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  • #27797
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    oopsoops

    … 32bit here too

    inxi -zv 8
    System:    Host: antix1 Kernel: 5.2.15-antix.1-686-smp-pae i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 
               parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.2.15-antix.1-686-smp-pae root=UUID=2222148a-6fa9-4c51-b460-6331eaeec437 ro 
               pti=auto ipv6.disable=1 resume=UUID=25478355-2acc-418d-9404-51952c0d6644 quiet 
               Desktop: IceWM 1.6.1 dm: LightDM 1.26.0 Distro: antiX-17.4.1_386-full Helen Keller 28 March 2019 
               base: Debian GNU/Linux bullseye/sid 
    Machine:   Type: Laptop System: MICRO-STAR product: MS-N033 v: Ver.001 serial: <filter> 
               Mobo: MICRO-STAR model: U-123 v: Ver.001 serial: <filter> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 4.6.3 date: 05/06/2010 
    Battery:   ID-1: BAT1 charge: 52.2 Wh condition: 52.6/57.7 Wh (91%) volts: 12.5/11.1 model: MSI Corp. MS-N033 type: Unknown 
               serial: N/A status: Unknown 
    Memory:    RAM: total: 1.89 GiB used: 811.5 MiB (41.9%) 
               RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
    PCI Slots: Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
    CPU:       Topology: Single Core model: Intel Atom N280 bits: 32 type: MT arch: Bonnell family: 6 model-id: 1C (28) 
               stepping: 2 microcode: 218 L2 cache: 512 KiB bogomips: 6667 
               Speed: 1667 MHz min/max: 1000/1667 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1667 2: 1667 
               Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cpuid cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est 
               fpu fxsr ht lahf_lm mca mce mmx monitor movbe msr mtrr nx pae pat pbe pdcm pebs pge pni pse sep ss sse sse2 ssse3 
               tm tm2 tsc vme xtpr 
               Vulnerabilities: Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
               Type: mds status: Not affected 
               Type: meltdown status: Not affected 
               Type: spec_store_bypass status: Not affected 
               Type: spectre_v1 status: Not affected 
               Type: spectre_v2 status: Not affected 
    Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: i915 v: kernel 
               bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:27ae 
               Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: intel unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1024x600~60Hz 
               OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 1.4 Mesa 18.3.6 direct render: Yes 
    Audio:     Device-1: Intel NM10/ICH7 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
               bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:27d8 
               Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.2.15-antix.1-686-smp-pae 
    Network:   Device-1: Realtek RTL810xE PCI Express Fast Ethernet vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 
               bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8136 
               IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
               IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic scope: global broadcast: <filter> 
               Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter vendor: AzureWave AW-NE771 802.11bgn driver: ath9k 
               v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 168c:002a 
               IF: wlan0 state: down mac: <filter> 
               WAN IP: <filter> 
    Drives:    Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 99.44 GiB (21.4%) 
               ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST95005620AS size: 465.76 GiB block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
               speed: <unknown> rotation: 7200 rpm serial: <filter> rev: SD23 scheme: MBR 
               Message: No Optical or Floppy data was found. 
    RAID:      Message: No RAID data was found. 
    Partition: ID-1: / raw size: 8.09 GiB size: 7.91 GiB (97.68%) used: 4.72 GiB (59.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda12 
               label: rootantiX17.4.1 uuid: 2222148a-6fb2-4c51-b460-6331eaeec437 
               ID-2: /home raw size: 170.83 GiB size: 167.15 GiB (97.85%) used: 94.72 GiB (56.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda10 
               label: H-MX17 uuid: a8a77622-00f9-47a7-be1d-49fb4dfe647c 
               ID-3: swap-1 size: 4.45 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap swappiness: 10 (default 60) 
               cache pressure: 50 (default 100) dev: /dev/sda5 label: swap uuid: 25478355-2acc-418d-9404-51952c0d6644 
    Unmounted: ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 100.0 MiB fs: ntfs label: R\xc3\xa9serv\xc3\xa9 au syst\xc3\xa8me uuid: 1E2E69781E69493B 
    ... 
    USB:       Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 8 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
               Device-1: 1-6:3 info: Generic USB2.0-CRW type: Mass Storage driver: ums-realtek interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 
               speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 0bda:0158 serial: <filter> 
               Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0001 
               Device-2: 2-1:3 info: SIGMACHIP Usb Mouse type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 
               speed: 1.5 Mb/s chip ID: 1c4f:0034 
               Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0001 
               Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0001 
               Hub: 5-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0001 
    Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 46.0 C mobo: N/A 
               Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
    Repos:     Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list 
               1: deb https://mirrors.evowise.com/mxlinux-packages/antix/buster/ buster main nosystemd nonfree
               Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
               1: deb http://la.mxrepo.com/antix/buster buster main nonfree
               No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
               Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
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               2: deb http://security.debian.org/ buster/updates main contrib non-free
               No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/home:stevenpusser.list 
               No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/onion.list 
               No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/various.list 
    Processes: CPU top: 5 
               1: cpu: 22.3% command: palemoon pid: 11208 mem: 561.1 MiB (28.9%) 
               2: cpu: 2.6% command: udisksd pid: 3955 mem: 10.6 MiB (0.5%) 
               3: cpu: 1.5% command: gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor pid: 4088 mem: 16.0 MiB (0.8%) 
               4: cpu: 1.3% command: xorg pid: 2720 mem: 35.3 MiB (1.8%) 
               5: cpu: 1.2% command: bash pid: 29380 mem: 4.48 MiB (0.2%) 
               Memory top: 5 
               1: mem: 561.1 MiB (28.9%) command: palemoon pid: 11208 cpu: 22.3% 
               2: mem: 42.2 MiB (2.1%) command: nemo pid: 4081 cpu: 0.0% 
               3: mem: 40.4 MiB (2.0%) command: redshift-gtk started by: python3 pid: 3861 cpu: 0.0% 
               4: mem: 39.7 MiB (2.0%) command: forump.txt started by: geany pid: 4973 cpu: 0.0% 
               5: mem: 35.6 MiB (1.8%) command: udiskie started by: python3 pid: 3838 cpu: 0.2% 
    Info:      Processes: 138 Uptime: 8h 16m Init: SysVinit v: 2.93 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Compilers: gcc: 8.3.0 alt: 8 
               Shell: bash v: 5.0.3 running in: lxterminal inxi: 3.0.36 
    #27804
    Member
    rayluorayluo

