antiX 32 bit users

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

For those using antiX 32 bit isos.

kernel 4.9 is end of life.
There seems little point in providing a 6 series kernel for 32 bit boxes.

Should we ship on antiX-23 32 bit iso
4.19 kernel
5.10 kernel

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[Moderator christophe]

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My Pentium 4 laptop runs both 4.19 & 5.10 kernels equally well.

I’ve never run a 6.x kernel on it; I stick to the antiX kernels which you provide.

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[Member Robin]

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Same here, Pentium M notebook with dedicated nvidia gforce 6600 go graphics runs fine on 4.19 and 5.10 kernels both. On 4.19 the proprietary nvidia driver is needed to get a stable system, while in late 5.10 kernels nouveau starts working reliable. (Right now running 5.19 i686 kernel on the very 32 bit notebook without any issues.)

Can’t check right now on AMD Athlon Thunderbird and AMD Athlon XP. But if I remember correctly, the update to 5.x kernel series has broken virtualbox completely on these devices due to their weird update strategy, constantly breaking something by removing some code needed for execution and the same time making their newer versions incompatible to older kernels. So they force you to run outdated kernels to keep their program running on these machines. Besides this pitfall I believe to remember 5.10.x kernels were fine on athlon XP. (My respective notes on these specific devices have been gone completely after a hdd headcrash, sorry.)

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[Member techore]

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+1 4.19

I’ve got nothing agains 5.10, but my assumptions is 4.19 would supports older hardware better.

[Forum Admin dolphin_oracle]

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the only 32 bit machine I have left is an asus eeepc904ha. both the 5.10 and the 4.19 work fine on it.

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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I’ll just add that in terms of End Of Life (EOL)

4.19 – Dec, 2024
5.10 – Dec, 2026

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[Member marcelocripe]

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I’ll just add that in terms of End Of Life (EOL)

4.19 – Dec, 2024
5.10 – Dec, 2026

At least we’ll have a 32-bit operating system for a while longer.

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Ao menos teremos um sistema operacional de 32 bits por mais algum tempo.

[Member mcpderez]

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I’m sure I’ll survive if I have to use an EOL 4.9 machine on my LAN if I find some hardware that won’t run with 4.19 or 5.10. If that can be an option without too much complication, it would be great — or I could always go back to an older antiX. Both 4.19 and 5.10 seem reasonable.

I have many 32-bit systems ready to test and play with and one semi-daily driver mini netbook with 1600 x 768 resolution (Sony VAIO VGN-P530H) that fits easily in the bottom of my backpack so I always have an alternative to my work-issued Macbook Pro. It worked very well to tether to my cell phone and post to the forum while on a train making its way along the Colorado River. Since service was scarce it worked well to load several threads to read during the coverage gaps.

I’m looking forward to testing on ThinkPad R32, T41, T42, T43, Dell Latitude D610, Acer AOA150 and maybe even my ThinkPad 380Z — this one will be a challenge. I also have several first generation Intel Macs to try antiX-23 on, and my only Lightscribe drive is in an Atom-powered mini desktop I built from a NewEgg kit over a decade ago. (It’s running Arch, btw. — but hopefully not for long — 8^)

I’m hoping you will continue releasing a “core”, “base” and “full” build. The computers I have with more resources I usually start with base or full, but sometimes I prefer to just start with core and build up to a minimal X11 GUI.

Thank you and the rest of the development team for all the hard work, and to the forum regulars for contributing answers and ideas. I’m learning something here every day.

{written with techore’s antiX-dwm release 2 live session}

[Member DaveW]

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My Asus eeepc 900 works equally well with 4.19 or 5.10 kernels, running antiX 21/22.

As noted in another thread, my only issue with 21/22 (on the eeepc 900) is that the OS doesn’t recognize the device screen resolution, requiring a somewhat clumsy work around to get the native resolution working. But it only requires a few extra key strokes to accomplish.

I prefer the 5.10 kernel due to the built-in wireguard vpn capability. Although I haven’t made much use of it, it works well with NORDvpn.

The longer EOL is a plus for 5.10. But shipping with both kernel options may be helpful on some older equipment.

Thank you for keeping 32 bit systems alive.

[Member kernelpanic]

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Series-4-kernels never worked well on my old acer laptop (extremely long boottimes,
sluggish desktop behavior).
I didn’t investigate this further, because 5.10 is working nicely, so I would prefer the 5.10 kernel.

[Member andfree]

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I use three old 32-bit laptops.
The main one, a Satellite 2450 (Pentium 4) with NVIDIA NV17M (GeForce4), runs 5.10 kernel well, but not 4.19. This topic was about it.
I’ve just tested the second laptop, a Satellite L10 (Pentium M) one. Both of the 5.10 & 4.19 kernels seem to work fine on it.
I’ll be Bach to write about the third laptop, a Presario 2100 (Celeron) one, when I test it.
Many thanks for keeping all these machines alive.

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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Thanks all.

It seems that it would be wise to go for the 5.10 kernel as the default kernel on antiX-23 32 bit isos.

O/T good news – 6.1 kernel will be LTS and supported, just like 5.10, until the end of 2026.

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-6.1-LTS-Official

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[Member andfree]

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Both of the kernels seem to work fine on Presario 2100 (Celeron).

anticapitalista wrote:

It seems that it would be wise to go for the 5.10 kernel as the default kernel on antiX-23 32 bit isos.

I think it’s a reasonable thought.

[Member marcelocripe]

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Anticapitalist, would it be possible to have two or three kernels available in the boot menu?

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Anticapitalista, seria possível ter dois ou três kernels disponíveis no menu de incialização?

[Forum Admin anticapitalista]

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marcelocripe wrote:

Anticapitalist, would it be possible to have two or three kernels available in the boot menu?

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Anticapitalista, seria possível ter dois ou três kernels disponíveis no menu de incialização?

It’s possible, but I don’t think it is a good idea.
It adds to the iso size and adds extra complexity, especially when running live/fugal and remastering/making snapshots

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