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garrycook
I’m attempting to revive an old Asus eee PC with a 4GB SSD, and having a heck of a time trying to find a version of AntiX that will fit on it.
I’ve been trying base/full versions, from 21 and working my way down. At 17.5 I hit some errors, and didn’t think it worth trying to troubleshoot without asking some basic questions first.Does anyone know right off the bat which version ‘should’ fit? A couple of them state they will fit in 3.8-9 GB, but that doesn’t seem to be the case for me.
What’s the difference between base/full, other than LibreOffice? I don’t need it, so I’d be happy to go with the base version if I can find one that works, but curious about what else I might ‘lose’.
The core version seems like it might fit, but I’m looking for more than CLI. Perhaps I could go that route and then set runlevel 5 and get a window manager? Not sure, again about the differences in versions, what is/not included in core.
Any help appreciated, thanks all!
olsztyn
Asus eee PC with a 4GB SSD, and having a heck of a time trying to find a version of AntiX that will fit on it.
No problem at all to fit antiX 21 in 4GB SSD:
I suggest antiX 21 Full (includes LibreOffice) and install to your 4GB SSD as Live. This is the way I am doing and it is superior way to traditional install. It takes for me 3.5Gb space with lots of added software. The initial Full install should take less than 3Gb.
The easiest: Boot from distribution Live antiX Full and execute from terminal:sudo live-usb-maker –force=usb
There are two dashes before ‘force’ parameter. It shows in print as one longer dash…
Just follow selection menus how you want to install to your SSD, such as encryption, etc…
Good luck.P.S.:
When you boot antiX from SSD, after installation, add permanent boot parameter ‘from=hd’ and save this boot parameter through F8 save.- This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by olsztyn.
- This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by olsztyn.
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Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parameters
marcelocripe
Hello garrycook.
Welcome to antiX Linux and the forum.
I don’t know how to write in English and I send my texts translated by the internet translator. I hope you can understand everything, if your native language is not English, please translate my original Brazilian Portuguese text directly into your language with the help of internet translators.
Regardless of your level of knowledge about GNU/Linux, I recommend you read these excellent tutorials created by @PPC:
What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.When I first started using antiX, I read the tutorials that PPC created, these readings saved me a lot of time and I think it saves time for any new antiX user. Your time will not be wasted with these readings, everything will seem to be much easier than you could imagine. You won’t waste your time searching the internet or even creating new topics, on the contrary, you will gain a lot of time with these readings.
I recommend you try out desktops that have “zzz” in their name. I usually use zzz-IceWM or zzz-JWM or zzz-Fluxbox (each of these desktops has its own characteristics and consumes more or less resources), zzzFM will be the default file manager for your desktop, it it is very similar to the other file managers of other GNU/Linux distributions and Windows XP. To access other antiX workspaces, click on Menu, Desktop, Other Desktops and click on the workspace name, instantly the workspace will be loaded.
Whenever you need to ask for help or technical support in this forum, please explain in detail what is happening, don’t mince words, be thorough when writing, tell your computer characteristics such as make and model. If possible, post the result of the command $ inxi -Fxz from the terminal, copy and paste here in the message of the topic that you are going to create in this forum.
When you start a topic or participate with a post, remember to check the option “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, by checking this option, you will receive a message in your email box whenever there are replies from topic in question.
Your questions are answered even in the topics I indicated above, but I will answer you here.
Does anyone know right off the bat which version ‘should’ fit? A couple of them state they will fit in 3.8-9 GB, but that doesn’t seem to be the case for me.
Ideally, reserve at least 10 GB of disk space.
The core version seems like it might fit, but I’m looking for more than CLI.
It’s not just LibreOffice, there are several programs developed by the antiX community and others, as the PPC describes very well in its text, the antiX full ISO resembles a Swiss Army knife. There is a participant here on the forum who insists on using the base ISO and always needs the programs that are available in the full ISO.
The core version seems like it might fit, but I’m looking for more than CLI.
Both the base ISO and the full ISO have a “graphics environment”, but for those new to antiX, the full ISO is the easiest to get to know the full power of antiX.
antiX 21 works very well, even on computers with 1 GB of DDR RAM and Pentium 4 / Celeron processors with an IDE hard disk. Your computer will be faster than a Formula 1 car with antiX.