    Noticed this thread just now. So chiming in.

    To me, the rule of thumb is solely determined by the RAM of my computers.

    * If it has more than 4GB RAM, it would need a 64 bit OS to make use of all those RAM.
    * If it has 4GB or less RAM, 32 bit OS is enough.

    In reality, somehow all (but one) of my personal computers are a decade old, they typically equipped with 2 GB to 4 GB RAM, and my work flow does not really require more RAM, so I use AntiX 32bit only.

    I will happily switch to 64 bit when/if my fleet wears out and the replacement happens to have >4gb RAM. But I don’t see that happening anytime soon. Those old laptops are still going strong. They just won’t die. 🙂

    #27962
    Member
    AvatarSummer Deep

    Hi all, new member here!

    I’ve had a love-hate relationship with AntiX for about four years, have given up on the distro numerous times, but it’s always retained a fascination which has lured me back in again. Problems with the erratic Wicd wireless interface have driven me to distraction at times, as has the firewall which is constantly turning itself off, not to mention the difficulties at times with playing a dvd, and quite a few other issues…

    Anyway, right now I’m using a 32-bit setup on an ancient T42 Thinkpad, which seems to be functioning more or less perfectly with none of the above drawbacks, plus I have a very reliable live 32-bit usb installation with root persistence, which I also use on ancient Thinkpads. I booted up a live dvd version on a T21 Thinkpad with 256 mb RAM this afternoon, and was astonished to see it running a fully usable Dillo browser with less than 70 mb RAM consumption.

