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    dimz

      I try both in my system …
      with antix 32 start from 85 M RAM
      with antix 64 start from 500 M RAM
      my system is 64
      i prefer use antix 32 because is faster but is this better solution or must use antix 64 ?
      give me your opinion

      dim@antix1dim:~
      $ inxi -zv7
      System:
      Host: antix1dim Kernel: 4.9.160-antix.2-486-smp i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 6.3.0
      Desktop: IceWM 1.4.2 info: icewmtray dm: SLiM 1.3.4
      Distro: antiX-17.4.1_386-full Helen Keller 28 March 2019
      base: Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)
      Machine:
      Type: Laptop System: Hewlett-Packard product: HP Compaq 6730b (GW687AV) v: F.08
      serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter>
      Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 30DD v: KBC Version 96.18 serial: <filter>
      BIOS: Hewlett-Packard v: 68PDD Ver. F.08 date: 09/18/2008
      Battery:
      ID-1: BAT0 charge: 45.7 Wh condition: 46.5/46.5 Wh (100%) volts: 12.5/11.1
      model: Hewlett-Packard Primary type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown
      Memory:
      RAM: total: 1.90 GiB used: 677.8 MiB (34.8%)
      RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
      CPU:
      Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo P8400 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Penryn
      rev: 6 L2 cache: 3072 KiB bogomips: 9044
      Speed: 1600 MHz min/max: 800/2267 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1600 2: 1600
      Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc cx16 cx8 de
      ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est flexpriority fpu fxsr ht lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor
      msr mtrr nx pae pat pbe pdcm pebs pge pni pse pse36 sep smx ss sse sse2 sse4_1 ssse3
      tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc vme vmx vnmi xtpr
      Graphics:
      Device-1: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Hewlett-Packard
      driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:2a42
      Display: server: X.Org 1.19.2 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
      resolution: 1280×800~60Hz
      OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Mobile Intel GM45 Express x86/MMX/SSE2 v: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6
      direct render: Yes
      Audio:
      Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel
      v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:293e
      Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.9.160-antix.2-486-smp
      Network:
      Device-1: Broadcom Limited BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY vendor: Hewlett-Packard
      driver: wl v: kernel port: 6000 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 14e4:4315
      IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
      IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
      IP v6: <filter> scope: link
      Device-2: Broadcom Limited NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
      vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: tg3 v: 3.137 port: 6000 bus ID: 85:00.0
      chip ID: 14e4:1693
      IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
      WAN IP: <filter>
      Drives:
      Local Storage: total: 126.33 GiB used: 6.23 GiB (4.9%)
      ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MK1252GSX size: 111.79 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s
      serial: <filter> rev: 1C scheme: MBR
      ID-2: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Toshiba model: TransMemory size: 14.53 GiB
      serial: <filter> rev: PMAP scheme: MBR
      Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: Optiarc model: DVD-ROM DDU820S rev: MH04
      dev-links: cdrom,dvd
      Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes rw: none state: running
      RAID:
      Message: No RAID data was found.
      Partition:
      ID-1: / size: 17.40 GiB used: 3.64 GiB (20.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3
      label: rootantiX17.4.1 uuid: 3820c3bb-0b7f-447b-9b6f-547a4c7e1a7d
      ID-2: /home size: 20.84 GiB used: 2.54 GiB (12.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4
      label: homeantiX uuid: f01c1ec2-fb66-49b9-b5c5-e5fddc12f018
      ID-3: /media/-rw size: 11.66 GiB used: 40.0 MiB (0.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb5
      label: -rw uuid: 3cd1ace9-6a9d-43a0-933e-a1a45fd7793d
      ID-4: /media/MX-Live raw size: 1.41 GiB size: <root required> used: <root required>
      fs: iso9660 dev: /dev/sdb4 label: MX-Live uuid: 2019-10-21-17-35-05-00
      ID-5: /media/usbboot size: 240.2 MiB used: 7.0 MiB (2.9%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb3
      label: usbboot uuid: 3055-742E
      ID-6: /media/usbdata size: 1.03 GiB used: 5.8 MiB (0.6%) fs: ntfs dev: /dev/sdb1
      label: usbdata uuid: 0504B837002B90F5
      ID-7: swap-1 size: 6.52 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda5 label: N/A
      uuid: 40ccc468-e3a5-4544-82b8-ee84ab6df0b5
      Unmounted:
      ID-1: /dev/sda1 size: 1 KiB fs: <root required> label: N/A uuid: N/A
      ID-2: /dev/sda2 size: 46.57 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
      uuid: 743f0e89-2ac8-42cb-a66d-bbef565e1ecc
      ID-3: /dev/sda6 size: 18.62 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
      uuid: d478de32-5949-4f6f-b9d3-aabeaaf9bcc9
      ID-4: /dev/sdb2 size: 1 KiB fs: <root required> label: N/A uuid: N/A
      USB:
      Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0002
      Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0002
      Device-1: 2-5:2 info: Toshiba Kingston DataTraveler 102/2.0 / HEMA Flash Drive 2 GB
      / PNY Attache 4GB Stick
      type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
      chip ID: 0930:6545 serial: <filter>
      Hub: 3-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0001
      Device-2: 3-1:2 info: HP Bluetooth 2.0 Interface [Broadcom BCM2045] type: Bluetooth
      driver: btusb interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 03f0:171d
      Hub: 4-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0001
      Hub: 5-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0001
      Hub: 6-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0001
      Hub: 7-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0001
      Hub: 8-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
      chip ID: 1d6b:0001
      Sensors:
      System Temperatures: cpu: 50.0 C mobo: 43.0 C
      Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
      Info:
      Processes: 161 Uptime: 1h 08m Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5
      Compilers: gcc: 6.3.0 alt: 6 Shell: bash v: 4.4.12 running in: lxterminal
      inxi: 3.0.36
      dim@antix1dim:~
      $