Don’t forget to take the time to read the topics I’ve indicated in this text, you won’t regret the time lost to do the reading, because you won’t waste time researching to answer the questions that are answered in these topics.
marcelocripe
(Original text in Brazilian Portuguese language)– – – – –
Olá garrycook.
Seja bem-vindo(a) ao antiX Linux e ao fórum.
Eu não sei escrever em idioma Inglês e envio os meus textos traduzidos pelo tradutor da internet. Eu espero que você consiga compreender tudo, caso o seu idioma nativo não seja o Inglês, por favor, traduza o meu texto original em idioma Português do Brasil diretamente para o seu idioma com a ajuda dos tradutores da internet.
Independentemente do seu nível de conhecimento sobre GNU/Linux, eu recomendo você ler estes excelentes tutoriais criados pelo @PPC:
What is antiX and how to try it out or install it.
Short essential how-to list for the complete Linux newbie.
How-to install applications – 2020 version.
How to: correctly use antiX forum.Quando eu comecei a utilizar o antiX, eu li os tutoriais que o PPC criou, estas leituras me pouparam muito do meu tempo e acho que poupa o tempo de qualquer novo usuário do antiX. O seu tempo não será perdido com estas leituras, tudo parecerá ser muito mais fácil do que você poderia imaginar. Você não perderá o seu tempo com pesquisas na internet ou até mesmo em criar novos tópicos, ao contrário, você ganhará muito tempo com estas leituras.
Eu recomendo você experimentar as áreas de trabalho que possuem “zzz” em seu nome. Eu costumo utilizar o zzz-IceWM ou zzz-JWM ou zzz-Fluxbox (cada uma destas áreas de trabalho possuem características próprias e consomem mais ou menos recursos), o zzzFM será o gerenciador de arquivos padrão da sua área de trabalho, ele é muito semelhante aos outros gerenciadores de arquivos das outras distribuições GNU/Linux e do Windows XP. Para acessar as outras áreas de trabalho do antiX, clique no Menu, Área de Trabalho, Alternar Entre as Áreas de Trabalho e clique sobre o nome da área de trabalho, instantaneamente a área de trabalho será carregada.
Sempre que você precisar solicitar ajuda ou suporte técnico neste fórum, explique com detalhes o que está acontecendo, não economize as palavras, seja minucioso ao escrever, informe as características do seu computador, como a marca e o modelo. Se for possível, poste o resultado do comando $ inxi -Fxz do terminal, copie e cole aqui na mensagem do tópico que você for criar neste fórum.
Quando você iniciar algum tópico ou participar com alguma postagem, lembre-se de marcar a opção “Notify me of follow-up replies via email”, marcando esta opção, você receberá uma mensagem na sua caixa de e-mail sempre que houver respostas do tópico em questão.
As suas perguntas são respondidas inclusive nos tópicos que eu indiquei acima, mas irei te responder aqui.
Does anyone know right off the bat which version ‘should’ fit? A couple of them state they will fit in 3.8-9 GB, but that doesn’t seem to be the case for me.
O ideal é reservar no mínimo 10 GB de espaço em disco.
What’s the difference between base/full, other than LibreOffice?
Não é só o LibreOffice, existem vários programas desenvolvidos pela comunidade antiX e outros, como o PPC descreve muito bem no seu texto, a ISO full do antiX assemelha-se a um canivete suíço. Tem um participante daqui do fórum que insiste em utilizar a ISO base e sempre precisa dos programas que estão disponíveis na ISO full.
The core version seems like it might fit, but I’m looking for more than CLI.
Tanto a ISO base quanto a ISO full possuem um “ambiente gráfico”, mas para quem está começando no antiX, a ISO full é a mais fácil para conhecer todo o poder do antiX.
O antiX 21 funciona muito bem, inclusive em computadores de 1 GB de memória RAM DDR e processadores Pentium 4 / Celeron com disco rígido IDE. O seu computador ficará mais rápido que um carro de Fórmula 1 com o antiX.
Não se esqueça de dedicar um tempo para ler os tópicos que eu indiquei neste texto, você não vai se arrempender do tempo perdido para fazer a leitura, pois você não perderá tempo pesquisando para tirar as dúvidas que são respondidas nestes tópicos.
marcelocripe
(Texto original em idioma Português do Brasil)
christophe
The internal drive is so tiny, you may want to just use a live usb to run that system. Like olsztyn uses (and I do too), the antiX live system is fit for everyday use. Read a bit and play with the live system. Try out persistence – I’d recommend “static persistence” with under 3 GB RAM. But that’s an option, to get use from that computer.
