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  • #11388
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet

    After the disaster I faced with sid and the advise I was given I reinstalled and used testing (the buster parallel). It had been going well but last upgrade keeps wanting to throw everything out and bring systemd in.
    I tried to revert the damage (I am running sddm openbox and some lxde software) and when I started sddm manually both kbd and mouse lost function. I rebooted and I go into emergency (no tty) and if I type exit it goes into kernel panic.
    So now on chroot this is what I get. If I install systemd-must-die then on the next dist-upgrade run it wants to remove it and install systemd.

    apt install lxpolkit        
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      consolekit libck-connector0 libegl1-mesa libencode-locale-perl libept1.5.0 libfile-listing-perl
      libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl libhttp-date-perl
      libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
      liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl libqt5qml5
      libqt5quick5 libtimedate-perl libtry-tiny-perl liburi-perl libwww-perl libwww-robotrules-perl
      libxatracker2 libxfont2 libxvmc1 lxlock man-db perl-openssl-defaults qml-module-qtquick2 x11-apps
      x11-session-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xinit xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
    Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
    The following additional packages will be installed:
      libpam-systemd policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
    Suggested packages:
      systemd-container
    Recommended packages:
      libnss-systemd
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
      xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
      xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
      xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      libpam-systemd lxpolkit policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
    0 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 14.7 kB/3466 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 8164 kB disk space will be freed.
    
    #11390
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet

    Somewhere within lxde pkgs is where the culprit exists, but exactly where I don’t know.

    # apt install lxde 
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      libegl1-mesa libept1.5.0 libqt5qml5 libqt5quick5 libxatracker2 libxfont2 libxvmc1 man-db
      qml-module-qtquick2 x11-apps x11-session-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xinit
    Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
    The following additional packages will be installed:
      galculator gpicview laptop-detect libpam-systemd lxappearance-obconf lxde-common lxde-core
      lxde-icon-theme lxhotkey-core lxhotkey-gtk lxinput lxpolkit lxsession lxsession-edit lxsession-logout
      openbox-lxde-session policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
    Suggested packages:
      gimp libreoffice lxlauncher pidgin pk-update-icon xfce4-power-manager firefox-esr | firefox
      | www-browser systemd-container
    Recommended packages:
      xdg-utils clipit deluge | transmission-gtk evince | pdf-viewer gnome-disk-utility smplayer | vlc
      | mplayer-gui gnome-system-tools gucharmap firefox-esr | firefox | www-browser lightdm
      | x-display-manager lxmusic | audacious menu-xdg usermode wicd | network-manager-gnome xserver-xorg
      notification-daemon lxhotkey-plugin-openbox lxhotkey-data openssh-client | ssh-client libnss-systemd
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
      xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
      xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
      xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      galculator gpicview laptop-detect libpam-systemd lxappearance-obconf lxde lxde-common lxde-core
      lxde-icon-theme lxhotkey-core lxhotkey-gtk lxinput lxpolkit lxsession lxsession-edit lxsession-logout
      openbox-lxde-session policykit-1 systemd systemd-sysv
    0 upgraded, 20 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    Need to get 1444 kB/9376 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 7172 kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n
    
    #11391
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    anticapitalista
    anticapitalista

    Wait for the new systemd-free policykit-1 debs to hit the repos.
    BTW where did you get systemd-must-die from? It is not in our repos.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    #11393
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    Xaver
    Xaver

    @ anticapitalista

    BTW where did you get systemd-must-die from? It is not in our repos.

    I wondered, where my ‘systemd-must-die’ came from. So I have checked the repos.
    ‘systemd-must-die’ is in the antix repo: http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/testing/pool/nosystemd/p/prevent-systemd/

    $ apt show systemd-must-die
    Package: systemd-must-die
    Version: 1
    Priority: extra
    Section: nosystemd
    Source: prevent-systemd
    Origin: WTF
    Maintainer: Wookey <wookey@debian.org>
    Bugs: mailto:wtf@mirbsd.org
    Installed-Size: 2.048 B
    Conflicts: libpam-systemd, live-config-systemd, python-systemd, systemd, systemd-cron, systemd-gui, systemd-shim, systemd-sysv, systemd-ui
    Download-Size: 1.898 B
    APT-Manual-Installed: yes
    APT-Sources: http://iso.mxrepo.com/antix/sid sid/nosystemd amd64 Packages
    Description: metapackage to remove systemd
    This metapackage ensures that systemd is not used as the init
    system for your computer. This is necessary if you prefer a
    traditional init system.