      #28766
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      BobC
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        If you have 4 gb of memory or less, 64 bit is unnecessary, so use 32 bit

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        rokytnji
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          Agree with BobC.

          Memory:
          RAM: total: 1.90 GiB used: 677.8 MiB (34.8%)

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          #28769
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          oops
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            If you have 4 gb of memory or less, 64 bit is unnecessary, so use 32 bit

            … And if superior to 4 gb of memory, you can use a PAE Kernel with the 32 bits version.

            #28792
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            dimz
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              ok thank you…
              i install antix 19 64 and works fine

              #28800
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              rayluo
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                If you have 4 gb of memory or less, 64 bit is unnecessary, so use 32 bit

                … And if superior to 4 gb of memory, you can use a PAE Kernel with the 32 bits version.

                But AntiX 19 does not (yet?) provide some 32bit PAE flavor to download, does it? Not from SourceForge Mirror.

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                  No, but it does provide plenty of pae kernels in the repos – easy to install using cli-aptiX

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                    AntiX 19 does not (yet?) provide some 32bit PAE flavor to download, does it?

                    No, but it does provide plenty of pae kernels in the repos – easy to install using cli-aptiX

                    I happen to be a LiveUSB user, exclusively. Following the hint above, I ran cli-aptiX to choose a PAE kernel. The update itself seemed smooth, but after the update, “uname -a” showed no difference. Perhaps it would (understandably) need a reboot to take effect, but does that mean I need a root persistence and later preferably a remaster? (My first root persistence attempt failed probably due to running out of thumb drive space, so I would need to try it again later.)

                    Also I notice there is a Live USB Kernel Updater inside the antiX menu. Is it used to somehow replace the root persistence and remaster step? But does that mean I would need to first install the new kernel to hard disk, for it to be available for “flushing” into the Live USB disk?

                    I don’t mind to do some trial and error here. But it would also be nice if there is already some (even high level) guidance for this.

                    #28845
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                      The live-kernel-updater utility requires (demands) that you first perform a live-remaster operation & reboot. This prerequisite ensures that a known-good falback will be available if a newly-installed kernel misbehaves on your system.

                      guidance:

                      0) refer to “Synposis” section of https://github.com/BitJam/live-kernel-updater/blob/master/README.md

                      1) “install” a different kernel via synaptic
                      2) perform a live-remaster operation
                      3) reboot & then run live-kernel-updater

                      4) After installing a new kernel and testing across XX reboot sessions to become confident that everything’s working fine, browse the liveboot media AsRoot and manually remove the fallback *.old files (a housekeeping step to reduce the amount of used space on the drive)

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                      anticapitalista
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                        AS skidoo says except you can run live-kernel-updater immediately after the remaster has finished and before reboot.

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                          The only bad thing about 32-bit, in 4 GB or less computers, IMO, is that some software is only available in 64-bit.

                          confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019

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