    32-bit AntiX is brilliant, exceptionally impressive on those machines, and I’d be very sad to see it disappear…

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 4 weeks ago by Summer Deep.
    #27982
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    Avatarmalanrich

    Loooong time Mepis and antiX user. Currently running four 32-bit antiX systems: Dell Optiplex GX260 (bought maybe ten years ago? and even then it had been refurbished!), Dell Dimension 4550 (given to me new by my university before I retired, maybe around 2005?), Dell Inspiron laptop (bought new in 2010), a second-hand FrankenBox (assembled from spare parts and handed off by a friend maybe 2015). These systems run various versions: antiX-15, antiX-16, and antiX-17. I do mainly text editing and freelance writing and research but most every other kind of use as well: web surfing, social media, email, video and photo collecting. I maintain all of them in almost identical modes at different locations, partly for convenience but partly also for the security of redundancy. The only 64-bit capable one is the FrankenBox but I use 32-bit anyway (using it now). Maybe the Inspiron is 64-bit too, but I’ve only ever used 32-bit. I’m looking forward to upgrading them to antiX-19, because sometime you just need to keep up. I’ve tried live sessions with the recent betas and it looks like I’ll have zero problems with upgrading all of them despite the vintage hardware. On the other hand, there’s nothing I *can’t* do with the versions I’m running now. As far as I’m concerned this is a very productive set-up and I’d hate to see 32-bit vanish. Most of my boxes would have to be tossed into a landfill.

    #27990
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    Avatarolsztyn

    I booted up a live dvd version on a T21 Thinkpad with 256 mb RAM this afternoon, and was astonished to see it running a fully usable Dillo browser with less than 70 mb RAM consumption.
    32-bit AntiX is brilliant, exceptionally impressive on those machines, and I’d be very sad to see it disappear…

    On T21: If it happens to still have hard disk you can install antiX as Frugal, which will provide way better performance than live CD. You still need to initiate booting from CD as USB 1.1 on T21 is even slower, but the booting process turns quickly to much faster hard disk based Frugal antiX. I have done this with T23 with Palemoon rather than Dillo, but your RAM may not allow Palemoon…
    One way or the other one beauty of antiX is very elaborate Live capability. Stick a fully configured USB or CD in any machine at hand (old or new) and it just works…

    #27992
    Member
    oopsoops

    … I have done this with T23 with Palemoon rather than Dillo, but your RAM may not allow Palemoon…
    One way or the other one beauty of antiX is very elaborate Live capability. Stick a fully configured USB or CD in any machine at hand (old or new) and it just works…

    FYI: Palemoon with the plugin “Lull the Tabs” usually do the trick. (to save some memory)

    • This reply was modified 9 months, 3 weeks ago by oops.
    #39187
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    Avatarmarcelocripe

    Anticapitalist,

    I know I am participating in this post very late, however, I have only recently been on this forum and using antiX Linux.

    I still face many computers / notebooks that have about 512 MB to 4G GB of RAM, sometimes 256 MB with DIMM technology, 4GB of RAM in some cases is impossible, the vast majority of motherboards in activities support at most 2GB of RAM with DDR 1 technology, less DDR 2, even less DDR 3 or 4, these when I find them on ordinary users’ computers, I’m even surprised …

    Intel processors: Pentium 4, Celeron, Atom and AMD processors: Athlon, Duron and etc., are more common to be found than those of the Core I 3, 5 or 7 family, as well as those of AMD’s Ryzen family, few people have access to the latest technologies, either due to cost, or due to lack of information, or lack of technical support during purchase. Because, I don’t know any salesperson who says that the product for sale is no good.

    The “promotions” of computers / notebooks in Brazil, deceive many basic users, sell technology that is offline or that are discontinued as if they were current or new technology, some Intel processors are disguised as “Genuine Intel”, hide Single Core or Dual Core with the use of this name, motherboard of terrible quality, Chinese products that we don’t even find manual.

    A bundle of drivers in antiX to support a wide variety of hardware is more important, in my view, than having multiple desktops (or window managers), I have nothing against that …, or having multiple programs that run the same function pre-installed in the operating system, I have nothing against it … A workspace that is as light as possible and that accepts to include shortcut icons in it makes the life of the end user much easier and familiar with what is used to.