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by Xaver.
    #11395
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet

    If I updated and installed it I am sure it didn’t come from debian, it wouldn’t install from cache, would it?
    Not with apt install systemd-must-die

    apt search systemd-must-die
    Sorting... Done
    Full Text Search... Done
    systemd-must-die/testing,testing,now 1 all [installed]
      metapackage to remove systemd
    
    
    #11396
    Member
    Xaver
    Xaver

    @ fungalnet
    Find repo of installed package with ‘apt policy <package name>’
    Comprehensive list of package manager commands:
    https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta

    #11397
    Forum Admin
    anticapitalista
    anticapitalista

    Yes it is in the repos, my mistake. It is not installed by default though and is not necessary.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    #11398
    Member
    fungalnet
    fungalnet
    #11416
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet

    I just did an update and tried dist-upgrade:

    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
      xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
      xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
      xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      init systemd systemd-sysv
    
    #11418
    Forum Admin
    anticapitalista
    anticapitalista

    inxi -r for sources list

    Also, post the output of apt-get upgrade

    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by anticapitalista.

    Philosophers have interpreted the world in many ways; the point is to change it.

    #11422
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet
    Active apt repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/antix.list 
               121 deb https: //repo.antixlinux.com/testing/ testing main nosystemd dev
               12No active apt repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list 
               12Active apt repos in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list 
               121 deb https: //deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
               122 deb https: //security.debian.org/ buster/updates non-free contrib main
    The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      consolekit libck-connector0 libegl1-mesa libencode-locale-perl libept1.5.0 libfile-listing-perl
      libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl libhttp-date-perl
      libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
      liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl
      libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libqt5qml5 libqt5quick5
      libtimedate-perl libtry-tiny-perl libunique-1.0-0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libwww-robotrules-perl
      libxatracker2 libxfont2 libxvmc1 lxlock lxsession-data man-db perl-openssl-defaults
      qml-module-qtquick2 x11-apps x11-session-utils xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xinit
      xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
    Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
    The following packages will be REMOVED:
      eudev sddm systemd-must-die xorg xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all
      xserver-xorg-input-libinput xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu xserver-xorg-video-ati
      xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-radeon
      xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vmware
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      init systemd systemd-sysv
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      binutils binutils-common binutils-x86-64-linux-gnu e2fslibs e2fsprogs libbinutils libcom-err2
      libcomerr2 libcups2 libext2fs2 libpng16-16 libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0
      libpolkit-gobject-1-0 libss2 libxen-4.8 libxenstore3.0 tor
    18 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 17 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
    
    #11423
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet
    policykit-1/testing 0.105-21.0nosystemd1 amd64 [residual-config]
      framework for managing administrative policies and privileges
    # apt install policykit-1 
    Reading package lists... Done
    Building dependency tree       
    Reading state information... Done
    The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
      consolekit libargon2-0 libck-connector0 libcryptsetup12 libencode-locale-perl libept1.5.0
      libfile-listing-perl libhtml-parser-perl libhtml-tagset-perl libhtml-tree-perl libhttp-cookies-perl
      libhttp-date-perl libhttp-message-perl libhttp-negotiate-perl libio-html-perl libio-socket-ssl-perl
      libjson-c3 liblwp-mediatypes-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libnet-http-perl libnet-ssleay-perl
      libtimedate-perl libtry-tiny-perl libunique-1.0-0 liburi-perl libwww-perl libwww-robotrules-perl
      lxlock lxsession-data perl-openssl-defaults xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
    Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
    The following additional packages will be installed:
      libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
    The following NEW packages will be installed:
      policykit-1
    The following packages will be upgraded:
      libpolkit-agent-1-0 libpolkit-backend-1-0 libpolkit-gobject-1-0
    3 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
    Need to get 181 kB of archives.
    After this operation, 249 kB of additional disk space will be used.
    Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

    Abort.
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    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by fungalnet.
    • This reply was modified 1 year, 3 months ago by fungalnet.
    #11453
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    fungalnet
    fungalnet

    Thinking there might have been something I did that messed up the installation I revived an old backup, 5mos old, put it on a stick and booted. It worked fine, it was an early backup of the same installation. Thinking that if I update it and it works I can replace the messed up installation and just the software I has added over the past few months. Basically the same minimalist openbox with some lxde tools. It took a while to update, nothing weird like systemd coming in, everything seemed fine.

    I reboot, kernel panick!
    The only thing I added was the latest kernel on top of the 4.14 I had. I tried the other kernel just in case … same thing.

    So is buster busting us? Anyone else running testing?

    #11456
    Forum Admin
    Dave
    Dave

    Both the new kernel and the original kernel are having a kernel panic?
    Any interesting clues in the kernel panic output? like cannot mount /find root file…..
    Was the kernel changed on a live usb? did you use the utility to change the kernel on a live usb? I think it is live-kernel-updater
    A copy of the dist-upgrade apt history might help… but being it was a clean dist-upgrade than I am doubtful of that

    Computers are like air conditioners. They work fine until you start opening Windows. ~Author Unknown

    #11460
    Member
    fungalnet
    fungalnet

    No it is not a live system, it is a backup of a hard installation, the one that broke last week. Just put the image in a usb partition with its own grub etc. It booted fine and run fine, apart from the expected delay in usb action.

    I think somehow the links on root for bin sbin lib were wiped out.

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