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
christophe
For example, I have an old netbook without hdd, that I run from a USB live stick. I stream audio from it while I’m cooking. 🙂
confirmed antiX frugaler, since 2019
ModdIt
Agree with christophe, I ran live only for months. Best to my mind is remaster after
any major changes and save important files to another USB stick as well as the one in
use.
Make a swap partition on the internal drive and do not use persistence. You would have
Live USB storage as data area.A good 64 GB USB stick is pretty cheap these days, as you presumably have an EEPC
with device soldered to the board a far better option. If internal used a lot and
goes defective the device is likely unusable. I look for sticks with a minimum of
5 year manufacturer warranty. Mostly use Trancend after some unpleasant trouble
with san disk. Maybe fake drives but unconfirmed. Replaced by amazon.
blur13
I have an eee pc, switched out the hard drive to something usable like a 500 GB SSD and surprised at how pleasant it is to work with. But like others have said, try running it from a USB. SanDisk makes some really tiny ones that you’ll hardly notice are attached to the computer.
SanDisk makes some really tiny ones that you’ll hardly notice are attached to the computer.
I am using these exclusively. They are called Cruzer Fit…
Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parametershi blur 13,
some models of EEPC are unfortunately not upgradable to bigger ssd, on others it is not for
faint hearted.Maybe garrycook could give device details so we can understand the situation better.
My EEPC clamshell edition case is held together with superglue and baking soda after the
(designed never to be opened) flimsy case clips snapped while opening using a very thin pry to
move them, that was in hot weather.
Maybe heating the case in an oven would have helped, risk of melting or other damage though..User experience with the physicaly smaller usb drives has been dismal, fail after fail. I suspect
they just run too hot.- This reply was modified 7 months, 3 weeks ago by ModdIt.
I am using these exclusively. They are called Cruzer Fit…
The Cruzer Fit usb plugs I am using are about $6 on eBay. Most are 32Gb USB2. One of them is USB3 but I do not see any difference in real performance since USB ports are USB2.
They seem equally fast.
What I was originally suggesting though was to install as Live to the internal SSD of 4GB. Then it is lightning fast… I have installed antiX as Live to internal disks on two my laptops. Works great. The beauty of Live install is that it is almost all Read I/O. No degrading of media over time. Unless you write lots of data each time, such as constantly saving large files to flash media.Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parametersgarrycook
What I was originally suggesting though was to install as Live to the internal SSD of 4GB. Then it is lightning fast… I have installed antiX as Live to internal disks on two my laptops. Works great. The beauty of Live install is that it is almost all Read I/O. No degrading of media over time. Unless you write lots of data each time, such as constantly saving large files to flash media.
Thanks @olsztyn! This is exactly what I was looking for. I just tried it out and it appears to have installed in under 3 minutes. Very nice.
And thanks to everyone else as well, I may play around with the other options next. Those Cruzer Fits are slick, and cheap too. $10 on Amazon for 32GB shipped next day? Yes please.
@marcelocripe, I appreciate the detailed response. I will properly RTFM based on your post.@marcelocripe, I appreciate the detailed response. I will properly RTFM based on your post.
Your question of the original post was rather specific to your hardware and I do not think you will find the answer by RTFM. Nevertheless links to antiX resources posted by @marcelocripe are in general worthwhile to become familiar with antiX.
Specifically to your hardware though, I expect you will find your hardware just perfect to run antiX. None other OS can do on your hardware what antiX can…Live antiX Boot Options (Previously posted by Xecure):
https://antixlinuxfan.miraheze.org/wiki/Table_of_antiX_Boot_Parametersmarcelocripe
Garrycook, now I have a question to ask. What is or what does the acronym “RTFM” mean?
The automatic translator is not able to translate the acronyms, “RTFM”, “LOL”, “BTW” and others scattered around the forum.– – – – –
Garrycook, agora sou que preciso fazer uma pergunta. O que é ou o que significa a sigla “RTFM”?
O tradutor automático não é capaz de traduzir as siglas, “RTFM”, “LOL”, “BTW” e outras espalhadas pelo fórum.
Brian Masinick
RTFM: Read the F… Manual (some versions of this use a curse word in place of the “F”).
LOL: Laughing Out Loud
BTW: By the way--
Brian MasinickBrian Masinick
We can replace the curse in F for the RTFM to be “Read the Friendly Manual”! 🙂
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