    With U $ 1.00 (US dollar) quoted today at R $ 5.23 (reais – Brazilian currency) and more taxes, we will have to use and reuse old computers and notebooks for many years and as long as it is possible to repair them, for that we need current operating systems that consume little processing and little RAM, and this is where antiX Linux is an important differential, I hope it continues like this …

    To access YouTube, emails, chat rooms, WhatsApp via a web browser, Skype via a web browser, the Office package, etc., the less the operating system requires processing and RAM consumption, the better!

    I follow this thought more or less:

    If the end user has a 64-bit processor, 4 GB of RAM or more, I will use antiX 64 bits full.
    If the end user has a 64-bit processor, less than 2 GB of RAM, I will certainly use antiX 32 bits full, unless there is a specific need for antiX full 64 bits.
    If the end user has a 32-bit processor, less than 2 GB of RAM, there is no other option but to use antiX 32 bits full.

    I will only be able to start using versions of antiX that are not full, when I manage to master the offline installations of packages and updates, so I will install only what is really necessary on computers with little processing and little RAM. I hope to be able to use the program that Xecure is developing, link: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/apt-based-offline-repo-small-yad-bash-project/, in addition to using AppImage as form of palliative solution the difficulty of installing repositories and programs offline. AppImage may become the future for Linux, but updating the offline operating system will still be a problem for me to overcome.

    I hope I contributed to the initial question:

    ust wondering.

    Do you use the 32 bit version and if so, give some details.

    eg When running liveusb (usb2) I use 32 bit version (usually base). on Thinkpad L412

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit – leaner and meaner.

    I take this opportunity to register my sincere thanks for developing, making available and updating antiX Linux.

    Thankful.
    marcelocripe

    Original text in Brazilian Portuguese, translated into English by Google translator.

    ———–

    Anticapitalista,

    Eu sei que estou participando desta postagem muito tarde, contudo, faz pouco tempo que eu estou neste fórum e utilizando o antiX Linux.

    Ainda me deparo com muitos computadores / notebook que possuem cerca de 512 MB até 4G GB de memória RAM, as vezes 256 MB com tecnologia DIMM, 4GB de memória RAM em alguns casos são impossíveis, a grande maioria das placas mães em atividades suportam no máximo 2GB de memória RAM com tecnologia DDR 1, em menor quantidade DDR 2, ainda menos DDR 3 ou 4, estas quando encontro em computadores de usuários comuns, fico até surpreso …

    Processadores Intel: Pentium 4, Celeron, Atom e processadores AMD: Athlon, Duron e etc, são mais comuns de serem encontrados do que os da família Core I 3, 5 ou 7, bem como os da família Ryzen da AMD, poucos pessoas tem acesso as tecnologias mais recentes, seja devido ao custo, ou devido a falta de informação, ou a falta de suporte técnico durante a compra. Até porque, não conheço vendedor algum que diz que o produto à venda não presta.

    As “promoções” de computadores / notebook no Brasil, enganam muitos usuários básicos, vendem tecnologia que estão fora de linha ou que estão descontinuadas como se fossem tecnologia atual ou nova, alguns processadores Intel são disfarçados como “Genuine Intel”, escondem Single Core ou Dual Core com o uso deste nome, placa-mães de péssima qualidade, produtos chinês que sequer encontramos manual.

    Um pacotão de drivers no antiX para suportar uma variedade grande hardwares são mais importante, ao meu ver, do que ter diversas áreas de trabalho (ou gerenciadores de janelas), eu não tenho nada contra isso …, ou ter vários programas que executam a mesma função pré instalados no sistema operacional, eu não tenho nada contra isso… Uma área de trabalho que seja a mais leve possível e que aceite incluir ícones de atalho nela tornam a vida do usuário final muito mais fácil e familiar com o que está acostumado.

    Com U$ 1,00 (dólar americano) cotado hoje a R$ 5,23 (reais – moeda Brasileira) e mais impostos, nós teremos que utilizar e reutilizar computadores e notebooks antigos por muitos anos e enquanto for possível consertá-los, para isso precisamos de sistemas operacionais atuais e que consumem pouco processamento e pouca memória RAM, e é aí que o antiX Linux é um diferencial importante, eu espero que continue assim …

    Para acessar o YouTube, emails, salas de bate papo, WhatsApp via navegador de internet, Skype via navegador de internet, pacote Office e etc, quanto menos o sistema operacional exigir de consumo de processamento e de memória RAM, melhor!

