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simon
I had pretty good luck installing antix on my EeePC (which i’m posting from) and decided to give it a try on my old pentium 2 desktop. 17 core loaded OK, but waned me that I need internet in order to run the instasll. I then tried to pop in the antix base disk, however after booting up the X server failed to start.
The computer is a PII 333MHz, 288Mb RAM, and a Matrox Millenium 2 AGP graphics card (maybe like 32MB VRAM). I used to run Redhad linux on this back in the day (late 90s, early 00s).
I have two questions:
1) Do I really need a network connection to install core?
2) Can X work ont hat computer at all, is there an older version fo AntiX that could work?
fatmac
I think you’ll have a job getting anything reasonable to run with those specs.
(Core should install without internet, I think, but Net needs a connection to get the extra programs.)Maybe try loading to ram, to get a speed boost, but it will struggle to run Xorg.
(There is another distro that you might like to take a look at – SliTaz might work.)
Linux (& BSD) since 1999
caprea
Maybe you didn’t find, here’s a link for older versions
https://sourceforge.net/projects/antix-linux/files/Final/
I assume you already tried the options during the live-boot offered by the F4,F5 keys, especially failsafe and looked at the FAQ
https://download.tuxfamily.org/antix/docs-antiX-17/FAQ/boot-params.html
anticapitalista
Anonymous
Not trying to put you off from antiX but, simply because of the specs, if antiX doesn’t work for you, one more possibility would be to try Core. Biggest version fits in 1/2 of your RAM and it’s the fastest thing I ever saw — and it’s recent and gets regularly updated.
Thank you all for your responses.
Just a quick update:
I have tried antix 16 and 12, and all of the various options at startup for 12,16, and 17. X just doesn’t seem to want to work. I was able to get the original fedora core installed on the computer from back in 2004 or so to boot up (the filesystem is slightly corrupted so it doesn’t boot like 90% of the time), and X works fine on that. I’m thinking I might need to edit the xorg.conf file because it seems to have a bunch of extra options for “Device” that the xorg.conf file in the fedora core install did not have. I will let you know if that helps.Just out of curiosity, why exactly you’re doing it?
I mean, even if you get it running, with these specs, you’ll still need a computer. 😉
For 299, you can even get something that can manage any office task, looks good and has all connectors: USB2, USB3, USBC …
Matrox has always been a problem.
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1385982
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466318
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721olsztyn
For 299, you can even get something that can manage any office task, looks good and has all connectors: USB2, USB3, USBC
I have become to appreciate a bit older laptops but in good shape and with good specs that you get from eBay, if you can put up with laptop used, although in good shape, instead of new…
Such as the following (just for example sake to show they can be inexpensive):
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T410-i5-i7-2-40-2-66GHz-2-4GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-No-OS/283271529703?hash=item41f44c84e7:m:muHkTY31Y5VnY78eX7HLmew:rk:3:pf:0&LH_BIN=1
This example is Lenovo Thinkpad T410, processor i7, 4GB memory, 160G drive for US $99.
The only problem – Windows is wiped out! But if you do not need Windows, as folks in this forum this is not a disadvantage, right?Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_ParametersHello again, another update.
I went with my hunch and put the antix 17 disk back in, loaded it up in safe mode (section “device”, driver “vesa”) and as before did not work. I did the following:
$ nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
changed driver “vesa” to driver “mga”
saved with ctrl-X
$ startx
Aaaaand… X started up just fine, now I am in icewm and everything seems to be working fine.
so, I think this is an actual issue that could be fixed by the devs? If a matrox card is detected just use the mga driver and don’t enable any extraneous options.
@missTell to answer your question, I am doing this out of a feeling of nostalgia. This was the first computer I built back when I was a kid in 1998, I wanted to get it up and running again. As I mentioned in my first post I already do have a functioning EeePC running antix that works great. My intention was to do some word processing on the pentium II computer.
I can’t answer you that. You have to find an answer for yourself.
I can give you en example: Lenovo T-420 vs. Medion Akoya E3222
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-2520M-vs-Intel-Celeron-N4100/m29vsm407836
As of what I wrote — it was not so much about the age in itself but of very basic sense: computer or no computer?
With the specs from above you get a (too) heavy, (too) loud (unreliable) thing, which can (die any moment) maybe start ranger and moc. Listening the music will anyway not work — fan noise will (very probably) be louder then the loudspeakers …
I’d still like to get an answer on my question though — it wasn’t trolling but, it really interests me what people do with something like this (out of Africa).
(I’m often buying refurbished Laptops but, that’s another story.)
caprea
Very nice you have it running now !
With the specs from above you get a (too) heavy, (too) loud (unreliable) thing, which can (die any moment) maybe start ranger and moc. Listening the music will anyway not work — fan noise will (very probably) be louder then the loudspeakers …
Although the topic of this post is different allow me to take liberty to comment on this quote:
– Heavy – yes, it is relatively heavy laptop. you want light and smaller, you would get something like X220 for about the same price.
– Unreliable, that may die any time – No. Thinkpads are among the most reliable and do not easily die. That is why large corporation have been buying them. In all companies I have been working I rarely had seen any different than Thinkpads…
– Listening to music works just fine. I rarely hear fan when it kicks in, and only when quiet. Most of the time it does not even kick in.
I had different laptops, such as Dell, etc… Currently on my desk I have Thinkpad T520 1920×1200 i7 but when I travel or move around I am using X220 i7 as it is small and light. Right now I am typing this on T410 i5 and I do not not hear fan at all.
To me many new ones are made kind of disposable. Batteries are not replaceable so when warranty expires these are more likely to be relatively dead than the older ones with replaceable batteries… I went through many laptops and this is my personal experience…- This reply was modified 4 years, 5 months ago by olsztyn.
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parametersanticapitalista
Hello again, another update.
I went with my hunch and put the antix 17 disk back in, loaded it up in safe mode (section “device”, driver “vesa”) and as before did not work. I did the following:
$ nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf
changed driver “vesa” to driver “mga”
saved with ctrl-X
$ startx
Aaaaand… X started up just fine, now I am in icewm and everything seems to be working fine.
so, I think this is an actual issue that could be fixed by the devs? If a matrox card is detected just use the mga driver and don’t enable any extraneous options.
Good on you for getting this working. I’ll have a look at mga driver option.
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@olsztyn: Under „With the specs from above …“ I didn‘t mean Lenovos T410/420/510/520 but, ABOVE … Pentium II … Remember those 5 kg, 5 cm thick things with floppy? 😉
I must have misunderstood your reference.
Ah, yes, those old ones, big and heavy. Those indeed are hard to make useful.Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters
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