =   3.3 MiB	at-spi-bus-launcher
                                2.9 MiB + 453.5 KiB =   3.4 MiB	at-spi2-registryd
                                3.7 MiB + 138.5 KiB =   3.8 MiB	connmand
                                4.4 MiB + 827.5 KiB =   5.2 MiB	slimski
                                4.4 MiB +   1.1 MiB =   5.5 MiB	pipewire
                                7.1 MiB + 299.5 KiB =   7.4 MiB	wpa_supplicant
                                6.3 MiB +   1.6 MiB =   7.8 MiB	icewm
                                5.5 MiB +   2.7 MiB =   8.3 MiB	volumeicon
                                7.7 MiB +   1.5 MiB =   9.2 MiB	wireplumber
                                8.9 MiB +   3.6 MiB =  12.5 MiB	roxterm
                               23.6 MiB +   2.4 MiB =  26.0 MiB	zzzfm
                               44.3 MiB +  20.0 MiB =  64.3 MiB	cmst
                               69.3 MiB +  24.0 MiB =  93.3 MiB	Xorg
                              401.6 MiB + 143.9 MiB = 545.5 MiB	chromium (14)
                              ---------------------------------
                                                      817.4 MiB
                              =================================

                              --
                              Brian Masinick

                              #115223
                              Moderator
                              Brian Masinick

                                antiX-23 release was a welcome surprise to find after a journey on the high seas. My thanks to all the developers, testers, and enthusiasts as well.

                                I noticed the links on the announcement in the “Quick News” at https://www.antixforum.com/category/news/ are broken (they show the HTML tags).

                                Example:

                                antiX-23 (<a href=”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arditi_del_Popolo” rel=”noopener” target=”_blank”>Arditi del Popolo</a>) is a new release based on Debian bookworm.

                                There are several URL references that are not being correctly interpreted; they are in the recent antiX-23 released and Updated antiX-sid iso files available announcements; the other announcements are fine.

                                --
                                Brian Masinick

                                #115227
                                Moderator
                                Brian Masinick

                                  Now that I have both sysVinit and runit images downloaded, configured and populated on multiple USB Flash Drives, I’ve tested multiple configurations on my HP-14, and it has been successful, so today I’m starting to install the image to additional hardware.

                                  Since I tested runit exclusively and considerably, and also because this *may* be the final release containing sysVinit, I’m installing it, if for no other than sentimental and historical reasons; I’ve been VERY happy using runit, and in fact this morning I was using runit in a Frugal persist configuration.

                                  Here’s an installed instance on older hardware –

                                  pinxi -bop
                                  System:
                                    Host: antix23 Kernel: 6.1.42-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
                                      Desktop: IceWM v: 3.4.1 Distro: antiX-23_x64 bookworm August 28  2023
                                  Machine:
                                    Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 3249CTO v: ThinkPad X201
                                      serial: <superuser required>
                                    Mobo: LENOVO model: 3249CTO serial: <superuser required> BIOS: LENOVO
                                      v: 6QET66WW (1.36 ) date: 05/31/2011
                                  Battery:
                                    ID-1: BAT0 charge: 79.0 Wh (99.6%) condition: 79.3/84.2 Wh (94.2%)
                                  CPU:
                                    Info: dual core Intel Core i7 M 620 [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1545
                                      min/max: 1199/2667
                                  Graphics:
                                    Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
                                    Device-2: Lenovo Integrated Webcam driver: uvcvideo type: USB
                                    Display: server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: intel dri: crocus
                                      gpu: i915 resolution: 1280x800~60Hz
                                    API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics (ILK)
                                  Network:
                                    Device-1: Intel 82577LM Gigabit Network driver: e1000e
                                    Device-2: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 driver: iwlwifi
                                  Drives:
                                    Local Storage: total: 119.24 GiB used: 9.88 GiB (8.3%)
                                  Partition:
                                    ID-1: / size: 116.81 GiB used: 9.88 GiB (8.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
                                  Unmounted:
                                    Message: No unmounted partitions found.
                                  Info:
                                    Processes: 178 Uptime: 3m Memory: total: 8 GiB available: 7.56 GiB
                                    used: 518.7 MiB (6.7%) Shell: Bash pinxi: 3.3.29-2

                                  --
                                  Brian Masinick

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