    Eu sigo mais ou mensos este pensamento:

    Se o usuário final possuir processador de 64 bits, 4 GB de RAM ou mais, usarei o antiX 64 bits full.
    Se o usuário final possuir processador de 64 bits, menos de 2 GB de RAM, certamente usarei o antiX 32 bits full, exceto se houver necessidade específica do antiX full 64 bits.
    Se o usuário final possuir processador de 32 bits, menos de 2 GB de RAM, não sobra outra opção, a não ser usar o antiX 32 bits full.

    Eu só poderei começar a usar as versões do antiX que são não full, quando eu conseguir dominar as instalações offline de pacotes e atualizações, assim instalarei somente o que for realmente necessário nos computadores com pouco processamento e pouca memória RAM. Eu espero conseguir utilizar o programa que o Xecure está desenvolvendo, link: https://www.antixforum.com/forums/topic/apt-based-offline-repo-small-yad-bash-project/, além de usar AppImage como forma de solução paliativa a dificuldade de instalar repositórios e programas offline. O AppImage pode se tornar o futuro para o Linux, mas a atualização do sistema operacional offline ainda será um problema a ser superado por mim.

    Eu espero ter colaborado com a pergunta inicial:

    ust wondering.

    Do you use the 32 bit version and if so, give some details.

    eg When running liveusb (usb2) I use 32 bit version (usually base). on Thinkpad L412

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    antiX with runit – leaner and meaner.

    Aproveito para registrar os meus sinceros agradecimentos por desenvolverem, disponibilizarem e atualizarem o antiX Linux.

    Grato.
    marcelocripe

    Texto original em idioma português do Brasil, traduzido para o inglês por Google tradutor.

    #39206
    Forum Admin
    rokytnjirokytnji

    I hope I contributed to the initial question:

    You did A VERY GOOD JOB in my view. My reason for reposting. Installed 32 bit AntiX 19.2 on 32 bit XP era atom clamshell netbook.

    harry@biker:~
    $ cd Isos
    harry@biker:~/Isos
    $ ls
    AntiX                      Bohdi               Multiboot
    antiX-19.2.1_386-base.iso  exton_e17_debian11  MX
    antiX-19.2_386-full.iso    Knoppix
    harry@biker:~/Isos
    

    Hardware Sounds like a perfect fit for Brazil.
    Still dealing with family company here.

    I will keep testing antiX 32 bit till when ever I am given no choice to do so any more.
    Good thing I grok Puppy, almost Slitaz, and other stuff I have not tried yet.
    The have not tried yet is. Because? Lack of interest.
    Bohdi and Exton are for a E17 itch.
    Exton does not build much on 32 bit. I am just guessing though.
    Knoppix either. MX still does though.

    MX 15 32 bit was what I blew away on that clamshell netbook I just posted about.

    Sometimes I drive a crooked road to get my mind straight.
    Not all who Wander are Lost.
    I'm not outa place. I'm from outer space.

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    #39212
    Member
    RichardRichard

    I recently received an Asus EeePC 900from 2009, 32 bit with 2 GB RAM & 30 GB internal storage; Intel Celeron M; w/512 kB L2 cache.

    Installed MX19.2×32 without issue except that I tended to overload it’s capabilities. Installed IceWM but was spending too much time getting it set up. So, thought why bother –just install antiX-19.2 with IceWM!

    Did so, and most everything is accessible. Wifi problem solution found in antiX forum: install antiX, only use Conman to set up wifi;
    do NOT combine with Ceni Either use only one or the other.

    Wired doesn’t matter.

    antiX is usable out of the box. Setting up to suit myself is easy when wifi works. I much prefer adding Double Commander file manager for my use. This is an easy fix.

    Now with USB speakers, serves as a Pandora streaming player.

    • This reply was modified 2 weeks ago by Richard.

    T430=MX183
    EeePC-1005HA=antiX19b3

    #39216
    Moderator
    masinickmasinick

    @Richard:

    Congratulations on your successful installation and welcome to antiX!

    Brian Masinick

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